I think we need a thread to consolidate pictures of all of us in our various armored personas. I know there is a similiar thread on the myarmory boards, but it would be nice to see everyone's kits. I love seeing the variety out there. I'll start with mine, but hope many of you will join in.....Show us your full kits, shields, weapons, etc.
Early 5th Century BC Corinthian Hoplite
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/GreekSetC003a.jpg)
Late 5th Century BC Athenian Hoplite
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/GreekSetB004a.jpg)
1st Century AD Roman Legionnaire
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/001.jpg)
10th Century Viking
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/003.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/002.jpg)
12th Century Templar
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/005.jpg)
12th Century Knight
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/004.jpg)
16th Century Samurai
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/JapaneseArmor/013.jpg)
And a few shields for flavor.
Scottish Targe
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/l_096f004b8e80b1997a27cda81ba04134.jpg)
Boeotian
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/007.jpg)
Heaters
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/008.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/l_31b757d283b072d6a026c99728f89ba6.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/l_76ffedae4a9db906fec1825d92c71158.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/l_8915e899e991bed6fe5bc9a12480f46e.jpg)
Kite
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/l_79b1ee8fa9ade8a9be180a8a03cb16ca.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/l_cd8ebaa1453e0a483bd417f4a0727c9f.jpg)
Tear Drop
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/l_98472dfb4cb80c247e690ca163d8e4d5.jpg)
Parma
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/l_849d965408686e3767a8c64f0e311088.jpg)
Ecranche
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/l_8059f19a7dbb5e1e1b4d0b1f63da9c9c.jpg)
13th Cen Templar
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii245/Warrior_Monk/13thcentemplar.jpg)
12th Cen Templar Sergeant
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii245/Warrior_Monk/22Mar09003.jpg)
Awesome look. I love the sergeant impression. Hopefully more people will join in soon. I think I am going through armor withdrawal while I am playing fiddle and dressing gypsy for Scarby.
So I hear, at least you have a broad base to diversify. I'm narrow minded and tunnel vision equipped, I can't see pass the Beausant. :P ;D
Chris B: I thank you, m'Lord for starting this thread. That way I can't be blamed for it! I have admired your work for some time, and it is a second credit to you that your work is so diverse.
If I may, I wish to use this thread as a sort of narrative of my armored evolution. After a few years of garbing as a woodsman/mercenary/peasant, I decided that I had tried to ignore my itch for armor long enough. My armor purchase (besides several pairs of bracers, of course) was a chain maille hauberk. I also picked up a pair of metal plated bracers and a pair of greaves to round out the protection. I was trying to decide if a tabard would suit my attitude, when I learned of a Knight's travelling tabard, which I liked the look of. Here I am, with m'Lady, outside the chapel and MDRF in 2006.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/RobertArmstrong/2006MarylandRenFest007.jpg)
That only satisfied for a short time - I wanted something more. I came to the conclusion that my RenPersona would never have been rich enough for metal plate armor, but leather plate would be perfect. I didn't want black, I like the idea of being different. Brown was the answer, and what I found for a company in Georgia was indeed different. This is me, I think at Great Lakes, in 2007.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/RobertArmstrong/July2007026-1.jpg)
But, the brown leather wasn't different enough. I am a bit of an attention whore, and wanted something else that would make me stand out, and then it came to me - I had never seen anybody in scale maille at any of the RenFests I had been to. So I set to it. This is the present stage of my armor illness, taken in Sterling, 2008.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/RobertArmstrong/SterlingTripJuly2008008-1.jpg)
My next step is a helm, which will require some careful thinking.
Along the way, I have made some great friends, along with one time chance meetings.
I met this gentleman in both his namesake Black Armor
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/RobertArmstrong/2007Ohio-MichiganTrip027-1.jpg)
and his 2nd version Red Armor in Michigan.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/RobertArmstrong/0805023.jpg)
I was enchanted by this lass in Michigan as well.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/RobertArmstrong/0805022.jpg)
I met this metal plated Knight at OhRF
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/RobertArmstrong/2006RenFestOhio39.jpg)
and this Samurai at MdRF.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/RobertArmstrong/0805092.jpg)
I met these fine Nobles at the Pub in MiRF
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/RobertArmstrong/2007Ohio-MichiganTrip028.jpg)
and was challenged (and bested) by a small wizard at Great Lakes.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/RobertArmstrong/July2007032.jpg)
Finally, my best friend and RenBuddy, Brent.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/RobertArmstrong/SterlingTripJuly2008006.jpg)
He introduced my to Faire through the now defunct Ontario RenFest, and is largely responsible for my RenFest fever. He has been on every trip to Faire that I have every been on except one, and he is also the one that suggested my wife and I could have a Medieval wedding, since we loved going to Faire so much.
Thanks for indulging me. See you at Faire.
Closest thing to armor I've got is my 17th century elk hide buff coat
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v79/240/97/673048898/n673048898_122567_5995.jpg)
Robert,
I absolutely love the full set with the scale maille underneath the leather. That is a very unique look and you're right; I have never seen anyone wear it at fair. I have been debating taking scales and linothorax construction methods to make a full set of fantasy armor, but I just do not have the motivation right now after the linothorax.
Groom porter,
Even unarmored it is still a nice look. The colors are very eye catching.
Now come on guys, I know we are not the only four armored personas out there. Lets see the variety out there.
Here's a nicely detailed picture of my armor taken at PARF by Michael Ulrich.
(http://fast1.onesite.com/darklord.renspace.com/large/a19402fbe5e6faebb2866d479f13475f.jpg?)
