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Title: "The Tudors"
Post by: Dinobabe on March 10, 2009, 11:44:36 AM
I don't have Showtime so I can only judge from previews but the show looks a bit over dramatic and longing for historic (besides the whole it's a TV show license).  Has anybody here watched it?  What do you think?  Would it be worth renting if anything just as a good show to watch?
Thanks!  ;)
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Master James on March 10, 2009, 01:18:44 PM
I own both seasons and enjoyed it.  Yes it IS lacking in the historical issues from costuming (mostly Elizabethan with some medieval thrown in for good measure but no Henrican) to carriages (they used a moder Amish buggy complete with leaf springs) in the first season.  That however has changed a bit in the second season where the costuming is much more correct, though not completely and the carriages look right.  And yes they take some historical issues and twist them to fit with what they want like the fact the Henry was not 20 something when he married Anne Boleyn and other little things.  If you ignore all of this however and just enjoy the show, its quite engaging and very enjoyable.  I would give it a 7.5 on the entertainment scale and a 3 on the historically accurate scale out of 10.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Athena on March 10, 2009, 03:51:06 PM
There's a discussion about the show over in the Books/Movies forum...

http://www.renaissancefestival.com/forums/index.php?topic=832.0

I've got season one in my Netflix queue, that's the best way to go for those who don't have Showtime.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Peddlin on March 11, 2009, 07:00:19 AM
I have seen the first two seasons, and I found them both most enjoyable. A little license was taken, (and the age thing is a little weird) but not enough to deter from the story.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Lady Gwyndolyn on March 11, 2009, 10:23:23 AM
I own both seasons on DVD... and dispite all that has been said about it.. I really like watching it.  My biggest thing is the costumes...  I don't know if anyone else noticed this or not, but Anne Bolyn wears 2 of the same costumes that Elizabeth wore in "Elizabeth the Virgin Queen" by Masterpiece Theater ( I own it also ).  The dresses are exact. Then there is a black and white one that she wears while riding that looks like the dress from "Elizabeth" with Cate Blanchett. 

It is in no way Historically Accurate.  But they never claimed that it was going to be historically accurate.  What I like is that more and more people are coming to faire because of it!!!

Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Master James on March 11, 2009, 12:02:25 PM
I own both of those movies so I'm going to have to go and look for those dresses now.  And yes there are a LOT of people that are now coming to faire as a result and that is great!
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Dinobabe on March 11, 2009, 01:00:13 PM
So, it looks like I'll give it a try!  Thanks everyone!  ;)
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Dayna on March 11, 2009, 02:32:17 PM
They ARE the same dresses, all of them.  I was in contact with some of the people who did the costuming, by way of a Yahoo Group, there were tons of costume "issues" which have to some extent been corrected.

I tried watching it, however a certain activity occurring in the first few minutes of episode 1, combined with the incredible anachronisms, made it impossible for me to enjoy it.  That's just me, I was raised on BBC, Lynn Redgrave, Glenda Jackson, etc. 

Dayna
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Jezzy MacPeaks on March 13, 2009, 08:11:47 PM
I have season I and want to get season II.  I loved the first one.  I don't have Showtime, so I'm hoping to acquire the second season SOON!

I must say I do enjoy "The Tudors" far more than I did the movie, "The Other Boleyn Girl"!  That movie was horrible, IMO, but the costumes were FAB-O, with the exception that in nearly every scene, both girls wore the same design, but in different colors!  I'm guessing that was intentional with some reason behind it?  Like the audience was too retarded to understand that the two girls were supposed to be sisters?  Duhhh!
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Lady Gwyndolyn on March 16, 2009, 11:24:21 AM
I do think the second season was much better than the first season... However I balled like a baby when they did the executions... especially Ann Bolyns...

