I really want to believe right now. And I think I might get disappointed. :(
vent: man, what a washout. :[
Ok this is boarding on harrassment. For a month you havne't done anything. no complaints, no banging, nothing. Then out of the blue you start it again. I will admit when I baby sat the 18 month old. Him knocking stuff over onto the floor, and playing with the blocks did make some noise on the floor, but he was on the rug, on top of the carpet. Yet you banged on your ceiling to make us "cut it out". But geeze it was 4 PM in the afternoon on Labor day sunday! What are you doing that you want perfect silence.
Add in that neighbors up here have been having arguments lately, girls roller skating in the hallways, and then the BBQ on the patio labor day night. What are you mad at us for we haven't' done anything!
Tonight I walked across our tile floor in the kitchen at 8 PM and you started banging on the ceiling. I start sewing , which I have done all night sometimes, for months, and you get upset at it's "vibrations" are disturbing you. WTH!!!
I have it on a heavy duty table , and the motor on it isn't that strong. WHat are you thinking? If I can't sew past 10 at night I am going to be up a creek. I'm a seamstress and I can't do everything during day light hours! This is getting redicious!
Man, do I have to do your job as well as my own??
Think it through before you decide to do something so next time you won't have this kind of emergency come up. Not my problem that you were too stupid to see the blindingly obvious problem in front of you.
Could someone please explain to me why it is I can't make a friggin joke? Sure it would be a funny thing if someone who was creeped out by bugs had a bug in her bed, that was a joke that it would be funny, not that I was going to do it. Not something to like start a fight over the second week of school... And I didn't even say it to you! I guess I'm most mad at the person I said it to for making it a serious issue.
Girls are stupid. Boys are more fun.
Are you F****ng kidding me? I'm sick of you.
I hate it when you have to travel for 3 weeks after working for 15 or so hours a day for the 3 weeks before that. I REALLY miss you and it sucks that I cried like 3 yr old when you had to leve again on Monday evening. I hope you miss me too and I'm glad that faire season is coming up so we will have whole weekends together having fun soon.
Well that sucks.
Ya and it had 1074 views.
And it remained fairly civil... (maybe I can get something done now)
"A place for non-specific discussions outside the realm of faire"
Unless it's my thread, then it's deleted without as much as a "how do you do". It is your site, do with it as you wish. I would even accept "We did not want political threads of any type", but I would have thought in the "Spirit of Ren" I would have recieved the decency of a PM or other notification. Apparently I am not worth the effort. I thought we were friends...
Go back to your videos of "three ways and beer", apparently they are more accepted than political discourse.
No doubt I too will suffer the fate of my posts...
Quote from: Noble Dreg on September 04, 2008, 10:45:35 PM
"A place for non-specific discussions outside the realm of faire"
Unless it's my thread, then it's deleted without as much as a "how do you do". It is your site, do with it as you wish. I would even accept "We did not want political threads of any type", but I would have thought in the "Spirit of Ren" I would have recieved the decency of a PM or other notification. Apparently I am not worth the effort. I thought we were friends...
Go back to your videos of "three ways and beer", apparently they are more accepted than political discourse.
No doubt I too will suffer the fate of my posts...
For a political thread I thought it actually lasted pretty long. I understand why you are upset, but I'm kind of surprised it didn't go down sooner. I hope you stay on here.
Many of my closest friends are politically miles away from me, but the friendship I have with them is far more important then our political leanings, in my opinion.
I might disagree with you- but I say
Huzzah to you for starting a discussion that did not go completely nuclear.
Now, since this is a vent thread- my back is freaking killing me.
Quote from: Noble Dreg on September 04, 2008, 10:45:35 PM
"A place for non-specific discussions outside the realm of faire"
Unless it's my thread, then it's deleted without as much as a "how do you do". It is your site, do with it as you wish. I would even accept "We did not want political threads of any type", but I would have thought in the "Spirit of Ren" I would have recieved the decency of a PM or other notification. Apparently I am not worth the effort. I thought we were friends...
Go back to your videos of "three ways and beer", apparently they are more accepted than political discourse.
No doubt I too will suffer the fate of my posts...
It was an interesting topic, Dreg. I don't think its deletion was anything personal.
Quote from: Noble Dreg on September 04, 2008, 10:45:35 PM
"A place for non-specific discussions outside the realm of faire"
Unless it's my thread, then it's deleted without as much as a "how do you do". It is your site, do with it as you wish. I would even accept "We did not want political threads of any type", but I would have thought in the "Spirit of Ren" I would have recieved the decency of a PM or other notification. Apparently I am not worth the effort. I thought we were friends...
Go back to your videos of "three ways and beer", apparently they are more accepted than political discourse.
No doubt I too will suffer the fate of my posts...
Yeah, I was pretty disappointed by that thread being locked, too. I thought it was civil, intelligent, and certainly fit the theme of "outside the realm of faire." I haven't been here long, but perhaps there's just some unstated "no political threads" policy.
Quote from: Xanthenes The Unbalanced on September 05, 2008, 12:18:58 PM
Yeah, I was pretty disappointed by that thread being locked, too. I thought it was civil, intelligent, and certainly fit the theme of "outside the realm of faire." I haven't been here long, but perhaps there's just some unstated "no political threads" policy.
I also found our banters back and forth to be remaining quite civil, whereas I have seen such discussions fall apart WELL before they hit the length we had going on that one.
Oh man, where to begin?
Well, I'm pretty sure you're not dead. So, in that case....*click click*
(that's right, that's the sound of me reloading)
Quote from: Noble Dreg on September 04, 2008, 10:45:35 PM
"A place for non-specific discussions outside the realm of faire"
Unless it's my thread, then it's deleted without as much as a "how do you do". It is your site, do with it as you wish. I would even accept "We did not want political threads of any type", but I would have thought in the "Spirit of Ren" I would have recieved the decency of a PM or other notification. Apparently I am not worth the effort. I thought we were friends...