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/kulrath/P2170035.jpg)
These are the DragonSlayers at the Arizona Renaissance Festival in 2008.
I am on the right. All of our armor is handmade nothing is bought except for the leather, which we buy in roles from Tandy's Leather.
Great pics. Keep em coming.....
Sir Robert, thanks for posting the pictures. I just saw this thread and was going to post some until I was pleasantly suprised by the ones you posted. Those are nice shots. The black set was my first attempt at making armor and didn't come out so great. I purchased the helm and chain but made the chest/back kidney belt, kilt and legs. The only tools I had to make that set with was a razor knife, hole punch, rivet setter and a rubber mallet. I took what I learned from making the black armor and applied it to the red armor which I think is a big improvement. I went a little overboard and bought a quite a collection of actual leather working tools, most of which I didn't know how to use.
I made everything on the red armor except the helm and chain which I purchased. I am now remaking the black armor and have finished the chest and back. There is more tooling on the new set and I am using an airbrush to do a black/red fade that looks pretty good so far. I'm learning as I go and hopefully the new black armor will be an improvement over the red.
My armor is a work in progress, I use it both for Faire and Screams so it must be user friendly. Don't want anyone injured by accidental contact in the dark. I have made all of it myself up until the face piece upgrade 2 years ago. That I commisioned to a very talented artist Jen Harrison. I plan on more upgrades before Screams this year and will be wearing it to TRF in November.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/Dragonslayer808/P1010429.jpg)(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/Dragonslayer808/P1010430.jpg)
Oh, and here's the back.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/Dragonslayer808/P1010251.jpg)
Here's a picture of my armor when I'm in a more Mongolian-Asian mood.
(http://fast1.onesite.com/darklord.renspace.com/miscellaneous/large/6cc2ec35bdf6b4a31c23c8704cfc39f7.jpg?v=149400)
Love the Mongol armor. Cannot believe I missed that post this long. Asian armor is so different from all other cultures and that is awesome. Keep em coming.
Quote from: dragonslayer808 on June 01, 2009, 09:27:35 PM
My armor is a work in progress, I use it both for Faire and Screams so it must be user friendly. Don't want anyone injured by accidental contact in the dark. I have made all of it myself up until the face piece upgrade 2 years ago. That I commisioned to a very talented artist Jen Harrison. I plan on more upgrades before Screams this year and will be wearing it to TRF in November.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/Dragonslayer808/P1010429.jpg)(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/Dragonslayer808/P1010430.jpg)
I am half blind when not wearing my prescription sunglasses so make sure you stop me if you see me so I can check that armor out. Looking good.
Looking at this makes me curious, especially since I'm not a Faire-goer.
Has 'Renaissance Faire' come to mean a catch all term for a place to wear any sort of costume? Some of ChrisB's outfits are way cool and very well done, but certainly not 'Renaissance'. So what's the deal?
Very interested-
Gwen
Quote from: Gwen on September 11, 2009, 12:02:19 PM
Looking at this makes me curious, especially since I'm not a Faire-goer.
Has 'Renaissance Faire' come to mean a catch all term for a place to wear any sort of costume? Some of ChrisB's outfits are way cool and very well done, but certainly not 'Renaissance'. So what's the deal?
Very interested-
Gwen
First off, my armor was collected and made with the intent to keep it as historically accurate as possible and prior to me ever stepping foot in a fair. It spawned out of a fascination with military history.
Our fair, the Texas Renaissance Festival, has themed weekends throughout the 8 week run, and personally, I only wear the sets on weekends in which they would relate. Ie....
Roman Bachannal - Roman Armor
Barbarian Invasion - Viking Armor
Celtic Christmas - Medieval Armor
The Japanese set of armor is in fact 16th century and there are clear documented cases of Samurai in Europe during the 1500's although I will be the first to admit they wouldn't have been in armor on their visits.
I think it all boils down to personal taste and the overall theme of the fair. Our fair has fairies, barbarians, transylvanians, the normal courts of the period, conquistadors, American Indians, pirates, and the likes that span many time periods if you want to really get technical. It is all in fun, and I do not think most people look or care as much about being perfectly period unless you are on performance company.
*****EDIT*****
Gwen, I know exactly who you are now. ;D If you look at my clothing carefully, you'll see that several items are bought from Historic Enterprises and specifically you. I love my Viking clothing from you guys..... I edited out the earlier statement since I know it's a legitimate question.
Granted, we haven't worked a show since 2005 but did 8 years at the same one and I think probably to an extent yes. I don't think your likely to see a cowboy anytime soon but faire attendees have certainly become movie driven in thier costume choices to an extent. The pirate thing is everywhere due to POTC, loads of people dressing in the highly stereotyped Hollywood version of pirates and many faires have a pirates weekend now because of it. Men in kilts became huge after Braveheart ( again a huge Hollywood stereotype, the Scotts would have looked very much like the English they fought in terms of clothing, not all running about kilts with woad on ) and remian popular. While we saw the odd Merlin, with the comming of LOTR, there were Gandalfs, rangers, elves and fairies all over the place. There are still plenty of folks looking to do some sort of period look but the 2000's have seen movie driven looks become as common as period looks on the faire scene.
Hi Chris-
I hope my question didn't come across as snotty, because I didn't mean it to. I am genuinely curious!!
I get orders all the time for [14th C, 15th C, Viking, fill in the blank] 'for the Renaissance Faire' and it just seems a little unusual to me so I thought I'd ask.
