Received this from the main office this morning. Official until we hear from Mr. Albert himself.
Whatever juju you have with your own personal beliefs, start working it now.
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2011 TRF Policy Changes
Fire Policy Updates Due to Extreme Drought
Due to the extreme drought and wild fire issues that have affected Grimes County and the surrounding areas, it is the position of the TRF staff that the following policies are in place in order to ensure the safety of the festival grounds, staff and patrons for the 2011 season. This policy will be in effect moving forward unless the area experiences significant rain in the coming weeks.
Camping
Grimes County Burn Ban is in Effect. This means that the TRF grounds will NOT ALLOW the following:
• Bon Fires
• Fireworks
• Open flame fires (BBQ or fire pit)
• Open Flame Heating Devices
• Smoking Materials, including cigarettes, cigars, pipes, etc.
• Colman-style fueled lighting devices (Lanterns)
TR will allow the use of:
• Electric Lighting devices
• Electric Heaters
• Generators
• Smoking in designated area
Parking Lot
• No Smoking
• No open flames
Facility
The Royal Fireworks display has been canceled for 2011 based on the burn ban notice and extreme drought conditions in Grimes County. In addition, the use of smoking materials, including cigarettes, cigars, pipes, etc. must be disposed in suitable non-combustible containers.
It looks like a cold camp this year. Luckily Beanie Weenies can be eaten cold...
I'm bummed about the fireworks, but I understand why. Wonder if they'll do anything else instead, perhaps a laser show? Not that I care much for laser shows, personally, it's just not as much fun to me as smelling gunpowder and hearing things go *bang*!, but it'd be something...
Also wonder about morning & evening cannon.
ravic, can I share this on facebook?
Wow.....that's what I was afraid of....looks like it'll be sandwiches for dinner
Quote from: Aiacha on September 15, 2011, 12:53:44 PM
ravic, can I share this on facebook?
Yes
I think it is also on the TexRenFest facebook site.
Thanks. I didn't see it on their site, but I wanted to get the word out.
Quote from: KeeperoftheBar on September 15, 2011, 12:34:07 PM
It looks like a cold camp this year. Luckily Beanie Weenies can be eaten cold...
PB and J FTW!
I know this sucks but I'd rather see this happen than faire burn down! Participants have never been allowed to have fire... we are always cold.
The thing I just know is gonna be a problem is the cigarettes. You can't put 10,000+ people on an honor system not to smoke in their own camp and dispose of them the correct way.
The amount of people carelessly tossing their butts out the window ( some I have seen ON SITE) shows that the habit of disposing it quick and easy does in fact die hard.
I just wish people who smoked would realize that it is a very real and very big danger. You want to smoke FINE but please do not burn everything down because you need some nicotine.
Simple fix... yet it doesn't seem to faze most of them.
I'm sad and happy about the fireworks.... happy cause they are a danger sad because they really are a wonderful end to the day.
Quote from: FaeHollow on September 15, 2011, 02:17:58 PM
I know this sucks but I'd rather see this happen than faire burn down! Participants have never been allowed to have fire... we are always cold.
The thing I just know is gonna be a problem is the cigarettes. You can't put 10,000+ people on an honor system not to smoke in their own camp and dispose of them the correct way.
The amount of people carelessly tossing their butts out the window ( some I have seen ON SITE) shows that the habit of disposing it quick and easy does in fact die hard.
I just wish people who smoked would realize that it is a very real and very big danger. You want to smoke FINE but please do not burn everything down because you need some nicotine.
Simple fix... yet it doesn't seem to faze most of them.
I'm sad and happy about the fireworks.... happy cause they are a danger sad because they really are a wonderful end to the day.
I mostly agree with you on this. A lot of smokers do not think or care. I, for one, make sure that I put my butts out and dispose of them in the trash as I am walking around TRF. I consider TRF just as much as my home as the next rennie, and I hate to see folks litter. Even if it is butts, it is still litter. Just do me a favor and not jump every smoker you see. Just the careless and stupid ones. :)
I wonder if a fully enclosed tent stove with spark arrest is ok?
I'm fine with people smoking. It is a free country.. go ahead smoke it up... but be a responsible smoker! :D
Quote from: FaeHollow on September 15, 2011, 02:57:56 PM
I'm fine with people smoking. It is a free country.. go ahead smoke it up... but be a responsible smoker! :D
Reminds me of
"Do you smoke after sex?"
"Don't know, never looked."
Now back to your regularly scheduled post...
Quote from: crashbot on September 15, 2011, 02:49:07 PM
I wonder if a fully enclosed tent stove with spark arrest is ok?
I would call the office & ask. However, if it has any kind of flame at all, they're probably going to say no.
All this should make Mouse rest easier. :)
Well... it's manifold cooking this year, i guess.
You would think that camp stoves would be ok... as long as the side & back shields are in place.
Ravic is the camping info listed for all camp areas? I am looking and the TRF website and don't see anything posted about the paid camping area.... yet.
Quote from: FaeHollow on September 15, 2011, 02:57:56 PM
I'm fine with people smoking. It is a free country.. go ahead smoke it up... but be a responsible smoker! :D
I agree with you 100%. All smokers need to be reponsible. And the ones who dont, need to be slapped. :D
It's a rumor for right not but it's believed that the fire burning in George Bush Park on the west side of Houston may have been started by a cigarette thrown out the window as it started by the road that runs through it. When I did smoke I was in the habit of throwing them out the window until I started a small fire in the front yard of the house I was renting...after that I would put them out in as best I could and throw the butts away later.
Quote from: Bonny Pearl on September 15, 2011, 04:49:01 PM
Ravic is the camping info listed for all camp areas? I am looking and the TRF website and don't see anything posted about the paid camping area.... yet.
Bonnie, what I posted is supposedly for everyone.
My question is why SHOULDN'T it be for the patron camp too? What gets me is yes participants are closer to the actual faire and us having fire is a bit more risky but why won't you let the people you trust to work for you have fire and let all the patrons whom you do not know or trust have fire.... so strange to me. If it is banned then it should be banned. That pesky tree line isn't much of a safeguard from fire in this drought. That said... not having fire at camp SUCKS. And as a participant my first year I was up in arms. If I were a patron I'd be pissed cause it gets so dark out there. But trust me... it isn't the end of the world to have no fire. You can in fact survive without it.
I'd be rather more pissed to be woke up at 3am with my tent on fire. The fire ban is needed when the entire environment is kindling.
This is going to make things really interesting, when we invade...I know we're going to all have to chip in for some type of electronic something for us to cook on....if we're even able to. :-\
Faire not burning is the priority and I am all for the protection of one of our beloved shires, so please don't take it the wrong way. The fires have been horrible and I am all for the prevention of them. The fire ban is a wonderful thing and I have no problem sticking my boot up some dip sticks rear if they don't deposit of their cigerette properly...
But the lack of fire could very possibly keep me and mine from coming down the first weekend of November. If the temperatures are low enough and we don't have that source of heat, then it's just not going to be an option. We're a bunch of college kids so we don't have generators and other nifty technological gadgets to keep us toasty during the colder nights.
I guess...we'll just pray for massive amounts of rain sometime between now and then. :-\
Looks like my MRE's will come in handy this year.
Oooo I forgot all about the box of MRE's I still have in the pantry! Can you say hot meal!!!
I am going to go to walmart and buy them out of handwarmers.. those things work great to warm your bed up before you go to sleep at camp and if you stick them in your socks when you go to bed you stay toasty warm all night!
Fireworks are a danger anytime, that is why city and festival shows are done by professional pyrotechnicians. I myself was on the Houston Fourth of July show this year as well as another fireworks display in Sugarland, Texas. Both were done during the state wide burn ban, during the drought and with the cities and fire departments in agreement. Both displays were done safely and without incident.
In situations like these a ground based show in the safest area possible with the usual fire supression equipment does the trick.
Just to let you guys know that fireworks aren't some "uncontrolable monster" that should be "put down".
Hiya, Alan. We keep running into each other LOL!
MRE's are a good option but with a bit of know how and a hot manifold, you can have a gourmet dinner without having it be a bit on the bland side...
*I've cooked everything from pot roast to lasagna on a manifold* ;) ;D
My curiosity is based more on how security is going to patrol such a massive area to make sure everyone complies with all of the items on that list. From what I've always understood the participant area usually has stricter rules to begin. So I was just wondering.
By the time it gets cold I'm hoping to have enough rain for the burn ban to be lifted.
