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Title: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: batninja on August 05, 2009, 10:40:48 AM
So my friend has persuaded me to embrace my Scottish heritage (on my mother's side), and look into getting a kilt before this year's Texas Renaissance Festival opening.

I've got several leads on kilt styles and tartans, but I have an accessory question.  I have a favorite rapier.  Is it faux pas to wear a rapier with a kilt?

Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: bellevivre on August 05, 2009, 10:50:46 AM
Remember the 'Auld Alliance' between the French and Scottish courts... I dont think anyone will take it amiss- my hubby wears a rapier and main gauche with his kilt and we've never had a bad comment... now, if it's a GREAT kilt (as in, the kind you have to wrap yourself) he wears a broadsword...
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: Laird Fraser of Lovatt on August 05, 2009, 10:51:09 AM
No, Cousin... it's not.  Not all Scots carried Great Claymores or Basket Hilts. what type of rapier?
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: batninja on August 05, 2009, 11:06:36 AM
My father's heritage is Swiss, and I'm left-handed, so I went with the Germanic ambidextrous Pappenheimer rapier.

(http://www.aurorahistoryboutique.com/products/A000059.jpg)
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: Laird Fraser of Lovatt on August 05, 2009, 11:14:00 AM
nice!  That would go well with a kilt, especially if you are shooting for the "nobleman" look.  ;)
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: Laird Fraser of Lovatt on August 05, 2009, 11:17:14 AM
I wear a piper's dirk, multiple sgain dubh's, and carry me Blackthorn walking stick... i have a Great Claymore but it's to cumbersome for an all day carry.  Next year it's a Basket Hilt for me.
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: SirRichardBear on August 05, 2009, 02:05:35 PM
I carried a rapier with my kilt for years before getting a basket.  My story was that I picked it up while fighting in the low country.  Remember Scottish mercenries fought all over the continent and picked up all types of weapons.  I also carry a warhammer I've never had anyone say anything negative about either.
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: batninja on August 05, 2009, 02:26:13 PM
Thanks for the warm fuzzies, guys.  Makes me feel alot better.  :)
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: Laird Fraser of Lovatt on August 05, 2009, 03:59:38 PM
If you are going to be at TRF, All Hallow's Eve... come by the Prince of Wales around noon... (that's the meet & greet for RF'ers)  I'll be there with my McLotofus breathern.
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: batninja on August 05, 2009, 04:37:41 PM
Yeah, I've stopped by POW a few times, met a few of you...but since I don't go as often as everyone else, I didn't feel that 'family' vibe.   :)   Maybe this year!
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: Lairde Daniel on August 05, 2009, 04:39:31 PM
Any kilt wearer is always "family"!  Look forward to seeing you.
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: SirRichardBear on August 07, 2009, 09:53:33 AM
And next season at Scraborough come by the drink both below the Falcon stage around noon and meet the queens own highlanders.  But be warned you will most likely be asked to do the death march.
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: groomporter on August 11, 2009, 10:12:17 AM
Quote from: SirRichardBear on August 05, 2009, 02:05:35 PM
  Remember Scottish mercenries fought all over the continent and picked up all types of weapons.

Yup Exactly!
I carry a Pappenheimer-hilted rapier myself when portraying my retired mercenary persona.
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: Hatter on August 14, 2009, 10:56:22 AM
I don't carry a sword with my kilt.  I have a Dirk and sgain dubh that I wear.  I have enough other things on my belt so a sword would be cumbersome.
They were made by Wm Lloyd Studio. Dirk is ivory and the sgain dubh is antler.

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x289/Hatter50/sgaindubh.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x289/Hatter50/Dirk002.jpg)
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: Lairde Daniel on August 14, 2009, 10:58:08 AM
Awsome hatter!  I have a baskethilt I carry, but sometimes it's a dirk and a blackthorn walking stick
Title: Re: Rapier with a Kilt?
Post by: Poldugarian Warrior on November 08, 2009, 04:30:40 AM
That is an awesome,sgain dubh. I would think though as a Scotsman since they were equal oppurtunity warriors, a whole range of weapons would look good with a kilt. The claymores, basket hilts, and broadswords are certainly most suitable, but a rapier, small axe, or even a short schimitar/cutlass wouldn't be out of the question. I've seen a few kilt wearing guys, whom carry small axes, and some short cutlasses. I think though it has to do with the style of the hilt, more than the type of weapon itself. A hilt with Celtic knots would be perfect, but I think the Pappenheimer is a fine hilt, covering many different cultures. As you know many people in those times also bought imported blades and armor, so it's not uncommon to own a blade/armor from a different country in those days. So I say wear the rapier.