It's not the blatantly fantasy stuff (which has always been there to one degree or another) so much as the non-Renaissance, really well done period outfits like yours that made me curious. I suppose though that if you don't belong to a reenactment group, there's not much opportunity to wear kit like that, but if the Renaissance faire allows it, it gives you someplace to show it off.
And to go back, I was serious-your stuff looks great, whether any f it came from me or not, you've clearly put a lot of time and effort into it and it shows.
Too bad you're so far away, I'm sure any of the groups participating in the Festival of History at the Tournament of the Phoenix would welcome you with open arms.
Gwen
Gwen
Thanks for the remarks. I still am drooling over Jeff's work and hope one day to buy an Italo-Milanese from him. 5 kids has put a hamper on that for now though..... :o
I do belong to the Roman group here in Texas, but I just don't have a lot of free time to go to a lot of their events. They are leading the parade at TRF this year for Roman weekend, but I cannot participate in that because I am performing with one of the dance troupes as the violinist. I just outfitted a friend with my best Scutum to date and am a little envious that my work is going to get its debut on someone else. He is really excited about his new Roman impression though so it makes me happy for him.
'[I'm] a little envious that my work is going to get its debut on someone else.'
Welcome to my world!! :D
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v77/120/110/593316207/n593316207_268375_8416.jpg)
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2060/120/110/593316207/n593316207_2426966_8791.jpg)
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(http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs008.snc1/4175_97157376207_593316207_3033346_3763741_n.jpg)
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v282/120/110/593316207/n593316207_1436286_3512.jpg)
I never -ever- wear the things I make, and probably only a dozen people in the world could point to these and say 'this is Gwen's work'. I'm my own best kept secret. ;)
But like you, it gives me a lot of pleasure to see people enjoying the things I produce, so it's all good.
Gwen
That is absolutely gorgeous work. I didn't realize you did that much custom work. We may need to talk at some future point next year. ;) Seriously, that is amazing work!
Quote from: ALS on September 11, 2009, 02:08:25 PM
I don't think your likely to see a cowboy anytime soon
Saw two gunslingers at MDRF Labor Day weekend: bowlers caps, pinstripe grey pants, riding boots, suit vests, gun belts with drop holsters strapped to their thighs (no guns, Faire not weapons friendly) - straight out of Wyatt Erp or Tombstone, only a few years out of period.
Ughhhh
Hi Robert-
So I take it you didn't like the gunslingers. Would you mind if I asked why? Do you find Chris' Roman or Dark Ages impression equally jarring? Assuming that 'Renaissance' is the starting point for the Fair (1500 or so), a gunslinger (1880) would be less OOP than a Roman (500BC to 500AD).
Sorry I'm asking so many questions, I'm really fascinated by all aspects of the dressing up in costume game!
Gwen
Quote from: Gwen on September 18, 2009, 09:34:57 AM
So I take it you didn't like the gunslingers. Would you mind if I asked why? Do you find Chris' Roman or Dark Ages impression equally jarring? Assuming that 'Renaissance' is the starting point for the Fair (1500 or so), a gunslinger (1880) would be less OOP than a Roman (500BC to 500AD).
Because it's a medieval renaissance faire and there is nothing that can be construed as medieval about cowboys. I think it is more about what fits in and adds to the atmosphere and intent of the faire rather than how far off period the costume is. Swords and armor (with some exceptions) fit in much better than cowboys with six-shooters.
I know the question was directed at Robert but I answer because I believe he is referring to my home faire (Mi Ren Fest) and he is also a friend so I don't think he will mind me giving my opinion.
Thanks for having my back, Jay. It wasn't MiRF but MdRF, but your point is right on what I was thinking.
Anytime. By the way, I finished the new black armor just in time to wear it for the last day of faire last Sunday. I forgot to get a good close up shot but I'll try to load up what I have and get them on here ASAP.
Very cool kits everyone. Here's mine. it's Hungarian Leather Armor 1300's to early Renaissance. Bought at Pyramid Leather at MiRF,.(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e271/PoldugarianWarrior/20060827_1641487618_ex.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3539/3456868063_0b4a025ee9_m.jpg)
;D
Quote from: Chris B on April 23, 2009, 01:38:19 PM
1st Century AD Roman Legionnaire
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/001.jpg)
I'd like to recommend a book for your collection, if you don't have it already.
LEGIONARY: The Roman Soldier's Unofficial Manual by
Philip MatyszakIt's hilarious. It reads like a combination of Recruiting pamphlet and Field Manual to give the reader a look at Roman Legionnaire history. It has plenty of illustrations, and color photos of some reenactors.
Poldugarian,
I think I have seen your work on My Armory before. You have posted there a bit too right? Love the kit, it is awesome.
Armored Saint,
That is a very nice set-up too.
I wish I could see more of all of your kits up close and personal. I know that pictures don't do this stuff justice most the time.
Warrior Monk,
Thanks.
Since you posted the Roman picture again and that Scutum makes me feel like I am going to vomit, here are the three Scuta I finished a month ago with an Augustan and Republican era Scutum in process. I have a full sized shield press now and finally have perfected the shaping instead of that ugly abomination in the picture above. I mean it was one of the first shields I ever made 5 years ago so it was a good attempt, but it looks horrible against the new batch.