As to patroling, I hope they hand out stiff fines to the first few that violate the burn ban and then use word of mouth to keep the rest in line. As long as they are clear about the regulations then people can't claim ignorance.
With as bad as the drought is around here and with all the homes and property lost not a single person should complain. Be happy the grounds didn't burn down in either fire.
On my way to work I was making a mental list of things that can be used for lighting and such.
Yesterday I saw battery operated Christmas lights at Hobby Lobby. Those can be used by folks without electrical power options. Think I may get a few strings of our Christmas lights down from the attic, we might use those for lighting camp.
As Angie and others have said, the handwarmers are great. Plus we all usually bundle up as it is during the cold period so ya don't freeze to badly on walkabouts.
I'm sure we are all able to come up with some very ingenious improvisations for warmth. ;D
Another thing popped into my head as well. Will the lack of a big fire at the drum circle keep the punks away this year or at least diminish their presence? This could very well be a blessing in disguise. :)
So does this mean we can NOT smoke in our campsites, even if we are among the responsible ones who take care of it?
Smoke at your own risk... and please field dress every butt. You could smoke in your vehicle or tent if you don't want the ticket... IF they get around to you and it hasn't rained.
*Thank God for Honda generators and electric heaters... lighting and warm tents.* ;)
Edit
Maybe i should've said "Domo arigato"... :D
Quote from: Laird Fraser of Lovatt on September 16, 2011, 08:45:41 AM
Smoke at your own risk... and please field dress every butt. You could smoke in your vehicle or tent if you don't want the ticket... IF they get around to you and it hasn't rained.
So that means there *would* be a fine if caught?
They really need to get the website updated with these new rules, then. I would guess the majority of campers do not visit these forums and may not be aware of the new rules banning smoking and cooking things (even if the bans do make sense).
The "ticket" is word of mouth, as of right now... i got it on hearsay. I went to the TRF site and clicked on "Read more..." about them still being open after the fires and it went straight to the Ticket Sales. They might want to post it...
Just posted on the FB page:
Due to the extreme drought and wild fire issues that have affected Grimes County and the surrounding areas, it is the position of the TRF staff that the following policies are in place in order to ensure the safety of the festival grounds, staff and patrons for the 2011 season. This policy will be in effect moving forward unless the area experiences significant rain in the coming weeks.
Camping
Grimes County Burn Ban is in Effect. This means that the TRF grounds will NOT ALLOW the following:
· Bon Fires
· Fireworks
· Open flame fires (BBQ or fire pit)
· Open Flame Heating Devices
· Colman-style fueled lighting devices
We will allow smoking in DESIGNATED AREAS ONLY! The camping area will have a designated smoking location.
TRF will allow the use of:
· Electric Lighting devices
· Electric Heaters
· Generators
· Propane cooking devices
· Smoking in designated areas
Parking Lot
· No Smoking
· No open flames
Facility
The Royal Fireworks display has been canceled for 2011 based on the burn ban notice and extreme drought conditions in Grimes County. We are currently working on a suitable replacement show. In addition, the use of smoking materials, including cigarettes, cigars, pipes, etc. must be disposed in suitable non-combustible containers.
If the area experiences significant rainfall prior to or during the festival run, we will re-evaluate these policies and make any necessary amendments at that time in accordance with Grimes County officials.
We appreciate your cooperation in helping us enforce these policy changes. This will help us ensure that TRF staff, crew and patrons have a safe experience at the festival this season. If you have any questions regarding these policy changes, please contact me directly.
Sincerely,
Terre Albert
General Manager
Texas Renaissance Festival
talbert@texrenfest.com
Sweet... looks like Beef Stew is still on the menu for Friday night, AHE... although i'd like to use my grill for other items, i can wing it. ;) Improvision is one of the things America great... ;D
I was just coming in here to post that! Glad to see they clarified on the propane stoves. However I will make it a priority not just to bring wash water, but a bucket and extra water to keep handy near the stove, just in case. Better safe than sorry.
Quote from: Bonny Pearl on September 16, 2011, 08:12:59 AM
On my way to work I was making a mental list of things that can be used for lighting and such.
Yesterday I saw battery operated Christmas lights at Hobby Lobby. Those can be used by folks without electrical power options. Think I may get a few strings of our Christmas lights down from the attic, we might use those for lighting camp.
oohh, yay! I have two strings of battery lights, I may get more. I've been looking into solar powered tiki torches...while they are not as bright they actually look pretty good. Unfortunately, I've had a hard time finding good ones...
I would like to suggest the everyone have a fire extinguisher on hand too because yes, we are all sensible folks on this site (for the most part!) and will abide by the rules, but you know there are plenty of dumbasses out there who will not.
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Quote from: Lady Laura on September 16, 2011, 10:10:13 AM
I would like to suggest the everyone have a fire extinguisher on hand too because yes, we are all sensible folks on this site (for the most part!) and will abide by the rules, but you know there are plenty of dumbasses out there who will not.
Also a good idea. Be sure it is at least type A.
http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=3741-65213-FA110&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=3032955&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=req&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1
the problem is, maybe one in a thousand patrons is on TRF's facebook, and out of those maybe one in ten pay attention to it. They REALLY need to get it on the main page of the TRF website, ASAP, or people will be lighting up out of stupidity and/or ignorance (depending on the type of fire)
EDIT: at some point since it was last checked this morning, they have updated the "read more" link to include the fire ban info, but they need a specific "FIRE RESTRICTIONS ANNOUNCEMENT!" warning on the main page as well, for the extra dense :D
Quote from: Breandan on September 16, 2011, 10:21:32 AM
the problem is, maybe one in a thousand patrons is on TRF's facebook, and out of those maybe one in ten pay attention to it. They REALLY need to get it on the main page of the TRF website, ASAP, or people will be lighting up out of stupidity and/or ignorance (depending on the type of fire)
I swear it said on the FB page that is was linked to the website, but I can't find it there. I'm sure they'll update it soon and also have many notices around the grounds and at camp check in.
Terre did say that without these changes they might not have been allowed to open.
So how many of these would we need for a circle of friends to sit and stay warm if needed? Does anyone have any recommendations on heaters for this type of use?
I could also swear I have seen flameless fire pits at the stores... anyone else seen those at the big box stores? Then there are those big heater lamps like you see at the hot chocolate place in front of faire. Those are pricey though... wonder if renting is a less expensive option. Folks in their respective camps could pool funds together for something like that.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-SportCat-Catalytic-Heater/13228604?sourceid=1500000000000003260410&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=13228604
Aiacha lights will look so festive! ;D Even if we do get a good amount of rain we should plan for lights anyway lol. Do you have a link on the solar tikis you are looking at?
Necessity is the mother of invention.
I already have all this stuff, so I'm not out any $$$, but here's my "campfire". I'm using the battery pack from my portable fan:
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pluggin in my ac/dc adapter:
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and then plugging my awesome fake fire into it.
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I stack up firewood around it, and presto:
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On second thought, I might get alot of people running up with fire extinguishers. Maybe I'll just stick with a fluorescent lantern and solar tikis!
Quote from: Lady Laura on September 16, 2011, 11:04:44 AM
On second thought, I might get alot of people running up with fire extinguishers. Maybe I'll just stick with a fluorescent lantern and solar tikis!
LOL, yep that might be a good idea. :D
Even though I'm a smoker, I'm glad to see the ban in effect. I have no problem with having to use designated smoking areas, and/or fines for those who break the rules. The safety of people and the grounds are way more important than me having a bit of nicotine. Even before the fire bans, I've always used those snuffers that hold the butts for the car, AND have at least one coffee CAN with dirt in it for others to use. If I chose (in the past) to smoke in Faire, I made sure my cigarette was out, then made the effort to bend over in my corset to pick it up and threw it away in a trash can, after making VERY sure it was all the way out. I'm also not adverse to picking up other people's butts and saying something to someone if I see them just toss it - I've been known to actually chase someone down for doing that VERY rude action.
Last year at closing, we had no heat in or near our tent, except body heat and lots of blankets. I'm sure most of you know how cold it got that weekend! :) Yeah, so it won't be the same without the fireworks, but if it means one thing missed in the whole experience, then so be it, as long as people stay safe! Kudos to TRF for making these rules!
Bonnie, our clan has the propane heater type things like what they have at the hot chocolate place. We just bought the head portion that sits on the propane tank. I think they were something like $75 each. We also have a table top one but it connects to a coleman stove bottle.
