What single thing at faire hurls you off into the depths of rage?

[iain robb]

If a faire is outside, I don't see the problem...

As far as I know, that's still legal.

I understand your point. I don't at all like smoke, and my wife is quite allergic to it, but I can't quite get myself into depths of rage about smoking unless someone is being rude about it. Even then, my faire time is too important to me to let rude people upset me. We simply move on.

So I guess I'd say I'd prefer that people not smoke, or that there be designated smoking areas that people respect, and even though it's a health issue for my wife, we're going to try to make the best of it.

I guess that's my problem with this whole thread. I'm not apt to to into depths of rage over anything. Gross injustice or threat of bodily harm will spur me to action, but not into rage.

Of course, mess with my coffee in the morning ... 

[Lady Renee Buchanan]

If a faire is outside, I don't see the problem...

As far as I know, that's still legal.

I can't be around smoke because of my kidney transplant.  There are other places I can go to if I don't want to be around smokers at faire, and it's their right to smoke, and my right not to stand around it if I don't like it.

However.......

when you are sitting watching a show, and someone is smoking, there really isn't anywhere you can go to get away from the smoke.  Either the show is packed, with all the seats taken, or else it's a small stage with not that many benches. 

I really think that people shouldn't smoke at shows.  Even in the back at the outer edges, depending on the way the wind is blowing, the smoke carries.  Most shows last less than 30 minutes.  Can't someone refrain that long from having a cigarette/cigar/pipe?

[Valiss]

I guess that's my problem with this whole thread. I'm not apt to to into depths of rage over anything. Gross injustice or threat of bodily harm will spur me to action, but not into rage.

Of course, mess with my coffee in the morning ...

Here, let me help you out then. The title of the thread is hyperbole. Just think of it of something that bothers you at faire. Hopew that helps!
Cheers.

[crashbot]

I dont smoke at the shows. Then again, a really dont consider myself a "smoker" because the occasional clove or pipe I have is rare, so waiting a bit is no big deal.


Even when I was a regular smoker, I could go long periods without smoking. I never understood people that cant even make it through a meal without lighting up.


Aside from stuff mentioned before, not much bothers me. I can handle drunks and avoid kids.

I can get irritated at some of the hawkers sometimes when I am in street clothes. No, your Goth jokes are not original or funny.

[Rowan MacD]

Of course, mess with my coffee in the morning ... 

The last person messed with my coffee was processed through the office cross shredder.  Handy machine.

[Bugsy]

I get annoyed at venders who practically force you into their shop, show you their stuff, sweet talk you, etc.  Ya know, if I wanted to buy something in there, I would have walked into your shop on my own.  All it does is make me feel like crap for not buying anything, and make me avoid that area the rest of the time I'm there.

Wow, there are a lot of complaints about kids.  I have to say something because I have 2 children.  The first time I brought my oldest to fair, he was one of *those* kids (you all are complaining about).  Sometimes folks, you can't just jump to blame or complain.  Quinn is a pretty awesome kid, he's hyper-active, no doubt, but he doesn't want to hurt anyone or anything.  He absolutely LOVES everything that has to do with faire (he's a fantasy/science fiction kid), so you could imagine the first time he went to faire.  After a while, yes, parents just throw up their hands and say "I give in, have your fun, we'll leave soon".

If you're wearing garb, a child is going to be interested.  If you have shiny trinkets, a child will want to touch them.  If you don't like kids, a festival may not be the place for you.  If a child is "unruly", don't automatically blame the parents; children surprise their parents all the time.  It does not mean that it's something they taught them, or mean that they didn't teach them good manners.

[crashbot]

I've seen plenty of well behaved children in my time at faires. They have been respectful, courteous, and polite.

However, if your kid is rampaging around the place like a lunatic and being disruptive, it's your responsibility to keep them under control. Sorry, I am not trying to be rude, but just saying "kids are kids and they do that kinda stuff" is a cop out.

[iain robb]

I guess that's my problem with this whole thread. I'm not apt to to into depths of rage over anything. Gross injustice or threat of bodily harm will spur me to action, but not into rage.

Of course, mess with my coffee in the morning ...

Here, let me help you out then. The title of the thread is hyperbole. Just think of it of something that bothers you at faire. Hopew that helps!
Cheers.

Yeah, I know. I should have finished my first cup of coffee before I posted.

[eldatari]

Let me start out by saying that I have a 9 yr old that loves faire.  That being said, there is a difference between being excited and being rude, unruly and downright a menace.  My daughter gets excited and has lots of fun and that is great.  But I know as a parent it is my JOB to supervise her and make sure that she isn't doing anything that she shouldn't.  I think it is wonderful when children are interested in garb, but that doesn't give them license to go fondle any person walking by.  Just like when you see a dog in public or a pregnant woman, you MUST ask before you touch.  This is simply a matter of manners.

[Bugsy]

I've seen plenty of well behaved children in my time at faires. They have been respectful, courteous, and polite.

