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Title: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on March 16, 2009, 04:22:52 PM
Good day my friends,

 I have a quick announcement which I would like to post. As you are now all aware, the Upper Wisconsin Renaissance Faire was canceled for the 2009 season this year. This has not changed. But, it will be returning in 2010, with many new changes for the better, starting with a new location and easier to get to. Much is still in the planning stages at the moment, so I am not at liberty to go into other specifics at this time. But, I wanted to get this out here to shed some new light to all the rennies who have attended in the past, those who have been looking forward to this faire, and everyone else who wants to never see a faire wither away. This will continue to be a place to enjoy your hobby. What I have been told so far is very exciting and I look forward to sharing it all with everyone soon. Thanks to all of you who have prayed and sent your wonderful comments about this issue before. They have gone LOUDLY noticed. I will keep everyone posted as things become available, but for now, its a BIG HUZZAH and keep looking here for more information.

Respectfully,

Lord Sir Clisto of York  
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: groomporter on March 16, 2009, 04:33:54 PM
"Upper"? Wisconsin Renaissance Faire?

-Just wanted to be sure you're talking about the one near Chippewa Falls. I just never heard it referred to as the "Upper" Wisconsin Renaissance Faire.
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Toarmod on March 16, 2009, 06:12:57 PM
Tis grand news indeed.

New home? Hmm, be a shame if the buildings can't salvaged. 
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: DeadBishop on March 16, 2009, 11:21:14 PM
Problem with land ownership perhaps?  At the moment I can't think of any other reason to move after putting so much time and energy over a short period of time.  Hoping for the best...
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on March 17, 2009, 01:28:31 AM
1) Sorry Groomtrooper, yes, it is officially the "Wisconsin Ren Faire" in Chippewa falls.  We have been calling it the "Upper", so as not to be confused with the Bristol faire which many people have done.

2) I can say this to the second concern on the buildings, that there is something going on with the buildings to the new area as well. After all they are new.

3) DB has part of it in the land issue.

I really cant go into more then this now, but it is going to all work out in the end. I am just excited at being part in making this happen and in better circumstances all around. So, once again keep a watch on here for more info.

Lord Sir Clisto of York

Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Lord Figaro on March 18, 2009, 09:15:11 PM
That's great news to hear. I know it would have been a major bummer after what looked like it was going to grow into something that had such wonderful potential. Mayhap we hope it could be bigger and better than before. Onward to the future and I hope all gets worked out well in advance.
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on March 18, 2009, 11:24:07 PM
I agree on that. Can only look ahead and see what happens. But, we do have other vendors now wanting to move their buildings.
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: white trillium on March 19, 2009, 10:07:57 AM
Very excited to see/hear what is in store for 2009. 

Thanks for keeping us posted!
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on March 20, 2009, 03:06:57 PM
You are most welcome. I should have more news soon. I sooo miss this place as it is medieval and that is my period specialty and there aren't many of them.

Lord Sir Clisto of York
www.sirclisto.com
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Jezzy MacPeaks on March 20, 2009, 03:12:25 PM
Although, I've not been to this faire, I've heard  people speak of it kindly.  It is good to know it will continue next year.  Who knows, I might make it up that way, afterall.
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on March 23, 2009, 11:23:50 PM
Would def. like to have you there with us.
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Noble Dreg on March 24, 2009, 09:11:48 AM
Oh happy dance!

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Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Pizpor on March 25, 2009, 08:52:54 PM
Wait.... moving..... ?  Do I need to find a new rock to sleep on??

I have a hard enough time finding the current place. (But that's probably just me.)

Is it within staggering distance from the old place????

Cuthbert and I need to know if there will be mead.

I know - too many questions - but I'm starting to sober up with no definite plans for June...
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on March 26, 2009, 12:19:03 AM
Pizpor, I sent you a PM. Send me your phone number off line and I will call you.
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Pizpor on March 26, 2009, 09:24:09 PM
Did you get my message? I can't tell if the outbound message thing is working.
I don't want to keep spamming your inbox if it is working, but I just can't tell. Call me at your convenience.

Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on March 27, 2009, 12:04:09 AM
Yepper I got it. I left you another message on it.
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Crooked Creek on April 02, 2009, 06:17:21 PM
We are vender's that own a building at the current Wisconsin Renaissance Faire site. All we have heard are rumors, and no one has made any type of contact with us in regards to possible changes of ownership or location. Can you explain this?
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on April 02, 2009, 11:16:15 PM
If you write me off the board I can give you more information. I will give you my cell number on a private message and you may call me any time from noon to 4 pm daily mon to fri. Which shop do you have again? Send me that all on a PM too. I will be happy to let you know what I know for now. But, you should have someone getting in touch with you soon.

Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on July 30, 2009, 08:44:53 PM
Hello my friends,

  I have some news about the Upper Wisconsin Renaissance Faire.  I know people have been asking questions and waiting to hear if there is any new news about it, so I will try and shed some light on this situation.  As many of you are aware, the Upper Wisconsin Renaissance Faire came into some troubled times and ended up having to file for bankruptcy this year. This was due to having a bad year in 2008 and not being able to meet the cost of what the main land owner wanted.  So, this land in the meantime was put up for farm auction just this month to anyone wanting to purchase it. Before this time, vendors and others were told to remove any buildings or property they had on the site before the auction date.  It was not known if there even would be a faire from any new owner of the land. This is where things have been.

   Well, the auction has now completed and the new owners of the land are supposedly going to try and keep a faire going on the current property. This consists of some people who were involved before, but not any of the main core owners except for the main land owners. Many of the people you have all come to know are not in it. See the article on the sale and plans for the old area below –

http://www.chippewa.com/articles/2009/07/30/news/doc4a71f0f76eb14722441556.txt

At this point I want to interject, that during all of this, WE, of the main core of owners from before have been looking for a new location to have our original faire. We have looked at several locations and have found one which we like very much and suites everyone well.  Therefore, I want to make it clear, that although these new owners of the Chippewa land are saying they are going ahead with the faire, it WILL NOT be the faire that everyone knew.  It will be a different entity all together and possibly wont even be Medieval, but are unsure until it happens.  And, they may try and make it similar. Also, the name Wisconsin Renaissance Faire is still owned by the originals and will carry forward to the original rebirth faire to happen as well in 2010, but the same as everyone knew it to be. So, there will be the possibility of TWO faires, but only one will be like it was, and that one will be at a new location, owned by rennies, performers and vendors.

    The land which we have seen and have at our disposal is a great area with way easier access. It is between Glennwood City and Downing, Wisconsin, closer to the Minnesota border.  We have already established that the two individuals who have the land are willing to run some of the faire as one is the rennie that owns the land and they have shown heavy involvement now.  Thus, we ARE looking at having the REAL Original Wisconsin Renaissance Faire in 2010, for three weekends from the last weekend in July and the first two weekends in August. This has been moving along at a good pace for now. It will start out smaller as it should have done, and we will go from there.  Yes, we are aware it will run when Bristol is on and it will also end the weekend before Minnesota Faire opens.  There are reasons for this which I will not go in to at this time. Anyway, this is the information I have at this point. I hope this will clear up some things and the uncertainty. In the meantime, if anyone has any questions, please e-mail me and I will try and answer what I can.  Below is a link to a map of Glennwood City, Wisconsin.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&rlz=1T4SUNA_enUS221US221&ei=30dySvXyC5SCNoeAlbEM&resnum=0&q=glenwood+city+wisconsin&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=6EdySo-PPJX8Me77lLEM&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1

Sir Clisto
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: DarkMoor Camping on August 06, 2009, 05:13:57 PM
Salutations!

Is this fix permanent? If so I am sadeneded..ede.ended

=)

My wife and I are living in California. We just had a baby and have decided to move back home...

Home = the midwest in general but for me its Pepin, Nelson, Euclaire even Racine...

Our plan was to purchase land or an existing campground, and develop it with a main purpose of supporting camping and a Renfaire.

I just recently decided to find a way to "meet" a faire organizer, and lo I find you who live so close to my home...in need of that which I wish so eagerly to provide.

I am saddeneded.

If there is any room for collaboration, I would love to be contacted. Please e-mail me at Shane.Beegle@gmail.com

I am not sure how "involved" I will be with this particular forums while trying to sleep every minute our baby lets us, but I will be sure to check my e-mail at least once a day.

HUZZAH

-Shane

Prospective owner/manager and wifeslave of the soon to be realized DarkMoor camping
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on August 12, 2009, 02:54:28 AM
Another Update....

Very interesting..... Just another update on the issue with the new faire owners who took over the land in Chippewa and are trying to make the faire still a go for next year. First, I want to state again, that WE, of the original Wisconsin Renaissance Faire that was there, are not affiliated with A1 Excavating who has purchased the land and are trying to make it a go for 2010. Our new faire will be located elsewhere as stated before.