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/l_4ddeddb37ad9477c8d6931f8e113f096.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/l_327414b3c4924f70a9460083aa637b32.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s117/cboat97/l_65ef4d6253f94deabb4e4214397245a5.jpg)
Quote from: Black Armor on September 28, 2009, 11:32:59 AM
Quote from: Gwen on September 18, 2009, 09:34:57 AM
So I take it you didn't like the gunslingers. Would you mind if I asked why? Do you find Chris' Roman or Dark Ages impression equally jarring? Assuming that 'Renaissance' is the starting point for the Fair (1500 or so), a gunslinger (1880) would be less OOP than a Roman (500BC to 500AD).
Because it's a medieval renaissance faire and there is nothing that can be construed as medieval about cowboys. I think it is more about what fits in and adds to the atmosphere and intent of the faire rather than how far off period the costume is. Swords and armor (with some exceptions) fit in much better than cowboys with six-shooters.
I know the question was directed at Robert but I answer because I believe he is referring to my home faire (Mi Ren Fest) and he is also a friend so I don't think he will mind me giving my opinion.
Quote from: robert of armstrong on October 06, 2009, 03:14:51 AM
Thanks for having my back, Jay. It wasn't MiRF but MdRF, but your point is right on what I was thinking.
I remember seeing them that day as well. I think it was near the Dragon Inn. I've noticed in the past
year or two that MDRF seems to have more playtrons trying to push the "Day of Wrong" envelope. ;)
Although I try to keep my garb within the late middle ages, I don't mind some of the occasionally more
"loose" interpretations. As long as everyone has fun and don't impose upon another patron's fun then
it's all good. Besides some folks are opposed to those who are inclined to represent the various Fae
which I can't understand such opposition since belief in supernatural beings was an integral part of
the psyche and culture even well into the industrial revolution. :-\
Now back to the topic of armor...This is my 1340's harness. I consider it to be around 90% accurate
for the timeline I was going for.
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/Guardian.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/KYRF/KYRF2009033.jpg)
@ Chris B. - You're numerous time period harnesses are excellent!
Thanks.
Pretty sure I have seen your kit at My Armoury as well. Very well done. I would have to say I am kind of partial to the phoenix myself..... ;)
Do you have a shot of the shield head on?
Thanks! :)
Here is the shield. The picture is from last year. I actually made the cross a bit thicker since this
picture.
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/VARF/08VARF_033.jpg)
Well here's the amoured Queen Elizabeth ready for battle with the whole Spanish Armada!!
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9dd22b3127ccec6d348e727de00000040O00AbtGjRqzcNWIPbz4Y/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9dd22b3127ccec6d255e0c63300000040O00AbtGjRqzcNWIPbz4Y/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9dd22b3127ccec6d2702f074600000040O00AbtGjRqzcNWIPbz4Y/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
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Quote from: Chris B on October 27, 2009, 09:28:28 AM
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Am I correct in seeing the 10th Legion here (Fretensis) stationed around Jerusalem?
Have you read the Stephen Dando-Collins series on various Legion histories? A lot of each book is repetitive, but the actual Unit history is quite interesting and makes for good motivation to play Rome Total War. ;D
Cool breast plate Elizabeth. I don't think I have seen you in at at TRF ever. Might make a cool addition for later in the year.
Warrior Monk. Yes. Our unit is based on roughly 50 AD Legio X Fretensis. I have not read that book yet, but have researched some of the history of our unit. They used the boar in several of the surviving stamps hence the boar. Terry also included the tridents and dolphin in the design due to the history of Fretensis being used in Naval battles as well.
If you don't mind me asking, what of your first Scutum did you find displeasure with? It seems it received a new paint job, an improved boss, and I can't tell, because I see both types, but some included rounded corners as opposed to the squared corners.
The main problem lies with the overall geometry of the shield. My first two attempts did not have as consistant a curve as the new ones, and they had a more tented appearance as opposed to cylindrical. The brass edging is also much cleaner with no pleating in the rounded corners and the edging has clenched nails through the tabs to the back side.
I wore it to TRF once last year, once to Scarby, and then this year once to Fourwinds. I will be wearing it later in the season this year as well, probably closing weekend one of the days. It can't be in the rain, so there's that... I'll try to stop by Shunyata when I'm wearing it next.
Chris, will you be gracing the fair with any of your rockin' warrior personas this year? It's great that your get to play violin and such, but it must suck not to get to wear your cool garb!
Yes. I will wear the Samurai set this weekend on Saturday. The only guarantee is that I will have it on me from 9:00 AM till about 11:00 AM so find me if you want to see it.
I will also be wearing my Greek Linothorax, probably both days for Roman Weekend. Look forward to seeing you then. ;D
This photo really is something atrocious, but here's my armor when it was last cited at the GV Renfest:
(http://th07.deviantart.net/fs51/300W/i/2009/291/0/d/Armor___GV_Ren_Fest_by_MetalArtisan.jpg)
I swear, my head isn't that disproportionately huge in real life. Also, ignore the underamour and bandana. It was cold.
I'm working on some upgrades/new pieces for the armor, and am hoping to have a much fuller kit together for next faire season.
Well, just getting started.
Here is a curiass and pauldron set that I have made so far...atleast I think it would be defined as such. I am sure that folks here can correct me if I am mistaken :D
Unfortunately this seems to be the best picture taken of me when wearing it :(
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Here it is by itself...
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I need only one weapon.
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w133/srstunts/Staff1SIZED.jpg)
And some chants, of course
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w133/srstunts/Mesized.jpg)
Yep, that's a cuirass and pauldron set. Very nice craftsmanship.
Quote from: Poldugarian Warrior on January 19, 2010, 10:56:52 PM
Yep, that's a cuirass and pauldron set. Very nice craftsmanship.
