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Started by Monsignor de Beaumanoir, May 08, 2008, 09:53:02 AM

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Richard de Graeme

Quote from: Sir William Marcus on July 15, 2009, 12:17:39 PM
LOL.. What a great pic Richard!

Thank you, Sir William. A great day for all!
"For it is the doom of man that they forget."
NE OUBLIE!
Purveyor of dubious wisdom
Player of spoons
Herbalist

Richard de Graeme

Quote from: Femme Falchion on July 15, 2009, 03:10:32 PM


Was that a slip of the tongue Frere Vert?  Don't you mean salvation?   ;D ;)


Temptation and salvation...dual edges to same blade, Sister. ;D
"For it is the doom of man that they forget."
NE OUBLIE!
Purveyor of dubious wisdom
Player of spoons
Herbalist

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

A late BTW note on this day in Our Era of History: :o

A sad day in the Teutonic Order's history :'(- the Battle of Grunwald! >:(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grunwald

Sir William Marcus

Right at the last minute we decided to head back down to KYHRF to check out Tartanic, and say goodbye to this faire till next year as it was the last weekend.  You will never guess who we ran into.... 


VENI, VIDI, VELCRO! Spelling and grammatical errors are beyond my control, it's the way I'm wired.

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

Christopher Lee........no wait......Brendan Gleeson........no..........Frere Santa Claus?

Who man...spit it out! Were the magical representations done?

Sir William Marcus

#2645
Sorry my brother as it was none of thee above.

  It was none other than....






















































He never saw us coming..

Game Over!  ;)
VENI, VIDI, VELCRO! Spelling and grammatical errors are beyond my control, it's the way I'm wired.

Femme Falchion

for those of us with less experience..... what is it?
Domina Virago
Grand Mistress of the Order of the Hatchet
Mother Confessor
Sister of the Spring Fires

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

LOL!

Assassin's Creed for Xbox 360- $50.00

Assassin's Creed Altair outfit for festival- $600.00

Finding out at the faire that you're not the "Assassin Bada$$" you hoped to be by encountering Warrior Monks of the Temple- Priceless!!

;D




Monsignor de Beaumanoir

#2648
Quote from: Femme Falchion on July 20, 2009, 08:16:16 AM
for those of us with less experience..... what is it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed

There are many ambiguities and incorrect info, but the graphics are awesome!

Femme Falchion

Did you verbally engage the assassin Brother William?  That would make for some interesting role playing! 

Domina Virago
Grand Mistress of the Order of the Hatchet
Mother Confessor
Sister of the Spring Fires

Lairde Daniel

Hail all.  I have been looking at your past scribes and am very impressed with the knowledge that is present.  Warrior Monk, since I come from the highlands of Clan Robertson I am interested to know of any dealings between the Scottish Lairdes and the order of the Templars.  Would you please provide some enlightment?
Virtutis gloria merces
The Order of Culloden Moor

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

Pax vobiscum Lairde Daniel!

I will most certainly dig up what I can upon my return home. Let me start by saying that the Davinci Code didn't help by clarifying anything. Although it is known that the Templars held properties in Scotland, the whole Sinclaire thing is quite a mess. Roslyn was built well after the disolution of the Order.

There is some rumor that the first Grand Master was actually married to a Scottish lass. I will dig through my library and come up with Scottish related specifics.

There is also the epic fabrication of Templars coming to Robert the Bruces' rescue at Banockburn. The Knights in white turning back Edward II's forces due to their fierce reputation.

Welcome again! ;D

Lairde Daniel

Thank you kind brother.  While the highland blood runs through me, I am intrigued by the Knights and their history.  Don't think my kilts would go well with the surcoat!
Virtutis gloria merces
The Order of Culloden Moor

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

Quick assist (ref: trial of Templars)

In 1128 the cousin of St Bernard of Clairvaux, Hugues de Payens, who served on the First Crusade with Henri St Clair, 2nd Baron of Roslin, and is sometimes connected to Catherine St Clair, met King David I in Scotland. The Order established a seat at Balantrodoch, now Temple, Midlothian on the South Esk (River Esk, Lothian). In 1189 Alan FitzWalter, the 2nd Lord High Steward of Scotland was a benefactor of The Order.

In about the year 1187, William the Lion granted part of the Culter lands on the south bank of the River Dee, Aberdeenshire, to the Knights Templar and between 1221 and 1236 Walter Bisset of Aboyne founded a Preceptory for the Knights Templar. In 1287 and 1288 they built a Chapel dedicated to Mary the Mother of Christ, known as St Mary's Chapel and in November 1309, the names of a William Middleton of the "Tempill House of Culter" was recorded.

It has been claimed that in 1309 during the trial of the Templars in Scotland Bishop Lamberton of St Andrews, Guardian of Scotland 1299-1301 gave the Templars his protection, thought there is no evidence to support this. It should also be recorded that John of Fordun's Chronicle of the Scottish Nation a major Scottish mediaeval source makes no mention of the Templars at all.

The Knight Templars had considerable possessions in the County of Nairn, or Moray, in 1296. The following extract is taken from The History of Nairn:

" ...There is a writ extant granted in their [the Knight Templars] favour at Berwick, addressed to the Sheriff of Invernairn to put them in possession of their lands, they having made submission to Edward I. This was no doubt done. From the deed of conveyance of the Temple lands in the North from Lord Torpichen, the last Master of the Order, it appears that the following were the lands held here "Those two roods of arable land lying within the territory of the Burgh of Nairn, in that part thereof called possessed by John Rose, burgess of Nairn, and his sub-tenants; those two roods of arable temple land and house lying within the said territory of Nairn, possessed by Hew Rose of Kilravock and his sub-tenants; all and haill those our temple lands called the lands of Pitfundie lying in the said Sheriffdom of Nairn, betwixt the strype that conies from the lands of Brodie on the east, the fludder or myre upon the south side of the common muir called the Hardmuir on the south side, the lands of Penick and wood of Lochloy on the west, and the Euchcarse of Culbyn on the north, for the most part possessed by the lairds of Brodie, and their sub-tenants." They had also lands at Ardersier, which are designated in old charters as Temple Land, Temple Cruik, Temple Bank, Bogschand. They lay partly in the vicinity of the town of Ardersier, between Connage and the sea, and between Flemington and the sea. A charter granted at Nairn refers to the locus trialis at Ardersier, doubtless an ancient place of trial by "wager of battle." The Temple lands of Ardersier were held by Davidsons and Mackays as portioners. They were acquired by Cawdor in 1626. The Temple lands at Brodie and elsewhere appear to have been disposed of about the same time, as in a Brodie, charter of date 1626 the lands of Pitfundie are included in the Brodie estate.

The Knights of St. John of Jerusalem also had lands in Nairnshire. It is impossible now to identify them. When the Knights Templars were suppressed by Edward II, their property was given to the Knights of St. John.
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In 1312 by the Papal Bull "Ad Providam" all assets of the Order of the Temple were given to Knights Hospitaller or Order of St. John except for Spain where they were succeeded by the Order of Montesa the Order of Calatrava, from which its first recruits were drawn, and Portugal where they became the Order of Christ and it has been claimed that in Scotland the Order combined with the Hospitallers and continued as The Order of St John and the Temple until the reformation, though there is no evidence to that effect.

Lairde Daniel

Again, your knowledge is without description.  Thank you kind Sir for your quick study.  While not a prolific poster, I will continue to check in on this site and ask questions. 
Virtutis gloria merces
The Order of Culloden Moor