Go back to your videos of "three ways and beer", apparently they are more accepted than political discourse.
No doubt I too will suffer the fate of my posts...
10 or 11 pages? 150-some posts? No blood? Not even any name-calling? Not bad for a politically themed thread.
Quote from: blue66669 on September 05, 2008, 12:56:28 PM
Oh man, where to begin?
Well, I'm pretty sure you're not dead. So, in that case....*click click*
(that's right, that's the sound of me reloading)
**Makes a mental note to never, EVAR, tick Blue off**
Quote from: maelstrom0370 on September 05, 2008, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: blue66669 on September 05, 2008, 12:56:28 PM
Oh man, where to begin?
Well, I'm pretty sure you're not dead. So, in that case....*click click*
(that's right, that's the sound of me reloading)
**Makes a mental note to never, EVAR, tick Blue off**
Well, if lamely using the term "EVAR" doesn't do it, you may be safe. :)
Quote from: Xanthenes The Unbalanced on September 05, 2008, 02:07:50 PM
Quote from: maelstrom0370 on September 05, 2008, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: blue66669 on September 05, 2008, 12:56:28 PM
Oh man, where to begin?
Well, I'm pretty sure you're not dead. So, in that case....*click click*
(that's right, that's the sound of me reloading)
**Makes a mental note to never, EVAR, tick Blue off**
Well, if lamely using the term "EVAR" doesn't do it, you may be safe. :)
I learnt it from reading the intertubes!
Why does IKE have to follow in HANNAH's footsteps? :-\
I am a member of several message boards/forums...
One thing that can bring down a thread, and indeed a whole forum, is politics...
This forum has remained, for the most part, free of political discussion. And, that is something I like about this site. I have seen too many sites brought down by political banter.
The thing about political talk is that it doesn't take much to set the powder keg off. There are always people, from both sides, that can keep things civil, but it only takes one person who can't, to light the fuse that will set the powder keg off. And, sooner or later, that keg will get lite. I have seen it happen over and over....
Some people are being hard on Bacardi for shutting down a political thread on this board. I don't blame him for doing so in the least. Actually, I am surprised he let it go for as long as he did. I don't think he meant anything personal by locking it off. I just think he meant to avoid a potentially ugly situation from happening. Kinda nipping it in the bud as it were.
Perhaps thing could have been handled better. I don't know. Maybe this forum does need a disclaimer saying that political topics are not welcome here?
Quote from: Storm on September 05, 2008, 09:16:24 PM
I am a member of several message boards/forums...
One thing that can bring down a thread, and indeed a whole forum, is politics...
This forum has remained, for the most part, free of political discussion. And, that is something I like about this site. I have seen too many sites brought down by political banter.
The thing about political talk is that it doesn't take much to set the powder keg off. There are always people, from both sides, that can keep things civil, but it only takes one person who can't, to light the fuse that will set the powder keg off. And, sooner or later, that keg will get lite. I have seen it happen over and over....
Some people are being hard on Bacardi for shutting down a political thread on this board. I don't blame him for doing so in the least. Actually, I am surprised he let it go for as long as he did. I don't think he meant anything personal by locking it off. I just think he meant to avoid a potentially ugly situation from happening. Kinda nipping it in the bud as it were.
Perhaps thing could have been handled better. I don't know. Maybe this forum does need a disclaimer saying that political topics are not welcome here?
Wait is this about the question I asked? Dude it was a question. I have not been on the forum most of the week so I had no idea who locked it or what happened. I just heard it was locked, not who locked. I am not being hard on Bacardi. Who locked the thread is not my concern, I just wondered why it was locked and why it was removed. I missed most of the thread...
Quote from: Rage on September 05, 2008, 09:32:31 PM
Quote from: Storm on September 05, 2008, 09:16:24 PM
I am a member of several message boards/forums...
One thing that can bring down a thread, and indeed a whole forum, is politics...
This forum has remained, for the most part, free of political discussion. And, that is something I like about this site. I have seen too many sites brought down by political banter.
The thing about political talk is that it doesn't take much to set the powder keg off. There are always people, from both sides, that can keep things civil, but it only takes one person who can't, to light the fuse that will set the powder keg off. And, sooner or later, that keg will get lite. I have seen it happen over and over....
Some people are being hard on Bacardi for shutting down a political thread on this board. I don't blame him for doing so in the least. Actually, I am surprised he let it go for as long as he did. I don't think he meant anything personal by locking it off. I just think he meant to avoid a potentially ugly situation from happening. Kinda nipping it in the bud as it were.
Perhaps thing could have been handled better. I don't know. Maybe this forum does need a disclaimer saying that political topics are not welcome here?
Wait is this about the question I asked? Dude it was a question. I have not been on the forum most of the week so I had no idea who locked it or what happened. I just heard it was locked, not who locked. I am not being hard on Bacardi. Who locked the thread is not my concern, I just wondered why it was locked and why it was removed. I missed most of the thread...
Nope...
It had nothing to do with you Rage....
I have read other posts on this thread and the Random Topics one that alluded to this. When I wrote my post I had not even read what you said.
What I said was just my thoughts, in general on political banter. Noting I said was directed at you. As you said, you weren't here then and had nothing to do with it.
My apologies if you though my earlier post was directed at you. It was not...
Hey guys, sorry I started this (not in an angry way, just genuinely sorry). All is well with me, while I do not feel right sharing PM's I thank all who dropped a line including the mods who responded. I am satisfied with their explanation and have no ill will toward anyone. All is good with me. Bad week, bad month, bad year...I need a day at Fest!
Now for the expensive part...if you PM'd me BEFORE this post and happen to be at MNRF tomorrow allow me the honor of buying a round. Each and every one of you are tops in my book.
Quote from: Noble Dreg on September 05, 2008, 10:22:32 PM
Hey guys, sorry I started this (not in an angry way, just genuinely sorry). All is well with me, while I do not feel right sharing PM's I thank all who dropped a line including the mods who responded. I am satisfied with their explanation and have no ill will toward anyone. All is good with me. Bad week, bad month, bad year...I need a day at Fest!
