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Title: What is this woman wearing?
Post by: gem on October 01, 2012, 02:41:08 PM
Stumbled across this 1569 Flemish painting, "Water" from Joachim Beuckelaer's Four Elements series (see the entire painting & series here (http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/joachim-beuckelaer-the-four-elements-water)), and was immediately struck by the unusual attire of this fishmonger.

(http://elizabethcbunce.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/joachim-beuckalaer-four-elements-water-crop.jpg?w=500)

She's sporting a fairly familiar working-class ensemble of chemise/kirtle/overgown/apron, etc... but what is that large black V coming down around her neck and over her bodice? I've never seen anything like it, and to my modern eye makes her look a little bit like an academic!  ;) If it's her partlet, it's certainly unusual!

(And while we're at it, I'm having trouble deciphering the pink/green, too. My first thought was pink sleeves... but she also has a high pink collar, so is it a jacket? I think the dark green is her gown, though--it seems to match the dark around her waist and just visible behind/beneath her apron. Would you wear a gown over a jacket? That seems cumbersome.)

So, Garb Detectives, have at it!
Title: Re: What is this woman wearing?
Post by: Auryn on October 01, 2012, 03:22:09 PM
On the green, I would say a jacket,
for the big black v, what about a shawl?
Title: Re: What is this woman wearing?
Post by: CenturiesSewing on October 01, 2012, 03:31:17 PM
The layers how I see them:

Smock
white partlet
yellow kirtle
green over gown
coral apron
pink sleeves
black wool partlet thing with pink lining

In the group of paintings she is the only older woman shown and I want to say I've seen the black V around before but I'm not remembering where.
Title: Re: What is this woman wearing?
Post by: Kate XXXXXX on October 01, 2012, 05:19:25 PM
The pink sleeves may well be protective over-sleeves, a sort of 17th C version of these:

(http://www.ppsgb.com/images/uploads/prod-images/cache/protective-oversleeves-600x400.jpg)

This nurse for WWI is wearing something similar in white cotton:  (http://www.clairegrey.co.uk/rd_grandchildren/don_oscar/Ethel_n_nurses_uniform.jpg)
Title: Re: What is this woman wearing?
Post by: Gwen aka Punstergal on October 01, 2012, 06:30:09 PM
Hijacked someone else's write up on Dutch costuming for you.. maybe something in it will help

http://lowcountriescostume.com/?p=51
Title: Re: What is this woman wearing?
Post by: isabelladangelo on October 01, 2012, 07:49:02 PM
Quote from: CenturiesSewing on October 01, 2012, 03:31:17 PM
The layers how I see them:

Smock
white partlet
yellow kirtle
green over gown
coral apron
pink sleeves
black wool partlet thing with pink lining

In the group of paintings she is the only older woman shown and I want to say I've seen the black V around before but I'm not remembering where.

This.

It's just a short sleeves green overdress with pink sleeves under it.  You'll see it in a lot of paintings from that era.

Pink dress, green sleeves  (http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/aertsen/vendor-fowl.jpg)
Red Dress, pink sleeves  (http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/aertsen/vendor-vegetable.jpg)


As for the odd partlet, the old lady in this painting is wearing one as well:
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/aertsen/egg-dance/egg-dance2.jpg (http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/aertsen/egg-dance/egg-dance2.jpg)
In this one, it looks like it's rounded in the front (http://www.friendsofart.net/static/images/art1/joachim-beuckelaer-market-scene.jpg)  You can also see that she's wearing the smock, dress, overdress, white partlet, and then the black odd partlet. 
Title: Re: What is this woman wearing?
Post by: markste on October 06, 2012, 06:57:42 AM
I think black is gothic jacket and Hat is related to pirates..