Now, having said this and making it clear, for those of you who do not know, A1 Excavating, the new owners of the land which want to try and make it a go with their own faire, has just lost a large lawsuit for a discrimination totaling over $700,000.00. Yes, these are the people that want to own and run this venture. They have also not to long ago been cited for many OSHA violations also totaling $700,000.00. Below is the recent article on the matter above which verdict came down I believe just a week ago around August 7th. Just follow the link to read it -

http://www.wqow.com/Global/story.asp?S=10868176

Just felt I needed to put this out there for everyone so the two partys do not get lumped into the same kettle. The McVeys, and others of us who were original investor/owners as well as performers of the original faire management in Chippewa for the first three years it was running are in no way associated with this new group, thus us starting over elsewhere.

Clisto
Title: Re: Good News in the works!!!
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on August 13, 2009, 11:40:06 PM
One More Update...

One More Article about A1 Excavating who bought the faire/land in Chippewa Falls. This one goes into more detail about the big discrimination lawsuit and settlement. This is from the Leader Telegram online from the Chippewa area. It is just unreal. And they want to own/run a faire. Follow the link below -

http://www.leadertelegram.com/story-news_local.asp?id=BKQEAIUT06J

Clisto
Title: Re: Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Crooked Creek on August 30, 2009, 09:44:21 AM
I feel I need to add a comment to this page.

To all situations there are always more sides to every issue than the one being shared. I want to encourage everyone with questions, interest or concerns regarding the continued Faire in Chippewa to look at all sides of the picture, and make their own determination as to what they personally want to do. One sided information can be very misleading. Contact the current owners. Hear what they want to do. Consider your options and decide for yourself.

Crooked Creek has done that and is staying in Chippewa. We feel this is the best decision for us based on past and present experiences.

It seems in today's society that everyone has an agenda. My agenda in writing this entry is simply to ask you to make sure you are well informed before you make any decision regarding your involvement in either Faire. Do what's best for you.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on August 31, 2009, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: Crooked Creek on August 30, 2009, 09:44:21 AM
I feel I need to add a comment to this page.

To all situations there are always more sides to every issue than the one being shared. I want to encourage everyone with questions, interest or concerns regarding the continued Faire in Chippewa to look at all sides of the picture, and make their own determination as to what they personally want to do. One sided information can be very misleading. Contact the current owners. Hear what they want to do. Consider your options and decide for yourself.

Crooked Creek has done that and is staying in Chippewa. We feel this is the best decision for us based on past and present experiences.

It seems in today's society that everyone has an agenda. My agenda in writing this entry is simply to ask you to make sure you are well informed before you make any decision regarding your involvement in either Faire. Do what's best for you.

I totally agree and in no way am discouraging people from performing, or vending or whatever there. I just do not want people to go into anything blind either. And I feel, with all do respect, your statement is trying to get others to look the other way from any real facts. They need to decide and see what is, is. I am merely letting everyone know of the situation as it unfolds since it has been brought up by others in the past. I do not, and repeat do not deal in any rumor mill and it is one of my big pet peeves. And I am not saying you or anyone else has said so, so I want to make that clear before my next statement.

The FACTS which I have posted are just that without a side either way. These things happened, from the sale to the criminal charges, to what people are planning on doing. It is as, as you stated, up to any individual to look into things further and take what steps they want to do whatever they feel they would like to do. But, it isn't a "More Sides" issue since fact is fact. There may be underlying circumstances in things, but it is what it is, let us not forget that and whatever outcome came from the issues presented no matter what anyone says. To assume otherwise would be to disregard the truth or facts. And then decisions are going to be based on things other then that. I am merely the messenger of said facts. And, as more information comes to light, if it does, I will gladly post it either way to let people know. I spend a lot of time in my faire season thwarting rumor from faires and other venues which people hear from a friend of a friend etc or from this place etc... I go to the source and as you stated as well everyone should do on any future questions or issue. I just say do not look past any real facts. They are a matter of record and are what they are and do not change. I am glad you have decided to do what you find best for you with this. I hope it works out for you.

Respectfully
Lord Clisto, Duke of York

PS - anyone has any private questions or comments for me please e-mail them to me at - sirclisto1@sbcglobal.net 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Crooked Creek on September 01, 2009, 06:54:23 PM
I want to thank you for sharing with us your hopes that this works out for us. It's appreciated.