Now for the expensive part...if you PM'd me BEFORE this post and happen to be at MNRF tomorrow allow me the honor of buying a round. Each and every one of you are tops in my book.
Well...
I never PM'd you...But I'd be happy to buy you a mead! Provided I can get my wife up early enough to be at the 10:00 am meeting!
I am really resenting my MIL right know. The way Sir Dragon's health is right now, the last thing he needed was a stab in the back. I dont care she is his mother, she had no right to hurt him this way or so much. Her timing really suck!!!
Well, that's just rich, being considered stupid by someone who can't speak the English language properly and considers People magazine high literature. Your opinion doesn't mean sh*t to me, so shut your fat face and slink back to the trailer park!
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f248/HisGurl4Life/icons/smiling.gif)
Tyler is NOT your son, he is not your beloved Joshua you lost.... he is MY SON... I understand you love him, really, I do... but sometimes I don't think you know of the many lines you continue to cross. I try to let it roll of my back, but at the same time its crushing me that you are overstepping everything I want for him and want to do *for* him. And when I tell you "that had been something I wanted for him ever since I was in the early stages of my pregnancy" you responded with "ME TOO!" Well..... guess what... I'm his mother, I carried him, I birthed him, I raise him, I am THROUGH with being nice to you! You just don't get it! You had your chance with your children... so back off. >:(
I know I did not get a baseline mammogram when I should have. I was having a baby and lactating. Now I've found a lump and am getting a mammogram today. I am freaking terrified. I have four special needs kids and MS and I don't need a lecture. I need a hug. So either keep your mouth shut, or help me. Berate me after the results and for Goddess sake, if it is cancer, just shut the heck up. I am so going to go off if you lecture me just one more time.
I just found out this morning that as I am waiting at the bus stop with my son that a lady across the street uses her dad's address for her child so her child can get bused to school. she shows up at 830 am every morning to get her kid on the bus and then after the bus leaves she takes off. I so want to call the school on this. GRRRRRRR....she doesnt live there, I dont know where she lives but that is wrong in my book. She probably doesnt even pay for it either.
Quote from: Storm on September 05, 2008, 09:16:24 PM
I am a member of several message boards/forums...
One thing that can bring down a thread, and indeed a whole forum, is politics...
This forum has remained, for the most part, free of political discussion. And, that is something I like about this site. I have seen too many sites brought down by political banter.
The thing about political talk is that it doesn't take much to set the powder keg off. There are always people, from both sides, that can keep things civil, but it only takes one person who can't, to light the fuse that will set the powder keg off. And, sooner or later, that keg will get lite. I have seen it happen over and over....
For some reason, most Americans are able to talk more openly and candidly about their favorite sports teams than about the folks we hire to run our nation. We're also able to admit more faults in our sports teams than our chosen parties (I'm a Detroit Lions fan, so I'll admit there's a lot to critique). Discussing politics is apparently the third rail of social conversation. A complete lack of real discourse likely explains why our elections have come to resemble American Idol more than thoughtful selections of our country's leaders.
Dogma and identity politics rule the day. Viva le democracy.
As for the thread in question, I certainly don't agree with axing a very civil conversation between mature adults on the basis of "what could have been", but hey, it's not my board.
Okay, so they found the lump I found and it was nothing, BUT they found a VERY suspicious lump in the other breast and I have to see an oncologist. It's important to see one soon, so when do they make the appointment? When? OCT-FREAKING-TOBER NINTH!!!! I'm supposed to just sit around and let my Tylenol with an ear grow till then? (that's what it looks like). I don't think so, Mr. I'm about to call oncology and toss a cow. I mean a whole cow. Horns and all. Dang waiting times. My breast doc wanted me to see them next week, at the latest. Grrrrrrrrr.
And again, people are lecturing me about waiting for my baseline. Shut up, just shut up and be quiet and say nothing. It's better than a, "Well, I hope this is a wake up call." No kidding. Go away.
Harrumph.
Poor receptionist at the oncology unit will be writing in here next about unreasonable women.
Nice try, Elmer, but it's STILL not all about you. Never was, never will be. ::)
Quote from: nliedel on September 10, 2008, 02:54:39 PM
Okay, so they found the lump I found and it was nothing, BUT they found a VERY suspicious lump in the other breast and I have to see an oncologist. It's important to see one soon, so when do they make the appointment? When? OCT-FREAKING-TOBER NINTH!!!! I'm supposed to just sit around and let my Tylenol with an ear grow till then? (that's what it looks like). I don't think so, Mr. I'm about to call oncology and toss a cow. I mean a whole cow. Horns and all. Dang waiting times. My breast doc wanted me to see them next week, at the latest. Grrrrrrrrr.
And again, people are lecturing me about waiting for my baseline. Shut up, just shut up and be quiet and say nothing. It's better than a, "Well, I hope this is a wake up call." No kidding. Go away.
Harrumph.
Poor receptionist at the oncology unit will be writing in here next about unreasonable women.
For what it's worth, I don't think you are being unreasonable. Thus practice that has developed about giving people appointments well into the future when it is obvious that they need it now just sucks!
Quote from: Lady_Glorianna on September 10, 2008, 03:12:45 PM
Quote from: nliedel on September 10, 2008, 02:54:39 PM
Okay, so they found the lump I found and it was nothing, BUT they found a VERY suspicious lump in the other breast and I have to see an oncologist. It's important to see one soon, so when do they make the appointment? When? OCT-FREAKING-TOBER NINTH!!!! I'm supposed to just sit around and let my Tylenol with an ear grow till then? (that's what it looks like). I don't think so, Mr. I'm about to call oncology and toss a cow. I mean a whole cow. Horns and all. Dang waiting times. My breast doc wanted me to see them next week, at the latest. Grrrrrrrrr.
