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Title: makeup tips please??
Post by: Auryn on August 20, 2011, 03:32:24 PM
With so many theater people I am sure someone can provide some tips.
What would I use to get the look of soot on my face??
Obviously it would have to be something non toxic and that can last a good 6-8 hours and look convincingly like charcoal soot.
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: LAVAGODDESSSS on August 20, 2011, 03:42:31 PM
You have to just go and grab a black eyeshadow (one of the cheapy ones from the drugstore). Apply it with your fingers and/or a q-tip and have a tissue ready.

Just make sure it isn't sparkly. Use the blackest you can find, I got mine for a dollar and I think the brand was NYC. Any would work. Just make sure you aren't wearing too much (or non-absorbed) lotion beneath. You can make it stay longer by setting it with a loose translucent powder.

But last time I used it I had a friend who was going as a tinkerer for her garb, I had to make it look like she was all sooty, etc. I even used it on her arms and things, just be careful not to touch it to your clothes too much. :)



I hope this helps! Just have fun and play with it. I use the tissue a lot to smudge it. I use one of my eyeshadow brushes too sometimes to make certain effects.

I hope this helps!
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Adriana Rose on August 20, 2011, 04:52:59 PM
Id say get the black eyshadow and crush it into a powder and apply it likw Lava said. Make shure to get your eyliner fairly dark too if you look at photos of firefighters( fresh from a fire not the Hunky calender version),coalminers ect. they all look like they have eyeliner on
( my brother in law is a coal miner and he gets irritated that he looks like he is wearing makeup lol)
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Auryn on August 20, 2011, 06:47:39 PM
Hehehe thats funny about your brother in law Adriana
hehe
do you think i need to do the eyeliner look even if im theoretically wearing goggles- going for the dramatic lots of soot around the eye area and really clean behind the goggles

thanks for the tips,
guess ill hit up cvs tomorrow ;)
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: LAVAGODDESSSS on August 20, 2011, 06:53:07 PM
You are wearing goggles, so I'd say no to the eyeliner. Your eye area behind the goggles is going to be very clean. It's funny to see when they taket he goggles off too, especially if you did it around your goggles (the black). It's one of my fav looks, the goggles on the head, smudges around where the goggles were. What is your char? ?? And what did you do to make things go boom? lol.

the only thing I'd say about crushing it up, is that it is messy and I'm not sure if it is totally necessary,though it'll depend on what you are comfortable with! I'm sure it will work, just remember, it is MESSY. I'm pretty sure you'll get the same effect by just using it out of the little pot. Though, if you want to, you can take a small bit (with your fingernail, etc) and crush it against your skin. I do remember doing that, it helped make bigger 'pieces' and smudges on my friend's skin.
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Auryn on August 20, 2011, 07:31:07 PM
what if i get the pigment eye shadow that comes in powder form in the little pots?

any reccomendations for the translucent powder?? Ive managed to make it to almost 30 years old without wearing foundation/powder type makeup
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Lady Renee Buchanan on August 20, 2011, 08:05:42 PM
If you take a wine bottle cork and burn the end of it, you get a black soot that you can rub on your face.  I've used it many times at Halloween for me and also for my kids when they were growing up, as part of a hobo costume.

The good thing about it is that you can keep a clean cork in your pocket with a book of matches or a lighter, and if you've accidently wiped it off, you can do a touch up in a minute or so.
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Adriana Rose on August 20, 2011, 09:07:19 PM
Ooh you could take and LOAD up a blush brush and go over the goggles while they are on, then when you take them off there is a line I saw a girl at faire that did that for her steampunk costume it looked great! She had short hair and she shmooed it back to look blown back it was a good effect.
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: LAVAGODDESSSS on August 20, 2011, 10:40:56 PM
Quote from: Auryn on August 20, 2011, 07:31:07 PM
what if i get the pigment eye shadow that comes in powder form in the little pots?

any reccomendations for the translucent powder?? Ive managed to make it to almost 30 years old without wearing foundation/powder type makeup

That would work. I've used both, and I like the stuff that isn't loose powder, because loose powder, especially in dark colors is SO damn messy. But it is totally totally up to you.

As for translucent? You are only using it sparingly over your smudgies...so the same brand you are using for this should have it. Otherwise, it is an optional step, actually. I used it on one girl and not on another.

I don't wear foundation either, but I do use a bit of transluscent if I go all out to make it stay a bit. But the good thing about transluscent powder as well is you can use it to tone it down (Say you go overboard or too dark).

