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Title: Standing Flared Collar
Post by: LordPaulet on June 20, 2008, 10:09:23 AM
Hello all!!

I was just wondering if anyone had any links or pictures or info on making a standing flared collar (you see them mostly on women's spanish style bodices (the doublet kind)
any help is GREATLY appreciated
Thanks!!

~LP
Title: Re: Standing Flared Collar
Post by: Marietta Graziella on June 20, 2008, 02:25:40 PM
No help to offer, just saying hello.

So, Hello LP!  We were just saying, last weekend, that we hadn't seen you on the new boards yet.  Hope all is well.

MG
Title: Re: Standing Flared Collar
Post by: Lady Anne Clare on June 20, 2008, 02:54:55 PM
Are you looking for something like this?

http://maeva.eiriksdottir.googlepages.com/cranach_judith.jpg

http://www.marileecody.com/mary1allegory.jpg

http://www.theatre.ubc.ca/dress_decor/images/Ren_dress/Northern/mary_1554_tn.gif
Title: Re: Standing Flared Collar
Post by: DonaCatalina on June 20, 2008, 03:17:54 PM
I think this is what you mean
Medici Collar (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Medici_collar)
Ruffs and Medici Collars (http://www.vertetsable.com/demos_ruffs.htm)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Maria_de_Medici_portrait.jpg/462px-Maria_de_Medici_portrait.jpg)
Title: Re: Standing Flared Collar
Post by: Dayna on June 20, 2008, 03:41:14 PM
Queta's Closet produced a pattern for a Tudor overpartlet that has that same neck, I have (somewhere) a copy of it.  Ebay seller jdrobarts sells some Quenta's Closet patterns, maybe they can find one for you?

Dayna
Title: Re: Standing Flared Collar
Post by: Mythrin on June 20, 2008, 04:39:17 PM
Are these of interest?
(http://render-2.snapfish.com/render2/is=Yup6lPP%7C%3Dup6RKKt%3Axxr%3D0-qpDofRt7Pf7mrPfrj7t%3DzrRfDUX%3AeQaQxg%3Dr%3F87KR6xqpxQQ0exnl0xaQ0%3Cbr%20/%3Exv8uOc5xQQQloGlPloQllqpfVtB%3F*KUp7BHSHqqy7XH6gX0QoQJ%7CRup6aQQ%7C/of=50,338,442)
(http://render-2.snapfish.com/render2/is=Yup6lJl%7C%3Dup6RKKt%3Axxr%3D0-qpDofRt7Pf7mrPfrj7t%3DzrRfDUX%3AeQaQxg%3Dr%3F87KR6xqpxQQ0exnl0xaQ0xv8uOc5xQQQloGlPl0JPlqpfVtB%3F*KUp7BHSHqqy7XH6gX0QoQQ%7CRup6aQQ%7C/of=50,357,442)

