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Title: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on November 03, 2009, 01:33:49 PM
For those who knew me, you know that i am quite  the animal lover. I own 3 dogs,( a beagle puppy, a  yellow lab , and  a golden retriever) 3  cats, and  2 horses, ( a grey Thoroughbred gelding, and  a bay Arabian mare )

Anyway, last night when i was getting ready  for bed, the youngest of  my three dogs kept barking and barking. But i  did not think much of  it,  cause my husband  had just been outside , and  said  there were several deer in the yard. So i figured  she  was  barking at  the deer.

This morning when we went out to feed  the horses  it was  like a  scene out of a Halloween movie.   My gelding was  dripping in blood.  The skin on the one side of his face  was ripped off.   You could literally see  the bone  and muscles  and he had a huge  gapping hole in his  forehead.   How  he was still alive, and  standing, is  amiracle  in itself.   I was literally sick to my stomach at  the  sight.

Thankfully my other horse  was okay.

My husband  and i looked all around, but could not see any animal tracks. But there was blood on the  ground  and  blood on the  walls of the geldings  stall.

We are very careful to keep anything sharp out of  the reach of  the horses. We could  find  nothing in the barn that would  rip a horses  face  like  that.

We  don't  know if he  was  attack by something or  what ?  if  it was an animal  it had  to be  something big, cause my gelding stands at over 17  and  a half  hands  tall. he is  abig  boy.

I also question if it was  some  vicious  prank  by  kids, but we live  on a quiet  street a nd have  never had  any  problems  before.

The  vet came out and did  the  best  she  could stitching    the horse  back up, but    there are some places  were  the   bone and  muscle  are exposed.  She  gave  him a  shot  to ward off infection,  but still she  told us  to keep a close  eye  on him. He  was shivering from the lost of blood. We had  to croos  tie  him,  to keep him from rubbing his  face, and  we are suppose  to hand  fed  and  water him  the  next several  days, and  the  vet will be  back out in a few  days  to check on him.

So for now  it is just a waiting game, and  praying that he  heals  okay, and  no infection sits  in.

it just makes me  sick.  he is  a beautiful animal.   I pray it was  an animal that got him, and  not kids  cause why would  anyone  do  something like that. if it was kids  i'll hang  them by  their  neck. >:( >:(

For now i just pray  that he  heals okay. he is not a young horse.  He is 21, but you would  not know it by looking at him. He is still fiesty and likes  to chase my mare  around. I  wonder if  he  was  protecting  my mare, when he  got  attack.


Anyway, please keep  my poor  horsey  in  your  prayers.  :'( Thanks  ! Never a dull momment lately in  my life  ! ::)
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Shandi on November 03, 2009, 01:57:54 PM
I'm praying...Horse's can be very tough..keep loving him and be there and he will pull through this.
My mare had ear mites and I went to put the ear meds in her she went up and caught the top of the tin on the barn and gouged her face to the bone I could see her teeth at the back of her jaw from eye to nose and she healed up well it was a mess and I had to do hydro therapy on it but she healed with a small scar. Horse's are stronger then we think....
Give him a little molasse's on his feed to keep him interested it worked for her.
keep us posted.
BTW
I'm owned by 8 dogs and 2 horses' :)
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: wyckdblyss on November 03, 2009, 02:02:03 PM
I am keeping you and your horse in my thoughts...sending lots of positive healing energies his and your way honey. *HUGS*
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on November 03, 2009, 02:19:06 PM
Thanks  everyone. :)  So far  Sir  Tempus Pendragon  ( that is  the  gelding's name )  is being a good patient.   He is still pretty doped up  from the pain meds  the vet gave him.  He looks like  a drunken sailor.  So funny to see  this  big tall horse  trying to stand  up  straight. Poor  thing. :(

My other horse, Lady  Jadestar (  the Arabian mare )  can't figure out what is up  with her buddy.

My husband  was  going  to the feed store  tonight to get  some special feed  and  molasses.

I am in better spirits  then i was  earlier, just wish i knew  how it happen to him. I have  been around horses  all my life, and know  horses  can get banged up, and  they can  rub  and  scratch  themselves on stuff in their  stalls,  but We  checked  the  whole inside  of  his stall and  other then blood stains  all over  could  find  nothing  that  would   cause that bad of  wounds.   So it is  a  mystery .


I know  horses  are pretty strong creatures, but there is  alot of  skin and  muscle  expose. plus   he is not a  young horse, even though he  would have  you think otherwise.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Celtic Lady on November 03, 2009, 10:36:24 PM
Amy, I'm so sorry to hear about your gelding. Big hugs and prayers to both of you. I truly hope that people were not the cause of this injury.

