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Started by Synikul, June 24, 2008, 12:37:48 AM

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Synikul

Quotehttp://myohionow.com/

ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF $600,000,000 OHIO DESTINATION RESORT/CASINO UNVEILED

MyOhioNow.com has unveiled the architectural design plans for the largest private investment in Ohio in the 21st Century.

The plans for the guaranteed minimum $600,000,000 destination resort/casino will employ in contruction-thousands in both union and prevailing wage jobs. The MyOhioNow.com complex will be over 2,000,000 square feet.

This entertainment complex will include a major luxury hotel, restaurants, spa, tournament golf course, convention center, live theater and more. The complex will employ, at the onset, up to 5000 Ohio jobs. The average pay will be $34,000 plus full benefits.

The site will be located in a central location (between Columbus, Cincinnati and Dayton) off I-71 at State Route 73 in Clinton County.


I'm a libertarian, so I've always thought gambling, among other things, should be legal everywhere. My natural inclination is to vote for this,

BUT...

It's about 2 miles from the fair, if it passes. I fear that this thing will drive up the property value all around it to the point that the owner of the fair couldn't afford to have that land just sitting there doing nothing most of the year.

Thoughts?

Am I all wrong? Would this be a benefit to the fair?

Old Tinker

Ah Synikul, thy thoughts are warranted. the talk now has been go'n on for quiet some years. as any large scale development takes to cross all the t's and dot the i's. there was an article last year about this endeavor. now it looks to grow from rumors and gossip, to reality. as you say this could be the demise of OHRF,
or,
this could be a chance for OHRF to be one of the draws to the development. with the traffic that will increase, mayhaps also thee attendance at OHRF will grow to the point where the owners could not afford to do anything else but keep OHRF runn'n.
one way or another,
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jinx

On a personal level...I'm totally applying for a job if it gets built.  XD

As for Faire, I think it could easily be beneficial.  Loads of people would come down on weekends to gamble, go to the spa, and generally have some sort of getaway.  It would allow for quite a lot of advertisement for ORF, which, of course, would probably create a higher level of attendance.  It's also possible that, in order to keep ORF up (in the event that property value skyrocketed), the ORF grounds could take on other events throughout the year.  I'm sure a lot of playtrons would be more than happy to see, say...a Christmas event of some sort, or an extended festival season.  Of course, I'm also the person that thinks the ORF grounds would make for an awesome Summer Acting Camp for kids, but that's probably a good bit far-fetched, considering the lack of general running water and things...day camp, maybe?  XD  Not only would these things bring in money, but it would also supply longer-running and more frequent jobs for those that work at Faire.  All in all, this part of Ohio is "quaint," and I think it could bring a lot of revenue to smaller, family owned businesses in the area.
 
Basically, I feel that other actions would be made before closing the Faire down, and I'd be more than willing to supply ideas.  ^.^

...And if they were to close it down...who wants to chain themselves to the gates with me?  In garb.  A Renaissance Sit-In, if you will.
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anne of oaktower

First of all, I've never been to OHRF...but a Faire is a Faire, and I wouldn't want to see any one of them die.  I hope to make it to OHRF one day in the near future, so I certainly wouldn't want an issue like this to cause its demise.

Perhaps OHRF could take a lesson or two from PARF - they have something going on almost year round.  I think their "season" begins around April with and Earth Day celebration (or something along those lines) and then there's something going on almost every month right on through until the New Year's Eve party.  Naturally, nothing is quite as big as Faire, but there must be a good turn out for everything else, 'cause they keep on doing it all!
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Synikul

Quotethis could be a chance for OHRF to be one of the draws to the development. with the traffic that will increase, mayhaps also thee attendance at OHRF will grow to the point where the owners could not afford to do anything else but keep OHRF runn'n.

QuotePerhaps OHRF could take a lesson or two from PARF - they have something going on almost year round.  I think their "season" begins around April with and Earth Day celebration (or something along those lines) and then there's something going on almost every month right on through until the New Year's Eve party.  Naturally, nothing is quite as big as Faire, but there must be a good turn out for everything else, 'cause they keep on doing it all!


The only way I can see ORF surviving this development is if it turned into a permanent event, or at least from spring through autumn. That way it could capitalize on the crowds that will be coming into the area. The drawback to that is it would totally change the nature of the business. How many current vendors and performers could commit to that? The only way we could do that is if one of us quit our day job and turned fairy wings into a full time career.


Amra the Lion

One thing you haven't mentioned is the pull out of DHL from ABX and Wilmington. There stands to be a loss of close to 8,000 jobs over the next year and property values have dropped over 30% in the last 2 months. You can't sell a house in and around Wilmington so the addition of a casino may just balance the property value decline out and not even affect OHRF. If anything, I think it will benefit the fair.

I love the suggestions of making use of the grounds for longer periods. It's such a cool village it's a shame to see it empty for so long during the year.

Poof Bird

But wait...  I thought that Ohio had a law against casinos?  That's why down in Cincy everyone goes over to Indiana to gamble.