Thank you. I am working on a Brigintine (well a leather one, not with metal plates) right now. I will post that when I am finished with it!
Very nice Mickey. I'd definitely be interested in seeing your Brigandine when you are finished since it is something I would also like to make soon.
Merlin, bring it. ;D
Quote from: Chris B on January 22, 2010, 07:52:57 AM
Very nice Mickey. I'd definitely be interested in seeing your Brigandine when you are finished since it is something I would also like to make soon.
Merlin, bring it. ;D
Well, this is what I have so far (pardon the terrible camera)
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Georgeous stuff everyone! Really enjoy this thread and seeing what you have each put together. While it's true, Chris, a warrior visiting a faire and interacting with the Royals *might* not wear his entire kit ( is that term prefered over garb in your circle?) we ladies are sure glad that you do.
Gwen, your stuff is so beautiful. You should work up a character for yourself one day. :) Chris I had no idea you had so many armored personas. Nice to see the others sides, and Mickey, as always, nice work. :)
Quote from: Anna Iram on January 22, 2010, 10:39:16 AM
a warrior visiting a faire and interacting with the Royals *might* not wear his entire kit ( is that term prefered over garb in your circle?) we ladies are sure glad that you do.
I ran into a platoon of young men (who all looked like they were about 16, by the way, nearly broke my heart) who were in Basic Training and getting ready to go to Iraq two years ago at MdRF. They were at the Faire on their R & R weekend, and they called what I was wearing my "full battle rattle".
I have adopted the term.
Quote from: robert of armstrong on January 23, 2010, 12:51:31 AM
Quote from: Anna Iram on January 22, 2010, 10:39:16 AM
a warrior visiting a faire and interacting with the Royals *might* not wear his entire kit ( is that term prefered over garb in your circle?) we ladies are sure glad that you do.
I ran into a platoon of young men (who all looked like they were about 16, by the way, nearly broke my heart) who were in Basic Training and getting ready to go to Iraq two years ago at MdRF who were at the Faire on their R & R weekend, and they called what I was wearing my "full battle rattle".
I have adopted the term.
I like it.
Me too! :)
Haha, full battle rattle is a good term for those of you who wear more heavy duty armor to faire. I have family in the military and it is a common term and as far as I know refers to having a full pack, bullet proof vest with full plates, and your weapon with you. Training in full battle rattle is a pain the BUTT from what I hear, think it usually weighs out to about 45-50 lbs of gear.
Quote from: Barret on January 25, 2010, 02:12:37 PM
Training in full battle rattle is a pain the BUTT from what I hear, think it usually weighs out to about 45-50 lbs of gear.
I understand the guys and gals in green to be carrying around a lot more than that!! What I'm wearing is around 85-90 lbs, plus more with weapons when I am allowed to wear them.
Quote from: robert of armstrong on January 30, 2010, 11:51:45 AM
I understand the guys and gals in green to be carrying around a lot more than that!! What I'm wearing is around 85-90 lbs, plus more with weapons when I am allowed to wear them.
Could be, its been a while since I talked about it with my sister and my memory is not that great on the subject. I think it also depends on what branch of the military and what your job description is. She is intelligence so she may not carry as much as others. But 85-90 lbs... dang man, that is impressive, you can probably eat all the fried greasy faire food you want and still lose weight walking around with that kind of weight all day. But we have gotten off topic, so someone post up a picture of some sweet armor quick!
Greetings, this topic has been quiet for a while, I would like to see more armor etc :)
....I have some pictures of various shields I have made, hope to add the garb soon.(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/adventure-art/adventure%20garb/DSCF0025.jpg)
.......to continue, one picture of my Templar outfit on our display stand, last week I added a red cross to the left shoulder of the cloak .
this outfit rea(http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/adventure-art/adventure%20garb/DSCF0005.jpg)lly puts one back in time :)
BARF 2010
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Helm shot coming soon. Oh, and gauntlets......
Very basic and good looking brigadine, nice work, and the shields are very good as well. Looking into making my own Viking shield quite soon.
Love the Viking kit, Chris. Might see you around and get some pointers some day.
This is the first thing I have ever made armor wise. My take on a Viking shield. No plywood, used edge glued solid wood planks, leather and linen face, 3 cross braces and handle on the back, and leather edge with bronze clamps.
I tried to follow the period details I could find online for the actual constuction, although the color is not what you might see on a real Viking shield Trying to put together a fairly decent Viking kit for TRF's barbarian weekend.
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I have also purchased some Viking kit from Historic Enterprises, love the stuff.
I know a lot of people buy their winnegas, kyrtle, etc. from Historic Enterprise. I bought all mine there as they make extremely good quality and accurate clothing. The shield looks great. You could always paint it one of the standard Viking patterns too if you wanted. Good luck with the kit. I won't be wearing any of my stuff this year, but I will definitely keep an eye out for that new kit on barbarian weekend. :)
New first time armor(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii29/carlanddonna/Kentucky09/kentucky20100012.jpg)
Looks good your most vulnerable areas are covered, and yet you still have movement in the torso. Colors are good too. Grey and black always a good decision. The hat is very cool too, because it specifies your rank as a gentleman. Very good job. I don't think you need anymore armor, in your case less is more. Maybe, a stylized belt buckle. A dragon or bird perhaps as sort of a taliesman, but your style seems to be late renaissance where most of that sort of superstitios thinking was going by the wayside.
Thanks for the input. That is just the era I was going for. The top and pants are actualy green, Its in the shade.
I know what you mean, I have a green shirt that borders n being grey it all depends on the light your in.