To make it more compact here are some links
http://render-2.snapfish.com/render2/is=Yup6lJ0%7C%3Dup6RKKt%3Axxr%3D0-qpDofRt7Pf7mrPfrj7t%3DzrRfDUX%3AeQaQxg%3Dr%3F87KR6xqpxQQ0exnl0xaQ0xv8uOc5xQQQloGlPloQlnqpfVtB%3F*KUp7BHSHqqy7XH6gX0QoQe%7CRup6aQQ%7C/of=50,356,442 (http://render-2.snapfish.com/render2/is=Yup6lJ0%7C%3Dup6RKKt%3Axxr%3D0-qpDofRt7Pf7mrPfrj7t%3DzrRfDUX%3AeQaQxg%3Dr%3F87KR6xqpxQQ0exnl0xaQ0xv8uOc5xQQQloGlPloQlnqpfVtB%3F*KUp7BHSHqqy7XH6gX0QoQe%7CRup6aQQ%7C/of=50,356,442)
http://render-2.snapfish.com/render2/is=Yup6lQQ%7C%3Dup6RKKt%3Axxr%3D0-qpDofRt7Pf7mrPfrj7t%3DzrRfDUX%3AeQaQxg%3Dr%3F87KR6xqpxQQ0exnl0xaQ0xv8uOc5xQQQloGlPl0JPeqpfVtB%3F*KUp7BHSHqqy7XH6gX0QoQl%7CRup6aQQ%7C/of=50,332,442 (http://render-2.snapfish.com/render2/is=Yup6lQQ%7C%3Dup6RKKt%3Axxr%3D0-qpDofRt7Pf7mrPfrj7t%3DzrRfDUX%3AeQaQxg%3Dr%3F87KR6xqpxQQ0exnl0xaQ0xv8uOc5xQQQloGlPl0JPeqpfVtB%3F*KUp7BHSHqqy7XH6gX0QoQl%7CRup6aQQ%7C/of=50,332,442)
http://render-2.snapfish.com/render2/is=Yup6lPo%7C%3Dup6RKKt%3Axxr%3D0-qpDofRt7Pf7mrPfrj7t%3DzrRfDUX%3AeQaQxg%3Dr%3F87KR6xqpxQQ0exnl0xaQ0xv8uOc5xQQQloGlPl0JPaqpfVtB%3F*KUp7BHSHqqy7XH6gX0QPnn%7CRup6aQQ%7C/of=50,338,442 (http://render-2.snapfish.com/render2/is=Yup6lPo%7C%3Dup6RKKt%3Axxr%3D0-qpDofRt7Pf7mrPfrj7t%3DzrRfDUX%3AeQaQxg%3Dr%3F87KR6xqpxQQ0exnl0xaQ0xv8uOc5xQQQloGlPl0JPaqpfVtB%3F*KUp7BHSHqqy7XH6gX0QPnn%7CRup6aQQ%7C/of=50,338,442)
http://render-2.snapfish.com/render2/is=Yup6Ge0%7C%3Dup6RKKt%3Axxr%3D0-qpDofRt7Pf7mrPfrj7t%3DzrRfDUX%3AeQaQxg%3Dr%3F87KR6xqpxQQ0exnl0xaQ0xv8uOc5xQQQloGlPloQePqpfVtB%3F*KUp7BHSHqqy7XH6gX0QoQa%7CRup6aQQ%7C/of=50,317,442 (http://render-2.snapfish.com/render2/is=Yup6Ge0%7C%3Dup6RKKt%3Axxr%3D0-qpDofRt7Pf7mrPfrj7t%3DzrRfDUX%3AeQaQxg%3Dr%3F87KR6xqpxQQ0exnl0xaQ0xv8uOc5xQQQloGlPloQePqpfVtB%3F*KUp7BHSHqqy7XH6gX0QoQa%7CRup6aQQ%7C/of=50,317,442)
Title: Re: Standing Flared Collar
Post by: LordPaulet on June 20, 2008, 11:16:04 PM
Mythrin that didnt work to well...i just see blotches of red...
Thank you marietta I am glad to be back
Sagittarius yes on the last two...not so much on the first one...
So yall are getting the idea of what I want...anyone know how to make it?
Title: Re: Standing Flared Collar
Post by: operafantomet on June 21, 2008, 01:24:50 AM
Here are some various photos of what (I think) you're looking for:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/firenze3/santiditito.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/firenze3/allori1557-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/firenze3/bronzinoworksh1560.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/firenze3/allori1575-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/firenze3/allori1580-90.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/firenze3/allori1580-90b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/venezia2/robusti1600s2jpg.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/bologne/fontana1580.jpg

Title: Re: Standing Flared Collar
Post by: Lady Anne Clare on June 21, 2008, 07:46:35 PM
http://www.sempstress.org/patterns/drafting/doublets.shtml

http://www.sempstress.org/patterns/p_patterns.shtml

Hope this helps.  I personally love the site  ;D
Title: Re: Standing Flared Collar
Post by: Anna Iram on June 25, 2008, 08:06:13 PM
Lord Paulet, I searched for Medici Ruff Collar and came upon this:

http://katerina.purplefiles.net/garb/diaries/Partlet%20Maria%20d%20Medici.htm



This person does lovely work. Hope her site is of help to you.
Title: Re: Standing Flared Collar
Post by: LordPaulet on July 06, 2008, 12:20:58 PM
Sagittarius Uisce Beatha
YES!
THAT collar
:D
I will have to custom draft up a pattern to see if i can get the effect. 
Ill post results...
Most likely The mockup will be done by today :D im in a sewing mood, and just have to finish a sleeve and venetians and then can start on the mockup!