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Faire Garb => Garbing => Topic started by: Eric the Ugly on February 02, 2011, 11:18:12 PM

Title: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: Eric the Ugly on February 02, 2011, 11:18:12 PM
Please tell me more about THESE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimfrazier/3784746775/) HATS (http://www.xulphlux.com/photos.php?tpl=photo&m=p&iid=3232).

What are they?

Where can I get one or two or more?
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: ArielCallista on February 02, 2011, 11:37:07 PM
I've seen tons before, but have yet to see a vendor with them...they are very simple tho so I'm sure you could find someone to make you one or a billion lol...in fact I have made one for myself...
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: Eric the Ugly on February 02, 2011, 11:39:48 PM
Oddly, I keep seeing them in pics taken at TRF or Scarborough, which made me figure that there was a vendor (same?) at both that sold them.
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: operafantomet on February 03, 2011, 12:39:37 AM
Please tell me more about THESE (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimfrazier/3784746775/) HATS (http://www.xulphlux.com/photos.php?tpl=photo&m=p&iid=3232).

What are they?

Where can I get one or two or more?
Almost reminds me of smoking caps/hats from the 19th century!

http://www.victoriana.com/Mens-Clothing/mens-smokingcap.htm
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: Anna Iram on February 03, 2011, 05:46:37 AM
I've seen those around too. Some of the musicians like to wear them.  Reminds me a bit of a Turkish hat, but definitely with a Ren faire flare with the fabrics. I'm betting you are right and there's a shop at faire that sells them.  Do you have a list of TRF or Scarby vendors? Maybe that could help with the search.
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: Lady Kett on February 03, 2011, 07:26:04 AM
There is a hat vendor sort of on the corner near the Whismey Stage, near the Jousting area at Scarborough that sells them. The other hat vendors may but I've bought one at this location, I just can't remember their name.

The gypsy contingent uses those hats a lot! I think they're adorable!

Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: Eric the Ugly on February 03, 2011, 07:40:22 AM
I went through the vendors list at the TRF website and went to every vendor that had a webpage listed under "Adornment" and "Clothiers" and no joy. :(

I'll guess that, whoever they are, they are one of the many ren vendors who (for some outstandingly bizarre reason) have no website (in this day in age! Sheesh!).  :-\
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: bookwench on February 03, 2011, 09:50:52 AM
That vendor is Lionheart Hats.  They do amazing work, but as far as I can tell, they don't have a website. 


There is a hat vendor sort of on the corner near the Whismey Stage, near the Jousting area at Scarborough that sells them. The other hat vendors may but I've bought one at this location, I just can't remember their name.

The gypsy contingent uses those hats a lot! I think they're adorable!


Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: Lady Kathleen of Olmsted on February 03, 2011, 10:01:55 AM
The hat looks like a softer fabric version of a Pillbox that is worn on top of the head rather than off to the side or back of the head. Easy enough to make and line.
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: groomporter on February 03, 2011, 12:31:17 PM
Reminds me of the hats some African immigrants wear

Here's something similar called a "kufi"
http://www.wilsdom.com/store/page32.html


http://www.africastyles.com/Accessory/hats/hat_accessory2.shtml

http://www.tapestrycrochet.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/bafutcameroonhats.jpg
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: Anna Iram on February 03, 2011, 01:22:52 PM
That hat seems to follow alot of cultures in the Middle east and through Africa and even into Asia. Would have been the Ottoman Empire during the Renaissance I guess.
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: groomporter on February 03, 2011, 03:40:13 PM
And them durn Gypsies...  ::)
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: amy on February 03, 2011, 04:25:18 PM
I'll send Aavid a message and ask him where he got his hat!   Maybe that's a good start! It does look rather smart on him doesn't it!
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: Rowan MacD on February 03, 2011, 06:40:49 PM
Reminds me of the hats some African immigrants wear

Here's something similar called a "kufi"
http://www.wilsdom.com/store/page32.html

http://www.africastyles.com/Accessory/hats/hat_accessory2.shtml

http://www.tapestrycrochet.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/bafutcameroonhats.jpg

  The Kufi style hat is what I thought they looked like first;  I know I had seen a lot of them back in the 70's when 'Roots' was all the rage with African Americans.  They are very similar to this Islamic headgear: http://www.shukronline.com/mens-hats.html 
  Though I have to say the ones at faire are closer to what Lady Kathleen describes: A modified Pillbox hat ala Jackie Kennedy.
  They look easy enough to make; a 1/2 yard of brocade would probably be more than enough to make a couple.


Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: Eric the Ugly on February 03, 2011, 07:19:41 PM
Due to the extra info here, I've done more digging and haven't found anything of great interest. Nothing worthwhile on Etsy using "kufi" or "pillbox", except the expected results.

It seems that Sofi's Stitches once offered a (rather boring) black velvet one that is still available at By The Sword, that they called the [ul=http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Flemish_Pill_Hat_VL-PILLHAT.html]"Flemish Pill Hat"[/url]. I've no idea how accurate such a name is. I couldn't find anything supporting that, but then, I didn't look all that hard.

Unfortunate.
The hats in the pics in my original post are so incredibly cool looking. Heck, I might even be halfway decent-looking in one.
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: ArielCallista on February 04, 2011, 12:38:45 PM
I have a friend that is on cast and wears one...I'll ask and see if he knows where it came from...
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: Anna Iram on February 04, 2011, 01:38:03 PM
There's a listing for a Lionheart Hat Shop in Sterling NY.

15385 Farden Road
Sterling NY. 13156-3275

Phone# 315-947-6646

No website is shown with the listing, but it might be worth a call.

*edit* The sterling faire website shows Lionheart and a link to a website underconstruction. A few pics though...

http://www.sterlingfestival.com/thefestival/FestivalMarketplace/tabid/139/Default.aspx
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: Eric the Ugly on February 08, 2011, 10:11:49 PM
Thanks to all for the info and help! It's much appreciated. :)
Now, to see if I can squeeze one into the garb budget before GARF (looking unlikely -lol-).  :P
Title: Re: A lil bit o' hat help
Post by: dragongirl on February 11, 2011, 02:08:14 PM
I know I'm a bit tardy to the party but I thought I would just let you know that The Verry Merry Seamstress also carries that style hat and she will customize it however you choose.  Just contact her.