I have found some things are accurate to history however a great deal of it is not.  But it is very entertaining and I really like watching it... 
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Jezzy MacPeaks on March 16, 2009, 01:24:54 PM
Oh...now I have to get the second season set.  I knew that was coming, but you always hold out hope that it will be avoided somehow!  *lol*
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: LadyElizabeth on March 16, 2009, 02:44:50 PM
I adore the show, but not for the accuracy in any respect!  The costumes and plot are not accurate really at all, but it's extremely entertaining!!  As for costumes being the same, that's true of alot of femal gowns of the renaissance/elizabethan/medieval for TV and movies.  There's a website that tracks the garb and where it's reused...

I love anything on that period.  The other boleyn girl was a bit too far off, but a bit entertaining still... 

I own both seasons, but don't have showtime, so only see them after they've been syndicated!

I'm right now watching Elizabeth R, the BBC version for the first time and am loving it!  THe costuming is amazingly accurate as well as the plot!!  I've seen no fabrication or stretching of the truth thus far, it seems to be the most accurate of any TV/movie production I've ever seen!!
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Macintyre on March 16, 2009, 05:14:36 PM
After watching some of the bonus features, it's actually alittle more historically correct than some of you guys give it credit for. 
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: LadyElizabeth on March 16, 2009, 05:37:47 PM
I've read a boat load of books on the time period and I'd say about maybe 50-60% of the material is correct... well that's my best guess.  The first season is the most inaccurate of the two, but still...  And as for the garb, truly, it is probably about the same percent correct or so...
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: irish on March 16, 2009, 07:31:56 PM
I just love the show. The costumes are so beautiful and I am getting a few ideas for this years garb.
Now, if ole Henry did look like Johnathan Rhys-Meyers.. ::)...who could blame the ladies for being at his feet??  :P
irish
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Tammy on March 16, 2009, 09:19:47 PM
Oh...I don't know...he's hot...but I sorta like my head attached.  ;)
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Dinobabe on March 17, 2009, 09:18:54 AM
Oh...I don't know...he's hot...but I sorta like my head attached.  ;)

LMAO ;D
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Friar Rohn the Chronicler on March 17, 2009, 01:52:15 PM
Oh, I've had a couple of slams because our family loves the Tudors (the sex scenes have been edited out for the kids), it revived our love of the RenFaires but we never garbed until recently. Mainly because we love the costumes on the show. At first I didn't care for the actor playing Henry VIII mainly because he was a "prettyboy" with a whining voice and not a 6ft. 5 inch giant that the king
really was. In those days, that height was a giant. I was amazed the first time I went through some English museums as a boy and almost all the real suits of armor were the size for 12-13 yr. old boys. Their diets back then were poor by our standards today and the usual Heath was 4'8 to 5 ft. tall. The actor playing the king, I thought got better in the second season. I have both seans on my iPod too.

No, the television series or movies are historically correct....but neither was Gunsmoke or the Pirates of the Carribean. Everytime some kind of TV show or movie is made, the "experts" always get overridden by the writers. We love the sets and the costumes. I have the first season on Blu-Ray and need to check later if the second season is out yet. The series seems to focus, of course, on what Henry VIII was remembered for....six wives. I had assumed that each season will deal with one of the wives like they have been doing. I have read somewhere that this upcoming season, will deal with two of the them and possible three while Henry will age rapidly. The last season will deal with his last marriage, death, and succession (with a new actor portraying the more historical overweight king dealing with health issues).

It's a possibility that Showtime may go with the possibility of another historical series. Possibly a "before" showing the Wars of the Roses, Richard III's overthrowing the throne and eventual defeat by the Tudors....or a "after" showing the manipulations of Henry VIII's daughters.

Friar Rohn
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: irish on March 17, 2009, 01:53:28 PM
Should I of said....having the ladies' heads at his feet?   ::)
Doesn't matter,  the man is HOT!  :o
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Lady Gwyndolyn on March 17, 2009, 02:00:45 PM
Johnathon Rhys-Meyers is a little cutie isn't he... but.. I personally like the guy that portrays Charles Brandon better... yummmm...

I can't think of many movies/tv shows out there that are completely "historically" accurate.  I have both Elizabeth movies with Cate Blanchet, The Virgin Queen by Masterpiece Theater, Elizabeth I that HBO put out, both seasons of the Tudors, and "Monarchy" with David Starkey as seen on Public Television by Acorn Media.  I want to get the 6 Wives of Henry VIII, and Elizabeth R.  

