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Title: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Sheri on January 19, 2012, 03:58:20 PM
Specifically an almost 13yo girl. While at the Carolina Ren Faire this past October we once again found ourselves in the clothing shop near the Jousting field, which unfortunately I can not remember the name of.   However, inside we found an adorable corset in purple that she wanted to get.  I was all for it, however her dad was not impressed with the $95 price tag for a child that will probably grow out of it quickly.   At 5'7" I doubt she has very much growing left, but as she's only 12 we could see several more inches, so I can understand his reluctance.

I can make her one, but I know it won't turn out as beautiful as the purple one she found.   So I took to the web to find examples that I thought she'd like, and came across this one at GoodGoth.com  http://goodgoth.com/vampirella-dress-green.htm  A great price, and I don't have to sew it!  While I can sew and have made most of our outfits, if I can find something for a great price I'd rather do that.  So when I saw this one I could just picture her with some cellophane wings at the back along with some funky shoes, rocking that punk pixie to her hearts content. 

But it all ties into not knowing what size to get.  Do I get one that fits now, but than how far can I realistically let out the sides and still have it look good.  Oh, and by the way she WILL have a chemise on under it.  I may let her rock a corset, but I'm not letting her go bare skinned just yet.  13 (by Faires time) is a little young to be showing some skin, it's also why she still hasn't gotten the tail she wants.

Or do I get the next size up?   Will it fit fully tightened?  Or will there be some overlap in order to make it fit?   I'm not quite sure how it works, when you order online is the size with it tightened all the way, or with a gap between seams?

I would love to get her one of the corsets from MayFaire, but not willing just yet to invest that type of money into something she's just starting to be interested in, not to mention she could grow right on out of it!  Or as what's happened in the past she gets annoyed with pieces of her garb and takes things off, then of course I end up carrying stuff! 

I hope this all made sense, trying to multitask and form coherent sentences aren't going so well for me today.
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: isabelladangelo on January 19, 2012, 07:59:03 PM
 I would go with something a little less on the "sexy" side.  The corset is more meant for goth club wear than it is for the renn fest.   I know - she thinks it's cute.   However, its not practical.   Being 13, her body is not the same as a grown woman's -what that style is meant to fit.   It can hurt her.  Her rib cage, her chest, and even her length have not finished growing.  It won't fit her correctly either.  This is not the style for her.   

What she will be more comfortable in is something lightly boned that does not have curves. 
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Lady Kathleen of Olmsted on January 20, 2012, 12:57:04 AM


I agree with isabella on this one.

The green dress is lovely, but more suitable for someone older.

Here is an idea, an Irish dress. I drafted the bodice based on my then 13 year old granddaughter's measurements in 2010. Double layer of  Cotton Canvas Duck under Corduroy, then lined. The skirt sewn onto the bodice. Seperate underskirt, chemise, bloomers, and hat. She loved it. Now she has grown so much since then. Taller and more filled out. The ensemble is on a hanger downstairs.

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/47454_469561801279_568686279_7009027_4444648_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Rani Zemirah on January 20, 2012, 02:14:44 AM
I'm reading that she wants to go with more of a faerie character than a Ren character, if I'm understanding your reference to punk pixie?  Sounds like fun, and the green looks perfect for spring, as well!  If she's already 5'7 then she might be able to get away with this style, since she's as tall as most average women, already... and looking at the description, I'm not seeing anything that says it has any steel boning in it at all, but if it does then I would give it a pass for a young girl.  It does mention that it laces both front and back, with a modesty panel, but it's not really clear whether the panel is in the front or the back... so I would call and get more information on this piece before purchasing.  It also says it's a corset and skirt set, implying two pieces, which would make it a bit more versatile.  Since you mentioned that she would be wearing a chemise underneath I don't see anything too alarming with it, since it sounds like the rest of her garb makes it clear that she is most definitely underage.  The real question is, however, the bust and hip size.  Since the measurements only mention waist size, and there is a very definite waist-to-bust-to-hip ratio in the picture, I would suggest asking about the fit before purchasing.  You wouldn't want to buy something that will be loose in the bust and hips, because that won't be comfortable, and you don't want anything that is going to cinch in a 13y/o's waist for hours at a time.  The sizing chart is very definitely asking for personal waist size, however, and from that is suggesting which size to purchase.  The sizing chart of S-6X would also suggest that this is not an actual boned corset (or at least not with anything more than light weight plastic boning), and is more of a simple dress type garment.  As with anything of that nature, though, fit will be difficult to determine without trying it on, particularly since these things are clearly made for a fully developed figure.  Only you can determine whether it will fit or not, based on your daughter's actual measurements, and info you receive from the seller.  I would suggest at least giving them a call and seeing what they say... can't hurt, right?  

