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Title: Help in Pronunciation, Please
Post by: Lady Renee Buchanan on July 05, 2008, 10:08:41 PM
I'm reading the Outlander series.  Jamie refers to his wife Claire as "mo duinne," which I think means "brown haired one" or something like that.

The other name is Sassenach, I think is what the Scots call the English.

Does anyone know how to pronounce these?  Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Help in Pronunciation, Please
Post by: Lady Nicolette on July 06, 2008, 07:43:19 AM
You'll love the story, Renee!  Athena turned me on to them a couple of years ago.  I believe that "Sassenach" is pronounced pretty much as it looks, although the ch at the end would have that sort of gutteral sound often heard with that letter combination, as in "loch."  And I think I remember that it is the Scots word for "Outlander."  I'm not sure about "mo duinne," however...Any of the linguists around these parts? 
Title: Re: Help in Pronunciation, Please
Post by: DonaCatalina on July 06, 2008, 10:00:17 AM
Sassenach
=
saush -a-nock
----------------------------------------------------
mo duinne
=
mow dhune (very soft D)

Or at least that's as close as I can get in writing.
Title: Re: Help in Pronunciation, Please
Post by: Lady Nicolette on July 07, 2008, 07:28:51 AM
Many thanks, DonaCatalina!
Title: Re: Help in Pronunciation, Please
Post by: Julianne on July 07, 2008, 07:43:11 AM
I was taught..."moy done".
Title: Re: Help in Pronunciation, Please
Post by: Tipsy Gypsy on July 07, 2008, 07:58:15 AM
It's a great story, isn't it? Such complex and very human characters. Which book are you reading right now?

Drop by www.lallybroch.com when you have time,and visit the linked message boards, too; there are scores of Outlander enthusiasts there :) . As with any internet community they've sort of evolved their own "language", but it doesn't take long to catch on and it's a very friendly group.
Title: Re: Help in Pronunciation, Please
Post by: Lady Renee Buchanan on July 09, 2008, 07:12:02 PM
We went to Bristol on Sunday and got home late, late, late.  Then last night I conked out, so today's the first chance I've had to read this thread.  Thanks to all for the info.  I'm on the third book, Voyager.  I read the first one, as soon as it was done, picked up the second one, finished that, and same evening started #3.  I am only about 50 pages into this one.

Thanks for the pronunciations and also the suggestions to go to the link.  I am really enjoying them and looking forward to reading the rest.  I don't know how many there are, but I heard there are 4 or 5, maybe more.

I'm sure I'll find out by going on the link.  Thanks again, everyone!
Title: Re: Help in Pronunciation, Please
Post by: Tami MacLeod on July 20, 2008, 03:10:58 PM
I am not sure where some get the meanings for some words here. I am from there and speak Gaelic way better then English, since i didn't learn English till later in life.

So i will try to help.

So i would like to know, where did you find the meaning of sassenach in Gaelic?.. proper spelling is (Sasanach.) ..pronounced SAS-uh-nukh ...There is slang, and English dialects..

Because it refers to a English man, or white man, some say racist meaning, while others its just someone from another country. or gentle man, and gets misused in novels alot. It is from the slang or English dialect .





Title: Re: Help in Pronunciation, Please
Post by: fluffy tail on July 20, 2008, 03:53:08 PM
I  enjoyed the series so much I reread them to see all the things I missed the first time. But the story and plots are great.

As for pronunciation... I sounded it out or something.
Title: Re: Help in Pronunciation, Please
Post by: Robert Phoenix on July 21, 2008, 07:38:37 PM
If you rent out the "Water Horse" the word Sassenach is used in one point of the movie. Just put the dialog on and you will see it and be able to play it back.
Jamie calls Claire mo duinne/mo doonye. It's supposed to mean "my brown one", but DG has told us it's wrong and has made the correction in Voyager,
Title: Re: Help in Pronunciation, Please
Post by: JeannieMac on July 24, 2008, 09:52:03 PM
I love that Series!  I just finished Drums of Autumn.  I listened to the first 3 - and now read this past one.