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NP Justacorps/Frock Coat

Started by Dev, August 21, 2009, 04:26:46 PM

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Dev



I've been browsing patterns for a justacorps or frock coat from the 17th or 18th century.  My idea is to make one for everyday dane-wear using knit fleece (hoodie fabric) on the outside and chenille fabric on the inside so it will have the basic period look, but be extremely comfy.

My question is how to re-shape a men's garment for a female shape?  Note that my boobs aren't a problem, and I actually fit man-shaped jackets better because my shoulders and chest are wide, but my waist is 12 inches smaller than my chest, and 14 inches smaller than my hips.  Hips shouldn't be a problem because that sort of jacket is sort of flared at the bottom.

gem

I'm drawing a blank on what NP means.

If you're just wanting a frock coat for mundane wear, and you're going to make it from fleece, why not use the Simplicity woman's pattern, which you can buy for $1 this weekend at JoAnn?

I don't know if this link will take you right there; Simplicity has just totally changed their website, and I don't know if it's post-friendly anymore!  If not, the pattern number is 3677.
http://www.simplicity.com/p-1970-costumes.aspx

If you're specifically wanting an accurate men's frock coat pattern to alter to a woman's shape (?), then why not try JP Ryan's pattern: http://www.jpryan.com/gentspatterns.html

I know this is the pattern a couple of the professional costumers on this board recommend. I've used a couple of the JP Ryan women's patterns, and they went together BEAUTIFULLY.  I *highly* recommend them.


Dev

Quote from: gem on August 21, 2009, 04:55:31 PM
I'm drawing a blank on what NP means.

If you're just wanting a frock coat for mundane wear, and you're going to make it from fleece, why not use the Simplicity woman's pattern, which you can buy for $1 this weekend at JoAnn?

I don't know if this link will take you right there; Simplicity has just totally changed their website, and I don't know if it's post-friendly anymore!  If not, the pattern number is 3677.
http://www.simplicity.com/p-1970-costumes.aspx

If you're specifically wanting an accurate men's frock coat pattern to alter to a woman's shape (?), then why not try JP Ryan's pattern: http://www.jpryan.com/gentspatterns.html

I know this is the pattern a couple of the professional costumers on this board recommend. I've used a couple of the JP Ryan women's patterns, and they went together BEAUTIFULLY.  I *highly* recommend them.


NP?  Not period?  Idunno, I thought I saw that used before.

That Simplicity pattern might work...


It looks better in the sketch than the picture.  I didn't know the back of the jacket flared.

Thanks, this really simplified my epic quest :o

Adriana Rose

It is flared its just hiding in the middle seam in the back of the coat

Taffy Saltwater

Hi, Dev.  I made a justaucorps for myself using this pattern.  Let me recommend that you make a toile first.  It's not a difficult pattern, just that you will need to take into account your curvy bits.  I, of course, did not make a toile.  I finally ended up taking it apart, sandwiched a bodice between the fashion layer & lining, and grommeted the front, back & sleeves.

Sveethot!

Seamus Ex Machina

Legendary Hellraiser

gem

I love that pattern.  It came out just as I was trying to figure out how to do the same thing--adapt a men's frock coat for a woman's figure.  I stopped thinking so hard.  :P  Still haven't made it, of course! LOL

Taffy Saltwater

Quote from: Seamus Ex Machina on August 21, 2009, 08:13:08 PM
Awesome frock, Salt Momma! :P

Thank you - it was my very first garb project and you just know I was in way over my head.  I drew a treasure map in one of the cuffs & penned a poem in the other.
Sveethot!

Seamus Ex Machina

My frocks are based on the same pattern.   Dear God, those cuffs....   anyway, great pattern, and just a ton of fabric in the skirts.    The way they move, especially on a windy day at a pyrate fest...too kewl!
Legendary Hellraiser

Taffy Saltwater

My second regret is that I used such a heavy fabric - it would have to be a force five hurricane to blow those skirts about.
Sveethot!