My clan is only taking 10 people this year, so we are having to consoledate our packing anyway, but the ban is cutting down on our things even more.
We were planning on doing a hotel if we went to TRF this year, but with Fuzzlet being born early and few ways to have good heat, there is no way we can take her now.
Quote from: DKayM on September 16, 2011, 12:47:18 PM
Even though I'm a smoker, I'm glad to see the ban in effect. I have no problem with having to use designated smoking areas, and/or fines for those who break the rules.
I agree. It's going to be a nuisance to have to leave my camp just to have a cigar, but it's better safe than sorry. i just hope they put the designated smoking area in a convenient central location in the campgrounds, or have a few of them spread out over the camp. If they put only one somewhere up by row 1, for example, they're going to have a lot of people just smoking in their campsites because they don't want to make the long trek just for that. I'm also fine with the designated areas in the park - in fact, I'm surprised that the free for all has lasted this long.
Maybe fire circle will turn into "smoking area"
TRF Fire Ban is now on the KHOU 11 website. Maybe this will help get the word out.
Quote from: FaeHollow on September 16, 2011, 02:42:41 PM
Maybe fire circle will turn into "smoking area"
That probably makes the most sense, given that it is a large, cleared area that is sorta centrally located. It's not real close to where I camp, but to be honest, I wouldn't want the one centralized spot to be next door to my camp anyways.
We're going to Academy tomorrow to see what we can find over there. It shouldn't be too bad, considering the majority of the stuff we have already didn't require any heat or fire.
Might also want to grab some ear plugs, going to be alot more generators going this year. Had a feeling this was going to happen so been stocking up on batteries and lights for awhile. Couple of things i grabbed if its any help to anyone:
Academy has some fleece throws for 4.99 right now (on website as well as in store if they are in stock) cheap enough to toss if they get dirty/dusty/spilled on, but should help with no fire to keep warm
Walmart (at least the local one) had the coleman small propane tank catalytic heaters on sale for $34 for hunting season
The solar powered lawn lights- walmart has them as cheap as $2 a piece, not alot of light per each one, but if its a dark night would be a big help.
Ebay some glow sticks - generaly our choice for in tent lighting, got 100 of them for about $28 off ebay
Now question for anyone else- anyone have any good ideas about attracting people to come up and have a sit/drink/chat for abit? Generaly me and my wife end up going alone build up a nice fire set out some extra chairs and within an hour weve got a nice group of people to chat with. Always go and sit at the neighbors for abit to, but this year we are bringing as few as 4 to as many as 11 people who have never been to a renfaire before and want to give them a good first xp at the campground as well as the faire.
I'm sure I'll figure something out. I made a wooden sign tonight that says "fire" and I have a bunch of red, yellow and orange chemlights...
They have updated the allowed items at camp grounds
TRF will allow the use of:
· Electric Lighting devices
· Electric Heaters
· Generators
· Propane cooking and lighting devices
· Smoking in designated areas
Still People we need to be careful im going to academy tomorrow to buy a fire exstinguisher
The no smoking is a big step for them. That goes way beyond no campfires. I suspect that the designated smoking area is probably in the Sea Devil.
But I don't blame them for being overly cautious considering how dry things have been. PK and Bastrop parks are not expected to recover for decades.
If you can imagine this, the ground was so dry and the fire so hot that seeds and roots in the ground were burned up.
I would hate to loose TRF over someone's accidently set fire.
Okay the weather 'experts' are showing we should start seeing rain around 3 this afternoon. Everyone go wash your cars lol! ;D
We are planning to go to Academy this afternoon too. Seems to be on just about everyones To Do list.
I did not see this mentioned yet, put now would be a good time for smokers to try the new electronic cigarettes. I here you can get them from Walgreen, Target, & Costco to name a few. This will allow you to smoke anywhere, however you may find yourself explaining them to others all day as the e-cigarettes do produce a vapor that looks like smoke.
Quote from: Bonny Pearl on September 17, 2011, 10:05:31 AM
Okay the weather 'experts' are showing we should start seeing rain around 3 this afternoon. Everyone go wash your cars lol! ;D
We are planning to go to Academy this afternoon too. Seems to be on just about everyones To Do list.
Just bought my Fire Extinguisher at Lowes it was only $17 bucks. Good price. Just had this feeling that academy was going to be more expensive. Looks like we will be able to cook our Fajitas first weekend going to use my Weber Propane grill. Camp will still be well lit with our propane lanterns. Just wanted to get the Extinguisher just in case. My wife looked at the almanac and it said theres supposed to be some rain in Oct. Hopefully its right.
Some rain, today, already....
My Dad will be using his e-cig at fair. Back at camp I'm sure he will be hunting the smoking area.
Rained here for a short period! I just hope the rain made its way to the faire grounds too. Still cloudy and the chance for more rain tonight and tomorrow are looking good. :)
Update! Just heard some rumbling from the sky! That is a wonderful sound. :)
Just looked at the radar lots of wet stuff coming!
Quote from: DonaCatalina on September 17, 2011, 06:34:59 AM
... PK and Bastrop parks are not expected to recover for decades. ...
Last year, we visited Sherwood and stayed in Bastrop (as
you know Doña). Driving back and forth through Bastrop Park, I thought it was such a beautiful drive. I know it's going to be a major shock to see next February when we return to the area.
Got dripped on a few times here at the coast....bah... :P
Well over an inch of rain here in Spring. Hopefully the faire area got some too.
keep it coming ;D
20 minutes of good rain here in Montgomery. Hopefully more to come.
Radar for the region (http://www.wunderground.com/radar/mixedcomposite.asp?region=d3&size=2x&type=loop&MR=1), lots of rain moving in from the SW
Some of the site webcams show wet bricks, but no standing water.
Pray the forecast for the next week holds up. Need three weeks of daily 2-3 inches.
For our SWFF friends, expect the same fire restrictions for the upcoming Celtic Festival weekend. Rules will be posted in the SWFF group here and on the YahooGroups message base.
Quote from: SolRac on September 17, 2011, 12:21:51 PM
My wife looked at the almanac and it said theres supposed to be some rain in Oct. Hopefully its right.
I just looked at the predictions online and see this for the south central region:
September 2011
16th-19th. Heavy thunderstorms.
20th-23rd. Rainy, followed by decreasing clouds.
24th-27th. Variable cloudiness, with an ongoing risk of showers.
28th-30th. Sunny and comfortably warm.
October 2011
1st-3rd. Scattered thunderstorms.
4th-7th. A surge of colder air moves in; dry.
8th-11th. Breezy and dry.
12th-15th. Increasingly cloudy with some heavy rains.
16th-19th. Skies clear.
20th-23rd. Clouds, rains return.
24th-27th. Pleasantly dry.
28th-31st. Turning colder, with increasing clouds. Stormy for Arkansas and Louisiana.
November 2011
1st-3rd. Unseasonably cool Southern Plains to the Mexican border.
4th-7th. Cloudy, showery.
8th-11th. Fair at first, then stormy, with some rain or mixed rain and wet snow.
12th-15th. More unsettled weather.
Did she see the same info? I'm liking the mention of heavy rain in this. Just hope we get some of it.
Quote from: Bonny Pearl on September 18, 2011, 03:45:29 PM
Quote from: SolRac on September 17, 2011, 12:21:51 PM
My wife looked at the almanac and it said theres supposed to be some rain in Oct. Hopefully its right.
I just looked at the predictions online and see this for the south central region:
September 2011
16th-19th. Heavy thunderstorms.
20th-23rd. Rainy, followed by decreasing clouds.
24th-27th. Variable cloudiness, with an ongoing risk of showers.
28th-30th. Sunny and comfortably warm.
October 2011
1st-3rd. Scattered thunderstorms.
4th-7th. A surge of colder air moves in; dry.
8th-11th. Breezy and dry.
12th-15th. Increasingly cloudy with some heavy rains.
16th-19th. Skies clear.
20th-23rd. Clouds, rains return.
24th-27th. Pleasantly dry.
28th-31st. Turning colder, with increasing clouds. Stormy for Arkansas and Louisiana.
November 2011
1st-3rd. Unseasonably cool Southern Plains to the Mexican border.
4th-7th. Cloudy, showery.
8th-11th. Fair at first, then stormy, with some rain or mixed rain and wet snow.
12th-15th. More unsettled weather.
Did she see the same info? I'm liking the mention of heavy rain in this. Just hope we get some of it.
Ya thats pretty much what she saw.
