Skirt & Tulle Underpining

[LAVAGODDESSSS]

Hi all!

I realize this isn't likely H/A. I'm sure someone wore something similar at some point in history But... After deciding if I wanted to pay over 100.00 for this,  I realized I...just CANNOT. But it'll be swell with my corset. Ever get fixated on something so it becomes...nagging? LOL.

I apologize for those who have seen these images in another area of the faire garb section. I'm taking the sewing route, I think.


I have a sewing machine. I...do not sew. So I will be practicing. Though as a child I did sew quite a bit. I just haven't done it in 17 years. Anyways, I want to make this. And I'm tall, so I'm not sure what that means for patterns.  

I want to make this (just the skirt, I do not like the corset):

http://ny-image1.etsy.com/il_570xN.239900529.jpg

I am very much a newbie. So please be kind! (not that you aren't). I don't know about fabrics, etc. I figure a skirt is a good place to start.  I am not sure if the fabric willc ost an arm and a leg and it's worth spending the money they want for it.

I may have an overskirt that I think may work with the under 'stuff' But is there anything I should tell her while she's making that skirt for me (it's in the works whether I make the outerskirt for this or not) to accomodate the extra stuff (I believe it is tulle) under?

Here is the skirt I'm buying (in case I don't want to make the overskirt right away). But I want to know how to do this so I can stop paying for it. http://www.etsy.com/listing/77654059/black-full-length-costume-skirt

But how is the underskirt made? Where do I get the fabric?

Thank you ladies, I have been perusing and trying to find something on this, and some of it's over my head so I thought I'd try my own specifics.

[Adriana Rose]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1311&_nkw=crinoline&_sacat=See-All-Categories

I would buy one, the tulle may make you want to kill something while working with it, they are cheap and since you are out of practice I would go for an easier project first.

[Betty Munro]

Just make sure to double check the waist measurement with the seller.  I bought a size 12 crinoline for $15.00.  It was a little girl's size 12.  For $15.00 it wasn't worth the shipping charges to send it back and get a replacement.

[LAVAGODDESSSS]

Heh. Betty, thanks. I didn't really think of that.

What is the difference between crinoline and tulle? I know the image I sent said it was tulle, but I don't know what the difference really is. Also, I'm tall, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to find a ready-made one in black. What is average length on skirts? I just ordered one that was 44" (and I'll be wearing it decently low on my hips).

[Betty Munro]

How tall are you?

[isabelladangelo]

Heh. Betty, thanks. I didn't really think of that.

What is the difference between crinoline and tulle? I know the image I sent said it was tulle, but I don't know what the difference really is. Also, I'm tall, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to find a ready-made one in black. What is average length on skirts? I just ordered one that was 44" (and I'll be wearing it decently low on my hips).

First, dittoing a lot fo what was said in the other thread.  The outfit you are looking at is very modern.   Like I did say, I had a similar one I wore to a Christmas Ball about 15 years ago.  It was made by Jessica McClintock back then.   If you are trying not to stick out at the Renn Fest, this isn't the dress for you.  If you want something to wear as a formal gown to a ball or reception, then this is the dress.

Crinoline -meaning horsehair- is typically a stiffening fabric like canvas.   You use one layer.  Tulle -as used as a fluffer for underskirts - is a modern concept.  It didn't exist until the 1940's.   Tulle prior tot hat was almost always silk and used as a sheer overlay on Victorian and Edwardian gowns.  It doesn't seem to appear before that -unlike crinoline.

A Farthingale -the period term for a hoopskirt- came into being around the 1480's.  It was a bunch of ropes sewn into circles inside a petticoat.   At first, the ropes were visible through the dresses, but later the petticoat became a separate undergarment.  Cane/Reed was used as well as rope for the hoops.   Most modern hoops use some type of steel though I've seen people have success with rubber hoses as well.  (Doesn't matter if you can't see it!)  What you want for your skirts is a hoopskirt/farthingale.  It's less weight (you won't get hot) and it will be useful for a number of different outfits.  (The adjustable rings on my hoopskirt make it perfect for both Elizabethan as well as Civil War)

[Betty Munro]

Isabella, I am very much enjoying reading your posts!