Oh... and there are some wonderful pixie characters out there who wear bodices, as well!  A really fun look is a bodice, short chemise and bloomers with a couple of layered tutus, or short ruffled skirts, such as these (http://www.corsets-uk.com/sale/corsets-reductions/sk-600-teal-ruffle-skirt.html), all in different hues, and with some awesome wings... and let her experiment with her own makeup!  This is what my almost 11y/o is doing this year, and she's really excited about it.  The skirts are adorable, the bloomers and chemise are easy to make, and the bodice will be an experiment of my own... but you could buy one on ebay pretty reasonably, as well!  We'll be making the wings, also, but they can be bought if you're not wanting to be bothered. 
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: DonaCatalina on January 20, 2012, 04:57:26 AM
Quote from: isabelladangelo on January 19, 2012, 07:59:03 PM
I would go with something a little less on the "sexy" side.  The corset is more meant for goth club wear than it is for the renn fest.   I know - she thinks it's cute.   However, its not practical.   Being 13, her body is not the same as a grown woman's -what that style is meant to fit.   It can hurt her.  Her rib cage, her chest, and even her length have not finished growing.  It won't fit her correctly either.  This is not the style for her.   

What she will be more comfortable in is something lightly boned that does not have curves. 

I completely agree here; especially the comfort part. After two hours she will be wanting out of it just because of the fabric its made of and the boning style. Too many people look at items like this and see the 'pretty' fabric and don't realize that it will be uncomfortably hot and itchy.
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: isabelladangelo on January 20, 2012, 08:12:57 AM
Quote from: DonaCatalina on January 20, 2012, 04:57:26 AM

I completely agree here; especially the comfort part. After two hours she will be wanting out of it just because of the fabric its made of and the boning style. Too many people look at items like this and see the 'pretty' fabric and don't realize that it will be uncomfortably hot and itchy.

Oh, yes!   I didn't even consider the fabric issue.   Thank you for pointing that out. 

Also, I was only a year older when I started going to Faire.  At that point, I use to *adore* the Unicorn styles.

http://www.unicornclothing.com/bodice.htm

The pictures are a bit deceiving- the bodices aren't that low cut unless you loosen the shoulder ties.  They are very lacy, pretty, and typically are out of a cotton with lace overlay. 
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Rowan MacD on January 20, 2012, 09:11:10 AM
   I do agree that a corset or corset-like piece is a bit old for a 12 year old, regardless that some kids dress like 20-somethings.    My daughter was all legs and height at that age too, (5' 8" by 8th grade) and I know it's hard to find age appropriate clothes for them when they have to shop in the adult sections.    

  If she would like a punk fairy,  perhaps a velvet waist cincher instead of a corset?  You could make a chemise out of an airy fabric,  perhaps with a jagged, leafy looking neckline and skirt.   The whole outfit would have room to grow for a couple of years, be light and cool, and a pair of matching tights and slippers should be comfortable enough for a younger teen.


 
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Sheri on January 20, 2012, 12:27:48 PM
Thank you so much for the info!   I too wondered about the scratchiness of the fabric, knowing her that's one thing that would be complained about the most, especially the lace at the top.  However, with a chemise on that portion wouldn't be touching the skin so it wasn't a deal breaker to me.

Saying that, I am absolutely loving the idea of the tutu, bloomers and bodice route or a much simpler waist cincher. I can picture lots of interesting looks with that.  And hopefully without the annoyance factor in fabric choices.