I know what you're going through. My gelding had a mysterious wound years ago. The place where he was boarded at was very picky about safety and sharp things were never near the horses stalls, paddocks, or pastures. Anyway, I arrived at the barn for a ride one morning and found a couple of small holes in his side. Never found out what caused them but a few weeks later he started to run a very high fever and had stopped eating and drinking. Of course this had to happen when it was hot and humid out. The vet came out a few times to tube him with water so that he didn't dehydrate. I took a few days off of work to stay with him and take care of him. The antibiotic he was on was so strong that the vet was concerned that he would come down with diarrhea. Because of this the farm owner would give him his medicine in the morning and I would give him 8 oz. of vanilla yogurt to counteract any diarrhea that could have resulted from the meds.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady L on November 03, 2009, 11:38:54 PM
I am so sorry to hear this happened to your horse. I pray he recovers quickly and you find out the cause.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Serenity on November 04, 2009, 09:02:38 AM
As a fellow animal nut (and horse owner), I will definitely keep him in my prayers.  Best of luck for a good recovery.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: renren on November 04, 2009, 09:07:01 AM
Sending healing thoughts and prayers to your horse, and family!

Due to the lack of tracks, I have to ask a question: could it have been a large bird of prey?
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: crazyrennie on November 04, 2009, 09:21:19 AM
Lots of good luck for Sir Tempus Pendragon  and yourself.
Not to disparage renren but I've been working with birds of prey for 12 years and never heard of any raptors being foolish enough to attack a horse. The largest prey that a Steppes Eagle can take is a wolf but the Steppes Eagle is in Mongolia.
Crazy
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on November 04, 2009, 02:32:32 PM
So far Tempus is being a good patient, and has not reopen his  wounds. Knock on wood.   We have him tied up so he can barely move around  in his  stall.  He  was not to happy  , about that  last night  and  kept kicking at his stall.  My husband finally went out around  midnight, and   chatted with him, and he  settled  down.

We have to hand  fed him  and  water him,  which is a pain in the neck, especially on the  cold  mornings, cause it takes  forever  for  a horse  to eat, but  the vet does not want him to be untied at all,   cause knowing Tempus, who loves  to roll in the hay, he  would open his  wounds  right  up.

We continue  to give him antibiotics  and hot compress treatments that the vet ordered in order to ward off infection.


As  for  what caused all of  this it is  still a mystery. Tempus  was  actually  closed in his stall, with the top part of  his  stall door open, so he  could look outside. ( The stalls  open to the outside  for  emergency purposes.)
So  anything  that went after him had  to be tall enough  to reach his  face or  big enough  to  leap at him  or  fly  at  him.

We now  doubt that it was kids cause they would  have had  to climb over  the  corrals  and  gates to get him, and  we would have heard  the  gates rattle , and it it is  abig drop  from the top of  the corrals  to  the  ground.

It could have  been an animal. Cause  an animal  could  easily squeeze  thru  the bottom of  the corral. Then again i guess  a human  could  too if  they wanted too.

There was  a pack of  wild  dogs  wandering  around  for  awhile, but no one  had seen  them in  months.
We  do get  coyotes   often, but they have  never botherd  the horses  before.
We had a bobcat  for  a while  living back in the  woods,but i  don't  think it would  go after  the  horses.

When i told  my dad, he  thought we  should  call  the  animal warden  and  report it, but we are not sure if  it was  a  wild  animal.

I question wheter it was  a bird of prey  cause we have a family of  hawks  in our yard, but i have  never heard of  Hawks , or  birds of  prey  going after a horse.and  like  a said  Tempus  is  a good  size  horse.he is very tall, and   and  has a large  head. Whatever went after him   had  to be  something big, or  something capable  of leaping  at  him.

I  did  find  a nest of baby snapping turtles outside  the  barn a few  weeks  ago, but i  don't think a  snapping turtle  could  go after  a horse.

I question wheter he  got  something on his  face, or  had an allergic  reaction to  something in his  feed, but we feed both horses  the  same  feed, and i have heard of  horses  rubbing themselves  raw, but not bad  enough  to expose  bones  and  muscles. I mean, not to gross  anyone  out here, but the whole one side of his face  was just about gone. it was just all bone  , his  eye and  dangling  muscle. Thank goodness he  did not lose  his  eyesight. He had exposed  skin and bone  and muscle  underneath both ears , above  both eyes,  down one  whole  side of his  face,  down his nose,  ahuge  gash in his  forehead, and the one whole  side of his  face  practically  ripped  off.