And again, people are lecturing me about waiting for my baseline. Shut up, just shut up and be quiet and say nothing. It's better than a, "Well, I hope this is a wake up call." No kidding. Go away.
Harrumph.
Poor receptionist at the oncology unit will be writing in here next about unreasonable women.
For what it's worth, I don't think you are being unreasonable. Thus practice that has developed about giving people appointments well into the future when it is obvious that they need it now just sucks!
Gotta love Health Care! They're probably banking on the problem just "going away" between now and then.
A friend of mine went through something similar with an MRI. His Dr said he needed it, his Ins Company said "Yea...not so much"
Quote from: Xanthenes The Unbalanced on September 09, 2008, 09:52:46 AM
Quote from: Storm on September 05, 2008, 09:16:24 PM
I am a member of several message boards/forums...
One thing that can bring down a thread, and indeed a whole forum, is politics...
This forum has remained, for the most part, free of political discussion. And, that is something I like about this site. I have seen too many sites brought down by political banter.
The thing about political talk is that it doesn't take much to set the powder keg off. There are always people, from both sides, that can keep things civil, but it only takes one person who can't, to light the fuse that will set the powder keg off. And, sooner or later, that keg will get lite. I have seen it happen over and over....
For some reason, most Americans are able to talk more openly and candidly about their favorite sports teams than about the folks we hire to run our nation. We're also able to admit more faults in our sports teams than our chosen parties (I'm a Detroit Lions fan, so I'll admit there's a lot to critique). Discussing politics is apparently the third rail of social conversation. A complete lack of real discourse likely explains why our elections have come to resemble American Idol more than thoughtful selections of our country's leaders.
Dogma and identity politics rule the day. Viva le democracy.
As for the thread in question, I certainly don't agree with axing a very civil conversation between mature adults on the basis of "what could have been", but hey, it's not my board.
Unfortunately, I follow politics more closely then most. I just don't talk about them is all. The thing I have learned about political threads on forums is that most people who do post to them already have their minds made up anyway. Nothing anyone else says is going change their minds either. Discussions get circular in nature. The same things get re-hashed time and time again. There are some people who can keep things civil. But, as I said earlier, in my experiences, things only stay civil for so long. Sooner or later some newbie, who takes themselves way to seriously, shows up guns a blazing looking to pick something with anyone who dares to disagree with them, or some pot stirrer shows up (who really doesn't care about the topic) who just wants to push some buttons and see what happens. Some one gets drunk and bored some night and tosses in a little bomb shell just to see what will happen and who will bite.
I agree with you. The thread in question did remain civil. Should it have been axed? I guess that's a matter of opinion. I never would have let it got started based on my past experiences in other forums. Been there, done that. I wouldn't give it a chance to start up again.
You...are completely insufferable. Yes, I was irritated. Hell, I was REALLY angry. So, I tried to vent to you, because I thought you'd understand. Oh, silly me! I thought that since -you- vented about the same thing yesterday, I was allowed to be angry about it today. At least I have a -right- to be angry about it. Your hours got cut for ONE STINKIN' WEEK! Mine? Yeah. I was down to 32 hours two weeks ago. Last week, I got my full hours. Now? For the next three weeks, I'm down to 32 again, and you're sitting pretty with your full hours. I -know- it's not your fault, and I was NOT angry with you. Yes, I said "It looks like you're not going to have to worry about having your hours cut." I said it because you are NOT having your hours cut. Yours haven't been touched. They're golden. Mine, on the other hand, have. And stop giving me that "Don't take it personally" bull. I'm sure you'll be pissed when they -do- cut your hours the three weeks after that, and it'll be all MY fault because I complained. Well, the deal was, we'd alternate. One week my hours would be cut, the next yours would. Since that hasn't worked out, I brought it to our manager's attention. But when I left the room to go talk to said manager, YOU called our effing co-manager and personnel and told them that I just WALKED OUT! Didn't have the foresight to page ME first to see what was up. Just told them I had walked out. Thankfully, I heard you screaming into the phone from the next room over, so I walked into their office and let them know that, while I had walked out of the office to seek out our assistant, I had not actually "walked out."
I'm so sick of your "Well, my budget is dependent on having all of my hours" CRAP. Your husband makes THREE TIMES what mine does. I know that these are some hard times, financially, for everyone, but do NOT pretend that you have it worse off than me. If you're that hard-up, stop driving the SUV and start driving your other car. You know, the Lincoln. You're constantly getting your carpets cleaned and buying new furniture and clothes, while I'm struggling to put gas in my 15-year old car so I can come to a job where people who are in less important positions and have only been with the company for a year or two are bringing home a good deal more money than me, when I've been there nearly 6 years.
I'm sure you're thinking it'll just drive me out, and that my being gone "won't make much difference," since you apparently know how to do it all PERFECTLY. Thing is, lady, I spend time EVERY WEEK correcting YOUR mistakes. I won't pretend I've never made my own mistakes. I know I have, but -I- own up to them. I can't even tell you about yours, and I can't even try to teach you anything, because you get all offended and say I'm being bossy and make snide "Yes, teacher. I'll do better next time" comments. Woman, you are nearly 60 years old. Grow up a little, okay?
Give me a friggin break!!! Just because there is not a funeral, I have to use my vacation time?!?! I need time to grieve...that's why it's called grievance leave... Do you really want me sitting at the office crying????
And...You already screwed me out of 1/2 a day vacation leave when we had to close for the last hurricane scare. It's doesn't matter if I had time scheduled off...if you do it to me again I'm gonna be really ticked off!!!!!!!
I just got my new pirate coat from a seamstress I found on ebay. I really liked her coats. she had good ratings from buyers on her coats. I have waited over two months when she said it takes 3 weeks. The dang thing doesnt even fit right! It is flimsy, she didnt even put in any lining to stiffen it up. Its not worth sending it back cuz what can she do? Ive waited this long, I would have to wait longer for her to try and make it right.