But all in all, I really like watching the Tudors, it is very entertaining.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Friar Rohn the Chronicler on March 17, 2009, 02:02:11 PM
For those whom want to judge the historical accuracy, here's a decent link to Wikipedia's page on the show and it's "Departures from History"........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tudors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tudors)

Friar Rohn
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Jezzy MacPeaks on March 17, 2009, 03:15:29 PM

It's a possibility that Showtime may go with the possibility of another historical series. Possibly a "before" showing the Wars of the Roses, Richard III's overthrowing the throne and eventual defeat by the Tudors....or a "after" showing the manipulations of Henry VIII's daughters.

Friar Rohn

I would LOVE to see them do that!  I'd have to add them to my library.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: BLAKDUKE on March 18, 2009, 01:12:29 PM
Tell me anyone is it just my dis-like for VIII or what.  I read the description of the "The Tudors" on wikipedia and somewhere in there it indicated that the program was about Henry VIII and "HIS DYNASTY" or "THE DYNASTY HE CREATED" or something along those lines.  Now I will concede that film makers take liberties with written history and such but come on Henry VIII  DID NOT start the Tudor dynasty.  Henry VII did.  He was the first ruling Tudor.   
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: LadyElizabeth on March 18, 2009, 01:17:55 PM
You are most certainly right that his father Henry VII did start the Tudor dynasty, but his son made it flourish and made it famous...  Henry VII spent his years on his throne just trying to keep the throne and make it more stable.  Unless Henry VIII were as flamboyant in his marriages and then his good choice in listing his daughters as heir to his throne, England would not be the place it is today!!!  It was not at all precedented to have a woman on the throne, so that alone made history!!! 
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: VIII on March 18, 2009, 01:52:53 PM
Tell me anyone is it just my dis-like for VIII or what.
I hope you don't mean me!  ???
I mean, have we even met?!?  :P
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: DonaCatalina on March 18, 2009, 03:40:59 PM
Tell me anyone is it just my dis-like for VIII or what.  I read the description of the "The Tudors" on wikipedia and somewhere in there it indicated that the program was about Henry VIII and "HIS DYNASTY" or "THE DYNASTY HE CREATED" or something along those lines.  Now I will concede that film makers take liberties with written history and such but come on Henry VIII  DID NOT start the Tudor dynasty.  Henry VII did.  He was the first ruling Tudor.   

I think its just the TV show. It turned me off so I turned it off.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: BLAKDUKE on March 19, 2009, 01:57:51 PM
Tell me anyone is it just my dis-like for VIII or what.
I hope you don't mean me!  ???
I mean, have we even met?!?  :P

Please,  I was speaking of the historical character.   Folks in here are never refered to in the fashion that I spoke in.  If you took it personally please do not, as it was not intended so.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: BLAKDUKE on March 19, 2009, 02:41:17 PM
Tell me anyone is it just my dis-like for VIII or what
Quote
I hope you don't mean me!  ???
I mean, have we even met?!?  :P

I am sorry for my response I just now noticed that you go by VIII and that my post only refered to Henry as VIII.  I did not make the connection until just now.   No, we have never met so I would be in no way disdainfull of someone extant that I have never met.  I apologize for the confusion.

Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Lady Gwyndolyn on March 20, 2009, 10:24:49 AM
Historically, Henry VIII was a womanizing player that was more fickle than any female I have ever met.  He had bipolar or something. 

I do enjoy the show for entertainment reasons.  All of the sex scenes do get a bit boring.  Thank goodness there aren't that many of them in the second season.  It seemed like in the first 5 minutes of the first season everyone was having sex!  I also love some of the gowns worn in the second season.  Like the one that Ann is wearing when she is holding court and Thomas Wyatt comes in and introduces her to the violin player. I really like that gown.

