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Title: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: irish on May 08, 2008, 05:47:35 PM
What is the proper way to wear a Cavalier hat? Does it matter what side is turned up and where does the plume go?
Thanks!  ;D
{Thanks for the help with the plume. I found one at Maichael's}
Title: Re: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: willin on May 08, 2008, 07:34:38 PM


  if your right handed you would most likely turn up the left side.
  the sharp end of the quill would affix to the band under the turned up brim with the plum  displaying toward the rear.
Title: Re: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: irish on May 08, 2008, 08:24:44 PM
Thank you for the reply!  :D
Title: Re: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: Cloverpogue on May 08, 2008, 10:31:44 PM
groovy. Now I will know what to do once I complete mine.
I always had that instinct to flip up the left side.
~Irish: I'll post my pics of mine when I finish it if you'll post yours as well. ;D
Now I need a quill...~here birdy birdy birdy...~
Title: Re: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: irish on May 09, 2008, 07:43:31 AM
I went to Michael's as some suggested and found perfect plumes. It was 2 to the package, so may use them both. It was suggested that A.C. Moore, also had feathers to use.
I am not at the completion stage with the hat, but when it is finished, I will post it!  :)
irish
 
Title: Re: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: Lady Christina de Pond on May 09, 2008, 10:19:24 AM
Yeah i didn't know any better when i did mine and i saw several that were flipped up on the rightside so i thought that was the norm. Haaaaa! only after i  finished my cavalier's hat did i find out that Monday that if i was right handed which i am that my flipped up part should be on my left side. Ohhh well i still looked very fetching at fest
Title: Re: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: Mythrin on May 09, 2008, 04:55:15 PM
My understanding is the Caviler hat is a shooter's-hat because Musketeers were the original "riflemen". I was told when I started reinacting in the French/Indian war community many years ago that the right hand side was flipped up so that the brim would not hit the shoulder as you brought your rifle to bear and the down left-side offered some protection to the powder in the rifle-pan.
Title: Re: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: Thorr on May 13, 2008, 10:04:17 AM
Quote from: Mythrin on May 09, 2008, 04:55:15 PM
My understanding is the Caviler hat is a shooter's-hat because Musketeers were the original "riflemen". I was told when I started reinacting in the French/Indian war community many years ago that the right hand side was flipped up so that the brim would not hit the shoulder as you brought your rifle to bear and the down left-side offered some protection to the powder in the rifle-pan.

I was under the same impression, but that it was to keep the hat from catching fire
Title: Re: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: PurpleDragon on May 13, 2008, 10:14:12 AM
Thorr and Mythrin are both correct.  Traditionally the Right side was the one turned up as that was the side to place the butt of ones rifle against that shoulder.  This was to avoid knocking ones hat off while "aiming" the gun, and also to ensure that the powder flash did not catch the hat on fire. 
Title: Re: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: irish on May 29, 2008, 03:00:32 PM
Help!!!!! I am about ready to pull out my hair!!! :o
How big should the brim of the Cavalier hat be? I made one from a pattern, and it doesn't look big enough.  :'(
Title: Re: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: Lady Ann of Draycott on May 29, 2008, 03:13:45 PM
Quote from: irish on May 29, 2008, 03:00:32 PM
Help!!!!! I am about ready to pull out my hair!!! :o
How big should the brim of the Cavalier hat be? I made one from a pattern, and it doesn't look big enough.  :'(

Smallest I've seen is 4", others are 5" to 5-1/2".  Not sure if it's a personal preference or not.  I think 5" to 5-1/2" is most common.
Title: Re: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: irish on June 03, 2008, 02:38:38 PM

I added the ribbon, just pinned it to the hat and the hat went all 'limp'..... lost it's shape....has no real shape to it. Maybe used the wrong weight of wool felt?  Is there a special weight I should of used? Any suggestions??
It is ok for one of the kids to use, but not for my b/f.
Thanks......
irish


edit~ I found out I used the wrong interfacing! It said just interfacing on the pattern, but didn't say what to use. I found a site that said to use buckram, which I bought last night. I think this will help....and ty for listening to me complain! LOL!  ;D
Title: Re: Help with Cavalier hat
Post by: escherblacksmith on June 12, 2008, 09:37:05 AM
yeah, I doubled the buckram on the one I made to help keep its shape.

fyi, keep in mind that buckram is largely glue and thread.  So, if the hat gets really wet, the buckram stands a good chance of coming apart.