;D
After much debate and adjustments, we have a set of rules to release for camping:
Rules of the Realm for Camping Guests
Location: The 170 acre camping area is located on the far west side of the patron parking lot, under beautiful trees and is on a first-come first-serve basis. Entry into the campgrounds is on CR302 (the previous Deerwood Rd. entrance is no longer open). Make your turn off CR1774 by the Valero station. No reservations required.
Follow signs and directions from the peace officer on duty.
Spaces are not marked and are not allowed to be reserved or roped off in any way.
The patron's campground is divided into two sections: Family/Quiet and Main. The Family/Quiet area is along either side of the road from the new campgrounds entrance on CR302. The Main area is the previous Patron's campgrounds, plus the previous overflow parking area on rows 1-24. Rows 1-5 in the previous overflow parking lot are now available for Patron campgrounds campers to use for parking only, no camping, with row 1 being reserved for Handicapped parking. Row 6- 24 is available for general camping.
If arriving before the campgrounds open, please form a line along the right of the access road. Do not park along CR302, as it is a narrow county road.
Cost: There is a $20.00 charge per vehicle per weekend to camp. You must show the officer at the gate your ticket to the Festival to enter the campgrounds. If you do not have a ticket to the Festival, you may purchase one from the officer on duty. The officers will accept CASH or CREDIT ONLY.
Facilities: There are flush toilets next to the main entrance next to the Quickie Mart. The Quickie Mart has two locations for drinks, snacks, ice, and other camp supplies. Porta- Potties are available throughout the campgrounds. No electricity, or dump stations are available. Water stations are available along the road in the Family/Quiet campgrounds. Please do not dump residue on our grounds.
Hours: The Campground is open from 10:00 AM on Friday (Thursday on Closing weekend) and closes at Noon on Monday. Please be packed up and departed by noon so the grounds can be cleaned for the next weekend.
Noise Restrictions:
In the Family/Quiet Campgrounds, all noise (music, generators, loud voices) shall cease at 10 PM.
In the General Campgrounds, all amplified sound shall cease at Midnight. Prior to Midnight, all amplified sound shall be limited to 85 Db at 10 feet. Please note that generators and drumming are not "amplified".
Generators: If you need to run a generator all night for comfort or medical reasons, please camp in the General Campgrounds and not the Family/Quiet campgrounds. Please be sensitive to your neighbors, use a quiet generator or place your generator in a sound blocking enclosure.
Fires: TRF will also allow open flame fires (BBQ or fire pit, burn barrel, etc.), open flame heating devices or liquid-fueled devices; however, individual fires must NOT be started on or in the ground. All fires must be in an ENCLOSED CONTAINER. The large central bonfire in the main campground is the only exception. Please be extremely careful with all flames.
Pets: NO PETS ALLOWED AT ANY TIME!
Garbage: Dumpsters are placed next to most Porta-Potties. You are responsible for removing your own trash. Please do not put garbage in Porta-Potties.
Security: The grounds are patrolled regularly by police officers. If you need Security Assistance you can call 832-482-5651 at anytime.
Weapons: We do not allow concealed handguns on Festival grounds. Any swords, rapiers, edged or pointed blades worn as part of your costume MUST BE SHEATHED AND PEACE TIED. You can secure them with leather straps or zip ties. No unsecured weapons will be allowed into the Festival site.
ABSOLUTELY NO DIRT BIKES, ATV'S, OR GOLF CARTS ALLOWED
Hi there,
Please assist as I want to be sure I am reading this correctly. In the general camping area we cannot have a stereo playing at all within our camping area after midnight? Not everyone that camps is talented with a guitar or drum...might as well say it is 'lights out' time for a lot of folks.
Bonny (and everyone else with a similar question): We have long discussed the best way to eliminate the "problems". Under law, we cannot make a rule that applies to only a few, such as "no rave music allowed at any time", but allowing "country-western" music, or only blue cars allowed.