With all the  damage  to his  face, and  all the blood in the stall, and on the  ground  outside, something deffinitely  went after him, it is just a matter of  who or  what,  and  we may  never  know. What matters  is that it  does  not come  back again,  and  that Tempus  heals  okay.


Thanks  for  the prayers  and  well wishes  everyone.I felt awkward asking  for  prayers  for  a horse, but he is part of  the family.   He is  our oldest  son, as  my husband  and I  call him.  Matter of  fact if it had not been  for  Tempus  my  husband  and  i  would  not have  met.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: lady serena on November 04, 2009, 06:34:02 PM
Sending prayers and healing thoughts for your horse may he get better.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on November 04, 2009, 08:52:03 PM
 Thanks Lady  Serena  for  your  ren mail you sent me on mountain lions.

Don't worry, you did not scare me  hon. I was already pretty convinced in  my mind  that it had to be a  wild  cat or  a wild  dog, cause Tempus stands  at 17 and  a half hands  tall.   So for  something to get at his  face  while he  was inclosed  in his  stall,it had to have  the capability  like  a large  cat or  dog  to leap  at him.
   We  have  Coy  dogs  ( part coyote-part dog ) that have  been spotted in the  area over  the summer and  i wonder if  they are back  around. I  know  this  is  the  time of year  that adult coyotes  teach  their  young  to  hunt.  I plan on calling  animal  control in the  morning.   In the mean time  the stall doors  are being totally  closed  at night, my dogs  are only allowed out in their play yard, and only with  a human with  them,my cats  are in door  cats  so  don't have  to woory  there,  and  my   young son  has not been allowed out near  the  barn or  woods  at all.


I tell you if it is not something going on with the humans  in the family, it is  something going on with  the pets. never a dull momment !   But that's  life !You never know  what is  going to happen  next.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady L on November 07, 2009, 01:05:22 AM
"Thanks  for  the prayers  and  well wishes  everyone.I felt awkward asking  for  prayers  for  a horse, but he is part of  the family.   He is  our oldest  son, as  my husband  and I  call him."

I just wanted to say that we pray for animals anytime they need it. I called my pastor when my dog was so ill, last summer and requested him to pray for her. She has recovered.

We even have a plaque hanging in the sanctuary at our church, about praying for the animals. My pastor frequently includes the "four-leggeds" in his prayers during the church service. It was one of the deciding factors for me to join there.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Celtic Lady on November 07, 2009, 10:34:50 PM
Amy, how is he doing? Still sending lots of prayers for all of you.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on November 08, 2009, 05:26:41 PM
Tempus is hanging in there. He was not eating or  drinking much at first, but now  he is. His  wounds  still look terrible, and  you can tell it hurts  him.  he  does not like  being tied up all the  time.   We are suppose  to call the  vet  tomorrow  to let her know  how  Tempus  is  doing.

We now  think we know  what  went after him.  One of  my sister's  works  for  an insurance  company, and her job was  to handle  claims   for  large  horse farms  and  diary farms.     When I  told  her what happen to  Tempus,  and  describe  his  wounds  and  where on his  body he  got  attack, she  said  it sounded  like  the  claims  she had been handling  at  work.   She  said  they had several recent  claims made  by horseowners    about  their  horses  being violently  attacked  by  an  animal  called  a "  Fisher ."

Fisher's  like areas  where  there are water  and  brush.   We have  a  large pond in our  yard,  and  a creek  that runs  along  side of it. We live on  8 acres. 3  of  the  acres   is  wooded  and    filled  with deer  and other small wild  life.  Just what a Fisher  needs.

Fisher's look like  a wolverine  .  They have  sharp claws  and  teeth. They  are capable of  climbing  and  jumping and leaping quite  high.They attack  and kill their prey by  going after  their  prey's  faces  and  ripping them apart until they bledd to death.


Anyway, i went on the internet  and printed out some  pictures of a  Fisher.I then showed the pictures  to  my husband  who  said  to  me,"Holy cow Amy, i saw  this animal in our yard last week  when i came  home  form work. It looked  just like  the animal in the picture you are showing me."

So we called the local animal warden and they told us  to call the Department of  Enviromental Control.  we called  them  and  they  told  us  there was nothing  they  could  do  about it. Give  me  a break !  you think they would  be  concern about an animal  going around  attacking  livestock.

So i took  the  picture  i had printed out  and  went a round  my  neighborhood warning all  my  neighbors  that  there was a Fisher  around.  It  turns  out one  of  my neighbors  had  to take  their  dog  to  the  vet cause it had gotten  badly attacked  by an  animal during  the night.