If nothing else, just getting various thoughts from others and what's worked or not worked with others is a wealth of information.  We've been going to the Faire since she was just 4 or 5 and dressing the part has always been a thrill for her.  In the past few years we've gone the gypsy route since it's the easiest outfit to make.   This past Halloween she dressed as the Dread Pirate Roberts so she may surprise me and not want to be a fairy but instead rock the pirate look.  And I'm ok with that.   Just want to get some ideas, especially with sizing a still growing child.  It's so difficult when they decide to grow up on you!  What fit fine a few years ago I now need to have hips/waist/bust adjustments in mind when trying to outfit her.   
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Dinobabe on January 20, 2012, 02:33:09 PM
Another idea is an underbust corset.  That is what I wore for several years as I grew in the "front". ;)  It only had boning at the grommets to keep it straight.  She still has a lot of growing to do.  Heck!  My body shape changed all the way thru my 20's as I finished becoming a woman (the last bones to fuse in the body are in the skull and don't finish until mid 20's)!  It was very comfortable and very easy to make.  My grandma drafted the pattern (I still have it, cut out of newspaper!) since the Big 3 weren't at Ren costumes yet.  I think they now have a pattern or at least something you could easily alter.  You can make it reversible so she has two colors to choose from.  It shouldn't take more than 1/2 a yard of each fabric.  I would go with cotton or linen for breathability.  Mine was rust red and then we trimmed it with green trim!
I imagine she still likes to run around, that's hard to do in a boned corset!  I also, at least personally, wouldn't buy a pre-made bodice or corset without actually being able to try it on.  EVERY woman's (or girl's!) body is different, even in minute ways.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Rani Zemirah on January 20, 2012, 07:21:48 PM
The underbust and/or the waist cincher ideas are awesome, and go really well with the faerie look, or even the pirate look, so she could have something VERY versatile with either of those, and with only the plastic boning they aren't too uncomfortable, either.  It's very true that the natural fabrics are always going to be more comfortable, also. 

Sounds like you've got lots to discuss with your daughter, and then the two of you can decide on something that will work for maybe more than one look!  Have fun!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Dinobabe on January 20, 2012, 08:54:45 PM
Oh!  Good hint for helping with the ideas.... have her draw what she wants and go from there!  I think all of us do that. ;D
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Captain Teague on January 21, 2012, 02:35:55 AM
Make one out of duct tape and cardboard first. Strap her in it good and snug and make her wear it a half day out in 80+ degree weather. You will find out real quick whether she likes those or not. ;)

And to play Devil's Advocate for a moment....I would make damn sure she is escorted by an adult at all times at Faire. A 13 yo in a corset will be more than tempting for some fools, drunkards or ummmm...shall we say....darker unsavory characters....there is more than one thread here discussing how young ladies get accosted even in plain commoner garb at a young age while attending and even working at Faire.


Just saying.
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Kate XXXXXX on January 21, 2012, 06:17:08 AM
Good point, though.

Oh, and teach her some Judo!
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Sheri on January 21, 2012, 06:24:02 AM
No worries, she's with dad or I at all times, always has been and as the only girl in the family she's kind of had to learn to deal with being arms length at all times.   She has 5 brothers, if she hasn't figured out how to get them to stop bugging her <or making her voice very loud so that someone else makes them stop> then she missed something growing up.  In other words, that child gets watched like a hawk anyway, she fears no one and will talk to anyone, so we've had to learn to keep an eye on her.

I'm a bit scared to have her draw something!  No telling what she'll come up with!  And while I can sew pretty decently, I'm afraid whatever she'll come up with will be far beyond my ability!  But we can go to the fabric store and have a look around and see what sparks her fancy.  And who knows, maybe what she wants is a lot simpler than I can picture.
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: isabelladangelo on January 21, 2012, 07:41:03 AM
Absolutely what Lord Dragon said.   I haven't heard of anything happening at faire but I have certainly heard the Pennsic stories.   Child predators are everywhere.

Also, if she draws out the outfit, bring it on over to the sewing side of the board!   We can probably translate the drawing into simple patterns.

Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Merlin the Elder on January 21, 2012, 08:35:12 AM
It was the first thought that struck me when I first saw the thread, but figured I'd be thought too prudish these days.  Truthfully, I'm anything but prudish. It never ceases to amaze me how grown-up some 12- or 13-year-olds can look. Puberty comes earlier these days than when I was young, or so it seems. One of my band-mates brought his daughter to rehearsal one night. I thought she was college-age. When I asked her what school she went to, and she told me junior high, I nearly choked. That's when I found out she was 12.