I agree that the fire ban is a bummer. Just talked to a friend that lives in a community in the national forest. He said that the fine for being caught with a lit BBQ pit is $1,500. I would think that would be enough of a driving force to everyone to keep the pits cold. If I remember right SWFF had almost the same restrictions and everyone had a blast. I have most of the electric items all though I dont like to use them. Just means I have to bring more gear to camp. I do have to say that an electric heater in a tent is a very bad idea. Tents are not ment to have electric heaters in them. Dress warm and have plenty of warm blankets on hand when you go to bed. Someone in the bed with you is a plus.
I think everyone who opposes the ban should be loaded in a bus and forced to drive down 1774 and 1486. Parts of it look like a war zone. It is absolutely heartbreaking... I only saw one house that didn't make it but there are more back in the woods. Some houses look like the fire licked the front door... so thank GOD for the firefighters and their diligent work! It was just devastating.
As far as weather... I hear that summers like this bring horrible winters. I just hope it rains all week and gives a mild cloudy weekend all season.
:)
I doubt anyone opposes the ban, given the circumstances. I emailed about an enclosed "wood stove" with spark arrest catches, etc. That is also a no go, just FYI. I did get told by management that "if a propane bottle plugs into it, it is not banned". I can show the actual email if needed.
:D :o rain glorious rain...... Now I hope it just parks right over grimes county for the whole day!
Looks like you may have a few more hours of it at least. What a relief it must be!
A good long rain overnight and this morning is a great start.
Quote from: Sir Edward on September 18, 2011, 09:24:46 PM
I agree that the fire ban is a bummer. Just talked to a friend that lives in a community in the national forest. He said that the fine for being caught with a lit BBQ pit is $1,500. I would think that would be enough of a driving force to everyone to keep the pits cold. If I remember right SWFF had almost the same restrictions and everyone had a blast. I have most of the electric items all though I dont like to use them. Just means I have to bring more gear to camp. I do have to say that an electric heater in a tent is a very bad idea. Tents are not ment to have electric heaters in them. Dress warm and have plenty of warm blankets on hand when you go to bed. Someone in the bed with you is a plus.
I've used electric heat more than once without any problems... it just needs to be elevated & centered, with tip over failsafe. Don't leave them unattended and don't passout with them on... common sense. 8)
*If you burn down your tent because you're stupid...*
While I no longer camp, I have a few suggestions.
40-hour heat packs (or even 20-hour). Put one at the foot of your bed a while before retiring, it will help keep you warm. Remember if your FEET are cold, cover your head... Even a towel over your head will help retain body heat. (Limit cold drinks and caffeine, also...)
There are plenty of battery-powered lanterns nowadays. Coleman even has one that looks very much like the flame-and-mantle one. They run for many hours.
How about a big lantern under some sheer material or a big paper Chinese lantern? This could be your pseudo Fire-pit.
Glowsticks- now is the season! Even Walmart has them in the Hallowe'en section.
Power converters for car cigarette-lighter plugs. Most stores that carry electronics have them. You can plug in a hot pot or hot plate. Just remember to disconnect everything when done. Even electric appliances can cause fires.
Any space heater should have a tip-over device. This is usually a small sprung peg that pops out and cuts off power if it tips over. Most tents are not air-tight enough to be a worry... but if concerned, leave a small gap in a window and the door zip for ventilation.
Elevate your sleeping bags and air mattresses off the ground. Camp foam will help provide an insulating layer.
Most business are required to replace fire extinguishers yearly, even though the dry type are good for years. Since we are ones that are required to do so, I keep one of the "outdated" (still good according to dates, but I had to buy new anyway) in my car and another in my boat. Ask around at your local business and see what they do with the extinguishers. But they are not that expensive, anyway.
A jug of water set next to anything that looks like it could spark a fire (non-electrical) is an ounce of prevention. Otherwise, having the extinguisher in plain site would probably be appreciated by the TRF grounds.
My nerves are probably as bad as anyone else... I lost part of a porch in the storms last night. I know we need the rain, and I dread seeing the burned out areas. I've seen enough of those to last me a lifetime. I just don't want the grounds to be part of them!
Marga
Quote from: eloquentXI on September 15, 2011, 09:27:31 PMWe're a bunch of college kids so we don't have generators and other nifty technological gadgets to keep us toasty during the colder nights.
Megan, there's always body heat. :D
When we camped at Sherwood this past March, Willa and Sheila shared one blow-up mattress, and Shante (Sheila's daughter) and I shared another. We were wrapped around each other like newlyweds, but we stayed warm!
Quote from: Penny Parlay on September 23, 2011, 05:27:46 PM
Quote from: eloquentXI on September 15, 2011, 09:27:31 PMWe're a bunch of college kids so we don't have generators and other nifty technological gadgets to keep us toasty during the colder nights.
Megan, there's always body heat. :D
When we camped at Sherwood this past March, Willa and Sheila shared one blow-up mattress, and Shante (Sheila's daughter) and I shared another. We were wrapped around each other like newlyweds, but we stayed warm!
Pics or it didn't happen
*Will offer rum for those pics*
1000 golden splonders for pics!
Quote from: Penny Parlay on September 23, 2011, 05:27:46 PM
Quote from: eloquentXI on September 15, 2011, 09:27:31 PMWe're a bunch of college kids so we don't have generators and other nifty technological gadgets to keep us toasty during the colder nights.
Megan, there's always body heat. :D
When we camped at Sherwood this past March, Willa and Sheila shared one blow-up mattress, and Shante (Sheila's daughter) and I shared another. We were wrapped around each other like newlyweds, but we stayed warm!
I'm moreso just thinking of taking care of my own. Everybody that is coming with me will have their S/O with them so they'll cuddle up just fine, I hope. And hopefully, I won't have to bonk anybody over the head with a pan for not bringing blankets again...
Flying solo, I don't need to be worried about. I'm not going to go search out a personal body-heater either. (Sorry guys.) :D
Meg- Here is what I did in my CRAZY COLD nights last yeah.
1. Airmattress with a few heavy blankets spread out on it.
2. 2 sleeping bags. Put one inside the other.
3. 1 big heavy blanket to go on top of the sleeping bags.
4. thick tube socks
5. ski hat
6. tank top
7. short shorts
8. 4 hand warmers.
Set up your air mattress with the heavy blankets on it doubled sleeping bags and heavy blanket on top. Wear a tank top and pajama shorts. put a handwarmer in each sock... one in your hat and save one. get in the sleeping bags and zip it up. Reach out and pull the heavy blanket over until you only have a tiny hole to breathe through... then stick the other handwarmer between your boobs.
A LOT of prep a total pain in the weed puller... but come 8 am when you wake up and realize you are toasty and DREAD getting out of your cocoon... you'll know it worked!
:)
If you don't have something thick between your air matress and the ground, the air inside the mattress will actually become colder than the ambient air.
Quote from: DonaCatalina on September 26, 2011, 10:27:32 AM
If you don't have something thick between your air matress and the ground, the air inside the mattress will actually become colder than the ambient air.
Oh I have figured this out the hard way.
And thanks Leigh! Minus the sleeping bags, I do something quite similar for a Meg cocoon. Haven't used the hand-warmers though...might consider it just to keep my hands warm. I overheat easily so I have to kinda of be careful about how warm I let myself get.
Because of the extreme drought and on-going risk of fire, the City of Conroe and The Woodlands have banned outdoor grilling in city parks. All portable BBQ pits, charcoal grills and open-flame cooking devices are temporarily banned.
In The Woodlands, officials have already removed existing grills at parks.
Anyone caught violating the outdoor grilling ban, faces a Class C misdemeanor with a $500 fine.
There is an ongoing discussion on another board about getting the word out to all the seasonal faire workers that camp on Renfaire Dr. & who has actual enforcement authority back there. They are expecting confrontations with the usual suspects/asshats.
Quote from: ravic on September 26, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
There is an ongoing discussion on another board about getting the word out to all the seasonal faire workers that camp on Renfaire Dr. & who has actual enforcement authority back there. They are expecting confrontations with the usual suspects/asshats.
I would think the county sheriff would have authority.
This is why as a responsible smoker I carry a pocket ashtray. I've missed placed the original Marlboro gave me, but bought one on Ebay.