If we must make an exception to one form of amplified music "car stereos, boom boxes, etc.", then we cannot exclude the blasting noise from a heavily amplified sound system.
The 85 dB at 10 feet is our guideline. Obviously, it the music is at 89 dB and not bothering your neighbors, then you will probably get a pass. Without this guideline, the noise restrictions would only be subjective and not quantative. The first will not hold in a court of law, the second one will,
The midnight amplified noise cutoff came from input from you, the Patrons. The popular band was between 11 PM to 1 AM. Also used as input was the comments from Participants, whose campgrounds is fairly close.
Understandable. While I wasn't one that was personally asking for a 'cut off' time I can understand the request by others, but all of this can become a slippery slope as I am sure you are aware. I personally was hoping the rules would be more in the lines of noise level at a certain limit and that would be it, but I know you all can't have 'sound police' at each camp checking to be sure it is within the rule. I'd rather see y'all making sure folks are safe and not being robbed.
So this is manageable if we aren't going to get booted for having a little radio or stereo (at low enough volume) playing after midnight. Heck it probably wouldn't be heard anyway over the drumming, generator hums and general vocal noise anyway.
Thanks
Thanks for the understanding Bonny.
We (the campgrounds and TRF management team) held long debates, reaching the best balance between comfort/safety and enjoyment.
Mike I forgot to ask; was this bit of information shared with the rave group that has the FB page promoting their event?
Quickie Mart, welcome to the forum LOL
Thanks for posting these rules ahead of time so that we can all be prepared.
Bonnie, With the size of the McLot camp, and the distance from the road, I highly doubt that any music being played will be heard outside the circle of those who are listening to it. But if memory serves, the Bonny Pearl is lights out shortly after midnight anyway :oP
Quote from: KiltedPrivateer on August 29, 2012, 07:57:05 PM
But if memory serves, the Bonny Pearl is lights out shortly after midnight anyway :oP
LMAO! Yes that does happen but I have been known to stay up later these days. :) There are quite a few in our group that like to sit around the fire as long as possible.
Yeah!
I'm not the only one who can't stay up that late.
;D
Quote from: Bonny Pearl on August 29, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
Quote from: KiltedPrivateer on August 29, 2012, 07:57:05 PM
But if memory serves, the Bonny Pearl is lights out shortly after midnight anyway :oP
LMAO! Yes that does happen but I have been known to stay up later these days. :) There are quite a few in our group that like to sit around the fire as long as possible.
I love to stay up till the wee hours!
I used to be a big fan of the wee hours... Now a days, it seems more important to be up early enough to get inside before the noon parade (o:
Some people like to use the Cannon as an alarm clock... I like to use it as a signal to charge the Queen's Pantry for a fresh Scotch Egg... :)
*best damn hangover cure ever!*
Quote from: Quickie Mart on August 29, 2012, 01:42:36 PM
;D
After much debate and adjustments, we have a set of rules to release for camping:
Rules of the Realm for Camping Guests
ABSOLUTELY NO DIRT BIKES, ATV'S, OR GOLF CARTS ALLOWED
Oh Good, StudMuffin is still allowed. Not that he does much in the campground anyway.
Personally I like to get to the gate well before cannon. Which usually forces an early bedtime.
Quote from: KiltedPrivateer on August 30, 2012, 06:27:55 AM
I used to be a big fan of the wee hours... Now a days, it seems more important to be up early enough to get inside before the noon parade (o:
I concur. Right after the cannon, some cheese cake and an ale from Brigadoon Brewery is a breakfast fit for kings!!
Quote from: Bonny Pearl on August 29, 2012, 06:21:01 PM
Mike I forgot to ask; was this bit of information shared with the rave group that has the FB page promoting their event?
I was wondering that, too.
Also, is management interested in website information about other (possibly) groups that are posting plans about raving at TRF this year?
Welcome to the R/F forum, Quickie Mart! Thank you for the information.
