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Belts and frogs

Started by Jademozingo, July 14, 2009, 10:47:20 AM

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Jademozingo

Can anyone give me instructions on how to loop a belt so that it doesn't slip much?  I'm worried that once I add pouch and mug to mine and my son's belts that they will slip.  Also anyone have any suggestions for a frog for a wooden sword?  I'm sure he will ask for one this weekend and I'm wondering what he's going to do with it when he's not holding it.  I'm already working on a lil faux leather (until I'm better at it) quiver for his toy arrows.

Khaalis

What exactly do you mean by "loop a belt"? What kind of belt, a ring belt?

As for the frog, I would think all you need is a very simple dagger frog. Something similar to this. You could easily make this from pleather or other foe-leather from somewhere like JoAnne Fabrics. The sword will be relatively small and light weight so it doesn't have to have a lot of strength.
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Jademozingo

Yes, a ring belt.  I just can't seem to fix it so it doesn't keep slipping open or just very very loose.

Celtic Lady

#3
I have a leather ring belt and have no trouble with it slipping even when I have my mug, my pouch, and my dagger and frog attached.

I found this site that is selling ring belts but it also has a picture tutorial on how to tie the belt. http://www.twinrosesdesigns.com/Leather%20Belts%20Bags%20and%20Pouches%20for%20Sale.html#how

The only thing that I do differently, is instead of pulling the free end through the ring and continue going forward, I pull the free end backward so that the metal ring is now between the leather. Then I do the "down, behind and up, and down the hole" thing. It's kind of like finishing up tying a man's tie.
I hope that make sense. It's kind of like cinching up a western saddle as far as preventing slippage.

Khaalis

Aye this is how I do a ring belt as well, but I tend to do it in the opposite direction (knot to the right of the ring).

These belts will never be "tight" like a buckled belt. They are meant to be more loose and sagging.
However, if you have a problem with the knot slipping, you can follow the first 2 steps in the picture above then do this (I've done this with a number of my larger sized friends):

* Instead of bring the belt down between the 2 layers of leather as in picture 3, instead feed it back through the metal ring, in front of the original feed.
* Then pull the end back up behind the belt (this will make a very sharp angled and tight wrap at the ring).
* THEN feed the end between the existing layers of leather as in picture #3 above.

This makes a much more secure knot, though it is rougher on the leather of the belt.  Hope that makes sense.
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Jademozingo

Thanks everyone, I finally have it to where it doesn't slip after having things attached!  Funny thing was I could do my son's up but not my own for the longest on faire day.  I did finally get it, though.

Now I just have to make a kiddie sized frog for his sword, and one for his mug!