Trust me, if you can, when I say I agree; there are concerns. There is a lot of information out there and as you rightly pointed out, there are some major issues. Anyone considering involvement with either Faire needs to be aware that these things have occurred. I am in no way saying that all past events should be overlooked. They are there and need acknowledgment. I too have difficulty with rumors, and can only speak to what we have dealt with this past year.

We are in a unique situation as we purchased our building at the end of the Faire in 2008, based on the positive information we received regarding the financial status of the Faire from the previous management. Less than 6 months later we received a call from friends that live in the Eau Claire area asking us what was up. We had no idea. We attempted to contact members of the management team. We tried calling  and emailing. Unfortunately, we did not get one return call or email until April when we heard there was going to be a meeting in May to discuss what had happened and the possibility of finding a way to continue the Faire.  We attended that meeting and began considering our options. We attended the sale of the property and then went to check out the grounds. It's a year since the last Faire and we have not been able to use the building for the reasons we purchased it. It would be untrue if I said it wasn't aggravating.

2010 seems a long time from now, but at least it means we will have the chance to continue on with this new endeavor we started last year.
Perfect... No.
Problem free... No.
A risk... Yes.
A chance to actually use what we invested in .. without a doubt.

We met some amazing people, our first year as merchants, and wanted to continue the 5 week "working vacation". The people and the potential were what lead us to buy the building. We hope to meet more amazing people and work towards making a Faire there a success.

So wrapping this up, as I said the first time, not matter which Faire people consider, Do what's right for you.
Title: Re: Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on September 01, 2009, 07:23:12 PM
Well said then. And true investments were made especially by vendors. The projected financial situation at that time was probably correct if it were not for 1) the bad weather all Wisconsin had which really took its toll on our faire as well as others. Bristol didnt even open on a Saturday due to flooding and lost a ton of money, and 2) one other incident which we were shocked to find which hurt us financially and could have kept us going for at least this season if it had not. It was unfortunate about the MGT issue since they are all good honest people. It just got to a point they had other issues which took the forefront of everything at the time to work on keeping the faire going after what had happened and they could not get back to everyone then. It was not intentional. And, there still is a lot more that happened I will not get in to here and is still ongoing, so I only want to move forward at this point letting things happen as they happen.

I can see your aggravation and understand. You are just one of many that got caught up in a lot of unfortunate circumstances. If you are able to recoup and once again use your building I am happy. I am also glad you enjoyed all the people there. It is always good to have that where one works. I wish you luck in your future. Personally I lost the acting gig there, but as life has its unexpected turns, I have been fortunate to perform since then with some fantastic people in Iowa which I am leaving this coming weekend do once again at the Des Moines Ren Faire. Now, to find something in the earlier time of year again.

Respectfully
Lord Clisto, Duke of York
Title: Re: Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Dayna on September 02, 2009, 03:04:35 PM
Correction, Bristol did not open One Sunday in 2007 (weekend 7, Aug 19) due to flooding.  What that has to do with the WI faire between 2008 and 2009 is a mystery to me.  MNRF closed early on Saturday the 18th but was open the 19th and did good business both days.

Dayna Thomas
Title: Re: Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on September 02, 2009, 10:24:02 PM
Thank you Unilady for the correction. The years go by so fast. I have been so involved with all the other stuff going on it went right by. It seemed all the same time since it was the weather. But the main issue was flooding like Bristol had prior. That's the connection. I-94 was closed for a week then and people had to go a long way to get through. There was also other areas of the freeway down and it killed us up there the first 2 weekends. This had nothing to do with 2009 at all except the final outcome from 2008. Everything started in 2008 season and then fell through after we didnt do well from weather and didnt have the funds enough to pay what the land owner wanted. Thus the land being sold this year. Does that make more sense. Sorry for the confusion.

Clisto 
Title: Re: Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on October 08, 2009, 09:31:49 PM
Here is the latest on the OSHA fines and settlement for A1-excavating just issued.

http://www.leadertelegram.com/local_news/story/article_74f44c1f-850e-5b1e-83ed-b0d770e1fd7c.html

Now everyone is up to date on all the older news of the Old Chippewa Faire, formally known as the Wisconsin Renaissance Faire. I have heard they changed their name but to what I am not sure.
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Robert Phoenix on November 09, 2009, 05:55:14 PM
Clistro-long time no see (from the former Lord Michael Thwack).  I was down there for the first year and wasn't able to make it back again even though we wanted too.  I was bummed out when I heard it was canceled for the year but I'm glad to see things are movong forward rather than moving nowhere at all. 
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on November 10, 2009, 01:46:36 AM
Hey, how the heck are ya?  Yes, it was a bummer for all of us, but, we are moving ahead to the Glennwood City area. This is our website - http://www.wirenfaire.com/

So far we had our first meeting and went out to see the land and rennie land owners. We will be making it a tent city for the first several years in the new location, but it looks to be a great area. And, its closer to Minnesota. Looking forward to 2010.

