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Burda 7977 Sideless Surcoat - Revisited

Started by Escarlata, September 03, 2008, 06:53:09 AM

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Escarlata

Update:

Kathleen brought the underdress for a fitting yesterday afternoon. We decided the width of the back needs adjusting, apparently I'm fairly narrow through the back. The length was almost perfect so she'll be putting the hem in and I expect to have it this afternoon. I'm looking forward to having this outfit for the winter, in spite of the modified sleeves, as the materials are warm. Yummy for warm clothing.

We adjusted the neckline of the overdress to match the mods I'd requested to the underdress and I sewed it up last night. Having seen how the under needed adjusting in the back, I wasn't surprised when I put the over on and found that I'll have to make essentially the same changes.  What did surprise me was where the bottom of the side openings fall. They are much lower than I expected and much lower than I want. When Kathleen brings the under back today, I'm going to ask her advise on methods to adjust that. I think I know what's necessary but want a more experienced seamstress to take a look at it with me.

Anyway, things are progressing and I'm looking forward to how this will turn out. It'll be different, that's for sure.
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Escarlata

Update:

All the adjustments have been made, it now fits the way I wanted it to. Had help getting the hem pinned up today (one of these days I've got to get a dress form) and I'll tackle the hem tomorrow. Then there's nothing left but trimming all the strings and packing.

New dress to debut at MnRF on Fest Friday. Here's hoping for the best.

The outfit won't actually be complete until I get to see Ladyfair and her other half (Hi Dave!) in February. They're going to make the finishing touches for me, just a bit of bling.
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Kate XXXXXX

Glad you got that all sorted out.   :)

Do we get to see pix now, or do we have to wait until February?  (If so I shall pout!   ;) )

Escarlata

Not til February, Kate, but at least until after the weekend. Camera's already packed for the trip.
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Kate XXXXXX


Escarlata

Would you believe that I've only seen three pictures of me in the dress and none of them really show it.

MG caught me giving her fella a kilt check, you can see the colors but not much else:



*chuckling* The other two are pretty much the same and one of them would get this thread thrown to John's Inn. And, no, it wasn't a kilt check in that one, but a banana *shrugs* would you expect anything less?

The surcoat will get some work, it's ... sloppy is really the only word to describe how it looks and feels. I know it's not period accurate, and I don't know how it will look, but I'm seriously considering putting some darts in it. As it is, I do a ducktail (folded over pleat like men do to the backs of the shirts when tucking them  in) in the front and back after I get the belt on. I think I'm just going to sew those in. I'm also going to figure out a way to attach the belt (lobster claws sewn on, I think) at the back waist to keep it in the position I want.
Esc be no lady!
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Anna Iram

I had the same experince with mine. After wearing a bodice that cinches and keeps everything in place, it feels odd to wear something so loose. Mine, too, shifted about on my shoulders as I moved about, so the neckline always felt a bit askew.

My thoughts, for their worth, was to wear a more form fitting under dress so the looseness of the overdress reveled the figure beneath. If the chemise/underdress is loose it looses it's lines entirely.

Do you know the impact this gown had when it first became a fashion? It was considered the devils creation because it was so provocative to see "inside" of a womans gown .  :)

Escarlata

My underdress fits very nicely *chuckling* the material has spandex in it. And can you imagine the scandal with my modified sleeves? They are a bat wing style, long and full enough to keep me warm but open and loose enough to give lots of little glimpses. And we'll not even imagine which stake I'd have been burned on for the adjustments to the neckline *wicked grin*

I remembered seeing the problem you had with the shoulders slipping around at Ft Myers last year, Anna, and added a button to the top of each shoulder seam on the underdress. The overdress shoulder seams were left open the width of the buttons in the center of each seam. Slip the buttons in and the whole thing became one unit. It came together nicely and I was pleased with the outcome on that part. The buttons have the added benefit of allowing me to attach my pin tabs if I decide I want to wear them.
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JaimieEnchanted

I sincerely wish I had found these comments when I started making this pattern! :)  I am on a beginner's dressmaking course in England and the instructions were not easy to follow -they seem to assume a certain level of knowledge!  When the pattern said 'easy', I thought it meant for anyone, but it seems to be something which is probably easy if you are a more experienced seamstress, rather than a notice needlewoman like me! :D  I had the same issue as Esc with the extension pieces, which transpired to be pattern extension pieces (to be stuck onto another bit of pattern, before cutting out)! Sadly, it took me a while to figure that out on my own!  Thank you very much for the questions, comments and guidance here - it's a massive help  :-*  I am still in the middle of making mine - facings are sewn on and edge stitched, I am about to set in the sleeves, which fills me with dread, but hope I will get there! 

isabelladangelo

Just an FYI, people have been born since this thread was created and are now old enough to at least read most of it.   Please be careful when resurrecting old threads like this. 

operafantomet

Quote from: isabelladangelo on March 11, 2015, 10:31:53 AM
Just an FYI, people have been born since this thread was created and are now old enough to at least read most of it.   Please be careful when resurrecting old threads like this.
I find it opposite - instead of having nine threads about the exact same topic/pattern/whatever in a forum, I find it more convenient to gather everything in one thread and read from finish to start.

mollymishap

LOL!  I got a good chuckle out of re-reading it, though it is quite the blast from the past.  I remember the hack of the old forum like it was yesterday...except it was 7 (gasp!) years ago. 

But anyway, back to the topic at hand:  JaimieEnchanted!  Welcome to the forum!!!  Please post pictures of your process, it may well be that others have had/will have similar experiences as yours and who knows?  Maybe your work will help some other seamstress down the line as well!

Gem, were you one of the people who was working on this pattern?  Maybe you can weigh in as well, since Kate seems to be AWOL.  :(   

gem

Quote from: mollymishap on March 11, 2015, 10:15:46 PM
Gem, were you one of the people who was working on this pattern?  Maybe you can weigh in as well, since Kate seems to be AWOL.  :(

I was not! And I'm surprised that this thread is entirely new to me! (Not so very surprised; I was AWOL from pretty much everything in Sept of 2008 due to family/work commitments.) But like the others said, it's like a whole new thread! LOL

Lady Rosalind

Quote from: gem on March 12, 2015, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: mollymishap on March 11, 2015, 10:15:46 PM
Gem, were you one of the people who was working on this pattern?  Maybe you can weigh in as well, since Kate seems to be AWOL.  :(

I was not! And I'm surprised that this thread is entirely new to me! (Not so very surprised; I was AWOL from pretty much everything in Sept of 2008 due to family/work commitments.) But like the others said, it's like a whole new thread! LOL

LOL, my first thought when I started reading this was that we had gotten hacked again, then I looked at the dates. Wow! I can't believe how long ago that was!