Have the brother that's 6-foot-40 to stay with her...  ;)
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Captain Teague on January 21, 2012, 02:02:46 PM
I have never considered myself prudish. Just as an old Marine MP and with a gazillion "adopted" children all over the country, I consider myself Damn Careful and extremely protective of my "Kids."  8)

And I ride this. Anyone think me prudish?  ;D

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l268/darkknightwalking/bella13.jpg)
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Rani Zemirah on January 21, 2012, 06:37:06 PM
Uh oh...  I think this thread is in danger of being side-tracked!  :o
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: BubbleWright on January 21, 2012, 08:38:17 PM
Sorry... I removed post.......
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Rani Zemirah on January 23, 2012, 01:48:07 AM
Oops... that should have been  :D  instead of :o ...  lol 


Sheri, I hope you let us know what you two eventually settle on, and post pics of the garb once it's all put together! 
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: captmarga on January 25, 2012, 09:16:38 PM
Doesn't K Dopita studio also have a pin that says "Dungeon Bait"?  I"m going to have to get one this year for my 16 year old, who is taller than I am....

A bodice I have no problem with.  But then again, I see gals wearing everything under the sun at clubs, whether it looks good on them or not, so I just throw my hands up in frustration....

Marga
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Adriana Rose on January 25, 2012, 10:37:58 PM
Hehe how about a Dungon Bait sash ala Miss America.i ;D

I wanted to make it for one of my Garland Girls.
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: raevyncait on January 26, 2012, 10:37:39 AM
K Dopita does indeed have a Dungeon Bait pin.  The sash is a great idea too.  The daughter of one of my friends, who has long looked older than she is, kept "forgetting" her DB pin a few years ago (she was about 12 or 13, I think), so another friend wrote it in sharpie (with the mother's permission) across the child's bosom. She never forgot again.
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: isabelladangelo on January 26, 2012, 10:40:12 AM
Quote from: raevyncait on January 26, 2012, 10:37:39 AM
K Dopita does indeed have a Dungeon Bait pin.  The sash is a great idea too.  The daughter of one of my friends, who has long looked older than she is, kept "forgetting" her DB pin a few years ago (she was about 12 or 13, I think), so another friend wrote it in sharpie (with the mother's permission) across the child's bosom. She never forgot again.

That is disturbing.   
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Anna Iram on January 26, 2012, 10:52:06 AM
Lol.....yeah...if there's room to write messages, maybe the young ladie's charms should have just been covered by a chemise to begin with. Admitedly I' m old fashioned though.  :)

Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Rowan MacD on January 26, 2012, 03:17:45 PM
Quote from: Adriana Rose on January 25, 2012, 10:37:58 PM
Hehe how about a Dungon Bait sash ala Miss America.i ;D

I wanted to make it for one of my Garland Girls.

  I just flashed on the scene in Mel Brooks' 'History of the the World, Part I" -where the Vestal Virgins put on their 'Do Not Enter' signs.
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: raevyncait on January 26, 2012, 04:59:11 PM
Quote from: Anna Iram on January 26, 2012, 10:52:06 AM
Lol.....yeah...if there's room to write messages, maybe the young ladie's charms should have just been covered by a chemise to begin with. Admitedly I' m old fashioned though.  :)



Agreed, however 'tis not MY child, thus I have no say in what she wears or how exposed her charms may be. Also, she was not particularly bosomy at the time, however she did (and still does) have a tendancy to flirt with just about any male, especially those a bit older than she, and, as she wore her makeup (again, I have no say, but I certainly wasn't allowed such a look at her age) in such a manner that she did indeed look 16 or so, despite being several years younger.
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Rani Zemirah on January 26, 2012, 05:45:16 PM
Hmmm... this is sounding more and more like the thread about how to avoid unwanted male attention for underage participants, instead of the question thread it started out as... and some of the posts are sounding a bit judgmental, as well.   


Anyone else notice the original poster hasn't replied to anything that didn't have to do with garb options and ideas?  Just a thought...

Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: captmarga on January 26, 2012, 06:39:33 PM
Quote from: Rani Zemirah on January 26, 2012, 05:45:16 PM
Hmmm... this is sounding more and more like the thread about how to avoid unwanted male attention for underage participants, instead of the question thread it started out as... and some of the posts are sounding a bit judgmental, as well.   


Anyone else notice the original poster hasn't replied to anything that didn't have to do with garb options and ideas?  Just a thought...



