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Title: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: Delireus on August 16, 2010, 01:51:03 PM
Hello all. I think you guys can agree with me when I say that a lot of times, at faire, I can tell where someone bought their garb from. You can recognize a moresca on the spot, usually. I was at OK renfest a few months ago and I think it got on my boyfriend's nerves with how many times I pointed out a Damsel in this Dress bodices to him that others were wearing. My point is, because I've been looking at garb for so long, deciding which is my favorite and such, a lot of the time I can tell where the person got it from. 

KC renfest is coming up and they just released photos for a press release on facebook. Really great pics I must say, but a few of the ladies garb stood out to me. I really love it but I don't know where they got it from, if they even did buy it. It's very possibly they had it custom made or made it themselves. They aren't tagged in the photos to protect their identity so I can't ask them till September when faire starts if I even see them. Have you guys seen anything like this?

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs253.snc4/39967_418816893530_109822298530_4778404_1151612_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs363.snc4/44649_418816933530_109822298530_4778406_2399647_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs183.ash2/44649_418816938530_109822298530_4778407_6190309_n.jpg)

I think they're adorable! Maybe they did have them made and someone recognizes the pattern? Thanks for any help :)
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: DonaCatalina on August 16, 2010, 03:47:36 PM
This is custom work, though I do recognize the fabrics.
Looks like this pattern
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mq3W1QflcU4/TDzCZrY2NcI/AAAAAAAAD4A/UFMjWgkNPck/s1600/mary+jacket+drawing+72.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: Kate XXXXXX on August 17, 2010, 03:05:12 AM
That looks like a great pattern.  Who sells it?
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: DonaCatalina on August 17, 2010, 05:15:41 AM
I'm not sure, but both these people mention using it. 17th century is alas, not one I know much about.
http://americanduchess.blogspot.com/2010/07/mary-spencers-17th-c-jacket-toile.html
http://isiswardrobe.blogspot.com/2009/10/its-fun-to-be-lemming.html
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: Elennare on August 17, 2010, 12:16:52 PM
Are you sure it's that pattern?  It looks to me like they are wearing some sort of short jacket over a skirted bodice/corset.

Very cool garb, either way. :)
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: GirlChris on August 17, 2010, 01:01:49 PM
It doesn't look like that pattern at all, to me.

The jackets in the pictures shown have tall, grown on collars and bucket cuffs. They end under the bust, like a bolero or a Regency "Spencer Jacket."

The pattern shown has no collar, no cuffs and ends at the hip.

If you look at the yellow outfit in the bottom picture, you can see the separation of jacket and bodice quite clearly, because of the swag of jewelery that goes under the jacket. You can also make out that there is a seam line in the bodice at the waist. So this is a basic bodice with very long peplum skirting attached.

Unfortunately, I've never seen this design before, so I can't help with finding the manufacturer. The closest I've seen is the Damsel in This Dress pirate coat corset. http://www.damseldress.com/
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: DonaCatalina on August 17, 2010, 01:50:08 PM
Quote from: Elennare on August 17, 2010, 12:16:52 PM
Are you sure it's that pattern?  It looks to me like they are wearing some sort of short jacket over a skirted bodice/corset.

Very cool garb, either way. :)
I believe its a custom alteration. The neckline and the tucked in waist are the main similarities.
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: Delireus on August 17, 2010, 02:27:09 PM
yeah I can see it being something like that pattern too, but with alterations.

GirlChris - I saw the similarities to Damsel in this Dress right away also, thats what so intrigued me because i love the bodice + pirate coat thing so much :)

Thanks a lot for everyone's help, I shall have to ask the ladies come KC renfest.
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: gem on August 17, 2010, 03:07:57 PM
Quote from: Delireus on August 17, 2010, 02:27:09 PM
GirlChris - I saw the similarities to Damsel in this Dress right away also, thats what so intrigued me because i love the bodice + pirate coat thing so much :)

They reminded me of their work, too--but SOOO much more flattering, since they're not underbust!
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: Elennare on August 18, 2010, 11:12:50 AM
Ya know, I think Simplicity has something on the order of this.  One of their Pirates of the Carribbean patterns.  I'm quite sure it would need to be tweaked a lot, but it might be an easily available starting point?

...I was going to link to it for you, but Simplicity seems to have redesigned their website, and for some reason it's only letting me look at the new for fall 2010 patterns.  :-\
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: gypsylakat on August 18, 2010, 07:50:16 PM
did you mean this one from simplicity that we were talking about?
http://www.renaissancefestival.com/forums/index.php?topic=12694.0
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: wildthingjew on August 19, 2010, 08:08:53 AM
just a thought, wouldn't ya think that if the pics are posted on the kc ren faire site that the clothes are from a vendor there this year?
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: Elennare on August 19, 2010, 09:24:52 AM
Quote from: gypsylakat on August 18, 2010, 07:50:16 PM
did you mean this one from simplicity that we were talking about?
http://www.renaissancefestival.com/forums/index.php?topic=12694.0

Yeah, I think that was the one I was thinking of.  I also think I was mixing parts of it with this one in my head.
http://www.simplicity.com/p-1949-costumes.aspx

Could also try this one of these for the bodice:
http://butterick.mccall.com/b4669-products-6871.php?page_id=385
http://mccallpattern.mccall.com/m4107-products-1009.php?page_id=493
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: Delireus on August 19, 2010, 07:49:03 PM
Well I went to a little deal KC renfest had last night, a mini faire thing to get the cast use to performing in front of an audience. It was really cool and I saw these same 3 women but they never came up to my boyfriend and I so I decided I would go ask them.

I told one of the woman how much I loved their garb and how I saw it on the KC renfest facebook page and asked her if she had it made or bought it. Sadly I don't think she got out of character because she said something like "My friend made it, she lives right around here but works in the brothel" and I said does she have a shop here, is she a vendor? and she kept up her character and said no she's a seamstress or something like that. She was really nice and I assume a friend of hers did make it but she just wouldn't tell me if it was a pattern or what. But, credit to her for staying in character! They looked even better in real life compaired to the pictures.
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: gypsylakat on August 21, 2010, 08:09:46 PM
maybe you could ask the facebook admin to ask them?
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: gem on August 22, 2010, 11:32:08 AM
KCRF is the Kansas City Renaissance Festival, and this isn't the work of any vendor there I recognize. Plus our cast doesn't usually wear off-the-rack garb--I'm sure they don't want playtrons popping into a shop and buying the same thing the cast members are wearing!
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: dragongirl on August 22, 2010, 12:32:33 PM
This looks like custom work but it is also similar to items from the Crows Nest and Scallywags at NYRF.  Here is the link: http://thecrowsnest.net/default.aspx
Good luck!
Title: Re: Do you recognize this garb?
Post by: Nailin on August 29, 2010, 01:38:18 AM
i wish someone knew who they were - that garb is to die for and would love to be a pirate for a day!