Okay, I've worked up the courage to show off my very non-historical piece.
Nearly all of it I made myself, too:
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NefariousDrO , I've seen you at MiRF, I have to say that armor is very cool. it's much like the dragon hunter armor, from Dragonheart, but better and if you are hunting dragons with feathers which who knows I think there coudl be dragons with feathers. You have curious weapons too, they look like those Japanese/Chinese hook like weapons, I believe they're called Kamas. Nonetheless your armor is almost like something a warrior shaman would wear, so not so entirely non-historic. Great Job.
Nefarious,
That is some pretty cool looking armor. It may not be historical, but if you like it that is the best thing. I see alot of non-historical or fantasy armor at faires and most of it doesn't look nearly as good, so great job!
Thanks! The scales are all resin, I cast them in a silicone-rubber mold I made, the claws are also resin with a very small amount of water so that it foams when it sets. The head-gear is all leather. The concept came a little bit from Aztec/Mayan feathered serpent myths.
Resin is risky, it's strong if thick enough, but can be brittle. That's pretty neat, I thought the whole of your armor was leather. Thanks for the info.
Bought my armor back in January and finally took some time to get a few pictures taken. Wanted to ask the advice of a few people here who are more informed about armor as well.
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You'll notice large unprotected spots and that is something I was aiming for. Mobility was a bigger concern than complete protection on this setup. I love the way it all fits but I do need to find something to hold these silly straps down because they do flap a bit much.
With the way my pauldrons are set up is there is a strap to hold it onto my arm. Any suggestions on how I can wear a sleeveless shirt?
Looks quite good, the same idea as mine, protect only the most vulnerable spots and provide mobility. I like the design, and color. The brown and green compliment each other quite well, as will any primary color shirt. The straps flopping about can only be handled by putting small straps as you would see on a waist belt around the main strap, and looping the remaining hanging part through it just like a belt worn around the waist. But, on a smaller scale. I don't know about sleeveless you may run into chafing concerns, but maybe a short sleeved shirt would do. You could also create straps running from the pauldrons to the straps holding up your cuirass, and attach them with Chicago screws or rivets, so that you won't have to tie your pauldrons on. Next idea, would be a design of your liking on the cuirass if your into that styling. The greaves and foot armor are very good as well. So your an axeman/woodsman, now you need a helmet, or just an arming cap, and you'll be complete. Good work.
Quote from: Poldugarian Warrior on August 12, 2010, 12:36:07 AM
Looks quite good, the same idea as mine, protect only the most vulnerable spots and provide mobility. I like the design, and color. The brown and green compliment each other quite well, as will any primary color shirt. The straps flopping about can only be handled by putting small straps as you would see on a waist belt around the main strap, and looping the remaining hanging part through it just like a belt worn around the waist. But, on a smaller scale. I don't know about sleeveless you may run into chafing concerns, but maybe a short sleeved shirt would do. You could also create straps running from the pauldrons to the straps holding up your cuirass, and attach them with Chicago screws or rivets, so that you won't have to tie your pauldrons on. Next idea, would be a design of your liking on the cuirass if your into that styling. The greaves and foot armor are very good as well. So your an axeman/woodsman, now you need a helmet, or just an arming cap, and you'll be complete. Good work.
I have enough knowledge bumps on my head a helmet isn't going to do much good in protecting hehe. Nothing left to save! As to the pauldron straps I was thinking about lining the insides with a thin layer of something soft. Would like to stick with natural fibers because I've fallen in love with how well they breathe. I plan on changing the bracers out as well since they are a bit to tough for comfortable wear. May try and find either a similar brown coloring or black half bracers with buckles (I'm spoiled).
Yeah, maybe some hare's fur or even coyote to line them, but use very thin strips, unless you don't mind the archaic look of fur. There's nothing wrong with fur just saying if you want to make it look renaissance use it sparingly. I'd say keep the color brown, not trying to sway your decision from black just because I wear black armor, but the brown looks good. I see where you'd want to go with shorter bracers yours are a bit long, maybe just cut down the existing ones you have or use leather softening agents they may make them easier to wear and the leather will flex just enough to be comfortable, and set them up with buckles. And believe me buckles are the way to go. I have the lace-up type and I struggle with them evrytime. But, they'd look goofy now with all the holes if I got buckles for them. Well, good luck hope these additional tips help.
Bran Gray, your stuff looks great. Another brother to the world of brown leather armor. I agree with the P.W. on at least two accounts -
First, keep you bracers, and either trim them down, or have them trimmed, the cost should be nothing near a new set, and what you have looks like it is tooled with lines than run the length, to match those in your greaves. They look great together. You can take the trimmed bracers to a goalie equipment repair place and they will rivet straps with buckles onto the bracers for you. I did it with a pair here in Barrie (Ontario) but its pricey, $25 per strap set; the three straps and buckles cost me $75.
Second, stay away from wearing formed leather armor over bare skin. You will either chafe yourself into submission, or through the day your sweat will cause the dye to run and you will have an uneven instant tan in areas of your shoulders and upper arms. Not a good look
Finally got a few shots of my new helm up. These are from my trip to Sterling's opening weekend.
A candid, on my way for a turkey leg:
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Me with my buddy, Brent. He got a new helm too.
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A close up of the detailing on the jaw pieces of mine:
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And a side shot of Brent's dragon wings
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Those helms look awesome!
And this coming from a person who has never really liked helmets or hats of any kind. I think I will take your advice on getting the bracers trimmed down. I am just south of Houston so finding a shop of some kind that does leather repairs or modifications shouldn't be a problem.
