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Started by Monsignor de Beaumanoir, May 08, 2008, 09:53:02 AM

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Sir William Marcus

Checking in on a Hospitaller field station

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Sir William Marcus

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Lady Christina de Pond

they looks ready but ready for what?
Helmswoman of the Fiesty Lady
Lady Ashley of De Coals
Militissa in the Frati della Beata Gloriosa Vergine Mari

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

Quote from: Femme Falchion on August 13, 2008, 12:23:12 PM
and we thank for you such a fine display of the true nature of the Y chromosome   :P :P


That is why we accepted the making of these certain sacrifices.... ;) ;D :P

Sir William Marcus

Quote from: Lady Christina de Pond on August 14, 2008, 11:16:44 AM
they looks ready but ready for what?

Are you serious??   They're gearing up to go do some "saracen head thumpin!"


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Monsignor de Beaumanoir

#440
Quote from: Lady Christina de Pond on August 14, 2008, 11:16:44 AM
they looks ready but ready for what?

Somebody missed the first 29 pages of this thread...... :-[


Sir William Marcus

 Heeeeelloooooo McFly!!
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Sir Martin

#442
Greetings all.  A few months ago (before the forums were invaded by the saracen and we were forced to regroup), I asked for advice on acquiring Templar garb.  I was unable to purchase at that time, and now the links on your responses have been lost.   :(  As I prepare for TRF, I again humbly ask for your assistance.  I am looking to start out with the basics and add more accessories when possible.  My priorities are to appear as authentic as possible within a reasonable budget.  I don't want to cut corners to the point where the garb looks like a cheap halloween costume ... at the same time I don't want to break the bank either.  I am beseeching you to advise me on my options.

Could the kind and noble frere please help with the following:

Do you consider the "Templar Set" by House Morningstar a good choice?  The surcoat and burnoose should provide some flexibility for the vagaries of Texas weather.  Is there, however, another surcoat/burnoose vendor I should consider?  Is the cross emblazoned on this set not preferable?
http://housemorningstar.com/crusadertemplaritems.html

As for headgear ... what would work best for warm weather?  Would you prefer a nasal helm or simply a coif?  What would be your vendor of choice here?  If a coif would be sufficient, what should be worn underneath and where might that be acquired?

What to wear under the surcoat for a faire that is mostly warm weather?  I find cold weather less challenging as it is always possible to layer insulation underneath the prime garb.  Would a chainemaille bernie/shirt be necessary or is there another acceptable lightweight item that would look good under the surcoat?  (I doubt I would need/use the burnoose until November at TRF).

A sword and scabbard would be the next necessity.  I don't need performer/fighting class spring steel, just something that looks nice and will not fall apart if it is taken off the wall hanger.   :)

What else would I need to get started?

Thank you for your thoughts/opinions.  I thought this might be the appropriate place for this post ... if it is not, please advise and I will move it to the proper area.

Femme Falchion

Blessings and Welcome back to this thread Sir Martin.

I am confident these noble Knights here would love nothing better than to advise you on your Templar outfitting.  After all, conversion of the secular community is the ultimate goal. 

No doubt you will hear from them just as soon as they arise from a late night of slaughtering saracen infidels.  (Sorry Lady De Pond, I did my homework  ;))

How fun to create a new character!




Domina Virago
Grand Mistress of the Order of the Hatchet
Mother Confessor
Sister of the Spring Fires

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

#444
Lord Martin (soon to be Frere Martin),

Welcome back, and as Sister Falchion has said, we always seek to "Save" those in need.  ;)

The HM Templar set is ok (black fringe is out!), but you will be waiting for some time to get it. Both Frere William and I, had special order work done, so that we could get our gear done as historically accurate as possible. The lady of that facility recently passed away, so work from there has slown down.
If you're just wanting a convient Templar image, I would recommend Museum Replicas, as my history with them has always been great. They have a good Templar set, that is made from heavy weight material.
You might also seek out EBAY. Search for Kingdom of Heaven Crusader/Templar attire. The GDFB "Get Dressed For Battle" crew also has a good set, but they have teamed up with some suppliers that tend to be slow.

As for weapons and kit, again I suggest MR, but also EBAY. Seek out the blades and scabbards that are simple in appearance to adhere to the "Rule".

Hit us up any time, we love the questions, and look forward to your "induction". ;D

As for Templar crosses, there was no specific standard, and it appears they changed with the whims of the Grand Masters. We prefer to stay with the Helen Nicholson representation. Also the Order in Spain tended to live a distinctively different representational path.

Here's a couple of examples of items you might seek:

Frere William uses the sleeved robe to good effect with a coif during hot weather.
Regular surcoats require some armor under them to pull off an accurate appearance, even with a cloak.

http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=169


http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=1359


http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=1662

http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=1333



Lady Christina de Pond

 ;D sorry got pre occupied forgot to do homework ;)

Helmswoman of the Fiesty Lady
Lady Ashley of De Coals
Militissa in the Frati della Beata Gloriosa Vergine Mari

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

Today's messenger brought:


Sir William Marcus

#447
Annnnnnnnnnd... how do you like it??


Quite stunning display you have created there my brother
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Monsignor de Beaumanoir

Thank you, I thought you'd appreciate that. ;D

As for the ring; it's quite heavy...sterling silver of course. Since I DON'T often wear rings, this will be an attention getter in my mundane attire. As for how well it looks and craftsmanship: I'd give it a 9 out of 10. It's simple but makes a big statement. I recommend it for what we discussed on the side. Cost effective. ;)

Femme Falchion

Quote from: Warrior_Monk on August 15, 2008, 12:33:03 PM
I recommend it for what we discussed on the side. Cost effective. ;)

does this perchance involve black fringe?   ;) ;)

Domina Virago
Grand Mistress of the Order of the Hatchet
Mother Confessor
Sister of the Spring Fires