SWFF Patron's Campgrounds

[Morrigan]

I was not aware you had reported this to campground security; I'm glad to hear that you did.

[9sparksfly]

Also, Bonny, the area that we stumbled into isn't designated as clan camping on the official map - it was the area right next to the cul-de-sac across from RV/Small Trailer camping.

I'm given to understand that it was very recently claimed and settled, which is why it wasn't on the map.

Confusing, I know. :-/

[9sparksfly]

And, in all fairness, our camping buddy was embarrassingly drunk. Seriously, I wouldn't have wanted him staggering around our campgrounds, either. 

We were confused and lost and unaware of clan camping etiquette, our "friend" created and then incensed a situation, and those guys were plain old provoked. I don't agree with the level of vehemence, like I said, but I certainly can sympathize with their frustrations.

[PollyPoPo]

In response to GryffinSong's query, I did a quick search for the word etiquette on the forums and found little about camping.

I have started a thread under Sherwood asking for input from everybody as to recommendations.

Maybe we can answer GryffinSong and others who might have questions (me included )

[Bonny Pearl]

It sounds like a classic example of two wrongs not making it right.  Your friend for acting in a way to put people on edge and people in this clan going with the assumption that you were 'birds of a feather' when it came to your association with the friend.

Reporting it to security was a good move.  It is in their hands now.

[Bonny Pearl]

Perhaps we'll see each other, Bonny Pearl.

Perhaps we will Polly!  We will be in the general camping area with our travel trailer.  If you wander around and think of it, look for Scottish flags flying from the flagpole mounted on the bumper and a small McLotofus sticker on the back window.   

[Bonny Pearl]

I would like to assure everyone that this event did NOT happen at the Impaler campsite.

Yep, I bet we can safely assume that you and your crew were most likely up to other shenanigans lol!   See y'all this weekend?

[RowenD]

RowenD - that's my point precisely.  I saw MANY other clan areas; all were clearly (and awesomely!) marked.  I read that enclosures had to meet certain guidelines, but a simple rope (or even a sign) would have been pretty effective.

But, to their credit, it wasn't just a case of someone wandering in.  Like I said earlier, even though my husband and I had no idea what was going on, these guys had pointedly asked our camping buddy to stay the eff out.  Do I think that gave them the right to vent their frustrations on his two companions, who'd clearly never met them?  Nah.  And I certainly don't think it gave them the right to detain us, prevent us from leaving the way we came, or threaten us. 

It does make sense, though, that if I was the one who'd cleared the land and who'd created the shortcut in the first place, I'd feel pretty possessive.  I'm glad I know, now! 

First-Thanks Polly, for the clarification of rules-Sounds more like SCA (nothing allowed that looks modern) than event camping,  to preserve the ambiance.
  Sparksfly-I've dealt with almost the same issue. A few years back, hubby and I were invited to walk with a group in a St' Paddy's day parade.   The person who invited us apparently had some serious personal issues with the leader of the group.  After the host vented at the guy, (not about us, but about an unrelated issue ), he was gracious enough to assure us that we were still welcome to walk with the group, but the guy who invited us was only allowed along because of us. 
Uncomfortable.

[PollyPoPo]

Sorry, RowenD, if I sounded like it was anything close to SCA - it is not that kind of accuracy.  It is only that faire management is trying to keep the foresty(?) atmosphere rather than a plastic jungle of neon and strobe lights. 

Groups in reserved areas agreed to certain limitations keeping with the forest feel. 

As with any endeavor there will be people who want something different.  Hopefully we can keep Sherwood camping enjoyable for most of the people.

(edit - I find it difficult to phrase posts in this kind of forum so as not to be misconstrued by someone, trying to place myself on the other side and read my postings as if I had not seen them before.  It is too easy to forget that other people often do not have the same frame of reference.  Sorry for any misunderstandings.)

[spikey]

Bonnie-Shenanigans is something my crew takes Pride in. However, we were the ones that did have a rope swing that somebody's kids were playing on Friday before i arrived even though we had a rope across the entrance and had to remove the swing. It was implied in a previous post that this altercation occurred at that same campsite. It absolutely did not happen at the Impaler campsite. We had music, food, and fire for all that visited last weekend. Yes, I will also be there this weekend too. Hope to see you there. Come see our Green Fairies!

[PollyPoPo]

Sorry, Spikey.  As you have found, the "attractive nuisance" concept applies in camp as well as neighborhoods.  Not the same as a swimming pool, but an unattended swing, rope, hammock, whatever, attracts kids. 

We often have kids in our camp, but they stay in our camp unless attended by an adult or specifically invited to another campsite. 

As others have stated, it is a matter of respect, something that unfortunately is too often lacking, whether it is kids or adults who do not acknowledge boundaries. 

Glad to see you defend your clan's reputation here.

[Bonny Pearl]

Bonnie-Shenanigans is something my crew takes Pride in. However, we were the ones that did have a rope swing that somebody's kids were playing on Friday before i arrived even though we had a rope across the entrance and had to remove the swing. It was implied in a previous post that this altercation occurred at that same campsite. It absolutely did not happen at the Impaler campsite. We had music, food, and fire for all that visited last weekend. Yes, I will also be there this weekend too. Hope to see you there. Come see our Green Fairies!

Well it is a shame you had to take the swing down.  I didn't think y'all were involved in this situation at all.  Your crew is very much like the rest of us in that we are more inclined help people, not harass.

We will be camping in the general camping area and will come by and see y'all for sure!  Will the powder monkeys be out?  We will have Wee MacKee with us.

[spikey]

Bonnie-Sorry, there will not be any children with us this weekend. We did add several more young ones to the crew this last year though.

[Bonny Pearl]

Well that is okay and I can't wait to meet the newest members of the crew.  Wee MacKee will stay busy with other maniacs out there.

[*Teach*]

I'm pretty shocked at that kind of behavior from any clan out there. I know that we have escorted people from Phoenix Risen who were drunken and belligerent but I have never heard of a clan that tried to actually hang on to someone for security to come and get them. For the most part we just want the badness to go away.
I've also never heard of a clan getting that angry about someone taking a shortcut through there camp at night. For the most part it is just a quick conversation of asking who the wandering soul is and then sending them to where they are going. (During the day we are much more protective on that due to thefts).
I'm sad to hear people saying they are rethinking camping because of a couple of complaints. This place is quite honestly the most secure and well taken care of campground that i have ever seen. The sad fact that 1% can ruin it for 99% is a truth in many places.
I was also noticing a bit of a trend in some of the comments that made the clans sound elitist or cliquish. We aren't. We do spend our own money and time to stake out a piece of land that we get to use as long as we maintain our area and our numbers. And we do get a bit protective of that space. There are many people on these forums that I have personally invited to camp with our clan because they seemed to be drama-free and willing to help maintain the clan camp area.
So come out to the campgrounds. Enjoy yourselves. Go up to any clan area you want and ask if you can stop in to visit. I am betting you would be happily surprised.

*bring rum to PR and ask for Teach. You will have made a friend quickly that way.*