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Relief in sight? For plantersville
Sat
10/1/2011 85° 58° 0 0 Mostly sunny 85° 63°
Sun
10/2/2011 82° 56° 0 0 Sunshine and nice 84° 63°
Mon
10/3/2011 83° 60° 0.01 0 Plenty of sunshine 84° 62°
Tue
10/4/2011 85° 62° 0 0 Sunny 84° 62°
Wed
10/5/2011 86° 62° 0 0 Plenty of sunshine 83° 62°
Thu
10/6/2011 88° 64° 0.03 0 Partly sunny 83° 61°
Fri
10/7/2011 79° 66° 0.09 0 Colder with occasional rain 83° 61°
Sat
10/8/2011 80° 66° 0.26 0 Periods of rain 83° 61°
Sun
10/9/2011 75° 66° 0.47 0 Humid with rain 82° 61°
Mon
10/10/2011 77° 64° 1.02 0 Humid with rain 82° 60°
Tue
10/11/2011 80° 60° 0.08 0 Humid with rain 82° 60°
A little relief would be nice heading into October. Also a bit of rain in the forecast the next couple of days.
Is...is that a 75°?? *knock on wood*
Quote from: Aiacha on September 27, 2011, 03:42:02 PM
Is...is that a 75°?? *knock on wood*
Shhhhhhh...don't scare it away!!
As much as I love seeing the R word does it HAVE to show up on WEEKENDS?
So...... it's dark, there's weird streaks of light flashing from the sky and rumbling sounds out here.... hhhmmmm wonder what this means? :)
Quote from: Bonny Pearl on September 27, 2011, 06:17:05 PM
So...... it's dark, there's weird streaks of light flashing from the sky and rumbling sounds out here.... hhhmmmm wonder what this means? :)
Alien invasion???
Quote from: FaeHollow on September 27, 2011, 05:58:46 PM
As much as I love seeing the R word does it HAVE to show up on WEEKENDS?
During faire it should be restricted to noon on to Monday to noon on Friday. That way it won't bother anybody but the squirrels.
10 Day Forecast (Does Not Include Cannon)
Wednesday September 28 - Some clouds and possibly an isolated thunderstorm in the afternoon. Hot. High 97F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
Thursday September 29 - Some clouds and possibly an isolated thunderstorm in the afternoon. Hot. High 97F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%.
Friday September 30 - Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the upper 90s and lows in the mid 60s.
Saturday October 1 - Sunshine. Highs in the low 90s and lows in the upper 50s.
Sunday October 2 - Sunny. Highs in the upper 80s and lows in the upper 50s.
Monday October 3 - Abundant sunshine. Highs in the mid 80s and lows in the low 60s.
Tuesday October 4 - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s and lows in the low 60s.
Wednesday October 5 - Partly cloudy. Highs in the low 90s and lows in the mid 60s.
Thursday October 6 - Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the low 90s and lows in the upper 60s.
Quote from: Lady Guinevere on September 27, 2011, 06:37:08 PM
Quote from: Bonny Pearl on September 27, 2011, 06:17:05 PM
So...... it's dark, there's weird streaks of light flashing from the sky and rumbling sounds out here.... hhhmmmm wonder what this means? :)
Alien invasion???
LOL, It might as well have been, we didn't see a lot of rain for all that bluster... some but not what we thought it was going to give us.
From the radar view, it looked like it was traveling straight down I-10. Apparently just passing through (o:
Went to Home Depot and got my solar garden lights, 6 ft. metal poles (ok, so I do have to cut them that length) and Rust-o-leum. Making my own "tiki torches" this weekend!
Quote from: Lady Laura on September 28, 2011, 05:31:44 PM
Went to Home Depot and got my solar garden lights, 6 ft. metal poles (ok, so I do have to cut them that length) and Rust-o-leum. Making my own "tiki torches" this weekend!
that's a cool idea
I love that Idea - Wish I were home to follow suite.
Quote from: Lady Laura on September 28, 2011, 05:31:44 PM
Went to Home Depot and got my solar garden lights, 6 ft. metal poles (ok, so I do have to cut them that length) and Rust-o-leum. Making my own "tiki torches" this weekend!
Did the same thing only got my lights at Big Lots they were only a dollar there. Still have to cut the PVC pipe but had that in my scarp pin, Didn't think of painting them good idea got to steal that one.
Please plunder as necessary! Truthfully, I'm happy to hear you're doing the same with the lights. It's going to very dark at the campgrounds without fires!
My advise would be to befriend someone with a generator or check into renting one for a long weekend... That way you can use a crockpot or electric skillet to cook food or reheat what you bring. I have lived with these items before when other options were not there and it is easily doable...good luck.... if more than a couple of people chip in to buy/rent one then it will take care of a huge group!
*Head already hurting from the thought of all the generator noise in camp*
anyone who didn't see this post coming is definitely a newb to the forum (o:
Quote from: KiltedPrivateer on October 01, 2011, 08:55:21 PM
*Head already hurting from the thought of all the generator noise in camp*
anyone who didn't see this post coming is definitely a newb to the forum (o:
Capt'n (KP)
As I have been informed on numerous previous occasions, about generator noise
( ;D now I have one so it does not bother me ;D)
You can always stay in the quiet Area??? :D
Quote from: beckgam462 on October 01, 2011, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: KiltedPrivateer on October 01, 2011, 08:55:21 PM
*Head already hurting from the thought of all the generator noise in camp*
anyone who didn't see this post coming is definitely a newb to the forum (o:
Capt'n (KP)
As I have been informed on numerous previous occasions, about generator noise
( ;D now I have one so it does not bother me ;D)
You can always stay in the quiet Area??? :D
I hate generators, so it is awfully funny that I ended up a member of the most mechanized clan(McLot) in the campgrounds. ;D But I love my clan more than I hate generators. :-*
After Hurricanes Rita and Ike, generators are my friend. ;D
Quote from: beckgam462 on October 01, 2011, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: KiltedPrivateer on October 01, 2011, 08:55:21 PM
*Head already hurting from the thought of all the generator noise in camp*
anyone who didn't see this post coming is definitely a newb to the forum (o:
Capt'n (KP)
As I have been informed on numerous previous occasions, about generator noise
( ;D now I have one so it does not bother me ;D)
You can always stay in the quiet Area??? :D
Right - Trade the generator noise for the iron dragon noise - Smashing!
How bout everyone go buy a whisperquiet generator as another avenue to ponder.
Its just so exciting being in the "renaissance" camp ground, sitting around a bright fire (except for this year), chatting at very high decibels so that the person across from you can hear you over the rattling of a four stroke china built 300 cc motor. Yee Haw.
Pardon me if I prefer a campground where I can hear drums a quarter mile away. I'd much rather hear the sounds of laughter and camaraderie.
And now that we are way off topic - Though I did mention the lack of fires - How bout those electric lights we'll all be investing in this year (o:
Quote from: Glaodian on October 01, 2011, 11:52:37 PM
After Hurricanes Rita and Ike, generators are my friend. ;D
Not even gonna knock 'em here. I fully intend on investing in a whole house standby when I get some extra cash. They have their place - no doubt.
It is worth investing in a decent generator that is some what quite. Though the one I will be using this year will be on my motorhome. It is some what quite, but still able to be heard. You can talk while sitting next to it.
And I do agree with the idea of being able to camp with only the sounds of drum in the background. But with all of the super loud music and such from certain areas of the campground, the nice purrrrrr of a generator puts me to sleep when the time comes for my head to slam into my pillow. ;D
But since we are still on the topic of generators, it is very important to stay away from those super cheap chinese made generators. You know the ones. The ones whos name you can not pronounce, let alone spell when you are not looking right at it. I have seen some of those catch fire due to cheaply made parts. This could cause an issue in the dry areas of the campgrounds. Just an FYI.
Not really worried about it. It isn't like I will be living out there for weeks on end to the point of needing a generator. I've got plenty of propane and battery powered camping devices to keep me in warmth and light for the time I will be camping.
Regardless, even if I had to sleep in the car I am still looking forward to it.
Quote from: crashbot on October 02, 2011, 01:47:39 AM
Regardless, even if I had to sleep in the car I am still looking forward to it.
I did that last year. Not fun but better than missing TRF. This year I have a nice little tent so I can sleep flat.
Personally, I don't like generators. People should be able to let go of the electric bug for a weekend.
I wish there was a rule that generators had to be within 3 feet of their owner's bed. (Medical needs exempt)
I would also ban all recorded music, and allow only live music, but I am not King George.
My solor twiki torch for opening weekend.
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Awesome - Looks great.
Wish I were going to get home in time to make some up.
I still worry about them growing legs.
