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Title: Veil materials
Post by: Philomel on November 13, 2010, 12:10:10 PM
Can I get away with bridal tulle?  I love that it doesn't need a hem...
Title: Re: Veil materials
Post by: ArielCallista on November 13, 2010, 02:44:10 PM
thats actually pretty common...most store bought veils are just a really fine very lightweight version of bridal tulle
Title: Re: Veil materials
Post by: Rani Zemirah on November 13, 2010, 08:32:36 PM
Assuming that you're using it for a bridal veil...  If you're wanting it for something else you might need to consider another type of material.  Bellydance veils are generally silk, while face veils are often very sheer chiffon. Hat veils are commonly done in tulle, though, and there are several different types, from very fine to very large open "weave"... just depending on the use you need it for.
Title: Re: Veil materials
Post by: ArielCallista on November 14, 2010, 04:09:23 AM
Rani is right...I was assuming you meant bridal veils lol
Title: Re: Veil materials
Post by: Cilean on November 15, 2010, 09:40:06 PM



Might I suggest very thin Voile or very thin Silk? Even Organza would be a better option.  Thai Silks has several lovely veil thicknesses, some as low as $2.35 per yard and they are 3 momme so I guess that is a gauze, they also have chiffon which is if I remember a 6 Momme.
www.thaisilks.com (http://www.thaisilks.com)


Cilean


Title: Re: Veil materials
Post by: GirlChris on November 16, 2010, 09:30:42 AM
There's a whole lot of things that are called "Veils." What are you looking for?

There's bridal veils, veils that attach to french or gable hoods, medieval veils that cover the hair and/or neck, and belly dancing veils which don't cover very much at all. Nuns wear veils, many Muslim women weir veils, and some western women wear them while in mourning.
Title: Re: Veil materials
Post by: DonaCatalina on November 16, 2010, 10:17:30 AM
silk gauze (http://www.dharmatrading.com/fabric/silk/gauze.html) is probably the best choice if you are doing large veils for medieval/renaissance wear.
For the veil on the back of a french hood, I would recommend black silk charmeause. (http://www.dharmatrading.com/fabric/silk/charmeuse.html)
Title: Re: Veil materials
Post by: Lady Kathleen of Olmsted on November 20, 2010, 11:47:12 PM
Here is a good source for Hat Vieling.

http://www.judithm.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=ca75dc47bf817f098841f55b94790a11 (http://www.judithm.com/shop/?page=shop/browse&category_id=ca75dc47bf817f098841f55b94790a11)
Title: Re: Veil materials
Post by: operafantomet on November 21, 2010, 01:38:39 AM
I agree with others: bridal tulle is good for bridal veils, but not so much for historical veils. That is, if you're aiming for historical accuracy. Fine nettings did exist in the past too, but the weave was different from tulle. Alas this portrait is small, but you can see how open weave the veil of Bianca Cappello is:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/firenze3/alloricapelloembr.jpg

Weave aside, the colour of a bridal veil would also probably be white. White veils is, as far as I ca tell, uncommon in period portraits. There's a lot of head scarfs and wraps, but then we're talking fine linen. For veils, transparent silks or thicker silks and velvets seems to be the preferred choice. The transparent veils were often attached to the top of the head, as a part of the hair arrangement, and flowed down the back. For specific hats and headwear, thicker fabrics was used. The French hood is a good example.

What about finding a non-ripping fabric, if you're dreading the hemming? Or what about using fray-stop at the ends?
Title: Re: Veil materials
Post by: Rani Zemirah on November 21, 2010, 05:14:02 AM
I'm not even sure if she's still checking this thread...