I say, skip the translucent . Make sure to have something with you to touch up, even if it's a few qtips in a plastic baggie that has been rubbed in the black shadow. If you can. Again, optional, but it'll help (not sure how hot it is where you are).
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: isabelladangelo on August 21, 2011, 02:21:52 PM
Is there a reason you couldn't use real soot?  Ie, from firewood?  No matter what, you'll have to reapply/check any type of make up around each hour to make sure it hasn't rubbed off.  We tend to touch our faces a lot without realizing it.   Ash from a campfire (or any firewood based fire) is what is used to help gardens and even get rid of odors (like on pets!  It's a great way to get that horrible smell out of your pet's fur before giving him or her a bath).  It's used to even make soap so there's typically nothing *in* the ash that would be problematic.   
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: LAVAGODDESSSS on August 21, 2011, 05:22:01 PM
Quote from: isabelladangelo on August 21, 2011, 02:21:52 PM
Is there a reason you couldn't use real soot?  Ie, from firewood?  No matter what, you'll have to reapply/check any type of make up around each hour to make sure it hasn't rubbed off.  We tend to touch our faces a lot without realizing it.   Ash from a campfire (or any firewood based fire) is what is used to help gardens and even get rid of odors (like on pets!  It's a great way to get that horrible smell out of your pet's fur before giving him or her a bath).  It's used to even make soap so there's typically nothing *in* the ash that would be problematic.   

We originally tried that, when my friend did her look. But it was really...messy. It didn't stay where we put it. When she would sweat it would run awful. And if it got in her eyes she pretty much was done for the day. The makeup stayed really well, we had more control over it, and it didn't irritate her eyes.

I don't see why not, but I know we had a bad experience with it. Though it is a great idea to go straight to the source. :)
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: LAVAGODDESSSS on August 23, 2011, 03:01:40 PM
How'd it go? :D
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Auryn on August 23, 2011, 03:41:23 PM
well..... real soot is a no go- it doesnt look 'sooty' enough- hehe ya I know, plus it came off really easily.
I tried a cheap little $1 smoky black eye shadow that I got at target- worked like a charm, I kept it on for about 4 hrs and it didnt go anywhere- I will definitely have to put some kind of makeup sealer/fixative on my skin though because if you touch it it does come off (but it doest look like it on my face- its weird).

Next step is figuring out yellow- im going to try yellow eye shadow tonight.
ill post pics soon
thank you all
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: LAVAGODDESSSS on August 23, 2011, 07:14:59 PM
Quote from: Auryn on August 23, 2011, 03:41:23 PM
well..... real soot is a no go- it doesnt look 'sooty' enough- hehe ya I know, plus it came off really easily.
I tried a cheap little $1 smoky black eye shadow that I got at target- worked like a charm, I kept it on for about 4 hrs and it didnt go anywhere- I will definitely have to put some kind of makeup sealer/fixative on my skin though because if you touch it it does come off (but it doest look like it on my face- its weird).

Next step is figuring out yellow- im going to try yellow eye shadow tonight.
ill post pics soon
thank you all

You don't know until you try. We had the same experience. Soot comes off. The cheapo black makeup was our best bet.

I can actually give you a tip on something that'll help make it stay. Do you have a Sephora nearby? (They are sometimes in a JCPenney). Get this stuff (just make sure you cover your hair before you spray it. I LOVE this stuff. I don't wear makeup a lot, but when I do, it is always freaking hot out or I need to wear it for hours. This stuff sets it like it is no one's business.  They have a 11 dollar travel version, or you can order it from sephora.com. This is the spray:

http://www.sephora.com/browse/product.jhtml?id=P263504&categoryId=B70

BUT if you DO order from Sephora online, let me give you a tip. Go through ebates (Iv'e been using them for a LONG time. You get a percentage back of each purchase, and a five dollar gift card for signing up. They don't need any info but your address to send you a check a few times a year. It works with tons of online retailers AND they show you coupon codes. You just go through the website to buy. No catch, it's awesome. I've used it for about three years now, and I"ve made over 280 dollars back, from walmart, kohls, etc.)

If yo use this link, we both get money for me referring you:

http://www.ebates.com/rf.do?referrerid=6zs9n%2BTI2yOhdoIwphN5GQ%3D%3D

Right now you can get a ton of free samples with your order, etc.

Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: arbcoind on August 30, 2011, 09:01:27 AM
I ordered and received the All Nighter Long Lasting Makeup Setting Spray.  I applied 2 coats this morning (6:00 am) after applying my makeup.

I have very oily skin and usually by this time of day (10:00 am) it starts to show through my powder foundation.  Not today.  My face feels different but in a good way.  Almost like it's a little firmer.

