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Title: English Fitted Gown~ Because I Need to Plan Something~~
Post by: Cilean on June 25, 2010, 11:48:08 PM


I need to work on something,  I need to plan, and I had picked up this pattern from Reconstructing History. This will not fit me as the largest size is 5 inches too small in my middle and so I will be Toileing the crap of this to make it work, I also? Don't like the kirtle which to me? Looks like Henrician kirtle, and really? I don't know to my eyes like the correct time period so I am going to make my Kirtle from my Margo Pattern.  


So here is the pattern I will be using for the overgown:
(https://www.reconstructinghistory.com/image_lib/FlandersGowncover.jpg)

Kirtles I have found on the net that I will be working from:
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Qz7oK8zzxoY/SRCO6pJBQpI/AAAAAAAABBE/CQUpNNMMO9Y/s400/splendorsoliskirtle_frontside7.jpg)

Sarah Lorraine's Wool Kirtle:
(http://www.modehistorique.com/portfolio/16thc/chocolate/DSCF4914.jpg)                                    (http://www.modehistorique.com/portfolio/16thc/chocolate/DSCF4925.jpg)

Dame Drea's Kirtle
(http://www.elizabethancostume.net/wardrobe/dublet/kirtle1.jpg)

From 2008 Drea Talk:
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_DmjLsKiy9Ww/SCjv62umX2I/AAAAAAAAA18/mT4s17gG32k/s512/DSCI0113.JPG)
Now this one is different as it is a Petticoat with Bodies.

A Side Laced Kirtle:
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_P3kJjgclJNA/RmNsKSxdSdI/AAAAAAAAAAM/ykLVJcm8fq4/s1600-h/Cat+in+Brown)

I have this luscious 100% deep Aubergine Linen, that I have made the Tunic from so I don't have to worry this is all mine now!
It is just about 4 yards but it is 61" wide.

I have 7 yards of 100% Linen in Gray, and I want to put black as trim on that (yep, typical, eh?).  Why Linen? 105 degree heat in No Cali and I do not handle heat very well.   I will be using lining of Duck Cloth in white, for the bodice and there will be boning adding to the bodice, I will box pleat the gown's skirt to the bodice, and then get to play with the Gray Linen to make the gown.  If this works? I have some burnt orange and reddish/purple linen that I think will compliment each other very nicely for another gown.

Musings
Cilean





Title: Re: English Fitted Gown~ Because I Need to Plan Something~~
Post by: gem on June 26, 2010, 01:00:41 AM
Centuries made a beautiful English fitted gown from the Tudor Tailor pattern (IIRC). She has pictures posted in the Finished Projects thread.

Good luck with this! I absolutely love this look, but Milord calls it "prudish."  ::)
Title: Re: English Fitted Gown~ Because I Need to Plan Something~~
Post by: Kate XXXXXX on June 26, 2010, 01:43:04 AM
Watch it with the RH patterns: there are fit issues with some and I've had to redraft bits of others to make them work.  Make a toile and fit carefully.  Oh, and watch the sizing!  Some of the larger sizes for women can be inaccurately drafted.  I had one that was three inches shorter round the waist than the stated pattern size measurement.  And this was over a corset laced to the stated pattern size.
Title: Re: English Fitted Gown~ Because I Need to Plan Something~~
Post by: Cilean on June 26, 2010, 03:05:00 AM

Reconstructing History's quality,

I sometimes think because she is a very smallish person, not over a size 10 I don't think she is.  Then she is using pattern drafting program but since she is not a big person and really does not work with beta testers perhaps she misses the point on those of us who are larger?  When I made her Jacket Pattern I wanted to kill myself and then her, because it was NOT anywhere near the size it should have been.  so I am making a toile as soon as I finish the kirtle. 

She does however have better sewing instructions, since the last time I bought from her.  I notice people who are from a size 8 to a 14 are fine, I was on the great pattern guide and it seems this is so....who knows eh?

But thank you I shall be making up a toile and using it to fit before I ever cut good fabric.

I remember when I would use cut and made do, I was so naive back then! And wasted so much lovely fabric too!

Cilean