I think I will go back to the first gal I tried and have her make a new one over the winter. Or maybe just take the hit and wear it and look stupid....
Quote from: Storm on September 10, 2008, 04:44:20 PM
Unfortunately, I follow politics more closely then most. I just don't talk about them is all. The thing I have learned about political threads on forums is that most people who do post to them already have their minds made up anyway. Nothing anyone else says is going change their minds either. Discussions get circular in nature. The same things get re-hashed time and time again. There are some people who can keep things civil. But, as I said earlier, in my experiences, things only stay civil for so long. Sooner or later some newbie, who takes themselves way to seriously, shows up guns a blazing looking to pick something with anyone who dares to disagree with them, or some pot stirrer shows up (who really doesn't care about the topic) who just wants to push some buttons and see what happens. Some one gets drunk and bored some night and tosses in a little bomb shell just to see what will happen and who will bite.
I agree with you. The thread in question did remain civil. Should it have been axed? I guess that's a matter of opinion. I never would have let it got started based on my past experiences in other forums. Been there, done that. I wouldn't give it a chance to start up again.
Isn't it amazing how the
ghost of a political thread has the power to start it's own argument? "It sucks that they axed it!" "Yea, but they had to!" "Yea, but it still sucks!" and so on and so on. I've come to realize that "They" did what "They" did based on prior experience, because it seems absolutely
everyone has their "On this other forum..." story. Unfortunately, to me at least, it seems the more it's talked about, the more it comes across as "You can't be trusted with your toys. We saved you from yourselves."
In the words of the great Forrest Gump..."That's all I got ta say 'bout that"
Quote from: Storm on September 10, 2008, 04:44:20 PM
Unfortunately, I follow politics more closely then most. I just don't talk about them is all. The thing I have learned about political threads on forums is that most people who do post to them already have their minds made up anyway. Nothing anyone else says is going change their minds either. Discussions get circular in nature. The same things get re-hashed time and time again. There are some people who can keep things civil. But, as I said earlier, in my experiences, things only stay civil for so long. Sooner or later some newbie, who takes themselves way to seriously, shows up guns a blazing looking to pick something with anyone who dares to disagree with them, or some pot stirrer shows up (who really doesn't care about the topic) who just wants to push some buttons and see what happens. Some one gets drunk and bored some night and tosses in a little bomb shell just to see what will happen and who will bite.
I agree with you. The thread in question did remain civil. Should it have been axed? I guess that's a matter of opinion. I never would have let it got started based on my past experiences in other forums. Been there, done that. I wouldn't give it a chance to start up again.
A few things stand out to me here, and in that entire little episode in general; things which I find at least mildly insufferable. I mean, as long as we're venting...
1. People who claim they simply "know better" when it comes to other adults, be it from a past experience, a hunch, or something they picked up on an old episode of Barney Miller. Really, I'm a big kid now. I know what a civil discussion looks like and everyone participating in it was participating at a level-headed, mature level; regardless of what may or may not have happened in some thread on another website.
2. Skittishness. If there *might* be a disagreement, bring forth the axe and lop off the head of the offending discussion. Look, as I've said, it's not my board. If I were paying for it, I could make the calls. I respect that. I'm a business owner, and I don't let people wander in off the streets and make the rules. That said, every single comment I've seen in opposition that thread has been chock full of "what if", "it could have", "i know a guy who knew a guy", "i was in a thread arguing the comparative qualities of Bob Dole and Jabba The Hut once and it went nuclear...", etc. Honestly, could somebody pass the crystal ball? I have some more stocks I'd like to pick up.
3. The inability of people to just skip a thread, change the channel, etc. I don't like American Idol. I'm not going to disparage it, but I just don't like it. So, I developed this handy response mechanism to American Idol: I just don't watch it. While I appreciate that the last thing in the world the mods want is an inbox full of complaints, I'm left wondering why the offended individuals were even reading it in the first place. It took all of the first four words to identify that thread as political. Folks, just skip it.
Again, no problem in the world that it was killed. He who owns the board makes the call. But really folks, I think we've had just about enough amateur psychology and faulty causality.
Quote from: Xanthenes The Unbalanced on September 10, 2008, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: Storm on September 10, 2008, 04:44:20 PM
Unfortunately, I follow politics more closely then most. I just don't talk about them is all. The thing I have learned about political threads on forums is that most people who do post to them already have their minds made up anyway. Nothing anyone else says is going change their minds either. Discussions get circular in nature. The same things get re-hashed time and time again. There are some people who can keep things civil. But, as I said earlier, in my experiences, things only stay civil for so long. Sooner or later some newbie, who takes themselves way to seriously, shows up guns a blazing looking to pick something with anyone who dares to disagree with them, or some pot stirrer shows up (who really doesn't care about the topic) who just wants to push some buttons and see what happens. Some one gets drunk and bored some night and tosses in a little bomb shell just to see what will happen and who will bite.
I agree with you. The thread in question did remain civil. Should it have been axed? I guess that's a matter of opinion. I never would have let it got started based on my past experiences in other forums. Been there, done that. I wouldn't give it a chance to start up again.
A few things stand out to me here, and in that entire little episode in general; things which I find at least mildly insufferable. I mean, as long as we're venting...
1. People who claim they simply "know better" when it comes to other adults, be it from a past experience, a hunch, or something they picked up on an old episode of Barney Miller. Really, I'm a big kid now. I know what a civil discussion looks like and everyone participating in it was participating at a level-headed, mature level; regardless of what may or may not have happened in some thread on another website.
2. Skittishness. If there *might* be a disagreement, bring forth the axe and lop off the head of the offending discussion. Look, as I've said, it's not my board. If I were paying for it, I could make the calls. I respect that. I'm a business owner, and I don't let people wander in off the streets and make the rules. That said, every single comment I've seen in opposition that thread has been chock full of "what if", "it could have", "i know a guy who knew a guy", "i was in a thread arguing the comparative qualities of Bob Dole and Jabba The Hut once and it went nuclear...", etc. Honestly, could somebody pass the crystal ball? I have some more stocks I'd like to pick up.
