Hi Everyone,
Can you recommend a Big 3 Pattern to make basic garb pants for my bratty son? He is seventeen and 5' 11".
Nothing fancy or complicated please, something I can knock out in an afternoon.
I am using black broadcloth.
Merci!
(http://www.simplicity.com/assets/4059/4059.jpg)
Simplicuty 4059
(http://img.sewingtoday.com/cat/40000/itm_img/M5446.jpg)
McCalls 5446
(http://img.sewingtoday.com/cat/10000/itm_img/B4574.jpg)
Butterick 4574
Hope these are of help.
The most basic are 4 rectangles.
width of the side of the hip to the belly-button line, length of waist to ankles.
Here is one of the ugliest drawings of what I am talking about:
(http://escherblacksmith.googlepages.com/simplest_pants.jpg)
I use a pajama pants pattern. Try to get the one that consists of one pattern piece. You cut both legs together, sew up the inseam, tuck one leg inside the other, sew up the crotch, turn the legs out, sew a casing for elastic or drawstring and hem the cuffs. I spend more time pinning the pattern to the material, and then pinning the long seams on the pants legs together , than I do in the actual sewing.
Or, try http://oakdancer.com/parenting/paganpants.htm (http://oakdancer.com/parenting/paganpants.htm) for wrap pants.
Randal
Hallo!
A question about mens pants - um....<blush> does one sew a fly or some sort of trapdoor in the front of said trousers? I mean, with a belt and vest over, possibly a second belt holding a pouch, a mug, etc, etc...it's not very....practical to drop trou.
Advice? suggestions?
I've been bitten HARD by the bug, and would love to do it right.
thank you,
MaryKatherine
None of Milord's pants have flies. ('Course, come to think of it, not sure I've ever seen him use the privy at Fair. :o Erm, that is, I mean I'm not sure I've ever seen him head off in the direction of the privies. Yeah.)
I love my Pirate pants, they have buttons. Of course, I don't have to worry about all that in a kilt. Having said this, most of the pants I wear do not have a fly or opening, as that was not too common in early periods. I would LOVE to find a pattern that has a hidden fly or something though. Anyone have any ideas?
The pajama pants pattern has no fly. The wrap pants require no fly. Yes, it take a moment or two longer to drop trou, but I don't wait until the last minute and get in a bind. Personally, I welcome the opportunity to readjust the belt/pants/shirt/doublet.
If you do leave an opening, you've given yourself the perfect excuse for adding a codpiece.
Randal
Simplicity 4059 (above) has a really nice pants pattern. There's a shaped yoke with a button fly. It's not too tricky if you have some sewing experience, just be sure to mark everything carefully before you put it together. It's probably more of a weekend project, though.
I have also used scrubs or pajama pants patterns with great success. They're fast and easy. There are lots patterns out there for those (and big 3 patterns go on sale for $1-$1.99 all the time), but I think they're all pretty much the same. For several years, my husband has worn scrub pants made out of pinwale corduroy stuffed into his boot tops. No potty issues have been reported.
I picked up a pajama pants pattern.
Since pattern directions are written in hieroglyphics to me, I will consult a friend/Maman to get me started. I learn by doing, not by reading vague directions with crappy pictures.
Thanks for the help everyone. I hope to have them done this weekend.
If you find it isn't working out, Kate, and you need something in a hurry?
Try scrub pants.
A friend of mine did that and no one knew.
Thanks honey.
I thought about that. But I need a pair of black Lg/XL so of course I will never find a pair in time.
I will find them when I am not looking.
I have the pants cut out, and will try working on them shortly.
Just a quick thing--don't forget to compare the pattern size you're using to a *real* pair of the gent's pants; mundane patterns can run *very* large. I made Milord a pair of pair of pyjama pants last winter. In real life, he wears an XL (40-42), but I think I ended up making him a *medium* from the pattern, and they're still roomy!
I got the legs started and will have a friend walk me thru the rest. If they run large, I'll figure something out.
Too large = extra poof. Tuck 'em into boots on the bottom, and tighten the waistband, and its all good (within reason). I actually used a pajama pants pattern, but wanted it poofier myself. Might just be that pattern though...