Personally, I have zero interest in this project.  It's in bad taste, even with all the jobs it may bring.

Sir William Marcus



Curious, if anyone has seen the Ohio tourism commercial featuring the Reds & OHRF??
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Ratman and Bobin

We just watched it, its on the Discover Ohio website. Here is the link --- http://consumer.discoverohio.com/ --- scroll to the bottom of the page and select video #3.  ;D
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Sir William Marcus

Exactly!  Residing in the next state to the west I have seen it many times on television. I just shows how much confidence & pride your state has in OHRF to incorporate it in their tourism campaign.
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Synikul

On Sunday night I had a chance to talk to Peter, so I asked him about this. He says he's insulated from the negative side of this that I was worried about because the county line is right next to the fair, and because of the Harveysburg zoning laws that he helped write. He's already working with the casino owners on promoting the fair with them. He says it will be the best thing that ever happened to the fair, and in practical terms could mean an extra 2000 people a day. He said he'd be happy to talk to anyone who has any other concerns about this. So, vote yes on Issue 6. He satisfied my problems with it.

celtaban

Personally, I'm not either counting chickens or shedding tears.  The whole thing sounds like pie-in-the-sky bye-and-bye.  There are BIG hurdles between this project and reality, the first one being voters.

The second is financing.  Unless this undertaking has private investors with extremely deep pockets, it's unlikely to get the money it needs - at least from any lender that has to answer to stockholders.  Not so long ago, when the credit situation was much more freewheeling, it might have been done, but not now.  And private investors with that kind of money are taking it to Dubai, not recession-plagued Ohio.

Who is going to promise to finance a huge, risky project that can't so much as put a shovel in the ground until the laws are changed, all the relevant officials and agencies are brought on board, and the state and/or county will agree to upgrade connector roads?  A handful of people - or even just one - raising objections at any point could bring the whole thing to a halt.  Lenders already have all the headaches they can handle without buying into something like this.

Synikul

Quote from: celtaban on September 03, 2008, 11:31:24 AM
Personally, I'm not either counting chickens or shedding tears.  The whole thing sounds like pie-in-the-sky bye-and-bye.  There are BIG hurdles between this project and reality, the first one being voters.

True. So far the bible thumping voters have defeated every change in the gambling laws, and they might do the same with this.

QuoteThe second is financing.  Unless this undertaking has private investors with extremely deep pockets, it's unlikely to get the money it needs - at least from any lender that has to answer to stockholders.  Not so long ago, when the credit situation was much more freewheeling, it might have been done, but not now.  And private investors with that kind of money are taking it to Dubai, not recession-plagued Ohio.

You're dead wrong on this point. The financing is already in place, it was worked out long before the idea got this far. Look around America, and you'll see that people are putting up casinos everywhere they are allowed to do so, and they all make tons of money. It's a legal problem, not a money problem, and it's entirely possible that Dubai is where some of the capital is coming from. They're buying up as many American assets as they can, like Japan was doing in the 80s.

Just a gut feeling, but I get the sense that you've bought into the daily stream of BS about the economy that the newsmedia is shoveling onto us. Correct me if I'm wrong.




Old Tinker


Quotebought into the daily stream of BS about the economy that the newsmedia is shoveling onto us.

had to just say that Synikul is a sharp cookie. to many fall into this catagory(am not refer'n to any one person), and it cycles time and time again, become'n a whirlpool of misled thoughts.
wish we had a TRUE media, like in the old days, did me's ever tell ya,,,, Oh, sorry, no soapbox for this Old Tinker,   
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celtaban

If you know where the capital is coming from, and you know it's still secure, it would certainly bolster your argument to name names and cite your source.

And, yes, since you requested correction in such a charming manner, it gives me the greatest delight to confirm that it will be unnecessary - I have indeed bought into a great deal of B.S.!

I read Business Stories with Bountiful Statistics, because I regard them as the Best, Scientifically - far Better Sources than the Bloviating Shouters of talk radio and cable news.

Here are some of my sources:

From this country, newspapers and assorted journals nationwide, both "mainstream" and otherwise - from the Wall Street Journal to Mother Jones;

From overseas, The Guardian, The Financial Times, The Economist, The Asia Times (particularly during the recent riots over Bread Shortages), and assorted sources from Australia;

Peabody Award winner Bill Moyers, the Broadcasting Sage whose PBS program Now with Bill Moyers has documented various ways the financial downturn has hurt ordinary people (see his piece on the Cleveland foreclosure problem - you'll find it easy to understand; he uses real pictures and everything);

And,

Local news reports about food pantries trying to keep up with expanding need;

Ditto regarding the county's charitable health clinics as fewer people can afford medical care;

An ever-increasing list of foreclosures in our county newspaper.

It's understandable if you're Bemused, Synikul.  Our financial system worldwide is poorly regulated, leading to periodic turmoil and hardship.  When you return to your own world - perhaps the one Beyond Saturn? - I'm sure it will be with a new appreciation for the Better System enjoyed by the people of Uranus.