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I could not be more pleased with the new rules! Everyone that I have talked to has agreed with me. I am really looking forward to camping and falling asleep to drums and shouts! Back in 2009 we had a random bagpipe player come into our camp and we had the best time. Now that the amplified rules are in place maybe we will have more wandering musicians!
Quote from: Autumn Blaize on August 31, 2012, 09:06:19 AM
I could not be more pleased with the new rules! Everyone that I have talked to has agreed with me. I am really looking forward to camping and falling asleep to drums and shouts! Back in 2009 we had a random bagpipe player come into our camp and we had the best time. Now that the amplified rules are in place maybe we will have more wandering musicians!
I remember when a piper was fairly regular out there. Haven't heard pipes that weren't coming from a cd or mp3 player in awhile.
Love to hear the drums while sleeping (o:
The best sleep I ever had out there was long ago....I don't mind generators, they don't keep me up, but this night was particularly generator free and I was camped next to a group that was playing what I can only describe as war drums...I called it the Orc encampment and slept like a baby....The beers and mead also factored into this, but I want to say the drums even more so. But I'd be lying.
Quote from: KiltedPrivateer on August 31, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
Quote from: Autumn Blaize on August 31, 2012, 09:06:19 AM
I could not be more pleased with the new rules! Everyone that I have talked to has agreed with me. I am really looking forward to camping and falling asleep to drums and shouts! Back in 2009 we had a random bagpipe player come into our camp and we had the best time. Now that the amplified rules are in place maybe we will have more wandering musicians!
I remember when a piper was fairly regular out there. Haven't heard pipes that weren't coming from a cd or mp3 player in awhile.
Love to hear the drums while sleeping (o:
I can always bring my highlands to greet waking folks bright and early! ;D
Quote from: replicant on August 31, 2012, 11:56:12 PM
Quote from: KiltedPrivateer on August 31, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
Quote from: Autumn Blaize on August 31, 2012, 09:06:19 AM
I could not be more pleased with the new rules! Everyone that I have talked to has agreed with me. I am really looking forward to camping and falling asleep to drums and shouts! Back in 2009 we had a random bagpipe player come into our camp and we had the best time. Now that the amplified rules are in place maybe we will have more wandering musicians!
I remember when a piper was fairly regular out there. Haven't heard pipes that weren't coming from a cd or mp3 player in awhile.
Love to hear the drums while sleeping (o:
I can always bring my highlands to greet waking folks bright and early! ;D
By all means!! Bring the pipes!! I was able to experience the beginning of the competition 2 years ago in Edinburgh castle!! Music to the ears and heart!!
Bring on the pipes!! My alarm is Tartanic so I wake up to them everyday! I love to be in garb and ready by cannon, even if I am the only one in camp ready.
Welcome to the forum, Quickie Mart!
Count me among the "cannon is my alarm clock" crowd.
I stay up as late as my bones will allow. My goal is to meet as many people as I possibly can in camp each and every weekend so I spend a lot of time wandering about late. Since we camp in PR and our besties camp in Celtic Rogues I tend to go corner to corner at least twice a night. That much walking means getting up early is low on the priority list.
*and I'm also sharing rum as long as I have some left each night.*
its weird to have cannon as the alarm clock versus the "holy crap, gate's open! EVERYONE IN GARB AND MAN YOUR STATIONS!" alarm :D
I'd love to have cannon as my alarm..other than the fact I somehow end up waddling my way into faire about 10:30 regardless of what time I wake up, I always, ALWAYS seem to awake about 8 or earlier, no matter what I was doing the night before....The best thing, and this holds true at parties too, is when I go to bed drunk at 3 am and still wake up at 8 or before...with.out.fail. Thankfully usually not hungover and luckily not still drunk...I will sleep 14 hours if you leave me be sober, but drunk...it's like the blood remembers there's fun to be had, "...so get your lazy arse up...besides, I like this guy named alcohol and he says there's more of his buddies inside...introduce me to them."