Historically, a little girl would have been in smocks or loose gowns as a child (boys and girls both wore loose gowns).  As she got older, she would literally have been dressed in the same clothing as her mother, in miniature.  So if mother wears a court gown, so would little Miss.  Lower-class isn't always a fitted corset/payre of bodies with a bodice over it.   

Chemises can be pulled up as high or low as the person wearing them and the person in charge of dressing them allow.  There are high-necked smocks.  The Tudor and Elizabethan bustline is famous, not much getting around that unless one wears a closed partlet.

Today's society has mangled body image and fashion to the point there isn't much structure.  Unwanted attention at Faire can be quoted by member of both genders, and all ages.  I don't see that it's just about the girls, though we do tend to see it as more problematic.

If the girl is wanting to dress like mom or a friend, and wants to wear a corset, let her wear one.  Raise the neckline instead of a fashionable/historically accurate low, and if she likes corsets, Huzzah, another convert!

Marga
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Anna Iram on January 26, 2012, 07:37:08 PM
Rani, I don't see anything wrong with sharing opinions about what might be appropriate
Sheri herself, in her original post, shared her thoughts about her daughter wearing a chemise a.d a tail and so forth, and I find 'Capt Marga's post interesting.

Raevncait, I really meant no judgement there. Just my own opinion.





Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Rani Zemirah on January 26, 2012, 08:41:27 PM
Just trying to nudge the thread back to the original subject, Anna!  ;)  I'm far too guilty of tearing off on a tangent to not see it coming...  :D 



Personally, I think the realm of Faery wear is far more open to interpretation than anything even remotely H/A... and even Tinkerbell wears a corset!  She was one of the very first Faeries I was ever introduced to, and I don't think I would even recognize her in some other outfit. 
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: raevyncait on January 26, 2012, 08:54:19 PM
Anna, no worries, I wasn't feeling particularly judged.

As I have no children of my own, and the only children I've ever had a real hand in dressing for faire are boys, I can't really offer a whole lot of advice on girls, but I think I would be tempted to start her off in something not steel boned. It seems to me that there are lots of fairy options, even gypsyish ones, that have a bodice or corset, but they are not boned, and more for show than any sort of support. I would probably start with something like that, and then allow her to try on boned/supportive ones at faire, to let her get a feel for how they feel on.  Make sure, though, that in that shoppe, while she's all laced in, she tries to bend in all directions that she might usually bend at the waist, so that before you invest in something, she knows if it's going to cause her pain or enough discomfort that she won't want to wear it.
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Lady Renee Buchanan on January 27, 2012, 05:47:36 AM
On Ebay, there is a seller called faireladydesigns.  Her bodices are a very fair price.  I bought 2 to wear in the summer when it's really hot and I can't stand to wear a regular bodice.  I'm not good at links, so you could go on Ebay & either search for the seller, or type in "renaissance bodice" and they will be in the list.

Although the pictures show a lot of "oomph," I can tell you that there is no boning in them at all and my two bodices don't fit like the picture.  They are both reversible, so you get 2 variations for the price of 1.

Bristol the past 2 summers has been unbearably hot for me, so I wore them quite often and they have held up well.  They're cotton, so I throw them in the washing machine if I need to. 

They are very plain, made from cotton, but if she wants to go a little fancier, maybe a patterned skirt could dress it up a bit.

Also, the price was under $40 plus shipping, and really, you get 2 bodices for the price of 1 since they are reversible.  The seller was good, too.  They are well made and shipped quickly.
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Anna Iram on January 27, 2012, 07:39:32 AM
I searched "renaissance  fairy pictures" and got tons of pics. Might help to give you more ideas. Some are more mature styles than others.

As others have said, a boned victorian style corset may be not the thing just yet. They are designed
to train the waist to cinch smaller and smaller. If you do decide to go with a fully boned corset, after measuring deduct 2 to 4 nches from the waist measurement to get a proper fit. So if your waist is 30 inches a size 27 would be a good fit to allow room to cinch. Certainly contact the manufacturer for specifics to their garment, but that's how I was instructed when I purchased mine.

*edit* I took another look at the green corset, Sheri. Ad it's plastic boning and not steel it wouldn't cinch as tight as a true victorian corset, so that's a good thing, though it still looks pretty confining.



As for room to grow, you can get away with several inches of gap and it will still look fine.

