Any ideas where to find "Spanish" styled garb?
I have contracted Lady Kathleen of Olmsted to design a new Noble Class suit (doublet & slops) for my nephew for the 2009 season. She has been a pleasure to work with. We found this type of material for the suit. It was a design that seemed to our family to be the most "Spanish".
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3900/materialjb8.th.jpg) (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=materialjb8.jpg)
Here is a link to her workmanship....
http://community.webshots.com/user/kathy0552 (http://community.webshots.com/user/kathy0552)
She's extremely professional, sends materials back to you for assessment and always works with requests of specific styles or changes to the best of her abilities.
The only other design work that I have came across that was "Spanish" that seemed to be on the same level of caliber of Lady Kathleen was this gentleman.....
http://www.nimblearts.com/Costuming/Costuming.html (http://www.nimblearts.com/Costuming/Costuming.html)
Both could easily be hired as professional designers on Showtimes's "The Tudors".
Friar Rohn
Try http://www.pendragoncostumes.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=pendragon&Category_Code=spanish (http://www.pendragoncostumes.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=pendragon&Category_Code=spanish)
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Thanks Guys! Additional suggestions are great too!
Quote from: Obadiah Jib on February 13, 2009, 11:19:57 PM
Thanks Guys! Additional suggestions are great too!
Depends on what you are looking for.......Noble Class, Conquistador, Merchant Class would probably look the same across medieval Europe and Britain. Depending on the amount of cost you are willing to spend, my best advice from experience is to locate a talented designer that will customize your garb to the best of your description. Find one that will Tailor make it to you're physical dimensions. This was was best advice given to me by a lady called Queen Mab from the OKRF at The Castle.:
If your looking for Noble Class, keep away from anything described as a "costume". Keep away from synthetic fabrics and always try to use natural fibers like cotton. Shop around at the interior decorater shops for stronger materials and fabrics that can withstand the weather and "wear and tear". This is probably the best advice I've been given. As for something specifically Spanish, consult the history books to find detailed paintings and illustrations. The material above was from eBay (to us, it was the fabric that seemed to look the most like what a Spanish nobleman would wear), the problem sometimes in buying fabrics is that the seller has a remnant bolt of 5-15 yards and will only sell it as one piece instead of a few yards that would be required to make a suit or dress. The material above came that way and wasn't cheap. I sent the amount needed to Lady Kathleen and donated the rest away. Be prepared to spend some time tooking for just the right fabric and style.
Accessories make the outfit. Looking around on various websites when we first started getting into garbing....well, we soon found out a lot of it came from the same place and a lot of the websites had the same stuff.
Try to be different.
My best advice is to save your money and go to the first day at your local faire and find materials and accessories from one of the many merchant booths.
Friar Rohn
O.J., I sent you a renmail. I also agree that you can't get any better than Lady Kathleen of Olmsted.
Quote from: Lady Renee Buchanan on February 14, 2009, 06:40:55 AM
O.J., I sent you a renmail. I also agree that you can't get any better than Lady Kathleen of Olmsted.
I agree! ;D
Quote from: Obadiah Jib on February 12, 2009, 09:23:44 PM
Any ideas where to find "Spanish" styled garb?
Spanish style is not very popular among 'off the rack' garb sellers.
I would add my vote for Kathleen of Olmstead. I make my husband's Spanish Noble Garb myself.
There are subtle differences that set the style off as Spanish - sleeves for one.
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What I'm about to say applies to the highest classes during the reign of Philip II, so anyone with aspirations would probably try to emulate what their "betters" wore, but the working classes still had to contend with the basic need to be able to move...
...having said that, it's my understanding that the nobles favored highly structured and stiffened fabrics that almost made them look like they were gliding (the women at any rate) over the floor. High necked styles and corsets (maybe even for the men, but I don't know that for a fact) added to the rigidity of the garb and accentuated the stiffness and haughtiness of the whole "look". Certainly a man's doublet would be highly padded and stiffened to help achieve this effect.
Just think "statue", and you get the idea.
HTH!
Keep in mind that you're not likely to see many Spansih other than nobles associated with court wandering around Elizabethan England.
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The Collar and Box Pleated Ruff. The tight rolled hem surge gives the edge a nice finish while maintaining a masculine feel. The Diamond designed decorative stitching through the shirt coordinates with the Diamond design in the lovely fabric Friar Rohn sent me for the Doublet.
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The sleeve detail.
Truly outstanding workmanship. Our family made a few requests, one being a very masculine suit for my nephew.....and Lady Kathleen has not let us down. What we wanted was a Noble Class suit (not to the level of Royalty....no frills and pearls) that he could wear and not "get ribbed" by his classmates after Students Day. The shirt looks great along with the detail of the stitching that she put the extra effort into to match the fabric design of the doublet and slops. This shows the difference between a true artist and master craftswoman compared to a seamstress who makes entry level costumes. The local Thread Nazis will be impressed.
I cannot express how much, (with what we have seen with the shirt alone) has pleased our family.
Although there is one view of the backside that also needs to be seen too.....
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Friar Rohn
Lady Kathleen sent me some updated photos of my nephew's doublet.....
