New patterns! Simplicity 2621 and 2589

[Pascal]

Picked up mine today for .99 -- sale started today, runs through Saturday.

When I looked the other day, there was just one copy of each pattern.  When I went today, they had a dozen or so of each.

[Margaret]

Got mine today!

Gussets.  The square neck chemise has gussets!!  /cries with the beauty of it all....


Seriously - yes there are a few tweeks that would need to be made to make these patterns 100% HA, but...  They.  Are.  GOOD.

[Valencia]

I picked up both today.  The Tudor gown laces up the back; the Tudor Tailor shows the gown lacing in the front with a placard covering the lacing, which is how I made my gown.  I always thought the covered lacing was HA for these gowns, not back lacing.  I might try the corset, it looks pretty cool.

[sealion]

I picked up both patterns in both sizes this afternoon. (Smaller for my daughter, larger for me. :sigh: ) I want to see how the corset and farthingale compare to the Margo Anderson patterns.  If I ever actually use the gown pattern I would try to figure out how to make it front lacing with a placard. Maybe cut two fronts with the bottom layer split for lacing and the upper layer stiched at one side and pinned closed at the other? The other thing I was wondering about as far as accuracy goes is that I was under the impression that Tudor gowns were worn over a supportive, possibly boned, kirtle rather than a corset?

[GirlChris]

Hey, I'm just impressed that they actually call it a "farthingale" on the back of the envelope, instead of just a "hoop skirt" or "crinoline." And they actually have a wooden busk in the corset! Wow!

I'm totally getting this pattern, just so I can make my own farthingale. I've got no problem or worries about drafting my own gown- it's the undergarments that have had me putting it off!

[Margaret]

The other thing I was wondering about as far as accuracy goes is that I was under the impression that Tudor gowns were worn over a supportive, possibly boned, kirtle rather than a corset?

Right in one.  There was a corset underwear and a kirtle with the under skirt attatched.  The over gown laced at the front and a placard covered the front lacing of the gown.

At first glance, the pattern does not look too tough to tweek into that.

[Taffy Saltwater]

I made my schlep to Joann's this afternoon.  They did not have any new patterns & the clerk did not know when they were coming in.  A customer sidled up to me at the pattern file cabinets & said they don't sell the new ones till the old ones are gone.  I did buy some that I would never buy otherwise "just in case" and buttons for my spats.

[LadyShadow]

I had no problem finding plenty of the new ones at my JoAnns.  Thats a bummer though.

[tigerlilly]

I don't know if any of you remember, but I do, when simplicity thought a good medieval pattern was that awful pink thing with ruffles at the neck and hem! Then they added a pointy hat and called it "maid marion". They have come a LONG way since then! I think we, as customers, have been heard on this issue!
A few year's ago, I went to a chat where the "historical" pattern designers were and there were quite a few of us saying we wanted better, higher quality medieval and renaissance patterns. At the time, I wasn't sure if they really heard us, but now I think they did.

You mean this thing?  From my stash, purchased about ten years ago.  I was young and foolish, and I only bought it for the men's shirt pattern, and maybe I used the dress as a chemise and left off the ruffle.  At the time, I think it was just about the best thing available from the big companies.  Holy crap, what a difference a decade makes!

[Athena]

YIKES!!! That's more Halloween than faire.

I don't know if any of you remember, but I do, when simplicity thought a good medieval pattern was that awful pink thing with ruffles at the neck and hem! Then they added a pointy hat and called it "maid marion". They have come a LONG way since then! I think we, as customers, have been heard on this issue!
A few year's ago, I went to a chat where the "historical" pattern designers were and there were quite a few of us saying we wanted better, higher quality medieval and renaissance patterns. At the time, I wasn't sure if they really heard us, but now I think they did.

  Holy crap, what a difference a decade makes!

Most of those old Simplicity patterns can be found on Ebay. I remember one in particular that looked like a cross between an medieval gown and a formal suit. The bodice closed in the front like a jacket and had lapels!    I'm no stickler for accuracy, but some of those older patterns are cringe worthy. There definitely have been improvements since then!

I went to Jo Ann after work yesterday and quickly snatched up those new patterns!

[Lady L]

You mean this thing?  From my stash, purchased about ten years ago.  I was young and foolish, and I only bought it for the men's shirt pattern, and maybe I used the dress as a chemise and left off the ruffle.  At the time, I think it was just about the best thing available from the big companies.  Holy crap, what a difference a decade makes!

Aye, that be the one, tigerlilly! However, I stand corrected, it was butterick that made the blunder, not simplicity. I had the right number, wrong company. *slaps head*
I do search through some of the old pattern websites, such as ebay, rustyzipper, momspatterns.com, etc. It is truly amazing, how much historical patterns have improved! I started sewing garb in 1998, when I bought my shop. There were a few available back then, but these are SO much better!

[GirlChris]

Just a thought- what is the circumference on the farthingale? Would it fit under, say, the Simplicity Elizabethan pattern (3782) which didn't come with a farthingale or a corset pattern?

[redkimba]

Picked mine up from Hancock Fabrics.  I did go to Joann's, but they were completely out.  Thank you so much for posting this pattern.  I look forward making a new dress for Scarborough....

[Lady Renee Buchanan]

I live a half hour from Joanne's in Dubuque, IA.  I called this morning to see if they had them, and they said they only had the farthingale pattern and they would hold it for me.  When I got there, a lady was finishing putting boxes of patterns in the drawer, so I asked her about the Tudor one, and she checked and it was there!  So I got both.  Which is ironic, because all I can sew is a button and a hem.

But someday...... maybe, just maybe.......

By the way, I guess there aren't a lot of people in Dubuque who by Renaissance patterns, because they had lots in both sizes.  I was the first to buy both of them.  And on sale for 99 cents each. 

[Margaret]

Just a thought- what is the circumference on the farthingale? Would it fit under, say, the Simplicity Elizabethan pattern (3782) which didn't come with a farthingale or a corset pattern?

They go like this (for the bottom hoop only):

size 8 & 10:  115.5"
size 12 & 14:  118.5"
size 16:  120.5:
size 18 & 20:  122.5"
size 22 & 24:  126.5"