I found this site.

http://www.damseldress.com/store/display/2109/44/cropped-fairy-corset

It's just another look to consider. I think you could certainly recreate this look on your own as this site is kind of pricy. With just a few bones in the "waist cincher" and bodice to help them keep their shape it looks comfy.  Plenty of help in our sewing threads for advice with patterns and fit. Anyway I think this is way cute, fun and a little saucy, yet everything is covered. :)

Good luck with your search and most importantly have fun!.
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Sheri on January 27, 2012, 12:25:08 PM
Quote from: Rani Zemirah on January 26, 2012, 05:45:16 PM
Hmmm... this is sounding more and more like the thread about how to avoid unwanted male attention for underage participants, instead of the question thread it started out as... and some of the posts are sounding a bit judgmental, as well.   


Anyone else notice the original poster hasn't replied to anything that didn't have to do with garb options and ideas?  Just a thought...




hehehe  No, more like Original Poster forgot about the thread and just made it back.  Honestly, I love the back and forth suggestions.   However, most of them I've been reading for years so have an idea on what I will and won't allow her to do, and what to be on the watch out for when she does finally get to wear something of her own choosing.  I found the whole Dungeon Bait thread that was going around a while back extremely interesting.

And watching out for her is something we've had to do since she was a baby.   This is the child that will talk to anyone at any time, any where.  So she's grown up with us having to watch her.  Professional Flirt would be her pin if she got to wear one!

We still haven't decided what she can wear, I suggested she draw what she envisions but she's been to busy reading some Manga comic she found online to put pen to tablet.  Hopefully she'll get on the ball soon as the Faire in Rogersville, TN isn't that far away if she's aiming for something detailed.
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Sheri on January 27, 2012, 12:27:52 PM
Thank you Lady Renee and Anna, I'll give both those sites a peek!
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: operafantomet on January 27, 2012, 12:40:31 PM
Quote from: Sheri on January 19, 2012, 03:58:20 PM
Specifically an almost 13yo girl. While at the Carolina Ren Faire this past October we once again found ourselves in the clothing shop near the Jousting field, which unfortunately I can not remember the name of.   However, inside we found an adorable corset in purple that she wanted to get.  I was all for it, however her dad was not impressed with the $95 price tag for a child that will probably grow out of it quickly.   At 5'7" I doubt she has very much growing left, but as she's only 12 we could see several more inches, so I can understand his reluctance.

I can make her one, but I know it won't turn out as beautiful as the purple one she found.   So I took to the web to find examples that I thought she'd like, and came across this one at GoodGoth.com  http://goodgoth.com/vampirella-dress-green.htm  A great price, and I don't have to sew it!  While I can sew and have made most of our outfits, if I can find something for a great price I'd rather do that.  So when I saw this one I could just picture her with some cellophane wings at the back along with some funky shoes, rocking that punk pixie to her hearts content. 

But it all ties into not knowing what size to get.  Do I get one that fits now, but than how far can I realistically let out the sides and still have it look good.  Oh, and by the way she WILL have a chemise on under it.  I may let her rock a corset, but I'm not letting her go bare skinned just yet.  13 (by Faires time) is a little young to be showing some skin, it's also why she still hasn't gotten the tail she wants.

Or do I get the next size up?   Will it fit fully tightened?  Or will there be some overlap in order to make it fit?   I'm not quite sure how it works, when you order online is the size with it tightened all the way, or with a gap between seams?

I would love to get her one of the corsets from MayFaire, but not willing just yet to invest that type of money into something she's just starting to be interested in, not to mention she could grow right on out of it!  Or as what's happened in the past she gets annoyed with pieces of her garb and takes things off, then of course I end up carrying stuff! 

I know I'm late to the party here, and that you've gotten tons of feedback already. Just wanted to add my two cents.

For a girl still growing, I would consider getting a bodice/corset/whatever with lacing both in front and in back. This means you can alter the size quite a bit, and you can fit it to her size rather than squeeze her into it.

Also, consider natural fibres. No polyester, nylon or other synthetic materials. Worst case scenario, it will feel like wearing a plastic bag on a hot day. If the lining is natural fiber, and the outer material synthetic, it'll probably be OK, but synthetic material towards the skin can be brutal.