I'm the same way Mouse. It's a rarity that I sleep past 6 these days, especially at camp.
I've come to respect it though..Sun breaking through the trees, dew on the ground as the slow rustle of surrounding tent communities stir, the light smell of breakfasts popping into creation, scattered by the breeze....me in a chair, bacon in a pan, Bailey's in my coffee....GOOD GOD PEOPLE! IS IT FAIRE YET?!
You'll have to add "...and Fraser blowing his fog horn bugle at 7am" to that list... ;D ;)
*I'll have to see what end of the tent you bunk down on...*
Quote from: Mouse on September 07, 2012, 08:14:35 PM
Sun breaking through the trees, dew on the ground as the slow rustle of surrounding tent communities stir, the light smell of breakfasts popping into creation, scattered by the breeze....me in a chair, bacon in a pan, Bailey's in my coffee....GOOD GOD PEOPLE! IS IT FAIRE YET?!
And now I'm sad that I don't have plans to camp. :'(
Ah, to enjoy our morning ritual again...rising at 6:30, moving the car to the front row, coming back and cooking eggs, bacon, Lil' Smokies, toast, bathing as best we can, getting into our garb...it can't be soon enough! One of my favorite things is to see the sunlight streaking through the trees, highlighting the smoke from the night's fires. Beautiful!
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Quote from: Lady Laura on September 12, 2012, 02:00:52 PM
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Oh what a great view!!! This makes me want to load up and camp on the road waiting!
*le sigh* ..... is it time to go yet? ;)
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Can Not Wait!!!!
Come out on Sunday Sept. 30 at noon for a walk-thru of the campgrounds.
I'll bring six pizzas. Others will be bringing dishes, dinnerware, and other potluck foods, just like we do at Sherwood. BYOB.
Don't forget, we are having a special get together this weekend!
Sunday, September 30th at the new campgrounds entrance off of county road 302, from noon till 5 PM. We will have an open house for everyone to see the new campgrounds, Quickie Mart, food vendors, and bathrooms. Food and some drinks will be provided. Come see us and scout out a good camping spot. This is open to anyone, free to get in. There is no camping for this event and not a tour of the Faire itself.
Will be there! Bringing a side dish of some sort, not sure what yet.
i may have to try and sneak a peek saturday when im up there.
Quote from: az on September 24, 2012, 01:14:22 PM
i may have to try and sneak a peek saturday when im up there.
where are you working?
I am working for Risa , Queen of the Gypsies at Fortunes of Valen. near the Odeon stage and pirates auction.
Gonna be stuck in Florida, but Clan P. will have some representatives there
Az, you're in Transylvanian territory. We'll become great friends if you don't run screaming first. :-*
Oddly enough, all people, be they off deep bass or sweet soprano, all seem to fall into the same kind of scream. I've started keeping a tally.
Makes me so excited to pack up and head to camp. Note to self - recruit someone with musical talent to our group :P
cant wait to meet people that are possibly as crazy as i am. :o
Quote from: az on September 24, 2012, 01:29:36 PM
I am working for Risa , Queen of the Gypsies at Fortunes of Valen. near the Odeon stage and pirates auction.
Cool. I'll be right down the path at the bookstore.
Quote from: ravic on September 26, 2012, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: az on September 24, 2012, 01:29:36 PM
I am working for Risa , Queen of the Gypsies at Fortunes of Valen. near the Odeon stage and pirates auction.
Cool. I'll be right down the path at the bookstore.
Ravic, I thought you retired from working and were joining us in our drunken debauchery or at least our happy socializing.
I can't buy you a beer at POW if you are working...
Quote from: ravic on September 26, 2012, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: az on September 24, 2012, 01:29:36 PM
I am working for Risa , Queen of the Gypsies at Fortunes of Valen. near the Odeon stage and pirates auction.