Thanks they turned out pretty nice. It would be annoying if someone walked off with them but there is less that ten dollars not counting time in them. The solor lights were less that two dollards the PVC pipe was scrap laying around and new cost around 5 dollars the paint was the most expensive at 7 dollars and the work was just a couple hours. Still you would hope people had more self respect that to steal something like them from the camp grounds.
How are you standing them up? I thought you had used conduit which could be bored down into soft ground, but pvc, not so much. Did you attach stakes? Or just dig a hole?
18 inch tent stakes which I also had extra of they are the correct size to just fit in a 3/4 inch PVC pipe drive the stakes in about ten inches leaving aboutt eight to go into the pipe. Conduit would be stronger and I might do that later as I can cut it at an angle to make it self driving. But I had the tent stakes and the PVC so it make an cheap experiment. I'm interrested in seeing how they work in reality compared to theory.
Quote from: SirRichardBear on October 02, 2011, 10:44:08 PM
18 inch tent stakes which I also had extra of they are the correct size to just fit in a 3/4 inch PVC pipe drive the stakes in about ten inches leaving aboutt eight to go into the pipe. Conduit would be stronger and I might do that later as I can cut it at an angle to make it self driving. But I had the tent stakes and the PVC so it make an cheap experiment. I'm interrested in seeing how they work in reality compared to theory.
What about using 3/4" EMT? It comes in 10' sticks and is pretty cheap at your local hardware store in the electrical section.
Should work fine and most likely what I would have gone with if I hadn't had the PVC pipe all ready in my scrap pile.
That's what I used Glaodian, and very similar lights. I'm thinking rebar stakes will fit in the end of them and I can drive those into the ground without having to hammer on the 3/4" EMT.
Quote from: Lady Laura on October 03, 2011, 01:39:28 PM
That's what I used Glaodian, and very similar lights. I'm thinking rebar stakes will fit in the end of them and I can drive those into the ground without having to hammer on the 3/4" EMT.
You might check at home dept for foundation spikes (the ones they use to hold the wire) they have points and holes you canuse to fasten them to the EMT. If these work this weekend I'm going to go that way for the rest of the season, I figure the burn ban will be in place all season.
Just a reminder to everyone.
I was driving through the TRF parking lot his weekend and saw that the pine straw is tinder dry and inches deep. It's not going to take much to start a nasty fire very quickly. I haven't had a chance to look at the campground, but it's going to be just as dry without the pine needles.
Please be extra extra careful about cigarettes and any kind of fire out there.
Zaubon
And bring a fire extinguisher to your camp if you have one or would purchase one!!
Sir Richard, those lights look great. i had to go for the slightly pricer route because i didn't have time to make my own (working way too much and finishing garb still). i got solar powered LED pole lights at home depot that are about 5' and flicker like torches. gives it an interesting look. Target also has a bunch of solar powered LED Halloween/Christmas lights (though they are a little on the pricey side too) that i got to decorate our campsite. every little bit of light will help, i figure.
I have all red LED Xmas lights,(for our canopy) that'll run off the generator, a couple of battery powered LED tent lights and a couple of solar lights with glass "crackle" tops... they throw of an interesting light pattern so i may pick up a couple more. We may not have fires/tikis but there should be light enough to have a good time. ;) ;D
I did finally find some more battery powered christmas lights, but they're not as nice as the ones I bought several years ago. We also picked up some solar lights ourselves, at least for the door to the tent.
Quote from: Merlin the Elder on September 17, 2011, 06:01:26 PM
Quote from: DonaCatalina on September 17, 2011, 06:34:59 AM
... PK and Bastrop parks are not expected to recover for decades. ...
Last year, we visited Sherwood and stayed in Bastrop (as you know Doña). Driving back and forth through Bastrop Park, I thought it was such a beautiful drive. I know it's going to be a major shock to see next February when we return to the area.
Well I can tell you it looks horrible! I live in Smithville and I drive HWY 71 every morning to work and it is just devistating. They have been covering as much of the burnt area as possible with the green grass grow stuff but still you can see all around it. They are having a HUGE cleanup this Saturday so if anyone is interested in the details let me know and I will send it to them.
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=8384766
Wow! Good job, Gina!
Borrowed from White Wizard's FB page....... hope peeking out of disaster.
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remember one day of rain does not a drought break. Be careful!
Was that from the fire at Scarby?
I have one of those wizards! Was this the artisan's house or something? Details, por favor!
I believe that's the rubble of Kandra's (Wee Peeple) home in Bastrop
Oh yeah... I heard about Kandra's house. Any word on how they are doing?
I talked to her Saturday. She seemed to be happy to be at faire & was doing her best to put a good face on things. Better than I would have in her place.
Her shop is not one that I would normally go into, since I have no small ones myself, but we pass by it numerous times as we wander through the Pecan Grove at Scarby. I think next trip down, I'll get something for my nieces. I'm sure Kandra could use all the business she can get right now.
I am on Kandra's mailing list, and she tells an amazing story of the fire as both a tragedy and a blessing in her newsletter
http://weepeeple.com/drawer/sept2011newsletter.htm
Wow... that's an amazing attitude.
Quote from: raevyncait on October 12, 2011, 08:55:44 AM
I am on Kandra's mailing list, and she tells an amazing story of the fire as both a tragedy and a blessing in her newsletter
http://weepeeple.com/drawer/sept2011newsletter.htm
Wow - thank you for sharing. Truly an amazing inspiration!
Thank you for posting Kendra's page, Raevyncait. What a beautiful spirit she has. Wish I were visiting TRF this season. I'd surely stop in to her shop to purchase one of her dolls and shake her hand.
Well we received a wee bit of rain last night. Though I don't think it made enough of a dent.
You know, I was working in Houston and came home last night; I saw SO many lightning flashes on my way out of texas, and I really hoped that some of it went that way.
I would take a dark, stormy, wet pirate weekend with a huge grin if it meant fires for christmas....
:)
Ironically.... I looked at the 10 day forecast and well...... on Pirate Weekend we could see some gulley-air mattress surfing at camp again lol!
I'll see if I can dig up a pic from last weekend of that.
Well I'll be a purple a...yeah.
That's great. I welcome it with open arms. I only hope that the flood is sufficient for a FIERY XMAS!
Please say it will be friday night surfing and not sunday afternoon surfing. I don't know if I can spend a week cleaning garb again. I finally gave up and threw my shoes in the dryer.
Looks like you are in luck Fae! The forecast has changed to Partly Cloudy. How many more times it will change between now and Pirate weekend is anyone's guess, especially for the weather 'experts' lol. :D
Bonny, I just posted two of the surfing under the photos post!
Quote from: Bonny Pearl on October 14, 2011, 09:57:47 AM
Looks like you are in luck Fae! The forecast has changed to Partly Cloudy. How many more times it will change between now and Pirate weekend is anyone's guess, especially for the weather 'experts' lol. :D
What a twist!
Now we're looking at 0% chance of rain for the 10 day forecast!
Not really unusual. The weather forecast has been known to change at least five times before heading to camp on Thursday night and several more before opening cannon on Saturday morning. And if opening weekend is any example, I believe the forecast on my phone was 30% scattered showers. Yeah, apparently they meant 100% rain with scattered light rain for 30% of the day (o:
Quote from: Lady Laura on October 14, 2011, 11:14:18 AM
Bonny, I just posted two of the surfing under the photos post!