This one is far from the one you linked to, but seems to have functionable lacing in both front and back, and they claim it's made of 100% cotton:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ELEGANT-GOTHIC-LOLITA-BLACK-COTTON-RUFFLE-BODICE-LACE-UP-TOP-SZ-MEDIUM-EGL-/230550933365?pt=US_Corsets_Bustiers&hash=item35ade80f75#ht_911wt_878

A flamenco styled skirt could be a cool addition, or just a plain one with a cool hem. And you could change the colour of the lacing, and add trims and appliqués to pimp it up. Black and tons of silver and/or crystals would maybe be cool to a pair of glittering wings?
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Post by: Trillium on January 27, 2012, 02:18:57 PM
My niece has been attending faire her entire life and for the early years just wore store bought halloween costumes.  As she got older and always saw her aunt in "real costumes" she has slowly been yearning for better and better outfits.  Around 11 a friend of ours gave her an un-boned bodice with a chemise and skirt to go with it.  She loved wearing what others were wearing to faire and raiding my garb for accessories.  She outgrew the bodice in about 2 years and began raiding my cinchers.  2 years ago I gave her a yellow lightly boned bodice that was given to me but didn't fit right.  Its perfect on her and she loves to wear it.  This spring she will graduate HS and return to TX.  I've promised to make her a fitted bodice once she is mostly done growing and will be close long enough for us to make it together.  She is a beautiful girl and is always appropriate with her garb.  I see no problem with a bodice for your daughter.  The only issue I have with the corset is if it would really fit comfortably. 
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Post by: Rennigirl on March 06, 2012, 03:43:43 PM
I realize that this is a bit old - but, I do have something to contribute!  Really!!  :D

My 13 yo was going through the same thing - finally wanting a corset/bodice type thing and I was not really comfy with the idea.  She's not one to show off too much skin, so did not really feel comfy in a traditional 'wench' style. 

What we ended up doing it taking garb cues from Jasmine Becket Griffith and her goth fairy collection of paintings  http://www.strangeling.com/fairyart1.html (http://www.strangeling.com/fairyart1.html)

Love, love, love and stuff that can be adapted to a 13 year old. 
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Post by: Rowan MacD on March 07, 2012, 08:18:21 AM
   That will be sooo cute!   Never heard of the artist before, but I'm bookmarking that.
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Post by: Lady Aldyth on March 22, 2012, 11:37:47 PM
Hope I am not too late. Looks like you are going for the non-historical type:

THAT DRESS IS $36 at http://www.corset-story.com/ (http://www.corset-story.com/)!!!!!

If you look on the COTD (corset of the day) section http://www.corset-story.com/corset-of-the-day.html (http://www.corset-story.com/corset-of-the-day.html)... the prices are AMAZING!

I have a 16yo... so I know your pain! She stopped growing, but weighs 20 pounds less during cheerleading season! A good portion of the corsets on the site I listed have 6 inch privacy panels... which gives you quite a bit of leeway!

They have a lot of the corset dresses too (many do NOT have privacy panel... so read descriptions!) http://www.corset-story.com/fashion/corset-outfits.html (http://www.corset-story.com/fashion/corset-outfits.html)

I have ordered from them multiple times... GREAT SERVICE!!!!!
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Post by: Nailin on April 05, 2012, 12:12:57 AM
thanks lady aldyth i was looking for feed back on corset-story.com
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Post by: Sheri on October 27, 2012, 10:24:03 AM
Thought I'd come back and let you guys know how my issue with the corset went.   I didn't feel up to making a corset, and when I saw the prices at CorsetDeal.com I just couldn't pass it up. I could buy her one with a lot less hassle than making one, not to mention getting her to stand still so I could fit it to her better, so I went with that option.  Had no problems ordering from them and as far as a beginner corset goes, it's a purchase I'll make again.  And I can use it as a template to make her another one without causing havoc to mine.  The one we choose had the zipper on the side, so I could lace it up once and than not have to deal with it again.   A Large is big enough that the back could touch and she still said it had wiggle room.  Needless to say I loosened it while still leaving it comfortable.  So she has a while she can wear it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/SheriNoel/100_4928.jpg)
Title: Re: Kids in corsets or bodice?
Post by: Rani Zemirah on October 27, 2012, 04:03:03 PM
Oh, how fun!  And she looks adorable!  Glad you found something that worked for you both! 
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Post by: Margaret on October 28, 2012, 08:19:17 PM
She looks adorable!

Hope she had a great time!!!