Patterns for men's Tudor?

[gem]

I'm sure I've asked this precise question before, but I couldn't find it in a search, so it must have been on the old forums!  (Yikes, that was a long time ago!)

I want to make Milord a Tudor ensemble with the big, fur-lined robe that Henry VIII was so often painted in:



(possibly not that extreme/big, but the same general silhouette.  Ninya Mikhaila has a great one on her website.)

There are patterns for all those pieces in Tudor Tailor, of course, but I'm wondering what my other choices are.  I don't remember seeing many men's Tudor outfits here on the forum, but perhaps I missed them.  Has anyone made one?

Also, if anyone could remind me what the proper names for all those pieces are, that would be helpful as I go Googling for this project.  I am not as up on my men's garb as I am on women's.

Gramercy!

[Lady Kathleen of Olmsted]

gem!!!! Check out www.reconstructinghistory.com for a Tudor Men's Ensemble. There are also patterns for the Under Tunic and Breeches/Hosen. If you need a  Tudor Cap for a man, let me know. I make those from scratch.

I have a commission coming up in 2010 for a Tudor Man's ensemble similar to the portrait of Henry VIII. I will be ordering those patterns as well.

[Lady L]

I bought the Simplicity King Henry pattern, which is now out of print, but you might still be able to find one on the internet. I have used http://momspatterns.com/home to order out of print patterns from. I only made the hose, so far. They turned out good.  I would like to make the coat... I even bought the fabric for it, but then R went in the Knight/Pirate direction. Shaub, is that the right term?
Looks like it's sold, but here's what it looks like and the number.
http://momspatterns.com/inc/sdetail/30817

[operafantomet]

If I remember correctly, one of the commercial books (not Jean Hunnisett, but similar) have a pattern for such a fur-lined jacket. It has a specific name, and was a fashion shared with Germany. Darn, can't remember the name nor the book, but I'll run back her and post it if I remember!

[Genievea Brookstone]

Gem, your husband would look smashing in that!

[gem]

Thanks, G!  I have a totally zany idea for this that I'm not quite ready to share yet, but I'm really excited about it.  Milord, um... LOL!  (Which reminds me--I owe you a PM!)

Lady K, thanks.  I'm not really a fan of RH, so I'd probably go with any other company first.  I know Period Patterns has one, too, tho' with their reputation for awful instructions I might have better luck with the ones in Tudor Tailor.  I suppose I could spring for the actual Tudor Tailor patterns.  That might be worth it, actually; Milord is probably going to be hard to fit, and having a pattern in his size to start with might make everything else easier down the line.

Lady L, I can't believe they discontinued that pattern!  I wonder if there's any hope they'll resurrect it (as they have with some of their other Ren designs--repackaged and rephotographed them).  Do you know the date it's from?

Anea, if you do think of the book, do let me know!!

Gramercy, everyone!

[Lady L]

gem- In the link I posted above, right at the top it says 2001.

[LordPaulet]

:: pulls out tudor tailor book ::
hose (tights)
U front Jerkin (over doublet)
Sidelace doublet (has the puffs)
Gown (coat)

[Kate XXXXXX]

Since doing the boy's gown, I've wanted to do a full set.  It should be fantastic, and yes, spring for the TT patterns.

[gem]

Well, the Tudor gown pattern is $62 (which is about twice the price of the book alone), so it looks like I'm gonna have to learn how to grade. 

[Kate XXXXXX]

Use dot & cross paper to scale up the patterns in the book to full size and then just adjust as you would any other pattern.  The pieces are fairly simple shapes, so it shouldn't be too difficult.  Most of what you will be adding is girth, and a bit of extra length to accommodate that, unless your husband is extra tall (which I don't think he is, from previous pix of garb).

For a bit on grading patterns:

http://www.threadsmagazine.com/item/4368/making-sense-of-pattern-grading
http://www.threadsmagazine.com/item/4424/quick-reference-for-cut-and-spread-pattern-grading

[gem]

Thanks, Kate!  I have read that first "Threads" piece several times now, but the second link is new to me.

Anyway, this is a long-term project (um, the kind that never get done  ), so I have some time to fiddle and experiment.  I need to get going on the Gimli tunic before I should even be thinking about a new (weird) project for Milord.