Lord Clisto, Duke of York
Knight of the Holy Blade of York
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Sitara on January 07, 2010, 11:56:17 AM
I JUST noticed this.  You are going to be about 20 minutes from my house.  Awesome...I'm used to having to drive at least an hour to get even near a faire.
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on January 08, 2010, 01:24:44 AM
That would be cool if everything keeps going as it is. Thats how I am for Bristol. I am only 25 mins away. But i am 4.5 to 5 for this one.
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Dinobabe on January 10, 2010, 06:05:17 PM
I would KILL to have a faire in my backyard!

I hope things go well this year for the "new" faire.
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lady L on January 10, 2010, 11:05:40 PM
Sir R works over in Wisc. and he heard there was still going to be a faire at the Chippewa Falls location. So, are there going to be 2 faires in that area this year? Or is that a rumor? TY
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on January 12, 2010, 11:56:47 PM
There would be 2(two). Chippewa was our old location and the new owners are suppose to have theirs. Then later in summer our new location which was Chippewa should be on in Glennwood City. That one is about 45 mins further north/west. Go to the   http://www.wirenfaire.com/ website to get some info on the Wisconsin Renaissance Faire.

Clisto
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lady L on January 13, 2010, 12:56:26 AM
Thank you for clearing that up, good Sir Clisto!
Wow, two faires so close together! I hope I can get to both of them this year. :)
Yes, I had looked at that website and it looked just like the previous one, so that's part of the confusion. What is the other faire going to be called?

So is this right, the old Chippewa faire aka Wisconsin Renaissance Faire, will be in Glenwood City and the new faire-without-a-name will be at the Chippewa location?
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on January 13, 2010, 10:48:38 PM
You are correct, and the name of the other faire is - Chippewa Valley Renaissance Faire
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lady L on January 14, 2010, 12:44:52 AM
TY for the info, Sir Clisto!
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on January 14, 2010, 10:25:21 PM
Welcome. As I know more I will post here.
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: SleepyArcher on March 28, 2010, 03:59:05 PM
I checked the website out for WIRF and it states the next dates are 2011. Is there not going to be a faire this summer?
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on March 28, 2010, 09:42:53 PM
It is sad, but you are correct. I was going to post something once I had all the info for sure. It has been postponed until next year to try and get everything up and going. The land has been worked on pretty much but many other factors have to still come together. So, nothing until at least 2011.
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: LadyFae on March 29, 2010, 08:15:13 PM
Ok, so just to be clear on this- there will NOT be a Faire in Glenwood this year (old Faire, new location) but there WILL be one in Chippewa Falls (old location, new Faire?)
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on March 30, 2010, 02:52:19 AM
Yepper, that would be correct.
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lady L on April 01, 2010, 11:19:23 PM
 :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Nonesuch on May 07, 2010, 12:17:54 PM
There is no Wisconsin Renaissance Faire this year. wirenfaire.com
There is, however, a professionally produced Faire opening on the Wisconsin Festival Grounds 2302 Nelson Rd in Chippewa Falls. festfun.com
Under General Manager John T Mills, who produced and directed King Richard's Faire in Boston and Kenosha, the fair grounds are filling up with human powered rides, a huge musical cast, elephant rides, and a more ren friendly and less carny food menu.
The Royal Court is headed by Michael Marzella and Lolly Foy.
check us out on FaceBook.
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on May 07, 2010, 09:40:19 PM
Yes, the Chippewa Valley Renaissance Faire.
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Pizpor on May 21, 2010, 08:22:46 PM
Hi Lord Clisto,

It was truly great to see you down in Janesville. That was a blast.
Stay in touch. I'd like to continue our conversation.

Best,
Pizpor
Title: Re: The Old Wisconsin Renaissance Faire News
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on May 22, 2010, 10:30:25 PM
Thanks, it was great seeing you there as well. My friends loved the show so much they had tears in their eyes laughing. I knew they would. I plug you where I can. I am in Dubuque at the moment through Sunday performing. Great weather and nice crowds so far. My e-mail is - sirclisto1@sbcgloobal.net. I will give you my cell number on there. Just send a mail.

Clisto