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Started by verymerryseamstress, July 17, 2008, 08:14:05 AM

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Capt Gabriela Fullpepper

Fun tidbit on Unicorns. The Populace may have thought they existed and the reasoning is this.

A few weeks ago I saw a non-doctored photgraph from a scientific website that showed a Roe deer with 1 antler. The antler was growing right dead center of his forehead and came to a single point. The jounel went on to say that while this was rare, it was not the first instance of it. It was the first time they had seen it growing dead center. Most were usually off center. It was noted this this could have sparked the belief in Unicorns. SO in retrospect Unicorns may have truely existed to those in times past.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/06/080612-AP-unicorn-photo.html
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/06/11/unicorn-deer-italy.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_TvkB1-XeE

It would be easy to see how one could easily say these are unicorns
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Anna Iram

Aww..cute little unideer.


Here's a thread that may be helpful:

http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/berengaria/nov98.html


The author states lacing rings were used around the lacing hole. I'd thought rings were only sewn on one end so as to allow the cord to string through the ring itself and not the fabric. I have seen photos of metal rings sewn into a belt hole. Perhaps this is what we are looking at?

Miranda

They are used either way.  Either to reinforce a stitched eyelet as described here:http://www.modehistorique.com/stays/halfbonedstays.html
Or
Stitched on as described in Anna Iram's post, shown here:
http://www.festiveattyre.com/research/lacing/lace1.html

I believe we are seeing both types in the Adoration Painting.
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Lady L

Quote from: Angus on July 23, 2008, 03:45:40 AM
Lady L,

I most certainly understand your point, however while there were not real "Unicorns", there were undoubtably real "Unicorn Horns".

While such creatures were not seen, their horns were, and as so they existed... (because if the horns existed, so must the creature.)

A Unicorn horn was worked into the Medicis' Royal Chalice, to combat poison.

...the reality of it, is now known as a "Narwhale horn".

...however this little factoid does not negate your point of "Artistic License".

Yes, I am quite aware of narwhale horns. The thing is, though, narwhales do not look like any of the unicorns that were painted or stitched during the Renaissance. I don't recall seeing any paintings of just the horn by itself. It's usually on the head of a 4 legged, hoofed (quadruped ungulate) animal... sometimes it looks more like a small goat and others depict it more horse-like. But not whale-like.  :) So, if artists could invent such a creature, how difficult would it be for them to paint something such as grommets?
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Lady L

Yes, I saw that too, Lady de Laney.  :)
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