So we talked  to one of our neighbors  who is  a hunter  and  a trapper  and he  was  going to talk  to  some  of  his  buddies  who  also hunt  and  trap  and  see wheter  they  can   catch  the  darn  thing in  a trap,  or shoot it and  kill  it.

So that is  the  latest. In  the  meantime,  the horses  are  completely  closed in, in their barn.  My  dogs  only  go out  during  the  day,  and  on  their  leashes,  and  my  son is only allowed  outside  with  me  or  his  father  cause Fisher's  can  go after  and  kill a  small adult.

So praying  that we  catch the  darn thing  soon.  Also praying  that  the  darn thing  did not have  rabies,  cause that is  all I nedd  for  my horse  to get, cause both Tempus  and  my other horse  are due  for  their  rabies  shots  next month.
The  vet was  actually  going  to vaccinate  them  for  rabies when she  comes  to check tempus  again, atleast that was  the  plan.

So just praying that we catch  the  darn Fisher,  that Tempus  starts  to heal, and  that his  vision remains  okay, and  that he  does not come  down  with rabies, although he  probably  would  be  showing signs  by now  if  he  had.

So that is  the latest  chapter in  the  saga  of my never dull life  ! ::) :P :)
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: lordwriothsley on November 08, 2009, 10:00:24 PM
Amy I just caught this thread late but I am so sorry that that happened to your horse the way it did. I am sending out prayers and positive thoughts to you and your horse for a quick and speedy recovery soon.

God Bless you as always my dear.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Celtic Lady on November 11, 2009, 05:27:32 PM
Any updates for us on either how Tempus is doing or the capture of the vicious varmint that attacked him?
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on November 11, 2009, 05:34:58 PM
No capture of  the varmint yet, although  something  was outside  the night before last, cause we  found  tracks,  and  animal  fur.
Wish we could  catch  the  varmint,   so that i can eventually let  my horses out  again to run  when  Tempus  heals, and  also so i  not have  to worry when i take  my  dogs  out.

As  for Tempus, the  wounds on the  sides of  his face seem  to be healing  but  the big huge  wound on his  forehead is  being stubborn.  It looks  like he  may have  rubbed it open.
  He  continues  to eat,  and  is  drinking more  which is  a good  sign. The vet is  suppsoe  to come  on Saturday to check his  stitches, and  to update  both horses on their  vaccines.
   So, so far the prayers  for  tempus  are doing their  trick ! :)
Now  we  just need  to catch  the  darn varmint. :P :)
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Celtic Lady on November 11, 2009, 05:43:03 PM
Good to hear he's doing better. ;D Have your hunter neighbors set any traps for it or something?
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Betty Munro on November 12, 2009, 12:57:29 PM
Prayers for his healing continue!
It could take months for a large wound to completely heal.  Be patient and persistant.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on November 12, 2009, 02:00:19 PM
Quote from: Celtic Lady on November 11, 2009, 05:43:03 PM
Good to hear he's doing better. ;D Have your hunter neighbors set any traps for it or something?

Not yet !  I know  there was something about  that there were only certain times of  the year when you could legally trap  varmint like  creatures..but then  again  I would think  we would be in our legal  rights to trap  an animal  who was  attacking our horses.

We let my mare out  for  abit to run yesterday, with my husband  and i both standing guard.  She  was happy  to get out and  kick up her heels.  She  could not understand  why her big  brother could not come  out, but we nedd his  wounds to heal  first.

I think the one on his forehead is  going to take  a while  to heal.   It is  funny the  way the  skin was  torn on his  forehead.It was pulled upward instead of  downward. Almost like  something reached down  from above  Tempu's  head  and  grabbed him.  We know  that Fisher's  can  climb,  so we are wondering if  the  darn  thing  climbed onto  the  roof of  the   barn  and  reached  down and  attacked  Tempus.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on November 16, 2009, 03:42:21 PM
Latest update :

The Good news  and  the  bad news:
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We think the varmint  may  have wandered on away from here. There have bben several herds of  deer grazing , and sleeping in our back yard the last ffew nights, and  we don't tink they would  be sleeping out in the open if  there was  a predator  on the prowl.

Have not seen my neighbor  around  who hunts  or  traps  to talk  him.

We still continue  to keep the horses  closed in the barn at night.