Dark Wolf has fallen in love with some of the doublets that Henry VIII wears also.  So for garb purposes, it does give a lot of great ideas!
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Jezzy MacPeaks on March 20, 2009, 02:59:39 PM
I know, I got tired of all the "sex", too.  Why was it necessary?  They didn't think the actors or the storyline would be enough to hold anyone's interest?  I felt it was cheap of them to do that so much, yet, I LOVED the show!  If I could get an "edited" version, I would enjoy it even more, I think.  They really should have given themselves more credit than that.  I'm not a prude, but I felt it was overly done.
Glad to hear that II isn't plagued with so much of it.

I love Henry's doublets, too!  Very nicely done! Of course, the gowns are beautiful.  I've been looking at the "livery collars".  The large chain necklace type pieces the men are wearing.  I would love to start making some of those!  I'm thinking on it a lot, actually.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Friar Rohn the Chronicler on March 20, 2009, 09:28:51 PM
I know, I got tired of all the "sex", too.  Why was it necessary?  They didn't think the actors or the storyline would be enough to hold anyone's interest?  I felt it was cheap of them to do that so much, yet, I LOVED the show!  If I could get an "edited" version, I would enjoy it even more, I think. 

I thought that it was a good (if somewhat incorrect at times) series based on history the judgements made back then effect us and our laws to this day. How I edited them....I have a den full of networked computers. I converted them into a easy digital format to work with, deleted the scenes and patched them back together again. It only was about 5-7 scenes through both seasons. I left the few swear words in mainly because my brother is a fire captain and his kids hear combinations that would make a sailor blush (even though I've never heard anyone of the three cuss in my presence).

They really should have given themselves more credit than that.  I'm not a prude, but I felt it was overly done.
Glad to hear that II isn't plagued with so much of it.


It's pay per view TV, got to have that shock value I guess.

I love Henry's doublets, too!  Very nicely done! Of course, the gowns are beautiful. 

The doublets were a big influence on my nephew's 2009 garb made by Lady Kathleen of Olmsted.

I've been looking at the "livery collars".  The large chain necklace type pieces the men are wearing.  I would love to start making some of those!  I'm thinking on it a lot, actually.

I was also looking for some time for a unusual piece for him to wear. I wanted it to be different, masculine and elegant without a lot of cabochons and fake pearls. Noble class but not Royalty is what we look for. I found this piece from a estate sale out of Suffolk, England. Every once in a while you find a gold nugget on eBay.

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3505/chainofoffice.jpg) (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chainofoffice.jpg)

Friar Rohn

Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Jezzy MacPeaks on March 20, 2009, 11:02:08 PM
Very nice piece!  Nicely done, not overly ornate.  Excellent choice.

Sometimes, I wish I had a way of editing some movies, but it's pretty much the norm now, isn't it?  It was good of you to edit them so the kids could watch, too.  :)
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: princess farcical on March 23, 2009, 10:06:33 AM
You are most certainly right that his father Henry VII did start the Tudor dynasty, but his son made it flourish and made it famous...  Henry VII spent his years on his throne just trying to keep the throne and make it more stable.  Unless Henry VIII were as flamboyant in his marriages and then his good choice in listing his daughters as heir to his throne, England would not be the place it is today!!!  It was not at all precedented to have a woman on the throne, so that alone made history!!! 

Actually (and totally off-topic), England had a few ruling/sovereign Queens before Elizabeth I, one of the most notable being Emma of Normandy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encomium_Emmae

(It seems like I'm just posting this to correct you - I promise I'm not - Emma was one of my favorite Queens.  Just couldn't resist sharing the love!)

Actually, okay, I need to edit this - she wasn't technically sovereign in her own right; she did wield an unprecedented lot of power.  Still, though, if you love powerful English Queens, she was the Great Grandmother of them all!