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I'm really impressed with the work that Lady Kathleen has done above. How she designed it was outstanding considering that the base fabric material has all sorts of intricate designs inside of shapes. To me, when I chose it (with her approval) I thought there would be no way it would come out so "asymmetrical". Even the sleeves were lined up to match each other identically. I looks like what a wealthy Spaniard would wear. What surprised me to was the buttons along the frontside. I expected maybe 5-7 down the front but she must have researched some of the paintings made around the time of the Spanish Armada and saw that it was the style they used. He'll look outstanding when he hits the faire's this year.
Friar Rohn
I dfid that on purpose, Rohn!!! ;)
Quote from: Obadiah Jib on February 12, 2009, 09:23:44 PM
Any ideas where to find "Spanish" styled garb?
We are always looking for a few good Cabellaros Templarios
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Sorry folks...couldn't resist. ;) :P
Quote from: Warrior_Monk on March 06, 2009, 02:02:21 PM
Quote from: Obadiah Jib on February 12, 2009, 09:23:44 PM
Any ideas where to find "Spanish" styled garb?
We are always looking for a few good Cabellaros Templarios
(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n47/Claiomh/Templar.gif)
Sorry folks...couldn't resist. ;) :P
Neither could I - *eyebrow waggle*!
That is a pretty darn good job with that Lady K...
Quote from: Warrior_Monk on March 06, 2009, 02:02:21 PM
We are always looking for a few good Cabellaros Templarios
Well, he would probably be the most weaponized child at any faire. Here's what he has:
1. A Spanish rapier
2. A Italian stiletto
3. A 14th century crossbow
I have been looking for a Gothic mace and I found this one craftsman who makes outstanding reproduction weapons:
http://www.armor.com/pole193.html (http://www.armor.com/pole193.html)
We might pick one of the daggers too. I did find some new photos of my nephew's Italian bonnet today on Lady Kathleen's project files.
I love it. I turned out great. One of the comments my nephew made was that from a distance, the fabric on his new doublet looks like the "digital camouflage" that our soldiers wear today.
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Friar Rohn
Lady Kathleen sent these images of the pained slops. She still has a few minor changes to make, but they are pretty well finished. I think they're great.
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Friar Rohn
This is what Ron -Sir Dragon- came up with
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Lady G!!!
Very lovely!!
I have that same fabric, French Quarter by Waverly. I did a Doublet for a client back in 2005 for his wedding. Then I made a forepart to pin on with an existing underskirt to wear with my Mary, Queen of Scots gown. Then a Doublet for Lady Renee Buchannan's husband. What I have left, will be a reverse side for a tabbed Corset I am set to do this coming spring.
Well, I received my nephew's new suit several days ago. The craft manship is absolutely superb. There is no comparison to his first suit made last year by someone else to this one. She made just the right size, left plenty of room for growth. Unfortunately I was laid up over the weekend, the steroids have kicked in and I'm finally back up walking without have to lean on the walls. So, this weekend he'll get to come over with his mother and try it on and make any adjustments. Lady Kathleen's work has been so impressive and professional, she even bagged up 3-4 pieces of the accessory items (buttons, brass tips, ect.) in a separate container in case of any future losses or mishaps....boys will be boys.
We highly advise any future garbers looking for truly functional pieces of artwork that will be made to your expectations and style to contact her first for a quote. The work that she did on his doublet and paned slops was worth twice as much as what she charged us.
Friar Rohn
Finally found the one last item to compliment Lady Kathleen's newest design. I had been looking for some time for a set of "Chains of Office" for my nephew. I had been looking at some of the pieces from over at Sapphire & Sage and they have some very beautiful work there for Renaissance era reproductions.....but, I still was undecided. Last week I found this piece on eBay from a estate sale out of Suffolk, England and fell in love with it. After a small bidding war during the last few seconds (always use some type of bid sniping program.....) we got it at a excellent price. I thought that it was very unique and would look great with his new Spanish doublet.
What say the crowd?
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3505/chainofoffice.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chainofoffice.jpg)
Friar Rohn
You have the eye, Friar Rohn, for the unique!!! That is going to go terrificly well with Alexei's new Doublet.
Thank you for the kudos. :)
It looks perfect to me Friar Rohn.
Finally got some time off to take a few preliminary photos of my nephew's new togs.
You can't beat the craftmanship done by Lady Kathleen of Omsted.
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My favorite photo for some reason (he plays way too much Halo on his XBox).
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Friar Rohn
Friar!!!! Alexei looks so handsome!! Very Spanish indeed!!
On a sunny day, the colors on the Doublet fabric will jump out. I will get him another Bonnet made!! No Worries!!!
Very nice. He looks quite dashing. Now if he were about six years older...kidding, kidding ;D
Very handsome and dashing!
Quote from: Manwariel on March 23, 2009, 11:41:53 AM
Very nice. He looks quite dashing. Now if he were about six years older...kidding, kidding ;D
He's only 11, so I guess I have a couple of years before he goes into "Full Wenching Mode". This year I've promised him a short leash at The Castle and will allow him to hang out with a few of the playtron's kids. Although he carries a EXTREMELY loud personal siren/alarm and one of those walkie talkies with a 3 mile range. The alarm is louder than a car alarm and is fairly small and attaches to his kit belt. He's pretty responsible and won't set it off unless he feels it's a emergency.....
....of course I also told him that strange women huggin-n-kissing on his is not considered an emergency....
It is seriously magnificent! ;D