And now  the bad news :

The vet was out this weekend  to give  the horses  their yearly vaccines.  While  she  was here she  checked  Tempus's  wounds.  When she  went  to remove  the bandages,  we found  to our  dismay  that Tempus  was not healing as wella nd  quickly as  he  should  be.   The skin and  tissue  around  a few of  the  wounds  was dead  and  dying and infection  had settled in.
And  then the  two big major deep wounds on his  forehead and  face  were full of  foul smelling pus.


So despite  the antibiotics, and  warm compresses  and other daily treatments infection has settled in. So  the vet applied  some  type of  antibitotic  to each of  the  wounds  and  then  rebandaged  all the  wounds  back up,  and  gave  us  some  stronger antibiotics  to give  Tempus, and  she  will check gain  in  afew  days.

So we shall see how  things  go.

Tempus is being a good patient, despite  evrything  going on. I know he  does not like  being tyed up all the  time, but he  does  like  the  extra  treats  and  the  warm hot compresses  he  gets, not to mention the  extra attention.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: renren on November 16, 2009, 05:46:47 PM
Sending him healing thoughts, Amy.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: irish on November 17, 2009, 07:46:35 PM
Oh No! Poor baby!
I hope all turns out well.
Hugs to you Amy and to your huge baby!!!!!
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: lordwriothsley on November 20, 2009, 09:24:39 AM
I will continue to keep Tempus in my thoughts and prayers Amy.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Sir William Marcus on November 20, 2009, 10:54:36 AM
OMG, what a mystery as to what could have inflicted this damage to your horse. In my experience a fisher seems very unlikely, a wolverine perhaps, a fishers no.  Unless there are cougars in the area, and at 17 1/2 hands tall I would bet these damages were produced by a person or persons.


Regardless, Thoughts & Prayers sent and I sincerely hope the culprit or culprits are soon discovered and Tempus recovers from his wounds.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Betty Munro on November 20, 2009, 04:24:03 PM
Positive energy, prayers and good thoughts coming your way for Tempus, and for you to keep up the energy to nurse him.
Keep us posted on his progress.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Celtic Lady on November 20, 2009, 05:44:48 PM
I'm hope Tempus is doing better. He is still in my prayers as always you are.
Anyway, I was remembering whenever one of our cats had a wound we always used tea bags as compresses for the wound. One of our vets recommended it instead of oinment and such. She said clean it up (the wound), make yourself a cup of tea, and while holding the cat and enjoying the tea put the tea bag on the wound. She said to do that a couple times a day. The tannic acid in the tea leaves was very good for healing wounds without infection.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on November 24, 2009, 03:07:01 PM
Have not  seen any varmits  or  criiteers  around  lately in the  yard,  other then deer, and  rabbits.  So hopefully  the  varmit or  critter  that attacked tempus  has taken a  hike.
  It could  have  been  done  by humans, but i  doubt it, caus e we live  in   very  quiet neighborhhood.
  So it is  stilla mystery  as  to  who, or  what attacked Tempus, and  i  do  think we may  never know  for  sure.



As  for  Tempus,  the  vet was out on saturday.   His  smaller wound  s  are starting  to heal, but   the great big  wounds  aare still gooshy  and  mushy.  I  still can't belive  the  damage    done  to   this horse's  face.
There was till some pus  in a few of  the  wounds, but despite  that fact,  the  vet  decided  to take  tempus  off of  the  antibiotics  and  see how  he  does  off of  them.

Tempus  is getting very agitated  being tied up his  stall.  My husband untied him yesterday  and handwalked  him for  afew  minutes.
But until his  wounds heal, we can't chance him rubbing his  face  and  reopening  them.

So  the small wounds  are starting to heal, now  we just have  to keep  our  fingers crosedd that the big, nasty and  worse  wounds  start to heal.  the vet cut off  alot of  dead  skin on Tempus's  face  on saturday. Poor baby ! :(
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Capt. Morgan on November 24, 2009, 03:48:06 PM
Tho' I love horses, I am certainly not a "horsey" person so you may already know about this product...but I thought it sounded interesting...

http://equinewoundsalve.com/

Sending lots of healing energy to Tempus!
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: lordwriothsley on November 24, 2009, 04:28:42 PM
Amy just knowing the fact that Tempus is starting to make progress is a big chip off mine, yours, and everyone elses shoulder that has been pulling for you through this.

He is still in my thoughts and prayers at this very moment.