/threadjack
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: VIII on March 31, 2009, 11:41:23 AM
I found this piece from a estate sale out of Suffolk, England. Every once in a while you find a gold nugget on eBay.(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3505/chainofoffice.jpg) (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chainofoffice.jpg)Friar Rohn
I'll take it.  Just package up that li'l puppy and mail it to:
King Henry VIII
Scarborough Faire
PO Box 538
Waxahachie, TX 75168
 ;D
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: DonaCatalina on March 31, 2009, 01:39:51 PM
Last surviving Tudor chain of office fetches £300,000 at auction (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1083667/Last-surviving-Tudor-chain-office-fetches-300-000-auction.html)
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Zardoz on April 01, 2009, 11:11:26 PM
I know, I got tired of all the "sex", too.  Why was it necessary?  They didn't think the actors or the storyline would be enough to hold anyone's interest?  I felt it was cheap of them to do that so much, yet, I LOVED the show!  If I could get an "edited" version, I would enjoy it even more, I think. 

I thought that it was a good (if somewhat incorrect at times) series based on history the judgements made back then effect us and our laws to this day. How I edited them....I have a den full of networked computers. I converted them into a easy digital format to work with, deleted the scenes and patched them back together again. It only was about 5-7 scenes through both seasons. I left the few swear words in mainly because my brother is a fire captain and his kids hear combinations that would make a sailor blush (even though I've never heard anyone of the three cuss in my presence).

They really should have given themselves more credit than that.  I'm not a prude, but I felt it was overly done.
Glad to hear that II isn't plagued with so much of it.


It's pay per view TV, got to have that shock value I guess.


So ... I guess y'all must not watch too much other Showtime programming?  If you think The Tudors has too much sex and nudity, for your own safety avoid watching Californication or The L Word at all costs!  ;)
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Friar Rohn the Chronicler on April 02, 2009, 02:12:13 AM
I'll take it.  Just package up that li'l puppy and mail it to:

       We plan on being down there for one or two weekends and I doubt you will miss him in his new togs designed by Lady Kathleen of Omsted. He's just 11 years old and you could probably "take him down and beat him like a baby seal" for the collar except he will be the most heavily armed child strolling 'round there. The crossbow will be "peace tied" but he did shoot one of the bolts through a car door (yes....he was supervised). Funny thing is, the last time we went to a Castle function, I was running 'round doing my usual photog stuff and someone tried to trade him "the amount of money for 3 playstation games" for his tankard. Good thing the kid knew how much it was really worth and didn't bite. We tended to purchase unusual items as accessories for his garb and we had been looking for some time for a different style of Chains of Office. There was a small bidding war during the last couple of seconds of the auction but the other guy was a reseller and I usually put a reserve bid in the sniping program for any item at $1,000. I loved the way those looked and it fits the Spanish nobleman style we where shooting for.

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7094/alex00003.jpg) (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alex00003.jpg)

Friar Rohn
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Damien Ryan on August 10, 2009, 10:33:08 AM
This is by far my favorite tv show ever, i cant even count the amount of times iv watched the DVD's...really a must buy for any ren fan.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Capt Gabriela Fullpepper on August 11, 2009, 03:13:16 PM
really a must buy for any ren fan.

I would have to disagree as this series is so far out in left field as to accurate it's not even funny. It drove me crazy trying to watch the 1st three CD's of it. The names are inaccurate as is the timeline. Henry's yougest sister was Not Margeret but Mary. mary married James of Scotland and produced Mary Queen of Scots. The youngest sister did not marry an old king from Portugal, but an old king from France. She did not kill him, he died 3 months into their marriage. Mary came back and married Charles brandon wand they had children who produced Lady Jane gray the 9 days Queen. Katherine of Aragon did not have black hair, she had fair hair reddish in color. King henry was a giant of a man at 6' 2 " tall and was a large man and grew fat in time. John Rhyes Myers is better suited to... well nobody as he is small and whimpy.

I'm sorry but I am a renaissance fan and a slight historian. If you want a good series on King Henry get the BBC The 6 Wives of Henry the VIII, Or many others but avoid that lame eccuse of history wrote more like a stupid afternnon soap opera with slightly better budget than what really happened called the Tudors.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Dayna on August 11, 2009, 03:27:29 PM
I am in complete agreement with Lady de Laney, I could not make it past the second episode without raising my blood pressure to dangerous levels.  Complete and Utter Rubbish!!!  That being said, I enjoy a good game of "spot the anachronism" as well as the next person, however this was "try to spot anything remotely correct".