Easiest thing to do is to pick up a darker pair of scrub pants. Pretty much the same as most of the patterns. Most have a drawstring waist. Come up to 5xl.
Quote from: genasguy on August 08, 2008, 11:33:43 AM
Easiest thing to do is to pick up a darker pair of scrub pants.
Ok, people keep saying that, but where do ordinary folks get scrubs? I mean, this isn't something that they just carry *everywhere.*
Actually, they carry scrubs at walmart in the womens section (even though they are unisex).
Quote from: Trillium on August 08, 2008, 04:27:47 PM
Actually, they carry scrubs at walmart in the womens section (even though they are unisex).
I've seen them in Walmart's lingerie dept, sort of with the pajamas.
You could look in the phonebook "uniforms", as well.
www.uniformadvantage.com is the cheapest i've seen so far (have a sometimes job at a vets office..)
Well, my friend helped me finish the pants. The only thing left to do it hem them, which I can handle myself.
AND I looked at Wally world for the scrubs. They didn't have his size, but it is good to know it is an option.
I always check the actual finished garment measurements vs what the pattern says. When you are trying something new/complicated I try to make a mock up.
I'm currently making pants for the rogue. If they are too small i may steal them and use them as bloomers. I mean what person would wear thin white cotton pants through faire? ;)
PS: You can find scrubs in the Uniform Section at most thrift stores as well.
I have the Simplicity 4059 Men's Renaissance pattern as well. I plan on making some breeches from the pattern as well as a doublet.
I used the breeches pattern from Simplicity 4059 for myself. I love the way they turned out. Should work well for both men and women.
I don't mean to highjack this thread :) But I'm almost finished the jacket from this same pattern 4059. Can anyone tell me aproximately what year-ish it is supposed to represent? Thank you!
I am not entirely sure, but I do believe that it would be mid to late Renaissance. Don't have a specific year, sorry.
sorry to jump in here so late. I found a pair of black lounge pants at K-Mart that I will use for my faire garb. Looks just like the ones you can make. they were cheap too, around $7.00
I'm working on a pair of pants at the moment using Simplicity 5441- it's a pretty straight forward scrub pant. I had some grey cotton left over from my pirate coat, and I'm a bit tired of the one and only pair of ren pants I own. I'm hoping to have them done by this weekend- maybe.
I do have a question. These pants will only be worn tucked into some sort of tall boot. I was planning on making them short, which is good, because I don't have quite enough fabric to make them full length if I wanted to. I'd like to make them reach down to just below the 'meat' of my calf, with some sort of 'something' to keep them from coming out of my boots, or adding a lot of bulk under my boots. My black ren pants have eyelets and lace that hold them into place, but it's kinda a pain to do(I'm fixing that as well). I'd like to do something different, and was thinking either simply going with elastic, or maybe a simple tie. I don't think velcro would work that well- it seems to be difficult to get it to pull tight.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Tim T:
Here is an incredibly cheap idea and requires no sewing! My ren pants are one-size fits all and about six inches too long. I place an ordinary 3.25 inch rubber band around my calf, roll my pant legs around the rubber band and tuck inside my boots. No need to spend time and effort on part of your garb no one will see. Can't beat the price and it works great.
I've done something similar when I didn't have my flashes for my kilt socks, I took a band of some cloth or cloth ribbon and tied it around my calf, then rolled the sock down. For you, obviously, it would be on the pant leg below the calf and rolled up.
"PS: You can find scrubs in the Uniform Section at most thrift stores as well."
As a very large, chea...uh, thrifty, nurse, I'd tell you to look on ebay for scrubs. As a general rule, cheaper than anywhere else, new and used, and frequently up to 5xl. Black is fairly common.
well.. you could always turn them into stirrup pants... that's what my mom always called em... just take a peice of elastic long enough to reach from the pant bottom under your arch and up to the other side of the pant..
Quote from: gypsylakat on August 14, 2008, 11:52:40 AM
well.. you could always turn them into stirrup pants... that's what my mom always called em... just take a peice of elastic long enough to reach from the pant bottom under your arch and up to the other side of the pant..
Um... thanks for the suggestion, but no.
I don't think I would feel piratey in stirrup pants. No, definately not.
lol just a suggestion... hehehe ;D