3. The inability of people to just skip a thread, change the channel, etc. I don't like American Idol. I'm not going to disparage it, but I just don't like it. So, I developed this handy response mechanism to American Idol: I just don't watch it. While I appreciate that the last thing in the world the mods want is an inbox full of complaints, I'm left wondering why the offended individuals were even reading it in the first place. It took all of the first four words to identify that thread as political. Folks, just skip it.
Again, no problem in the world that it was killed. He who owns the board makes the call. But really folks, I think we've had just about enough amateur psychology and faulty causality.
I can't disagree with you completely on a lot of what you said. The argument you are making is one I made about 6 or 7 years ago on another forum. You know what I got as a response from the head honcho mod there?..
I paraphrase, but she basically told me that it was their forum and if I didn't like the way they did things to feel free to leave. They wouldn't miss me if I were gone. And, not to let the door hit me on the way out. She also suggested that I start my own forum where I could run things as I saw fit.
I really didn't care for that answer, but later I became a mod on a forum and I guess I saw things differently then. When I had to deal with the crap I changed my mind. There is a hell of difference between being a mod and being a member. You kinda get a feel for the threads that are going to cause you problems and after a while you just say the heck with them and shut them down before they get a chance to clutter your inbox. I don't mod anymore (except for one small forum), because I got sick of dealing with the crap. I got better things to do with my time.
I guess the bottom line is....If you don't like the way things are handled there really isn't a whole hell of a lot you can do about it. Get use to it or....move on....
It really is that simple....
Thankfully, I am not a mod here. All I am saying, is I completely understand why they did what they did.
Quote from: Sleepy on September 10, 2008, 07:28:30 PM
I just got my new pirate coat from a seamstress I found on ebay. I really liked her coats. she had good ratings from buyers on her coats. I have waited over two months when she said it takes 3 weeks. The dang thing doesnt even fit right! It is flimsy, she didnt even put in any lining to stiffen it up. Its not worth sending it back cuz what can she do? Ive waited this long, I would have to wait longer for her to try and make it right.
I think I will go back to the first gal I tried and have her make a new one over the winter. Or maybe just take the hit and wear it and look stupid....
You can try to file a grievance with ebay and paypal (if you used it). I had a similar problem last summer and had to go through a lot of hassle, but finally got every penny refunded. Lesson learned: do not buy what you can't try. I seriously doubt I will make any garb purchases from ebay ever again!
Quote from: Sleepy on September 10, 2008, 07:28:30 PM
I just got my new pirate coat from a seamstress I found on ebay. I really liked her coats. she had good ratings from buyers on her coats. I have waited over two months when she said it takes 3 weeks. The dang thing doesnt even fit right! It is flimsy, she didnt even put in any lining to stiffen it up. Its not worth sending it back cuz what can she do? Ive waited this long, I would have to wait longer for her to try and make it right.
I think I will go back to the first gal I tried and have her make a new one over the winter. Or maybe just take the hit and wear it and look stupid....
I'm too nervous to buy clothes off of E-Bay, but were I you, I'd at least try and fight it. By no means, should you "take the hit, wear it and look stupid", as you seem to be someone who takes a lot of pride in your garb. Do what you can to get something out of the woman and go to your other source for your new coat.
I have had wonderful luck on e-bay. Sad to hear your plight, Sleepy! I hope it all works out. Have you talked to the seller? Hope you can get your $$$ back. Most craftspeople will stand behind their wares.
To my boss:
Yeah I know I'm 46. I know that I'm older then the mothers of some my co-workers.
That doesn't mean I've got early onset of Alzheimers. I can hear you when you are laughing at me.
It doesn't mean I can't be "fashion foward". Darlin' I've seen more "fashion" come and go....it always goes and and it always comes back.
I'm not dowdy so stop trying to make me out that way.
How frakkin dare you make fun of me to the other associates when I'm not there.
It's not ageism ...it's just cruel, rude and exposes to me why you are still a sling-time manager.
How on earth can an internet package with limited downloads be considered an upgrade from an internet package with unlimited downloads?? And what's with the "We don't have the unlimited package anymore"? Everyone else still does. You just love doing this to your customers, don't you? They sign up for something, then you switch midway through it and force them to pay more. Well, I don't work that way, as you discovered. I bet you just loved having to take that extra charge off my bill after I tore into you, didn't you? And you can be sure that, just as soon as we find the one we like the best, we'll be switching to a new internet provider.
(That was odd. I'm not sure whom I was channeling when I did the above, but I don't normally "tear into people", and I rarely vent.) :P
What!! LIKE there's been a? perso?nnel chang?e on YET ANOTH?ER of my progr?am teams?,? and AGAIN no one bothe?red to infor?m me. This is the 3rd time this has happe?ned.? Grrrr?r!?!?
It was a full moon last night - I'm blaming the totally CRAPTACULAR attitudes of the people in my building whom I must communicate with on that. Today is a new day, I'll return to work with high spirits and try to let the nasty, rude, elitest attitudes of the people I had to deal with yesterday roll off my back. However, I feel pity for the first person who will get crappy with me tonight - I WILL ask for their full name and I WILL submit a report against them. I work too damn hard and get paid too damn little to take the kind of abuse I took yesterday.
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Some things are better left said in person.
When you send out a request for information to a listserv and I respond with said information, even though I don't know you, I would appreciate a "Thank you." >:(
Quote from: Welsh Wench on September 14, 2008, 11:53:31 AM
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Can I get an AMEN on that one!
If I am so incredibly inept, Why do I keep coming out with my designs On Time and On Budget AND they actually pass the walkthrough?!?!?!
You give me DIDDLE for requirements, tell me "oh, that's in the docs from the business owner" and expect me to do the work of translating them into requirements (which is Your Job Ahole!) and still I get the job done.
Gee... Is it any wonder you're still a rental?!?! I Cannot Wait Until Your Time Is Up!!!