Complete agreement, the 6 wives or Elizabeth R.

Dayna Thomas
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Zardoz on August 11, 2009, 07:45:54 PM
Y'all remind me of some of my lesbian friends that always complained that the girls in 'The L Word' (also on Showtime) were all "too good looking"!  It's a TV Show! On Showtime! That's what they do !  ::)   The L Word was plagued with all that nudity and sex too, but no complaints about that! :D
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Capt Gabriela Fullpepper on August 11, 2009, 08:49:24 PM
The L word was not about history. It was a bunch of made up characters in a real world situtation that happens everyday to hundreds if not thousands of women.

The Tudors is based on Historyy... a History we all know or should know and is so far wrong it's not even fun to watch. At least braveheart when we all saw it had some WOW factor. That factor went to hell when everyone fond out the reality of it all. not that Braveheart isn't good, but it's of a character and events that are far less documented. No one except maybe a Scotsman or someone who loved the Scots had ever heard of William Wallace,, but King Henry and his 6 wives especially Anne Boleyn? I think we all have a clearer picture of him and his wives and the time he lived in as King Henry changed England and put them on the map of power.

So no no complaints of a fact story based on real life siturations but tons of a real life event of documented facts or real people and the people they were and what happened to them and it all being wrong and twisted to the point it's hard to enjoy it, at least for me even as entertainment goes.

I think anyone would get just as mad if a Story about our 1st President was played by Jackie Chan and how George invented Kung Fu and his wifes name was not Margrette but Michelle and he really wasn't our 1st president but out 1st Catholic Bishop. it would be poppy dim bulb and rubbish not even funny, unless of course it was put on as a comedy and then it would still not be good.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Zardoz on August 12, 2009, 12:15:37 AM
As you say, "based on history"  Going in, I did not expect The Tudors to be any more accurate history-wise than, to use your example Braveheart! (or 'Elizabeth' if you like)  Just as I knew Braveheart was crap as history, it didn't keep me from enjoying it, it's an exciting film!   Same with the Tudors, we know Tudor history, hell my wife is related to the Stuarts! But, just seeing the preveiws, it was plain they were not making a documentary!  It's a soap opera that loosely uses names and events from the Tudor era, that most veiwers have heard of, for dramatic effect.  More historical facts would just make it dull and confusing to the aveage veiwer, hell there would be 4 characters named Mary in the first few episodes!  But it still has pretty settings, costumes, and people, so we enjoy watching it.  My wife thinks all the guys are cute, and I have fun discussing the more glaring errors and commenting on how old or fat the characters should be etc... so that stuff actually adds to it for us.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Damien Ryan on August 17, 2009, 12:20:33 PM
Im completeley shocked people do not like this, who cares if everything is not historically accurate, neither are most "based on true story" tv shows and movies, its entertainment and damn good at that.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Lady Penelope on August 17, 2009, 06:59:20 PM
I agree. I don't understand why people get truly upset or angry at movies/tv shows that are not totally historically accurate.
If they wanted these shows and movies to be historically accurate they would state that. They are made by the entertainment industry. They are meant to be viewed as entertainment.
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: ronhoffman2 on August 22, 2009, 06:39:52 AM
Just started watching this and I really enjoy it. I don't care if it's historically accurate. It probably would be pretty boring if it was.  Anyways, i have a question regarding near the end of episode 7, season 1.  In the church during the funeral, on the pews, there are pillows with spurs sitting on top of them in between the people.  What is the significance of this?
Title: Re: "The Tudors"
Post by: Becky10 on August 23, 2009, 12:17:39 AM
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  In the church during the funeral, on the pews, there are pillows with spurs sitting on top of them in between the people.  What is the significance of this?

I believe it's along the same line as the horse with out a rider tht you see in funeral services for the military (I think, or is it the police, or both..). I can't find a good way of putting it :-\. Basically showing that there will be an empty place without him now.