Hugs and love to you as always my dear.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Betty Munro on November 24, 2009, 04:43:28 PM
Sounds like there is progress.  Big wounds take big time (to heal).  Sending more positive energy your way for continued healing.  Sounds as if the wounds are not in the way of the halter?  Anyway, keep up the handwalking.  Tempus has to keep up his spirits to continue to heal.  It has got to be tough to be tied up all the time.  Even if they are used to being in a stall, it must be hard for him.
Persevere.  Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on November 24, 2009, 06:26:55 PM
Thanks everyone.  yes, it is  nice  to see some  progress being made. now we just have  to wait  for  the major  wounds  to start healing over, which will take  time.
Poor tempus, he  wants  so much to get out and  run  and roll.   My luck,  and knowing the  winters  we get here, by the  time he  ehals  and is ready to go out again, we probably have  2 feet of  snow  on  the  ground !

  Betty..  he  does not have a  nylon halter on  right now, just a simple  slip knot, rope  tied halter .

Capt Morgan... I am using something similar  to  that wound  salve.  You spary it on and makes a protective  barrier.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on December 01, 2009, 02:14:10 PM
Well, last week, it looked like we were finally making some  progress in the  healing process.   Along with the small gashes,  the huge  deep,  wounds  and  gashes  were starting  to try heal.

But  then on Thanksgiving :

Tempus was getting agitated  from being tied up, so he  was refusing  to eat  and  drink.   He  always  has  been  a very stubborn horse. Anyway my husband  was  concern  about Tempus not eating or  drinking,  so  my husband  untied  Tempus.
  Tempus  was behaving  and   being a good boy.  He  ate and  drank. My husband  decided  since  Tempus  was  behaving  to give him atreat and leave him untied  for  abit.

  Well, we got busy  with Thanksgiving  dinner,  and i did  not know  that Tempus  was left untied, and  my husband  just plainly  forgot  with evrything else  going on.

Well, the  darn horse went and  rubbed his face  and head and opened  the major, big nasty wounds  back up.

So he is back  to being tied up, and now it is going to take  even longer to heal.  He has a big bump on his  forehead. He  does not like  being tied up at all.  he has been kicking his  stall door like crazy, but i can't keep having him open his  wounds  up. Not unless he  wants  to pay  for  the  vet bills ! :P :)
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on December 07, 2009, 02:38:58 PM
Well  Sir Tempus  is  being a trouble  maker.   After he  rubbed  his stitches open on Thanksgiving, we went back to having  him tied up,  which  he  hated.
But it was  working.  Things  looked like  they were finally  going  to strat healing over.   But  then what  does that darn  horse  do.    He managed  to figure out how  to pull  hard enough  to break   the  cross  tie  ropes(  and  thes  were  strong  , sturdy  ropes  too  ) and  free  himself  and  rub  open  his  stitches  again.  Ugh   !!!  That  horse   !  >:( :P  So  back  to square one  again  !
  Horses..you got  to love  them  to have  them...cause  they can drive  you crazy  at  times.  :)
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: irish on December 07, 2009, 07:59:00 PM
An idea......what about putting one of those cone things around his neck, until he heals?  ??? {Or maybe find something to pad the fence where he likes to rub..maybe sheep skin padding?}
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Celtic Lady on December 07, 2009, 10:46:25 PM
Amy, i'm sure you probably know this already but if you put some rubber such as bicycle inner tubes around the posts of the stall walls and attach the crossties to them he should only be able to stretch until his but touches the wall.
Not sure if a neck cradle would keep him from rubbing his face as it only keeps his neck from bending from side to side and from being able to flex his neck so that he can touch his chest.
I hope he's doing better.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Manwariel on December 29, 2009, 10:04:45 PM
Oh, poor horse! I'll be praying for him.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on December 29, 2009, 10:53:42 PM
Tempus's  one  side of his  face is doing better, but  the  other side is  still a nasty, mushy  mess.  It is  still all bone  and  dead tissue.  The  vet  came  out  last  week, and  was  all  concern about one of  the  wounds  over  his  one  eye.  She  was afraid  he  might have lost his  vision in the  one  eye, but  knock on  wood  it was  not  the  case.   His  two  major gashes on his  forehead  when she   removed  the  bandages  were  mushy   and  when she  removed  some  dead tissue  there was  alot of  pus   ,  so he is  back on atibiotics  and  hot  compress  treatments. 
  I feel  so sorry  for him,cause  he   is  starting  to get  tired of  being  tied up. 
   Thank goodness I  either  have   neighbors  who are  sound sleepers,  or  who are very patient  and  understanding,  cause Tempus  is outside  in  the  barn every night  kicking  and  banging at  his  stall  door.  The  vet says  he  needs  to  be  tied  up still  atleast  thru  the  end  of  January.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Betty Munro on December 30, 2009, 11:51:55 PM
Healing energies continuing for Tempus!
Not sure if this has already been suggested ... would a  mild sedative help?  Like valium for horses?  Does such a thing exist?
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on December 31, 2009, 10:36:50 AM
Thanks Betty. He was on mild sedatives  for  the  first week he was injured, but then the vet took him off of  them, because he was getting so tipsy, and he is a very tall horse, and she  did not want him falling and  breaking a leg.  Although last night we was ready to give  Tempus  a sedative.We were out cleaning stalls  and  we untied Tempus  so that  we could  walk him a bit,  and  all he wanted  to do is rear and buck up in his  stall,  and lets just say it is not fun to be cornered in a stall  with a huge rearing up horse. And then since he was acting up, my other horse decided to join in the games  and act up too.  But call me  crazy, but I still love  them anywway ! :) 
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Betty Munro on December 31, 2009, 02:12:17 PM
Oh my, that sounds very scary!  I vote for mild sedative.  Maybe a half dose of what he was on before.  Not enough to make him unsteady on his feet, just enough to take the edge off.  Glad you didn't get hurt!
Prayers continue for the both of you!
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: lordwriothsley on January 10, 2010, 03:24:52 PM
Amy,
You, Tim, and the horses still remain in my thoughts and prayers. Please do continue to keep us updated on his progress and how he is doing.