As to the leather dye giving me an uneven tan I know exactly what you're talking about. I think that I'll have to do is go shopping for a new shirt when I go to TRF later on this year. Something close to a modern day t-shirt that will cover up the upper portion of my arms but keep it free enough I won't sweat myself to death in this lovely Texas heat.
Those helms, just look mean. Inpenetrable to say the least with all those rivets. Very nice work. Also, I found I've worn my bracers without sleeves and I never had problems with chafing, but the sweat seeps into the leather and creates a stench, which then must be cleaned with saddle soap and polish. A minor inconvenience, but an inconvenience nonetheless. So yes, always cover the bare skin.
Quote from: bran_gray on August 26, 2010, 01:40:49 PM
I think that I'll have to do is go shopping for a new shirt when I go to TRF later on this year. Something close to a modern day t-shirt that will cover up the upper portion of my arms but keep it free enough I won't sweat myself to death in this lovely Texas heat.
I wear a variety of Nike Dryfit, CoolMax and other similar long sleeve shirts in black under my armor, but the maille covers my upper body and arms down to the forearm, then overlap my bracers so that the shirts are always covered by a layer of something and are not obvious.
The maille really protects me from the chaffing of the leather, and gives me a layer so that when I sweat, the leather isn't touching me and doesn't get wet and the dye run. The shirt then protects me from the maille so I don't get skin pinches or arm hairs torn out- the rings are butted, not welded (that would be nice) or riveted (oooh, I wish!!).
The black also gives the grey/silver of the maille something of a background to stand out against. It wouldn't do to have a t-shirt sleeve hanging down out of the end of the armour, and the maille solves this nicely, while completing the look, and I think looking AWESOME at the same time, but not everyone is willing to use this 60-65 pound solution.
I'm with you, I bought a gambeson to go under my maille, and I don't regret it. A bit warm but well worth it, especially after wearing the maile and armor all day. It helps cusion your body from the weight of the armor.
Rather lousey iphone pick from TRF last weekend. I has just closed the van door and turned towards the camera.
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Good looking armor though, very basic, just like soemthing you'd see in an illuminated manuscript well done.
Thanks. The some of those manuscripts, sagas, and Bayeux Tapestry have been a huge help. Although, I added some non h/a stuff because I like it better :D
I am looking to add some torso protection when I have some spare change to drop. Not sure if I want to get ring or lamellar.
Depends on what part of Europe your character is from, or what type of warrior you wish to emulate. If Central and Eastern Europe go with lamellar. If from any other part of western Europe go with ring. I just read a Osprey book on Medieval Polish Armies and most lamellar was from the eastern parts of Europe. Both types are quite expensive, but one is more comfortable to wear than the other. I think even if you just kept with the chain-mail you'd be quite in period.
New joust armor, which will be used in the Knights of Iron joust at the Silver Leaf Renaissance Faire in 2011
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Close up
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We can't wait! Hope to see you there!
L. Dale Walter
Director
Knights of Iron
Shiny! ;D
Dale, nice rig, who's the maker? I don't know if it was designed to do so but historically the gorget is worn under the breast and back plate like this http://www.myarmoury.com/albums/displayimage.php?pid=2237&fullsize=1 and this http://www.myarmoury.com/albums/displayimage.php?pid=2238&fullsize=1
The armor was made by Andre Sinou's team at Icefalcon armory. We had just got the armor, and were experimenting with gorget/cuirasse combinations, to determine best movement, and to cover the holes in the left side for grand guard and buff. We have determined that under is not only correct historically, but works better. HOWEVER, on a late 15th century kit, there really shouldn't be a gorget at all, but some allowances are made for safety.
We also pulled the cuirasse higher on the body to allow for better waist movement on the horse. We are now working with arming doublets to determine if attaching pauldrons to gorget (it has tabs to do so) or going right to the arming points on the doublet works better. Additional strapping has been added on the cuisses, as the knees were gaping (as shown in the picture). Other straps were trimmed as they were left long for fitting.
We kind of rushed these pictures, but needed some for a promo package. Next set will be more exacting, but these are cool, I think!
Hey Dale, Andre does great work and his rep is rock solid. You're correct in large part about the gorget. I seen two very late ( 1490-1500 ) original gothic suits disassembled into constituent parts that had a simple base plate gorget without neck lames seemingly used to do nothing more than hang pauldrons from rather than pointing and theres this harness http://www.myarmoury.com/albums/displayimage.php?pid=1967&fullsize=1 a late 15th century Italian export example that you can see the gorget under the bevor. I've seen perhaps two other examples that I can remember and all were like this one very late. The norm for most all of the century was a maille standard, or bevor, or wrap plate in the case of an armet without neck/gorget lames.
Andre's work speaks for itself, you should still be beating the daylights out of this harness in ten years.
My God, Dale that looks awesome.
Thanks Robert! You will have to make it out to Silver Leaf to see us joust this season. It's going to be great!
Dale
And mounted
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I have armor for Brenin as well, but I have not adjusted all of the straps for it yet, so he just had a saddle on. We also have comparisons coming for all of the horses in the show, but they are in production.
Brenin is an amazing horse. In my opinion, he is the perfect joust mount. Not too tall, not too short, heavily muscled, moves like the wind, and LOVES hitting things! His only problem is that right now, with his fuzzy fuzzy winter coat, he looks like a yak!