Dayna
You wonder why your nice kid is in trouble all of the time. Seriously, get an f'ing clue. You are the Mom, act like it. Quit spending all of your money on dope and neglecting your kids. You're forty, not fourteen. >:(
!@##%$&&**$$@!
There, trying to quit swearing!
You stupid girl, you gave your kid to someone else to raise and you hang up on him when you hear his voice on the phone???? I'd like to smash your face, you worthless piece of CRAP! He is just a little kid!
Seriously, you know I love you like a sister, but really would ya reign your kid in a little. She is sooooo obnoxious and LOUD sometimes. That is half the reason we don't come see you guys anymore.
She is ten times louder than mine (which is LOUD!)and bratty. I hate bratty. I have tried to gently tell you this, but it falls on deaf ears and you live in denial.
Also, you are 36 years old. You aren't going to get something for nothing. I would think you have figured that out by now.
Let me explain.
1) You can mess with me all you want.
2) You don't mess with my friends.
3) You don't mess with my family.
In that exact order.
So you, the idiot(s), breaking into the store. You broke #2 and #1! Stinks to be you!
There have been others in the past, present and I am sure the future who will do the same. May they hear these words.
The same rules have always applied in my life 24 hours - 7 days a week!
I understand voting for Obama because he's not John McCain. I understand voting for Obama because he's not a republican, everyone hates the republicans this year. Heck, even the republicans hate the republicans this year. But if you drank the Obama kool aid and seriously bought into that "HOPE, CHANGE, FUTURE" crap, then you're a moron! I thought you were smarter than that.
Yes, I know that I volunteered to do it when you asked. And I know that I did a good job in a short period of time. And yes, you did acknowledge that you had received it and that it would work. Sometimes, though, I wish that when it goes public there was a little bit of acknowledgment. Those are my words, words are how I make my living. Without tooting my own horn, I can't even claim them.
Quote from: Synikul on September 16, 2008, 11:07:21 PM
I understand voting for Obama because he's not John McCain. I understand voting for Obama because he's not a republican, everyone hates the republicans this year. Heck, even the republicans hate the republicans this year. But if you drank the Obama kool aid and seriously bought into that "HOPE, CHANGE, FUTURE" crap, then you're a moron! I thought you were smarter than that.
I know a lot of Republicans, most of whom I love dearly. I might disagree with them in many ways, but hate them? hardly. Do they hate themselves? That is silly. As for Obama- is that all you got? Three words? Kool Aid? That's it? And I am the "moron"??
I thought there was a new rule about posting political concerns... apparently not...
No you are correct Demetrius.
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So lets let it end here and continue on....
Guilty? Honestly what do I have to be guilty of? the langauge sounds awefully familiar to other people telling me that I must have felt guilty about something I said. I'm tired of people assuming things. I'm tired of people turning my freinds into my enemies. I have never had anyone ever say anything like this about me, this is such hs bull. Its ok to make me look like I'm the one, I'm the one whos the trouble maker, and when I defend myself or vent about, I get the "guilty" bs. I must feel guilty. those people who have known me longer than any of you, know the kindof person I am, and the kindof person I can be, they know I am a freind, it's really sad you don't.
You Sir, and I use the term extremely loosely, are an IDIOT!!!
We don't have the data, we don't keep it, so if we want to use it to compare later, We WILL Need to capture it, which means adding more elements to that table, which increases the complexity of the design. AGAIN!!!! Then you claim that "we probably Do have it, the documentation system just doesn't reflect it". NO A_HOLE!!! There are gaps in the documentation for Some Systems, however this isn't one of them.
How in the world did you get this position?!?! Oh, I'm So Glad to hear that you won't be asked to convert to an employee!!! My manager doesn't have time to spend straightening you out, explaining things to you that you should already know or be able to figure out for yourself. You Don't Listen!!!
Count your days, and polish your resume, because I doubt Anyone here will give you a positive referral. The only reasons you're still here are 1) you're better than nothing, but not much and 2) people like me get the job done In Spite of you.
Dayna
At the end of your life when all this stuff gets added up and summarized....do you really want to waste any more of your precious life griping?
Alright, co-workers! Sit down and shut the heck up!
I'm SO sick of hearing you complain at this point. I honestly almost smacked you this morning. I'm sure it contributed to my leaving early. Perhaps it even contributed to the hives that actually did cause me to leave early.
No, it is not fair that we probably won't be getting a bonus this quarter, since the largest cause of our loss was an act of Mother Nature. Yes, it is a little exasperating that we may have to shell out our hard-earned dollars for a new dress code. BUT WHO REALLY CARES?!
I know, I know. We work for a multi-billion dollar corporation. However, the economy's in a rough spot right now, and they DO have to think about their business. With the areas largest employer slowly going out, we are projected to lose at LEAST 20% of our sales in the coming months. In addition, yes. The wind storm screwed us. No, the insurance will -not- pay for "nearly all" of the almost $200k in product we lost, nor will it pay for all of the sales we lost when we were closed for well over 12 hours. It will pay $75k. That's it. Sorry. Live with the facts.
Though "the company" wouldn't like to, or want to, they could, if needed, close our doors at any time. Now, personally, I'd rather have a steady job than a $200 "bonus" that comes on our regular paycheck so that it gets taxed to hell and probably puts you in the next tax bracket so -everything- gets taxed even more for that check. Even the largest bonus we got, at nearly $300 only took my check up by about $175, maybe $200.
Oh, and the dress code? Black (possibly khaki) pants and cranberry/red shirts. We're already in khaki, so you're set there. If you don't already own some black pants, I'd be kinda surprised, since it's a basic wardrobe staple. As for the shirts, they don't have to be fancy. There are t-shirts in both men's and women's that cost all of $5.