Love ya as always my dear.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on January 11, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
Thanks  all. Tempus is  healing slowly.  Slow  but sure.  He is  still tied up, which  drives him crazy, and he lets  you know  he is not happy.  When  you  go  to feed him, he  sends his  feed bucket  flying at  you ! ::)
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Betty Munro on January 11, 2010, 07:23:03 PM
I know he's healing from really bad cuts, but would it be possible to still ride him?  That might give him something to focus on ... if the halter isn't in the way of the wounds, then maybe?  Or just keep taking him for as many walks as you can?
All we can do from here is brainstorm and keep praying for his healing!
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on January 11, 2010, 09:24:22 PM
He has not been ridden for about five years cause he had a nerve disorder  that affected his  back.   
He gets hand walked every day. Yesterday  we gave him a treat and let him, and  my mare  run around  together  for  a few  minutes in the  snow. 
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Betty Munro on January 12, 2010, 01:20:42 PM
That's too bad ... I'll bet he misses it, but I understand about the body just not able when the mind is willing.
Keep up the hand walking.  (I know you will, just cheering you on!)  :) 
More prayers for healing and perseverence coming your way!
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Manwariel on January 31, 2010, 07:40:27 PM
How's he doing?
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on February 01, 2010, 01:43:10 PM
Well up tell this  weekend  I  would  say he  was  aabout 8o%  healed. He  still had a few  small wounds  that were still mushy.   

The biggest concern was  that he  was getting agitated  being in his  stall  all  the  time and   refusing to eat lately ,  and  dropping weight  like  crazy , despite  evrything we  were giving him to keep  the  weight on him.   So my husband  was  concerned about him not eating,  and  decided  to  be  nice  to him and  let him  go  loose  for  abit outside in his  corral.  Tempus seemed  to be  behaving himself. he  was running aound in the  snow  enjoying himself,  so my husband  left him unattended  in his  corral and  went  to clean his  stall.

Well Tempus, that  trouble  maker, either he  had a itch or  something,  found  something to  rub his  face on   and reopend a  couple of  wounds.    They are not as bad  as  when  it  first happen  months ago, but  it looks like  he  will be  tied  up a for  a few  more weeks, until   the  wounds  are COMPLETELY HEALED  ,  this  time.  ::)
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Betty Munro on February 01, 2010, 04:59:51 PM
Sorry about the setback, but glad to hear he is continuing to heal.  It amazes me that they will scratch open a wound, but that is animals for you.

Prayers continue, and do keep us posted.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Manwariel on February 17, 2010, 11:55:42 AM
Update?
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on February 17, 2010, 01:30:12 PM
He is healing . :)  His wounds are all scabbed over.   We let him out last night for a few minutes to romp around in the snow  with his sister and he seemed  to enjoy that. Then we put him back in his stall, and cross tied him  back up, cause we don't want him knocking the scabs off like he has done before, cause we love him dearly, but my husband is getting tired of hand feeding him and hand walking him, evry few hours.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: lordwriothsley on February 24, 2010, 06:54:41 AM
Amy I'm glad to hear that Tempus is continuing to heal but sorry to hear about his recent setback. Prayers continue to come his way and please continue to keep us updated on his progress.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on February 24, 2010, 04:16:16 PM
Thanks Lord W.