L. Dale Walter
Director
Knights of Iron
I just saw the joust at Silverleaf this year, pretty good show even though I only caught a bit of it. The armor looks awesome, and as far as being historically accurate, it looks fine to me. And the wearing of the gorget in or out should be up to the person wearing the armor. I would think most warriors wear their armor as most comfortable as a fashion to facilitate it's use for protection and still be able to move fluidly enough to perform combat duties. All in all, hope to see you this year at Silverleaf.
QuoteAnd the wearing of the gorget in or out should be up to the person wearing the armor.
Surely agree with that my only point was that historically it seems to have been pretty much concluded that under was the most comfortable and protective http://www.myarmoury.com/albums/displayimage.php?pid=2237&fullsize=1 http://www.myarmoury.com/albums/displayimage.php?pid=2238&fullsize=1 http://www.myarmoury.com/albums/displayimage.php?pid=4296&fullsize=1 http://www.myarmoury.com/albums/displayimage.php?pid=1896&fullsize=1 http://www.myarmoury.com/albums/displayimage.php?pid=1206&fullsize=1
and perhaps it might be more comfortable for Dale. There were several reasons for wearing it under protection being one and the one even more pertinant for Dale given his application for use. If the gorget is worn above the point of a weapon, in this case a lance and then depending on how thw ground show is done swords and possibly axes can get beneath the gorget base plates allowing access to the now unprotected neck, when the gorget is worn under this possible " opening " in the defense is removed. Second, the gorget often acted as the attachement point for shoulder defenses and arm harness, with the gorget above the breast plate this plateform for attachement can move around causing both arm and shoulder defenses to shift around in undesirable ways. With the gorget under the breast plate the weight of the B&B plates via thier straps running across the gorget base plates keeps the gorget in position and this the arm and shoulder defenses. Having maintained the armour for the jousting company that does the Sterling faire for 9 seasons from '97 to '05 when we had a booth there under the B&B plates was the ubiquitous method all thier guys used so I kinda figured they might have found that to work best for modern jousting applications. Can't speak to walking around the faire as they didn't do that in harness for the show.
The gorget is actually being redone, as it just wasn't working in either capacity, over or under. Kept choking us. Our pauldrons (shoulders) can attach to either the gorget, or the arming doublet. The vambraces (arm armor) attaches to the arming doublet.
We also have a buff that bolts to the front of the armor if we want more neck protection.
Our jousts have no ground fighting component. Our belief is that people came to see jousting, so that is what we give them.
We are also NOT the group that did the jousting at Silver Leaf last year. That was Charlie Andrews's Knights of Mayhem.
L. Dale Walter
Director
Knights of Iron
Dale, is the gorget riding up say when the arms are raised and causing the issue or is it causing a problem regardless of the position of the body/arms?
Gorget is a problem no matter what we do. It's just too high.
Andre has the armor back and is correcting the problem. I think in the goal of providing really complete protection we got a little too complete, and movement got compromised. Back in a week or so and all will be well...
LDW
I see in your initial pic of the harness that the front and back neck lames aren't latched together. I'm wondering how thick the articulating leathers for these two lames are. Sometimes the articulating leathers can take some time to break in and can cause discomfort until they do so.Once borken in they become nice and squishy. Andre will sort it out for you. His rep is sterling.
Movement on the leathers is fine. It's just that the gorget wasn't flexing quite right. Andre is fixing it to the way we want it to work. No worries. He is first class!
LDW
Some great pics in this thread.
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This one is courtesy of Angus Macinnes.
The great helm, shield, best sword and axe were at home, resting.
I don't blame you, chain mail and great helms get hot and heavy. But, nonetheless I can still tell your a night, just on leave for the moment, nice pic.
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2012 version.
Quote from: Archer on August 10, 2011, 11:02:10 AM
Some great pics in this thread.
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This one is courtesy of Angus Macinnes.
The great helm, shield, best sword and axe were at home, resting.
I can't help but think "He chose...poorly" when I see this pic. Love it. And all the rest of you guys' armor. It is some amazing work!!!
Dale - I love your horse!
Quote from: Serenity on May 21, 2012, 12:39:04 PM
I can't help but think "He chose...poorly" when I see this pic. Love it. And all the rest of you guys' armor. It is some amazing work!!!
LOL That didn't even cross my mind until you said it but its perfect!
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Some things are sweeter with age. 8)
I have been away from this thread for way too long. Playing violin, work and other commitments have kept me preoccupied with other passions. I love the additional sets that have been posted over the past two years. I never get tired of seeing other people's visions and sets. I mean, it is not like most people have armor anymore so seeing a good set-up is always cool.
Crashbot - That Viking persona is coming along well. I would say go with maille if given the choice since there is still a lot of debate over lamellar and the ring is better documented. Then you could always use it for reenacting should you ever chose to use it outside of fairs. I am curious where you ended up getting your helmet and boots. I am guessing Alan (Merc Tailor) for the spanghen helm and Armlann for the boots? Where did you end up getting your sword? Regardless, the kit is looking nice and you seriously need to tell me the weekend you will wear it this year. It would be nice to have a fellow Viking to walk around with some on Barbarian weekend since we are not performing anymore.
Alan - In case you are still lurking, I am really sorry about your business. Your works are some of my most prized posessions in my collection.
Archer - The older you get, the more you actually look the part of a seasoned knight. I just will probably never bring myself to have longer hair than current military or Roman military standards. Your kit is very nice.
Dale - What can I say that has not already been said. Very nice kit, but to be fair, you do that for a living. ;) I wish we saw full plate mounted at fairs more often. It is such an eye catcher.