If you hate working here so desperately that you're miserable enough to do all you can to make everyone else miserable...EFFIN' QUIT! I'm sure your bright and shiny optimism will get you a new job faster than you can say "supercallifragilisticexpiallidocious." ((/sarcasm))
Yes, A$$hat, I'm aware that my dept. is responsible for handling all the UPS that comes in to and goes out of the resort. Here's the thing, YOU need to get the name, billing info, address, etc before you bring it down to me and BEFORE THE GUEST LEAVES!!!! I think that bears repeating: GET THE INFO BEFORE YOU BRING IT TO ME AND BEFORE THE GUEST LEAVES!!! Do you think I have a magical UPS eight ball down here that divulges all the aforementioned info????? I realize that it can be hard to stop shilling for a tip once in awhile and think, but since you didn't, I now have 20 or so packages and NO ONE knows who they go to. And guess who gets to field all THOSE calls??
Thanks, thanks a lot.
Douchenozzle
It would be lovely ms. Dr's office receptionist, if you would be so kind as to let me finish a complete sentance before interrupting me to transfer me to a desk where no one is there! Where no one EVER is, isn't answering the phone your job anyways? there's like 8 people in the drs office that aren't at the nurses desk that must have 5 seconds to go check my vaccination record since i need it for school! and since the fax machine is in your office anyways, you're probably going to end up doing it anyways!
Just one more reason that i shoulda switched to my mom's office a looong time ago, my entire family used to go to your office, now just me and my dad, I can't imagine why the rest left after your sucky service!
I'd like to shove the stereo right up your south of the border butts! I'm sick and tired of hearing your music in my apartment!
How many times has the manager told you to knock it off?
I've been here 13 plus years, I guarantee you, you'll be evicted before Thanksgiving! I'll see to it!
How do you expect people to respect and like you if all you are going to do is be a weed puller to everyone else around you?
Hey IKE, Kiss THIS! (Yes, I really want to say more here about this, but I don't want to risk getting myself booted or banned for excessive use of profanity).
Ugh, even our own STUDENT WORKERS complain about orientation! Yes, it's on Halloween. We don't love it either. But it can't be avoided. A) We have to do several orientations, which have to fall between application deadline and finals, and they HAVE to be on Fridays because there aren't enough classrooms open on other days. One of those Fridays is the day after Thanksgiving, which is a U holiday, one of those Fridays is the last day of Friday classes, people are going to be out of town, etc. B) It only goes until 6, so you still have time to go out and get drunk on Halloween. And C) We don't care if you show up in costume.
Gees, don't be such a thick-headed moron! The curfew is not something we need to worry about! Be more concerned if the venues will actually have power than when people have to be off the street.
Cars should just work all the time. And when not working tell you what is wrong.
Stinking $1000 valve body. poo
Here we are on September 24, 2008 13 days after the first bands started making landfall and I still have no power at the house. Now, Centerpoint Energy stated they would have my power up by Monday September 22, however it is not until sometime on Tuesday September 23 that they update their site and now it says I won't have power until Sunday September 28. I am NOT a happy Dragon right now. >:(
Um, I thought the requirements stated that THREE years of experience working in Education were necessary? Why, then, are people being interviewed who do not meet that qualification? If I don't get the job, fine. But if I am passed over for someone who does NOT meet the posted requirements, I am going to be pissed.
You sit on your arse all day long, ignore your call tickets, refuse to anser your phone or your voice mail make a hell of a lot more than I do, get benifits, get unlimited sick time, 3 weeks vacation and your buddy budy with the manager while I do 100X more than you do in a day, have a great relationship with the customers and users of the PC'sBust my arse get things done so users have new systems, and take on the 64bit OS because it is demaded of me, learn how to work with it in less than a day ON MY OWN and I'm the one out of a job come Oct 15.
Argh...
My other car is broke. I burned out the alternator on a trip to the Black Hills this summer and now I am getting engine codes. The same codes that knocked me out of last race season. Time to rebuild the TPI and get a new Mass Airflow Sensor. Then I get to have it track tuned for another $500. Might as well replace the injection system while I have it all apart. Sheesh.
At least I'm in the 175 mph club in that car!
you sir..... are a spinless ****. i asked you a question and you couldn't even stop answer me for 5 minutes. you are pathetic. not only did you block me a while back you deleted me off your myspace..why? what the h**l did I do to you, you pathetic piece of trash?
last time I checked...nothing, you are worthless, you sir....are weak and a coward. you don't have enough spin to talk to me? you block my emails because.........why? I don't recall why, but all I know is your spinless. get a real back bone...(insert explicit word) you really are pathetic. grow.....up. oh yea.... I also wrote a blog about you, but you wouldn't know since....you DELETED ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How can you after recieving 2 cancellation notices on your policy not know that you cancelled in August?....& why the heck are just now calling me at the the end of september because you havent recieved a bill, but you did recieve the cancellation notice....
Quote from: ladiedragon on September 28, 2008, 08:15:14 PM
you sir..... are a spinless ****. i asked you a question and you couldn't even stop answer me for 5 minutes. you are pathetic. not only did you block me a while back you deleted me off your myspace..why? what the h**l did I do to you, you pathetic piece of trash?
last time I checked...nothing, you are worthless, you sir....are weak and a coward. you don't have enough spin to talk to me? you block my emails because.........why? I don't recall why, but all I know is your spinless. get a real back bone...(insert explicit word) you really are pathetic. grow.....up. oh yea.... I also wrote a blog about you, but you wouldn't know since....you DELETED ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So Mad Jack, what's it like being "spin" less??? From the way you were wobbling in the lanes at fest it looked like you'd done your fair share of spinning for the day, or was that just the rum talking?
LOL, misspelling just takes so much steam out of a good rant.
Welcome to the illustrious group of those LD has namelessly vented about. Oh wait, my mistake, she's vented about you before, I'm just a bit late in congratulating.
My vent...if *you* (gee wonder who *I* am talking about) keep alienating and insulting members of your local R/F you may find there aren't many interested in listening to *anything* you have to say, much less take any word seriously.
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**breathe**
HAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAA!!!