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Title: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Jessi on February 26, 2010, 11:01:26 AM
I bought a tankard at the thrift store. It is marked pewter. My boyfriend says that my mead tastes funny. Do I need to treat it or clean it in a special way?
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Queen Bonnie on February 26, 2010, 12:46:01 PM
 I have several pewter tankards. I just wash with soap and water. No problems with unusual tastes.  What kind of mead were you drinking?
Some kinds always taste funny! LOL!
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Carl Heinz on February 26, 2010, 12:57:15 PM
If it's an old tankard, you might also have lead in the mix.  I don't recall when lead was prohibited from pewter, but I can recall when pewter crafts people made a point of having lead free items.
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Jessi on February 26, 2010, 01:00:44 PM
I don't have any idea what kind it was. He filled it while I wasn't looking and then had to have a taste, like his mug wasn't full!! :D

Any ideas how to guess at the age of the mug? This one is plainly stamped "pewter". I bought another one that has several different picture stamps. Does anyone have a link where I can look those up?
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Molden on February 26, 2010, 01:24:50 PM
...prolly shouldn't be eating your pewter tankard...just sayin'...  ;)
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Zardoz on February 26, 2010, 01:44:09 PM
If I remember right, I think lead in pewter wasn't regulated till the mid 70's, I have 4 pewter mugs from faires in the late 70's- early 80's, but only one is marked "Lead Free" on the bottom. One of them says "100% Pewter", which I always thought was funny, since pewter is an alloy; originally  tin, lead and copper.  But now;  tin, antimony and copper or bismuth in 'modern pewter'.
 Older pewters with lead content are generally heavier, tarnish faster, and oxidation gives them a darker greyish or bluish silver color. I don't know that the amount of lead that might be in there would affect the taste, but lead intake is not good in any amount!
When I started getting back into faire several years ago, I broke out my "lead free" mug and scrubbed it out real good, But the first time I used it, I declared that it made my beer "taste pewtery" ???  I don't recall this being an issue back in the day, but I was pretty indifferent to what I drank back then too!
I have since got a nice stainless steel mug that has no such issues and is nice and shiney too!
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Jack Daw at Work on February 26, 2010, 02:02:06 PM
I have a thick, lead-free pewter tankard.  There's no funny taste, but I have to be careful how cold the beer is, otherwise my lips might stick to the tankard rim.
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Jessi on February 26, 2010, 04:35:19 PM
OK, the tankard in question is stamped on the bottom "Reed & Barton Pewter -P30"
Now the second one I mentioned has several different stamps on the side of the mug. I can't make out the first and the third, but the middle one looks like initials (rWp). Then under those it looks like "USA".

The maker or age is not all that important. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't being poisioned (lead). Thanks.
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Taffy Saltwater on February 26, 2010, 07:26:40 PM
You can get lead testers from the hardware store. 
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Gauwyn of Bracknell on February 27, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
Quote from: Jessi on February 26, 2010, 04:35:19 PM
OK, the tankard in question is stamped on the bottom "Reed & Barton Pewter -P30"
Now the second one I mentioned has several different stamps on the side of the mug. I can't make out the first and the third, but the middle one looks like initials (rWp). Then under those it looks like "USA".

The maker or age is not all that important. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't being poisioned (lead). Thanks.

The rWp may be Wilton - Armatelle?
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Butch on February 27, 2010, 11:57:01 AM
My son, who's got a bunch of pewter mugs, got an info sheet with one (a Wilton Armatale marked rWp), it says to first wash and air dry the mug, then fill the mug to the brim with the beverage of choice, and let it sit for a day.  Then, don't wash it again (you can rinse it).  It also suggests prefilling the mug with ice for 15 sec before emptying it and adding a beverage you wish to remain cold.
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: shadowcat546 on March 01, 2010, 10:18:51 PM
**___**...I know the paper instructions that came with it may have recommended something.  I'm just giving back my $0.02, about what I would/wouldn't do with food & drink.  Hope your mug continues to be of service without funny aftertaste. --S

Hi.  As a re-enactor, I own, use, and sell quite  a bit of the stuff.
Your "maker mark" on the metal mug seems to be Revereware.  Hand wash!!, regular dishwashing soap.  Or "Barkeeper's friend" a non abrasive scouring powder (and or liquid) seen in cleaning aisle of groc or hardware stores. Wash, rinse well.  Revereware/"Wilton Armetale" does not like acidic foods, drinks.  I do not believe you have lead in your mug, but I wouldn't recommend leaving any liquid to sit in the mug for more than 1 hour (including water).
Brand new wilton armetale is still for sale at some stores near my hometown.  I happen to like the much more affordable prices of nearly-new.

(pulled from various websites, as I no longer have the instruction sheets for new Wilton Armetale vessels).
Wilton Armetale is a  fusion of 10 different metals, a sand-cast alloy that looks similar to pewter, but does not contain silver or pewter.   It imparts the warmth and patina of fine pewter.  It's an unique, non-toxic, food-safe metal that  looks like pewter but it's stronger, more durable and  has superior heat + cold retention ability.   The Wilton Armetale Co. from Lancaster County, Pa., is a  business founded in 1892 by Ralph  Wilton.  Some (exterior) "finishes" to the metal end up as shiny, some tarnish over age but often can be revived with scouring.
Also known as pewterex, carson statesmetal,  mock-pewter, or Revere-ware

I would not agree to these instructions...:"then fill the mug to the brim with the beverage of choice, and let it sit for a day.  Then, don't wash it again (you can rinse it). "

If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask._____Shannon
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Butch on March 02, 2010, 06:27:53 AM
Well, that was what was written on the instruction card included by Wilton.  Just passing it along!  As always, your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Gauwyn of Bracknell on March 02, 2010, 10:51:51 AM
I was always told that wash the armetale once with soap and water and not to use soap again - but then I used to eat lead paint chips off our window sill :)
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Jessi on March 02, 2010, 07:23:11 PM
Thank you everyone for your help. I think I should get some mead and try the 2 at home to and see if there is a difference in the way it tastes. Yes, that sounds like a plan. MORE mead!!! :D
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Butch on March 02, 2010, 10:25:39 PM
MMMM!  Mead!  What kind do you like?  I really enjoy the Olivers Camelot mead.  The Chaucers tastes kinda chemically to me.  There is also a local winery that makes mead, called Pirtle (located in Weston, MO, just outside the KC suburbs to the Northwest).  Their mead is kinda flowery, in my opinion.

Really like the Olivers, though!
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Jessi on March 03, 2010, 05:11:40 AM
Honestly, I have no idea what kind I like. My boyfriend usually fills the mug for me. I just drink it!  :D
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: DonaCatalina on April 19, 2010, 11:45:39 AM
Did you fix the flavor issue? Someone told me that soaking it overnight in mixture of 1 cup distilled water,1 tsp. salt, 1 cup vinegar.
Rinse thoroughly before using.
Title: Re: My pewter tankard tastes funny
Post by: Jessi on April 19, 2010, 05:19:59 PM
Honestly, I forgot all about trying to fix the problem because I started using one of the other mugs that I bought.  :D