However, if your kid is rampaging around the place like a lunatic and being disruptive, it's your responsibility to keep them under control. Sorry, I am not trying to be rude, but just saying "kids are kids and they do that kinda stuff" is a cop out.

That's not what I said at all.  My main point was don't jump to blame the parents or think they didn't teach them any manners.  Yes, they are their parents responsibility, but like I said; kids will surprise you all the time.  Any parent who says their kid has NEVER done anything that went against their teachings, is full of it.  One of my biggest pet peeves is thievery.  So of course, I taught my kids not to steal.  What happens?  1st grade, my kid helps himself to some candy on the teachers desk.  I was livid.  Should I be talked about later as some mom who doesn't teach her kids manners?

"but that doesn't give them license to go fondle any person walking by. "

oi, that's not what I said either.  *hand on forehead* ok, I'll put it this way - if you want to get all dressed up in some super cool garb, it's kind of odd you would come in here an complain about children checking you out ...... you know it will happen, from the parents negligence or not (hey, it takes 0.4 seconds for a kid to do something rebellious, they know *right* when you're not looking, lol) .... you KNOW it will happen

[JJames]

What my wife and I found very upsetting this year was working with vendors who did not know how to appropriately price their garb. This was our first time! The fist time we went into the shop, one of the sales persons quoted us a price on some garb, wrote down what my wife liked, and then gave us the info (as we wanted to shop around before buying). We came back later to purchase the garb, however, the original sales women wasn't there, so another helped us. When we told her the price we were given from the other sales person, she seemed shocked by the quote, and stated it would cost much more than said price, which was out of our price range. So we explained our budget once again and started over. The sales person picked clothing that was to be within our price range, and that's what we picked. We get to the cash register and its almost $70 more than what we were told...  . I mean I can understand being off 5-10, maybe 15 bucks, but 70?? And then the cashier suggested we could leave a tip for the sales person, and we certainly would have had we not gone so far over what we were expecting to pay (yes we bought it). I always tip when proper to, but I felt bad I was not able to this time. The sales person may have been new, she kept going over to ask another sales person for prices, maybe that is where the confusion came in...

[eldatari]

If we aren't to blame parents then who is to blame?  I am not one of those parents who blames the music, tv, movies, etc.  It is your responsibility to supervise your child.  PERIOD!  I am not saying my child has never done anything wrong, that is by no means true.  If and when she does, I correct it.

I think one thing needs to be clarified.  I think people are complaining about children anywhere not just at faire who are allowed to run wild, not being supervised at all.  We aren't complaining about a child who does something small and is then corrected by their parents.  It isn't kids that are running around and yelling, it is the ones who are swinging swords around hitting everyone in sight while the parents just watch.  My husband was stabbed by a child several years ago at faire.  It wasn't bad, and he wasn't angry with the child.  What made him mad was that the parents turned and left when they saw that he was BLEEDING.  They didn't say sorry or offer to help, they just ran away.  I think most of us are parents and of course know that kids aren't perfect.  When we see them doing something they aren't supposed to and then see the parents take action, then we by no means see you as a bad parent.  In fact, I would think to myself more parents should take your example.

The problem isn't that your child has done something wrong, it is the way that it is handled afterwards that counts!

My two biggest problems are

After a while, yes, parents just throw up their hands and say "I give in, have your fun, we'll leave soon".

If you don't like kids, a festival may not be the place for you.

Yes all parents get aggravated.  But when your child is acting that bad then it is time for you to leave not me.  I shouldn't have to leave any place not just faire because someone else's child is acting like a heathen!

[Lady L]

Tearing up the parking lot...not a good idea.

[KeeperoftheBar]

[about later as some mom who doesn't teach her kids manners?

oi, that's not what I said either.  *hand on forehead* ok, I'll put it this way - if you want to get all dressed up in some super cool garb, it's kind of odd you would come in here an complain about children checking you out ...... you know it will happen, from the parents negligence or not (hey, it takes 0.4 seconds for a kid to do something rebellious, they know *right* when you're not looking, lol) .... you KNOW it will happen

Years ago, before I got StudMuffin I was at TRF.  I was in garb, not particularly cool looking (actually the leather vest was darn hot).  Because of my physical problems I used a walking stick (still do for that matter).  Around a corner came a small lad, probably 8 or 9 and ran smack into my back, knocking me down, hard on top of him.  I tore open the knee on my pants and was bleeding pretty good.  The parents began berating me for falling on there dear sweet angelic child.  After I finally struggled back to my feet, it was all I could do to keep from applying my stick forcefully to all three of them.  No apology, no assistance, not even a napkin to help staunch the flow of blood.

I think that is the sort of child most people are complaining about.  That is not a kid being a kid, that is a child whose parents should not have concieved.  And for that I do blame the parents.

This is no longer a problem when I ride StudMuffin.  So I am MUCH better now...

[Adriana Rose]

Tearing up the parking lot...not a good idea.

Thats the best way to get the site crew to try to eat you lol