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Started by mpullen, August 17, 2008, 07:41:22 PM

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Lord Dragonspyre

Quote from: PurpleDragon on August 26, 2008, 03:09:32 PM
The really unfortunate part is that unless we can all but STOP those "outsiders" (meaning those that are NOT rennies, or share our enthusiasm for the faire) from coming in, we will not be able to regain our tranquil campgrounds of old.

Generally speaking, Ren campgrounds are self-policing to the point that only a few security guards are needed to keep order. However, one should never confront someone suspected of being under the influence, as they are dangerously unpredictable. This is why I am all for the idea of having plainclothes officers roaming the campgrounds at night. They are trained to handle such circumstances.

QuoteI have heard a rumor that the raver kids have been asked to not come back and if they do come back they have been asked NOT to bring the sound system, lights etc with them, although as I stated, this is only a rumor I have heard so do not know if there is any truth to it.

From what I understand, they were first asked to turn down their music and lights, which they refused to do. Then security came along and told them to do so, to which they replied "<expletive deleted> off." At that point, a representative of the Faire politely invited them to leave and never return. Again, this is what I heard, so YMMV.
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ScoutColt

Another major problem... it's to easy to get to the campgrounds while faire is open. Just drive through the actual faire into overflow camping.

Money won't solve it, until the security issue is addressed at least somewhat. Heck, TRF owning it's own city, you'd think they'd have no problem taking on some "volunteer" deputees and firemen (which would mean you could probably get a radio to communicate with them as well as detain and bear witness). That and if some 200 people get deputized and where a nice little pin showing something to that affect... the drugs will never appear. THey'd be too paranoid.

Lady Laura

I would pay at least an additional $10 per weekend to camp if I knew it was going directly to hire volunteer police officers who are authorized to make arrests and who would be out there throughout the night on patrol.   Or why not have them set up a few of their own tents and they can stay the night too! That way they would have a more established presence and I really think that would deter troublemakers more than anything else.
"Any damn fool can navigate the world sober. It takes a really good sailor to do it drunk."
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Fenster

Quote from: PurpleDragon on August 26, 2008, 10:57:34 AM

Oh, I am in complete agreement that the law enforcement could be handled much better out there... It is a matter of the fact that Todd Mission (actual city) has a police force of 2 or 3 officers, it was a city created by TRF owners based on laws and rules from the state governing permits and the like.  They would have to employ, even on a temporary basis, roughly 20 more police officers to make it an effective attempt at enforcing the law in the campgrounds 24 hours a day.
The purse strings will loosen when Todd Mission or TRF is sued because of something that happens at the campgrounds that better policing could have prevented. 

BobSmith

My God Jim!  Whatever happened to decent people who went to faire to have fun?
There is no offense if none is taken.

Lord Dragonspyre

Quote from: Fenster on August 26, 2008, 05:13:57 PM
Quote from: PurpleDragon on August 26, 2008, 10:57:34 AM

Oh, I am in complete agreement that the law enforcement could be handled much better out there... It is a matter of the fact that Todd Mission (actual city) has a police force of 2 or 3 officers, it was a city created by TRF owners based on laws and rules from the state governing permits and the like.  They would have to employ, even on a temporary basis, roughly 20 more police officers to make it an effective attempt at enforcing the law in the campgrounds 24 hours a day.
The purse strings will loosen when Todd Mission or TRF is sued because of something that happens at the campgrounds that better policing could have prevented. 

Oh you mean like some idiot throwing a keg on the bonfire?
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weldon

Hi all,
  Ive not been camping at festival as long as some here, but Ive been at it since the guys that run the Pirate Auction
were selling their wares under a blue tarp, ( forgive my alcohol riddled mind ) my years seem to run together and blur.
  1.   I wish for HOT SHOWERS,
  2.   A Separate color coded ticket issued for camping for that weekend issued to people already in possesion of a festival ticket or pass. While on their rounds, just one officer could ticket for criminal tresspass and fine violators , (you'd be supprised what loss of cash does to motivate people to move on)
  3.   As for my third and last wish O'Festival genie, a total BAN on ANY spot lights, that has ruined my stay more than anything else, having a blinding light on a thirty foot pole glaring at the eye is uncomfortable and totally destroyes the atmosphere I truly miss. Actually, a total ban on any electric light that can be seen from 10 ft from that immediate camp area would be wonderfull !
"Once, I was really good.  Now I'm really good Once"

PurpleDragon

Quote from: weldon on August 27, 2008, 11:56:52 AM
Hi all,
  Ive not been camping at festival as long as some here, but Ive been at it since the guys that run the Pirate Auction
were selling their wares under a blue tarp, ( forgive my alcohol riddled mind ) my years seem to run together and blur.

Actually it was a tent not a tarp and that as I believe either 1996 or 1997.  (I've been working for them since 2002).
Karl "Dragon" Wolff
The Pirates Cove

Bin Ich SCHLECHT? Ja BIN Ich.

KeeperoftheBar

I've only camped once and probably won't again till I get my teardrop trailer (getting too old for tents) but I have three wishes.
1.     No generators running from 9PM to 7AM anywhere in the campground.
2.     No electric music devices (stereos, radios, ipods, speakers, etc.).  Only natural acoustic music makers.
3.     A cute little sleeping bag warmer, about 5'2", blonde or brunette, 25-45.