Cool. I'll be right down the path at the bookstore.
Weren't you gonna retire?
Quote from: KiltedPrivateer on September 26, 2012, 05:00:49 PM
Quote from: ravic on September 26, 2012, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: az on September 24, 2012, 01:29:36 PM
I am working for Risa , Queen of the Gypsies at Fortunes of Valen. near the Odeon stage and pirates auction.
Cool. I'll be right down the path at the bookstore.
Weren't you gonna retire?
Retired from managing. Time to let someone else be the evil boss. I did offer to help out a couple of shifts for the new crew till they don't need the training wheels anymore.
Besides, where else will the wenches know where to find me. ;)
Quote from: ravic on September 28, 2012, 12:11:19 PM
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Retired from managing. Time to let someone else be the evil boss. I did offer to help out a couple of shifts for the new crew till they don't need the training wheels anymore.
Besides, where else will the wenches know where to find me. ;)
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Why, at the Prince of Wales, of course. Otherwise I might get lonely. Naa, not a chance when I have StudMuffin. He always attracts the lovely ladies.
Keeper, youll have some new company this year methinks. A certain handsome longhaired man and I need to do much more sitting than walking this year. . .
Quote from: Lishy on October 01, 2012, 11:26:05 AM
Keeper, youll have some new company this year methinks. A certain handsome longhaired man and I need to do much more sitting than walking this year. . .
While I am sorry to hear of the circumstances, your company is always welcome and appreciated. And if I am the most mobile, I'll volunteer to make the ale runs.
Privy runs are on your own...
if the PoW would let kids in, we'd be there with ya. Alas, TABC doesn't distinguish between pre-teens trying to get drunk and an infant dependent upon the parents.
my friends purchased their tickets online and have to pick them up at will call booth. can they show the printout for the tickets to get in the campgrounds? we were able to last year
Quote from: az on October 03, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
my friends purchased their tickets online and have to pick them up at will call booth. can they show the printout for the tickets to get in the campgrounds? we were able to last year
Yes, shouldn't be a problem for them.
Quote from: Breandan on October 03, 2012, 01:21:50 PM
if the PoW would let kids in, we'd be there with ya. Alas, TABC doesn't distinguish between pre-teens trying to get drunk and an infant dependent upon the parents.
Don't let that stop you, join in. I'll make ale runs of you too.
Quote from: Breandan on October 03, 2012, 01:21:50 PM
if the PoW would let kids in, we'd be there with ya. Alas, TABC doesn't distinguish between pre-teens trying to get drunk and an infant dependent upon the parents.
Oh I am sure you and Tiff could easily convince me to do some baby snuggling out at the picnic tables for a spell. Fi can be my helper. :)
Quote from: Breandan on October 03, 2012, 01:21:50 PM
if the PoW would let kids in, we'd be there with ya. Alas, TABC doesn't distinguish between pre-teens trying to get drunk and an infant dependent upon the parents.
I know what you mean. This weekend will be the first without my kids in a very long time. Very much looking forward to it!!
Ditto what Bonny said. Just because I officially closed down the baby factory doesn't mean I don't still have the fever from time to time. :)
Quote from: Lishy on October 04, 2012, 08:13:39 AM
Ditto what Bonny said. Just because I officially closed down the baby factory doesn't mean I don't still have the fever from time to time. :)
Call it Grandbaby Training.....we get to give them back!! ;D :D
The expanded camping areas are great! No longer do we wake up Saturday morning with 5 little tents backed up against ours! One of the best improvements is the addition of dumpsters next to the porta-privies! Every year, come the end of the weekend there are huge piles of trash -- having the dumpsters to put it into is a great bonus! Of course there are still some idiots who leave their campground area trashed. Wish there was some way to find out who they are. However, I want to congratulate two young ladies on Monday morning whom I saw picking up the trash left behind by a bunch of slobs in the campground :) ! Good to see some campers with a sense of helpfulness.