LOL love it! ;D
New post from Montgomery Fire Marshall FB page 20 minutes ago:
Montgomery County Fire Marshal's Office
URGENT - FIRE WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX 726 AM CDT MON OCT 17 2011 ...FIRE WEATHER WATCH FOR ALL OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS TUESDAY... .A FIRE WEATHER WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR TUESDAY IN THE WAKE OF A COLD FRONT EARLY IN THE MORNING. DRY AND WINDY CONDITIONS WILL BE DEVELOPING DURING THE MORNING HOURS AND CONTINUE INTO THE EVENING. AUSTIN-BRAZORIA-BRAZOS-BURLESO?N-CHAMBERS-COLORADO-FORT BEND- GALVESTON-GRIMES-HARRIS-HOUSTO?N-JACKSON-LIBERTY-MADISON-MATA?GORDA- MONTGOMERY-POLK-SAN JACINTO-TRINITY-WALKER-WALLER-?WASHINGTON- WHARTON- 726 AM CDT MON OCT 17 2011 ...FIRE WEATHER WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING FOR DRY AND WINDY CONDITIONS FOR ALL OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS... * AFFECTED COUNTIES...HOUSTON...TRINITY..?.MADISON...WALKER...SAN JACINTO...POLK...BURLESON...BR?AZOS...WASHINGTON... GRIMES...MONTGOMERY...LIBERTY.?..COLORADO...AUSTIN...WALLER..?. HARRIS...CHAMBERS...WHARTON...?FORT BEND...JACKSON... MATAGORDA...BRAZORIA...GALVEST?ON. * WIND...WINDS BECOMING NORTH IN THE WAKE OF AN EARLY MORNING COLD FRONT AND INCREASING TO 20 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS OF 30 TO 35 MPH POSSIBLE. * HUMIDITY...RH VALUES FALLING TO 25 TO 35 PERCENT TUESDAY AFTERNOON. * IMPACTS...ANY FIRES THAT DEVELOP WILL LIKELY SPREAD RAPIDLY. OUTDOOR BURNING IS BANNED OR NOT RECOMMENDED. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A FIRE WEATHER WATCH MEANS THAT CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST TO OCCUR. LISTEN FOR LATER FORECASTS AND POSSIBLE RED FLAG WARNINGS.
We've got a blustery rain storm up in DFW right now.
hopefully things will push your way with some precip to spare.
Quote from: Strange on October 17, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
We've got a blustery rain storm up in DFW right now.
hopefully things will push your way with some precip to spare.
ugh! i hate to complain about rain but i need it to wait until wednesday. i have an event tomorrow for about 500 people outside and the wind is already causing me to get eye twitches!! lol
We might get a wee bit of rain tonight! Tell it to come our way Strange! :)
Just out of curiosity, have there been any fires or smoking in the campgrounds so far, and how has it been handled?
Bring Rain - Bring Rain - Bring Rain - Bring Rain - Bring Rain - Bring Rain ;D
Quote from: Strange on October 17, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
We've got a blustery rain storm up in DFW right now.
hopefully things will push your way with some precip to spare.
Yeah most of it seem to be gone by the morning time though minus the wind. I'm loving the cool weather this morning though :)
Quote from: KiltedPrivateer on October 18, 2011, 08:50:41 AM
Bring Rain - Bring Rain - Bring Rain - Bring Rain - Bring Rain - Bring Rain ;D
But NOT after Friday noon AND not again until Monday noon. Much as we needed the rain first Sunday, it coulda waited till close.
Well, we may not get to go to faire this weekend, but if the temps really do drop into the 40's, its perfect weather to break out our new cloaks that we bought opening weekend. Faire or no Faire, I'll be sporting my new Mystic cloak to the office on Wednesday (o:
Quote from: ravic on October 18, 2011, 09:21:36 AM
But NOT after Friday noon AND not again until Monday noon. Much as we needed the rain first Sunday, it coulda waited till close.
Right now I'm not gonna complain about any rain. We need all we can get. Not just to lift the fire bans, which without rain could potentially stretch out into Sherwood time, but because our roads and foundations are buckling all over this city. As much as I hate to ruin a faire day, and we were there with you opening sunday, soaked clean through and cold, we need a lot more of it.
Have I mentioned a great cloak maker in Faire - Mystic Cloaks, 100% waterproof and really warm (o: Will come in very handy at Sherwood if we still are not allowed fires by then.
Quote from: KiltedPrivateer on October 18, 2011, 09:27:47 AM
Have I mentioned a great cloak maker in Faire - Mystic Cloaks, 100% waterproof and really warm (o: Will come in very handy at Sherwood if we still are not allowed fires by then.
Why yes I think you did mention that lol. :D MacKee told me y'all got them. He said they were very nice.
No rain last night. :(
Quote from: Tipsy Gypsy on October 18, 2011, 06:23:45 AM
Just out of curiosity, have there been any fires or smoking in the campgrounds so far, and how has it been handled?
We did not see any fires last weekend. We were number 16 to get into camp. Dad kept going to the smoke circle all day, but by night fall he was so frustrated by two LEOs that walk within five feet of three lit cigarets that he stopped going to the smoke circle. People were lighting up all over the place and each one that I spoke to said "I am careful, they are not after me." The only time I ever saw anyone say anything was on Monday around 10:30pm the firemen drove up to our camp to tell a girl visiting us (Orchid) that she should be in the smoke circle. She just told them that she was being careful and would make sure it was out. They told her to not let the police see her and drove off. If they would change the fine from 2,000 to 50 and actually enforce it, most would stop. Those guys do not want to slap anyone with that fine.
There are 2 smokers that were in my group, and several in the group camped next to us, all were discreet, and used the enclosed style ashtrays that fit into a cupholder in the car, and nobody said anything to any of them, to my knowledge. Every single butt went into one of those ashtrays, and a bit of water went in to help ensure cooled & extinguished materials before they emptied them into our trash containers periodically.
I'm gonna complain loud and clear about weekend rain. I cannot afford a mystic cloak... but if someone wants to buy me one I'd appreciate it and not complain about the rain anymore.
Quote from: FaeHollow on October 18, 2011, 02:54:58 PM
I'm gonna complain loud and clear about weekend rain. I cannot afford a mystic cloak... but if someone wants to buy me one I'd appreciate it and not complain about the rain anymore.
I have heard folks talking about those cloaks before, but not sure I have ever been in that shop. How much do those things normally run? I have been needing to get a new cloak for for some time now.
I'd like to know what they run as well, since my $110 Moresca Rain Guardian, which I bought Thanksgiving weekend 2007, along with my regular wool guardian, is no longer waterproof, after less than 20 wearings, and zero trips through the washing machine. Would have been nice had they told me when I spent $110 on it that I would eventually need to put scotch guard or another water repellant on it at some point. By the time I made it from the campground to the shop on opening Sunday I was NOT a happy camper, since I was soaked to the skin!
I think the full length one I was looking at last year was in the neighborhood of $250.
Mystic is located way back by the entrance to Sherwood, but on rainy days they move some of their stock to Dra's shop at #4, since it's the same ppl.
The regular waterproof cloak was 230 when I checked, tho they apparently give some sort of break to participants. Not sure of those details tho.
Quote from: raevyncait on October 18, 2011, 04:52:06 PM
I'd like to know what they run as well, since my $110 Moresca Rain Guardian, which I bought Thanksgiving weekend 2007, along with my regular wool guardian, is no longer waterproof, after less than 20 wearings, and zero trips through the washing machine. Would have been nice had they told me when I spent $110 on it that I would eventually need to put scotch guard or another water repellant on it at some point. By the time I made it from the campground to the shop on opening Sunday I was NOT a happy camper, since I was soaked to the skin!
Wow that is something you would want to know. I'm surprised they didn't relay that to you; Moresca has always had such a gret rep for quality and service.
Quote from: Strange on October 18, 2011, 06:18:00 PM
Mystic is located way back by the entrance to Sherwood, but on rainy days they move some of their stock to Dra's shop at #4, since it's the same ppl.
The regular waterproof cloak was 230 when I checked, tho they apparently give some sort of break to participants. Not sure of those details tho.
Had no idea that Dra and Mystic were in cahoots...
Quote from: FaeHollow on October 18, 2011, 02:54:58 PM
I'm gonna complain loud and clear about weekend rain. I cannot afford a mystic cloak... but if someone wants to buy me one I'd appreciate it and not complain about the rain anymore.
If my cash weren't already tied up in two other ladies I'd be happy to help ya out Fae (o:
Quote from: Bonny Pearl on October 18, 2011, 06:51:04 PM
Wow that is something you would want to know. I'm surprised they didn't relay that to you; Moresca has always had such a gret rep for quality and service.
I know, and I was totally shocked myself, as they've been helpful and kind about other things... when my Guardian started coming apart at the seams, I took it with me when I was at Sterling, they were awesome, I dropped it off on Saturday, they had it fixed by the following Saturday when my friend who lives up there went back to pick it up, all at NO CHARGE.
Just today, I emailed them to find out the status of my bodice that I left with them at Scarby to replace a bone and fix a couple of weak spots to keep the boning from popping out there too. They IMMEDIATELY got back with me, told me they had one in my size that had no ID information and needed the repairs mine needs. I sent them photos of mine, it matched up and it will be ready to ship to me next week. They offered to ship with faire stock, either to TRF or Scarby, thus saving me the shipping charge ($12), but since it was somewhere between Scarby and the workshop in NY that the original ID got lost, I think it's better if it's never in TX faire hands... That offer is ALMOST enough to cause me to forgive the rudeness at TRF, but not quite. Meanwhile, this weekend I'll get some waterproofing and spray my cloak with a coat or two.