Anyway, the true test will be on Saturday at faire.

Gina
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Auryn on August 30, 2011, 09:31:22 AM
Thanks for the tip on the spray.
Do you know if they sell it at the sephora counters in JCPenny??
The closest Sephora to me is 35 min each way and I don't have the physical time to go and come back.
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: arbcoind on August 30, 2011, 11:04:14 AM
Auryn,

I purchased from Amazon, so I don't know if it's available at JC Penny.  Lunch time and still no shine.  I usually blot my face right about now!

Gina
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Bonny Pearl on August 30, 2011, 11:34:48 AM
Oh the Urban Decay's All Nighter is awesome!  I use it a lot, especially at faire b/c it is usually very warm/hot and humid.  You can order it online from Sephora or go to drugstoredotcom and you will see they have beautydotcom as a second shop and order from there.
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Auryn on August 30, 2011, 12:04:32 PM
I just called our local jcpenny- they have a sephora section in the store- confirmed they do have it, even have the small travel size.
I will pick it up tonight.
This weekend I will really put it to the test- 10+ hours in make up at DragonCon in Atlanta heat.
I will let you know how it goes.

thanks for the tip.
I rarely wear makeup so its nice to find out from  people with experience
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Elennare on August 30, 2011, 12:19:30 PM
The spray sounds cool, I'll have to check that out.

I've always used baby powder to set my makeup when I needed to, and that works great.  You just have to put LOTS of it on, and then brush off the extra.  Make sure any liquid/wet makeup is dry first, though, or you get a smeary, white-ish mess.

(Funny story about this: I finally learned the intended purpose of baby powder a couple weeks ago when my mom watched me change by little boy's diaper and asked me why I hadn't powdered him.  I honestly didn't know what you were supposed to do with it, as I'd only used it for setting make up!  ;D)

In a pinch, I've also used loose powder foundation.  Which, by the way, works awesomely if you need to make a liquid-eyeliner "tattoo" look more like it's actually a tattoo. ;)
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: arbcoind on August 30, 2011, 12:22:55 PM
Auryn,

Yes, please report back on your experience.  If this stuff can last through hours and heat, I'm hooked!


Gina
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Auryn on August 30, 2011, 12:28:01 PM
Elennare
please elaborate
Quoteif you need to make a liquid-eyeliner "tattoo" look more like it's actually a tattoo.
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: captmarga on August 30, 2011, 01:55:09 PM
wash face.  Apply super-thin layer of milk of magnesia.  Let dry.  Apply foundation and powder.  Use Make Up Forever (only available at Sephora, not at Ulta) on a brush. 

Marga
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Auryn on August 30, 2011, 02:49:21 PM
thanks for the reminder captmarga- totally forgot about the milk of magnesia
Can I use it on the eyelids or just stick to regular eyeshadow primer for that??
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Marietta Graziella on August 31, 2011, 08:53:00 AM
Trish and I used the Milk of Magnesia while in Colorado for faire in the mountains. Works like a charm!  Remember, a light coating! If you see white, brush it off a bit.

I've not used it on my eyes since I have another product to keep eye shadow looking good all day.

Can't wait to hear (and see pics!) Auryn.
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Elennare on August 31, 2011, 11:59:46 AM
Quote from: Auryn on August 30, 2011, 12:28:01 PM
Elennare
please elaborate
Quoteif you need to make a liquid-eyeliner "tattoo" look more like it's actually a tattoo.

If you draw the "tattoo" on with liquid eyeliner, and then powder it with foundation (after it's dry!), rather than translucent powder, the eyeliner picks up a bit of the skin tone over the tattoo color, and the edges blend a bit (texture, not color).  Gives a bit more of an "ink under skin" look, as opposed to "drawn on top."
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: LAVAGODDESSSS on August 31, 2011, 04:58:12 PM
I'm SO glad people love that all nighter stuff.

If you ordered online, I hope you went through ebates for the coupons and the discounts/cash back.


If you use this: http://www.ebates.com/rf.do?referrerid=6zs9n%2BTI2yOhdoIwphN5GQ%3D%3D

we both get a bonus, a gift card, etc.

But that's just a side benefit, I just hope this works for you. I love the stuff, just please be SURE you don't get it on your hair. I just throw a towel lightly over (or a washcloth) at the forehead, and I'm fine.
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Lady Rebecca on September 01, 2011, 03:42:41 AM
What are you talking about when you say milk of magnesia? I did a quick google search and I came up with a liquid laxative medication.
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Ms Trish on September 01, 2011, 06:50:37 AM
Quote from: Lady Rebecca on September 01, 2011, 03:42:41 AM
What are you talking about when you say milk of magnesia? I did a quick google search and I came up with a liquid laxative medication.