I rather doubt I'll get any of my wishes anytime soon.
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PurpleDragon

Quote from: KeeperoftheBar on August 28, 2008, 07:40:48 AM
I've only camped once and probably won't again till I get my teardrop trailer (getting too old for tents) but I have three wishes.
1.     No generators running from 9PM to 7AM anywhere in the campground.

Not likely to happen since there are people that require generators for their sleep apnea machines during the night.

Quote from: KeeperoftheBar on August 28, 2008, 07:40:48 AM
2.     No electric music devices (stereos, radios, ipods, speakers, etc.).  Only natural acoustic music makers.

Oh, you are truly wishing for a miracle aren't you?


Quote from: KeeperoftheBar on August 28, 2008, 07:40:48 AM
3.     A cute little sleeping bag warmer, about 5'2", blonde or brunette, 25-45.

You must be looking for a double sized teardrop because the single ones are barely big enough for one person.

Quote from: KeeperoftheBar on August 28, 2008, 07:40:48 AM
I rather doubt I'll get any of my wishes anytime soon.

Be careful what you wish for.. you just might get it....






someday.
Karl "Dragon" Wolff
The Pirates Cove

Bin Ich SCHLECHT? Ja BIN Ich.

Blue66669

Hey man, there's nothing better than Scottish Rogues or EMuzeki on the iPod early in the morning. Sorry for ya, I'll keep jammin!
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Thomas Eagle

Quote from: PurpleDragon on August 25, 2008, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: Aiacha on August 25, 2008, 10:00:02 AM
As this is a fantasy list, I was always a fan of the suggestion to open a "period" pub within patrons camping.  It could be run by a catering company, offering a handful of dining options (easy stuff like fish and chips, or stews) plus some drinks on tap (beer, mead).  Now that they have the quickiemart onsite, I could easliy see them combining both of these places into a single structure.

I wonder if this one could actually become a reality????  'Twould be nice to have a 'nice' place to sit and eat in the evening after a hard days work inside without having to wait in line to get out of there and it taking an hour to get to town.

I think a basic setup pub with just a large open sitting area would be an awesome idea and it would be easily justified by how much you could make just on the season alone, for those visiting and working at faire.  Could even cut down on some dwi beer runs.
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Messyn McCleavage

Quote from: Thomas Eagle on August 28, 2008, 09:37:43 AM
Quote from: PurpleDragon on August 25, 2008, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: Aiacha on August 25, 2008, 10:00:02 AM
As this is a fantasy list, I was always a fan of the suggestion to open a "period" pub within patrons camping.  It could be run by a catering company, offering a handful of dining options (easy stuff like fish and chips, or stews) plus some drinks on tap (beer, mead).  Now that they have the quickiemart onsite, I could easliy see them combining both of these places into a single structure.

I wonder if this one could actually become a reality????  'Twould be nice to have a 'nice' place to sit and eat in the evening after a hard days work inside without having to wait in line to get out of there and it taking an hour to get to town.

I think a basic setup pub with just a large open sitting area would be an awesome idea and it would be easily justified by how much you could make just on the season alone, for those visiting and working at faire.  Could even cut down on some dwi beer runs.

Ever been down renfaire drive? If you work at faire, you've probably gone down that road to enter through the back. Rather than turning right to enter, stay straight till it ends. You'll see the "kitchen" on the left. They'll cook up burgers, sandwiches..
Gneonach Gnomie - SW Houston, TX

PurpleDragon

Quote from: Messyn McCleavage on September 10, 2008, 03:46:13 PM
Ever been down renfaire drive? If you work at faire, you've probably gone down that road to enter through the back. Rather than turning right to enter, stay straight till it ends. You'll see the "kitchen" on the left. They'll cook up burgers, sandwiches..

Ah yes... The Copper Rose.. wonderous place, although it really tends to be more geared toward the participants than the playtrons.  'sides, traffic trying to turn on or of that road from/to 1774 is a real PITA.
Karl "Dragon" Wolff
The Pirates Cove

Bin Ich SCHLECHT? Ja BIN Ich.

Messyn McCleavage

Quote from: Lord Dragonspyre on August 26, 2008, 03:48:41 PM
Quote from: Messyn McCleavage on August 26, 2008, 02:50:29 PM
There should be a simple "green" way of filtering rain water collected throughout the year and using for hot showers and flushies.

Only problem is that you need to store the rainwater, and to do so requires money and space for a storage. Plus, unless the storage container is hermetically sealed, you run the risk of stagnation, in which case the water is no longer useful unless you have a reclamation center.

I checked into "pillow tanks" which could be stored under the cabin, but they cost $3200 for 4,000 gallons of non-potable water (5 yr warranty.) $800/yr for shower water - doesn't include the rain capture device nor plumbing.

What would it take to tap into TRF's water supply? All we'd need are pipes, shower stalls, and a couple of hot water heaters.

My wish is for a magic mallet to "convince" the right people to allow this!
Gneonach Gnomie - SW Houston, TX