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Florentine/Italian documentation question

Started by gem, September 24, 2008, 05:14:19 PM

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isabelladangelo

That's the sketch that inspired this dress from the movie Ever After. ;)

operafantomet

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Haven't been able to find the standing Venetian woman I had in mind, but I took a closer look at another one:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/venezia1/carpaccioven.jpg

Again it's something that looks like an apron in front, but when inspecting it closer you can see that it's in the back as well - making it a sort of overskirt with high splits on each side. The lower sleeves are very similar to Lynn McMaster's ensemble, but the bodice is different again. No overgown-feeling to it, no V split. But at least there is a waist seam!

This one had the "correct" bodice and sleeves, but not the split skirt:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/venezia1/carpaccio1495b.jpg

isabelladangelo - I agree. That sketch is wonderful, and quite close to the dress/overdress. I always saw it as Florentine, but when I started looking at reference photos it struck me just as much as Venetian.

(ETA: I just re-read my post, and it looked like I thought the drawing posted originally was Florentine.. That is not the case. I meant to say I always saw Lynn McMaster's outfit as Florentine, but when looking closer at similar examples from the art, it appeared more Venetian in style)

Cilean

Hey Gem,

I have seen this in person, and it is a jeweled belt that holds the giornea or overgown.  It is an upholstery weight fabric so it hung to the ground very well.
and when you put a belt on to hold the front? I noticed that when you walk the back of the giornea gives you a great sweeping look!


I hope that helps!
Cilean
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