And that's what we're talking about! Can you say 'multi purpose product??'  :)  It does work really well.
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: DonaCatalina on September 01, 2011, 11:16:05 AM
Quote from: Ms Trish on September 01, 2011, 06:50:37 AM
Quote from: Lady Rebecca on September 01, 2011, 03:42:41 AM
What are you talking about when you say milk of magnesia? I did a quick google search and I came up with a liquid laxative medication.

And that's what we're talking about! Can you say 'multi purpose product??'  :)  It does work really well.

Yes, I use it also. And it is easier to apply with cotton makeup pads. (http://www.amazon.com/Cotton-Clouds-220s-Rainbow-Cosmetic/dp/B0009QZYWO)
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: gem on September 01, 2011, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: Ms Trish on September 01, 2011, 06:50:37 AM
Quote from: Lady Rebecca on September 01, 2011, 03:42:41 AM
What are you talking about when you say milk of magnesia? I did a quick google search and I came up with a liquid laxative medication.

And that's what we're talking about! Can you say 'multi purpose product??'  :)  It does work really well.

But what does it do, I think she's asking? Do you use it as a primer, basically?
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Sitara on September 01, 2011, 11:49:56 AM
Indeed. It makes a good primer as does Monistat Anti-Chafing Gel (unscented).
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Ms Trish on September 01, 2011, 11:52:34 AM
Quote from: gem on September 01, 2011, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: Ms Trish on September 01, 2011, 06:50:37 AM
Quote from: Lady Rebecca on September 01, 2011, 03:42:41 AM
What are you talking about when you say milk of magnesia? I did a quick google search and I came up with a liquid laxative medication.

And that's what we're talking about! Can you say 'multi purpose product??'  :)  It does work really well.

Yes as a primer. On top of moisturizer, on top of sunscreen, below makeup. Allow layers to set in between. Not a rapid process! I use cotton balls but I think the aforementioned cotton pad tip would work better. Basically it helps keep the makeup from 'melting' off your face.

But what does it do, I think she's asking? Do you use it as a primer, basically?
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: gem on September 01, 2011, 12:35:15 PM
Quote from: Sitara on September 01, 2011, 11:49:56 AM
Indeed. It makes a good primer as does Monistat Anti-Chafing Gel (unscented).

Makes you wonder how people come up with these solutions, doesn't it?!  :-\
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Adriana Rose on September 01, 2011, 05:12:42 PM
haha there is a reason lol.

For me it would be grabbing the wrong darn tube of cream.
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: gem on September 01, 2011, 06:33:55 PM
I've done that while reaching for toothpaste. Happily, I noticed the error in time.  :D
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: isabelladangelo on September 01, 2011, 07:34:34 PM
Quote from: gem on September 01, 2011, 06:33:55 PM
I've done that while reaching for toothpaste. Happily, I noticed the error in time.  :D

...Actually, the white paste type of toothpaste (aka, not the gel) is great if you have a breakout.  Wash your face first and pat dry.  Then put the toothpaste on the breakout area.  Leave it on for at least a minute then wash it off.  Do this before you go to bed and the breakout will be diminished if not gone by the time you wake up. 
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Auryn on September 05, 2011, 06:41:46 PM
I wanted to come back and make sure I said thank you to everyone and to show the results of my makeup enquiry.

Firstly, to anyone who doesn't have it, that Urban Decay's All Nighter makeup fixing spray is freaking amazing. I forgot to do the milk of magnesia so I cleaned my face, put on makeup primer, did my makeup and then a couple of coats of the fixing spray, and my makeup didn't go anywhere. I am talking about 95o atlanta heat plus humidity plus walking up and down steep side walks  and on saturday standing in the sun for 45 minutes waiting for the parade to start plus all the parade walking.
I was dripping sweat down my face and my makeup didn't go anywhere.
When i was ready to take the makeup off- one wipe of a makeup remover wipe and it came right off. I swear by this stuff now.

Anyway
enough babbling.
here are pictures of the makeup

(http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l487/AurynsLair/DragonCon%202011/DSC00173.jpg)

(http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l487/AurynsLair/DragonCon%202011/DSC00126.jpg)
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: arbcoind on September 06, 2011, 08:04:50 AM
Auryn,

I'm glad the All Nighter worked for you.  It is amazing stuff!  Your make up looks great.

Gina
Title: Re: makeup tips please??
Post by: Lady Catharine on September 06, 2011, 10:00:54 AM
Fantastic!