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Title: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: redkimba on October 24, 2008, 08:03:32 PM
How would you show support for an "ex-royal".  I'm thinking of Scarborough where it's supposed to be Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn.  How would one dress to show support for Queen Catherine?  (of course, short of wear a placard stating "bring back the Queen")

Would that have even been done?

Kimberly
PS - sorry if this is not the right place for this.
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: Miranda on October 24, 2008, 08:59:02 PM
Forgo the French hood, favored by Anne Boleyn and her ladies.  Instead adopt a gable hood, which appears to have been popular with Catherine.  Incorporate the Pomagranet, which was Catherine's symbol.  Carry a rosary or paternoster to show your devotion to the old religion.  Wear her likeness in minature form.  I believe the Tudor shoppe carries minatures of Catherine or make your own with a good computer print out and a minature frame pendant.  There are several such pendants/brooches on the market.
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: Taffy Saltwater on October 24, 2008, 09:51:36 PM
Pepper some Spanish in.   Refer to Queen Katherine and Princess Mary.  My favorite was when Londoners called our HA! HA! on seeing Henry & Anne's initials intertwined.
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: isabelladangelo on October 24, 2008, 10:06:57 PM
Refer to Anne as "the King's whore", carry a book of prayers in Latin, wear the more sober colors favored by the Spanish.
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: redkimba on October 24, 2008, 10:35:47 PM
Quote from: isabelladangelo on October 24, 2008, 10:06:57 PM
Refer to Anne as "the King's whore", carry a book of prayers in Latin, wear the more sober colors favored by the Spanish.

That may get interesting... 

Where would I get a reprint of a book of prayers in Latin (1530-ish)?  I'm new to this end of the game. 

I tend to play in the mid-19th Century.

Kimberly
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: Taffy Saltwater on October 25, 2008, 01:19:56 PM
Get a plain brown leatherish journal & print & glue a front cover for it.  Attach a ribbon to hang your prayerbook from your belt.  A crystal or pearl rosary would be lovely hanging from your belt. 
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: Friar Rohn the Chronicler on October 25, 2008, 02:28:52 PM
Oh!..... now I can really have some fun with this one....

1. Hire a small company of louts and scoundrels to shadow Queen Anne and call her "everything but a white woman".

2. Hire a big, burly axeman to follow her through the crowds....constantly smiling at her while sharpening his tool.

3. Just before she walks into a fairly open street, set up a game of bowling using mannequins heads (with her hair color) as the bowling balls.

4. Before she appears, get the kids involved with a game of "Hot Potato" using Queen Anne's head.

Friar Rohn
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: DragonWing on October 25, 2008, 03:29:09 PM
 ;D Friar Rohn, you are a twisted soul.  LOL.

For the prayer book you can get a nice clothe covered one at Borders for like $5.00 and you could make a leather cover for it. Or they have nice leather journals also.
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: Friar Rohn the Chronicler on October 26, 2008, 02:24:46 PM
Quote from: DragonWing on October 25, 2008, 03:29:09 PM
;D Friar Rohn, you are a twisted soul.  LOL.

Yeah well.....you might be right. I was a Sys Admin for one of my best friend's sports forum for about 10 years and you tend to develop a wicked sense of humor.

Matter of fact, in our city every year we have a huge gathering called the Scottish Games for one weekend. My young nephew will wear his new doublet and slops next year.......

                 .....with a wooden sign around his neck saying "We owned your ancestors".

Now that's twisted. ;)
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: DragonWing on October 29, 2008, 02:10:10 PM
OMG, omg. ROFLMAO!!!!   That is too funny.
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: VIII on October 30, 2008, 12:10:00 PM
A few notes:

England is still Catholic in 1533, the break with Rome occurs in 1534-35.  We still use the Rosary.

Scarborough, in York, was VERY Richard III and also very Queen Katherine.

The "Entwined Initials" were H and K as Catalina Anglicized her name to Katherine.

Instead of "Queen Anne" reference her as "The Lady Anne" but be careful doing this within her hearing.

The term "King's Whore" is STRICTLY VERBOTEN!!!  We run a Family show, you Pagan pervs!  Not only will Shannon and the entire Royal Guard descend upon you like a Biblical Plague of locusts and eat your flesh, but I will make it my personal mission in life to give you the "displeased glare" of King Henry VIII every time we cross paths!  We don't want that now, DO WE?!?
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: dragongirl on October 30, 2008, 01:22:03 PM
Another option is to discuss the King Mare and it's sister.  A reference to Mary Bolyn and Lady Anne. 
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: Love Good Wood on November 02, 2008, 05:27:07 PM
why is everyone so down on Anne?... i mean come on Katherine?... would you want to be married to your dead brothers wife... who is older than you?...

HUZZAH to Henry and Anne in the land of Scarborough!!!

Plus Scarby has the most authentic looking Henry VIII in my opinion, and our Queen Anne is beautiful
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: dragongirl on November 02, 2008, 10:09:49 PM
Well, I am Spanish so I am automaticly sympathetic to Catalina, especially since she was sold into marriage to Henry because his father did not want to loose her dowery. :P
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: Friar Rohn the Chronicler on November 02, 2008, 11:26:46 PM
Personally....I think it would be one helluva' Passion Play to drag through the streets of a Fair that would require these characters:

1. Poor King Henry the VIII being constantly pulled between 3 queens, a axeman, and a cardinal or a pope.

2. A middle aged Queen Catherine professing her undying love.

3. A manipulative, shrewish Queen Anne Bolyn constantly trying to ward off everyone and have the King to herself.

4. A young, beautiful Lady Jane Grey being coy with the King (maybe with a sheet of paper tacked to her back saying "The Replacement").

5. A axemen who keeps asking "Lord, may I stretch her neck yet?" to the King.

6. A cardinal or pope character preaching to the crowd about the Church's authority and the King's foolish choices.

Friar Rohn
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: dragongirl on November 03, 2008, 01:25:25 AM
Quote from: Friar Rohn the Chronicler on November 02, 2008, 11:26:46 PM
4. A young, beautiful Lady Jane Grey being coy with the King (maybe with a sheet of paper tacked to her back saying "The Replacement").

Um, do you mean Lady Jane Seymour? She was wife number 3.  Lady Grey was the young woman that they used to try and prevent Mary and Elizabeth from taking the throne after Edward died.
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: Friar Rohn the Chronicler on November 03, 2008, 02:48:30 AM
Ooooppps....my bad. I shouldn't post late at night when my brain is firing on half charge.

Forgive a fat ol' Friar.....I'm apparently getting towards the age that I need to start worrying 'bout "Assisted Living" and which size of Depends will give "a snug fit"......... ;D
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: redkimba on November 03, 2008, 08:29:02 PM
I asked a simple question.  Now I am in danger of not only receiving the Royal Glare, but a one-way ticket to the Tower....   :o

Kimberly
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: Friar Rohn the Chronicler on November 03, 2008, 09:40:28 PM
A ticket to the Tower might be survivable....unless you end up buried in a box underneath the stairs (like the two nephews of Richard III......).

My favorite medieval murder mystery....
Title: Re: Showing support for ex-royal
Post by: Welsh Wench on November 04, 2008, 05:28:22 AM
We had a really lovely discussion on whether Richard was behind the princes' murder
on the old board.

Blakduke wrote a wonderful post on it.

*sigh* One of the many informative and amusing topics lost to the hackers..... :(