Lady Dra and Doug have a business partnership wherein they sell each other's stuff and work together, but they are two distinct businesses. Doug sells her stuff at Sherwood and she has some of his cloaks up at TRF near the front where they will sell better during rainy days. I actually stress-tested one of the prototype cloaks, and I could NOT kill that thing :D Shower- no leaks, car wash hose- no leaks, drying it by letting it flap in the 80mph winds behind my truck- no tears. Even Toddlergeddon couldn't kill that thing, though she did manage to break the clasp :)
We have at least one of those cloaks. Very well made.
Are there any updates on the fire ban? Was just wondering if it has been lifted yet. We plan to camp the first weekend in November and I wanted to know if I should plan to bring firepit/firewood, etc.
I very seriously doubt it will be lifted this year, especially for any kind of firepits... now with that said I did see some pictures from this last weekend of them doing very small low shooting fireworks for the closing show.
As far as I've heard the burn ban will remain in effect through November at least. Even though we've had a bit more rain recently it is still extremely dry.
In case you thought that TRF was the one imposing the burn ban;
Grimes County burn ban still in effect.
AGENDA FOR OCTOBER 25, 2011 PUBLIC HEARING
http://www.co.grimes.tx.us/ips/cms/events.html
Last I heard the ban will stay through this season. The fireworks being done are due to the overwhelming disappointment opening weekend in the laser show by itself. They are all small in nature and no sparks leave the joust arena sand area. I can tell you that this last weekend I was having to step on glowing cigarette butts all over the village. I do not want to think about what will happen to smokers if a fire breaks out in the village. They are being very loose on the smoking in the village right now but a couple light rain showers do not make up for the drought. Keep in mind that Lake Conroe is only about 30 minutes from the faire and is currently so low that boats are sitting in dirt in places. Lake Houston has a field growing in the middle of it by the bridge due to how low it is. I would not spend money on firewood this season.
Even with the "civilian" burn ban in place, flames do seem to be popping up a little more each week.
Last night, there was what appeared to be a fire show up by the front entrance.
Not sure if it was juggling or poi, but it did draw a crowd.
I feel they need to rethink the close show. Lose the lasers and cut the whip down to only the fire whip trick. Have Dead Bob host and introduce a few performers for a finale show and alow each to colect tips again. The bells being played as the sun goes down, Arson playing with fire at twilight and many other acts could take place for 5-10 min. each. A spot light may be needed but that should not be too hard to come by.
I do hope that more rain will come so that come closing weekend, we can have fires while we camp. If not it will be some kind of cold in camp that weekend. >:( But well just have to see, I have a strange feeling that closing weekend is going to be very cold and very wet!
The official word from TRF is that the current fire policy will remain for the rest of this season.
Taylor Blu, I don't see how a series of short performances under a single spotlight could possibly exceed the current laser/pyro show. It may be different, but it is a reasonable alternative, given the wildfire danger.
Mark
We are coming for Halloween weekend, from Arkansas, since we no longer (sniff/quiet sob) live in Texas
So, no firepits, even if covered? Can I bring my propane cookstove? As cold as it is going to be this weekend, both would be greatly missed. . . ..
another question, slightly off topic -- it is difficult for me to walk long distances, can one of my fellow campers drive me up to the front gates (or actually, just behind the flushies at the front gate) drop me off and take the car back to the campground?
Thanks!
Mommadonna
Quote from: dlswope on October 25, 2011, 10:37:53 AM
We are coming for Halloween weekend, from Arkansas, since we no longer (sniff/quiet sob) live in Texas
So, no firepits, even if covered? Can I bring my propane cookstove? As cold as it is going to be this weekend, both would be greatly missed. . . ..
another question, slightly off topic -- it is difficult for me to walk long distances, can one of my fellow campers drive me up to the front gates (or actually, just behind the flushies at the front gate) drop me off and take the car back to the campground?
Thanks!
Mommadonna
No firepits at all (there is not even a bonefire this year). You can bring a propane stove to cook on, however that is pretty much the only thing allowed unless it is electric. No open flame heaters, unless it is the style of the Mr. Buddy (which has a tip and oxygen sensor) and they must be propane style. There is no smoking unless you are in one of the two designated smoking areas (one of which is the bonfire circle, the other is located on the right side of camp as you come in) or you located within your car and then all butts must be disposed of properly and not on the ground.. If it is a open flame you can not have it period, no matter what it is.
Here is a link to the TRF campground website http://www.texrenfest.com/camping
If you have any questions they have been than welcome to answer any questions you might have (which numerous questions have been posed to them)
Quote from: dlswope on October 25, 2011, 10:37:53 AM
Another question, slightly off topic -- it is difficult for me to walk long distances, can one of my fellow campers drive me up to the front gates (or actually, just behind the flushies at the front gate) drop me off and take the car back to the campground?
Thanks!
Mommadonna
i drive myself up to the front gates whenever I'm camping so I don't have to walk too far and if you have a handicap skicker then you get front row parking.
Greetings all! As my friends have been asking me this question and Ive finally given up and going to ask you guys, the experts. :)
they use a double turkey burner which is propane powered as a grill and is put on a table, but the rules say no fire.. how does this fit into the ban?? ie describe exactly what constitues a propane stove??
Id rather be certain than go out there and the "powers that be" say no then its a long hungry weekend going from camp to camp asking for hot things..LOLOLOL..
advice anyone???
Quote from: Tyrod Boshi on October 25, 2011, 01:00:18 PM
Greetings all! As my friends have been asking me this question and Ive finally given up and going to ask you guys, the experts. :)
they use a double turkey burner which is propane powered as a grill and is put on a table, but the rules say no fire.. how does this fit into the ban?? ie describe exactly what constitues a propane stove??
Id rather be certain than go out there and the "powers that be" say no then its a long hungry weekend going from camp to camp asking for hot things..LOLOLOL..
advice anyone???
I would think TRF would say no to the Turkey Fryer, however I would call TRF office and ask for sure. I could be wrong.
Hi Tyrod... ::waves:: ;D.
I don't think it would too big a of deal, provided our red haired friend doesn't try to burn his eyebrows off again setting it too high. Also keeping the fire extinquisher right next to to, instead of in a tub 'somewhere'. Lastly, I wouldn't have it on unless you are cooking, never leaving it unattended even for a second, making sure nothing and no one will hit it. Common sense.
Quote from: Tyrod Boshi on October 25, 2011, 01:00:18 PM
they use a double turkey burner which is propane powered as a grill and is put on a table, but the rules say no fire.. how does this fit into the ban?? ie describe exactly what constitues a propane stove??
If the stove has a tank next to it, filled with propane, which completely extinguishes the fire when you turn the knob on top, then it is a propane stove.
:)
Kidding, mate. But seriously, we had a stove with three burners (crawfish burner style), the flame on them was wide open just like a tiny campfire, except that the flames are completely extinguished when you turn off the burner. Not a single soul said anything about that, or me smoking (cigarettes and a pipe) at my campsite, sitting on a blanket and next to a large bucket that I had filled with sand to use as an ashtray. I guess that is their logic in allowing propane, as a campfire can't be turned off so quickly.
thanks guys!!.. Ill pass the info along :)
Current Policy in effect in Grimes County and at TRF:
Camping
Grimes County Burn Ban is in Effect. This means that the TRF grounds will NOT ALLOW the following:
· Bon Fires
· Fireworks
· Open flame fires (BBQ or fire pit)
· Open Flame Heating Devices
· Colman-style fueled lighting devices
We will allow smoking in DESIGNATED AREAS ONLY! The camping area will have a designated smoking location.
TRF will allow the use of:
· Electric Lighting devices
· Electric Heaters
· Generators
· Propane cooking devices
· Smoking in designated areas
Parking Lot
· No Smoking
· No open flames
Facility
The Royal Fireworks display has been canceled for 2011 based on the burn ban notice and extreme drought conditions in Grimes County. We are currently working on a suitable replacement show. In addition, the use of smoking materials, including cigarettes, cigars, pipes, etc. must be disposed in suitable non-combustible containers.
Does it look like the campground fire ban will stay in place for the remaining two weekends?
At this point, yes. It is a county-wide fire ban, not just TRF.
Picked up our new Patio Heater. Our deck space will be toasty warm should the temps drop.
I think you spoke that weather upon us. :)