Yes, unfortunately he  was just about healed, and he went  and  tore open his  wounds .  They are pretty infected.    He looks terrible.    My poor husband is  starting to feel fustrated, cause   it just seems  to be one  endless cycle.   Every time   Tempus starts  to heal,  despite  every precautionary measure  we take, and  every medicine   we use, and every anti itch product, etc...  the  horse  finds  a way  to reopen his  wounds.
 
I had a couple   friends, including friends  who are horse  owners  tell me  Tempus  can't go on like  this  and that maybe  we  should  put  him down. I have been there before with a horse  my family use  to have  and  really don't want  to  go  that  route  again. It has  to be  my husband Tim 's  decision  to what he    to do.    Tempus  belongs  to him.  (  The  mare  belongs  to me.  ) 

Tempus has been a good horse.  I hate  to see him suffer.  I know  my  mare will miss him if  anything happens  to him.   She  was just a baby when i got her, and we already had Tempus.   Tempus  was like her big protective  older brother.

So if  anything I  would  ask  that you pray that  Tim  makes  the  right decision on what to do with Tempus.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: lordwriothsley on February 24, 2010, 07:57:13 PM
Consider it done Amy. Prayers are being sent yours and Tim's way both.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Celtic Lady on May 10, 2010, 06:24:24 PM
Amy, do you have an update on Tempus? We haven't heard anything about him in awhile.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on May 11, 2010, 12:35:01 AM
Tempus is still around. We came very close back in March to putting him down, after the dear, sweet, darn horse ( he  always  was  a trouble  maker ) went and rubbed open quite a few of his wounds causing  some of  them to get infected.  But he has been part of  the family  for  so long, we decided  to give him one  more  chance.
So needless to say we were  back  to square one again, and he went back  to being tied up in his  stall  when we cant keep an eye on him. We only let him out into his corral when we are around  to watch  him. H e is not too crazy  about that and lets us know by  kicking his  stall door  at night.  I swear, he knows  that the barn is within 20 feet of our bedroom window  and  does it on purpose  to get even with us !
  He is about 90 percent healed down.  He will always have scars and a great big bump on his  forehead. Now w e just nedd to put weight back on him. he is very skinny.
  Sorry i did not update sooner.  So far he is hanging in there.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Celtic Lady on May 11, 2010, 06:49:06 PM
so glad to hear he is improving. hopefully he will be completely healed soon so he can enjoy his freedom from the cross-ties.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: lordwriothsley on May 12, 2010, 07:55:13 AM
Thanks for the update on Tempus Amy. I'm glad to hear that he is improving though.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Manwariel on May 12, 2010, 01:38:51 PM
Good to hear he's doing better!
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Lady Amy of York on May 12, 2010, 03:39:13 PM
Thanks  everyone. I am hoping  that eventually he  will behave  himself  and  not go opening any  wounds,  so that we can  turn him out  this  summer   to graze outside  with his sister.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse-an update ..he passed away
Post by: Lady Amy of York on April 28, 2011, 01:13:27 AM
An Update :

just wanted to let everyone  who had prayed for Tempus that  with deep sadness Tempus passed away in late Febuary. It was a shock to us all.  We went out to the barn to feed him one morning and he was gone.
He was never the same after being attacked  and  wounded and the vets figures his body just could not fight anymore.
  He is truely missed. My other horse still continues to look for her buddy.
:( :(   
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Becky10 on April 28, 2011, 01:15:57 AM
Aw, I am so very sorry for your loss Lady Amy  :'(
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: irish on April 28, 2011, 02:18:22 PM
Awwwwwwwwww.......... :'(
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: lordwriothsley on April 28, 2011, 04:30:23 PM
Amy as I have told you before I am so very sorry to hear of Tempus's death. Please know you that you and yours will always be in my thoughts and prayers.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: Xantrawler on May 01, 2011, 07:55:22 AM
Lady Amy I am so sorry. My prayers are with you.
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: C Dragonworks on May 02, 2011, 08:17:45 PM
One thing about horses they can lose a large amount of blood and do OK... And they heal well if you keep it clean. I have sewn eyelids back on,legs up and all sorts of odd things and they heal fairly fast and well... Blessing on your beast that he may heal up fast and be himself again!!!!  OH and they are talented... TBs can find a needle in a haystack and do damage with it... Arabs are much less accident prone...ask how I know!!!!!  Blessings Cat
Title: Re: Prayers for my horse
Post by: crazyrennie on May 26, 2011, 12:21:32 PM
Truly saddened to hear of your loss-
Crazy