RenaissanceFestival.com Forums

South => Scarborough Renaissance Festival => Topic started by: LadyStitch on April 12, 2010, 10:03:17 AM

Title: Parade question
Post by: LadyStitch on April 12, 2010, 10:03:17 AM
This past weekend I saw people who were FOF marching in the parade and were not cast.  I didn't think you could do that.  ???
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: DonaCatalina on April 12, 2010, 10:12:17 AM
People who are in the Royal Guard, the Musketeers and the Queen's Own Highlanders are not necessarily cast but they do march in the parade. And on some occasions playtrons may be invited to march as well.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 10:14:04 AM
Shop owners also get non-cast members to march and carry the shop banner. My daughter marched this weekend for the first time.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Nicolas-Antoine on April 12, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
Yeah - if it was only cast it would be a very small parade!!! ;) ;) You'd be surprised how many folks that look and act and participate with the cast actually aren't cast. That's one thing that that I think makes Scarby very unique and puts the faire a notch above other faires.


And on the subject of the parade, did anyone catch that the Musketeers are now marching with the Scots and guarding Queen Margaret and not marching with the Royal Guard?
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 10:48:28 AM
Quote from: Nicolas-Antoine on April 12, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
Yeah - if it was only cast it would be a very small parade!!! ;) ;) You'd be surprised how many folks that look and act and participate with the cast actually aren't cast. That's one thing that that I think makes Scarby very unique and puts the faire a notch above other faires.


And on the subject of the parade, did anyone catch that the Musketeers are now marching with the Scots and guarding Queen Margaret and not marching with the Royal Guard?

It seems their loyalty has switched.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: lilaney on April 12, 2010, 11:32:01 AM
Not Really, Merlin..
Makes more sense for the French to march with the Scots.. The Old Alliance and all..
:-)

Looking forward to all the pictures from this weekend!!
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Sir Moostifer on April 12, 2010, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: Nicolas-Antoine on April 12, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
Yeah - if it was only cast it would be a very small parade!!! ;) ;) You'd be surprised how many folks that look and act and participate with the cast actually aren't cast. That's one thing that that I think makes Scarby very unique and puts the faire a notch above other faires.


And on the subject of the parade, did anyone catch that the Musketeers are now marching with the Scots and guarding Queen Margaret and not marching with the Royal Guard?

looked as if the numbers were low for the Royal guard compared to years past...
also noticed heavy recruiting from both the Scots and the Royal Guard this year... hmmm, perhaps a change in the tide?
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 12:01:44 PM
Quote from: Sir Moostifer on April 12, 2010, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: Nicolas-Antoine on April 12, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
Yeah - if it was only cast it would be a very small parade!!! ;) ;) You'd be surprised how many folks that look and act and participate with the cast actually aren't cast. That's one thing that that I think makes Scarby very unique and puts the faire a notch above other faires.


And on the subject of the parade, did anyone catch that the Musketeers are now marching with the Scots and guarding Queen Margaret and not marching with the Royal Guard?

looked as if the numbers were low for the Royal guard compared to years past...
also noticed heavy recruiting from both the Scots and the Royal Guard this year... hmmm, perhaps a change in the tide?
Sir Moostifer..... Reaper got a great shot of you.... you also showed up in my video ... still uploading it to my YouTube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/stunts4film?feature=mhw5#p/u (http://www.youtube.com/user/stunts4film?feature=mhw5#p/u)
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: LadyShadow on April 12, 2010, 12:03:55 PM
I must say, this past weekend was my first trip to Scarby, and I enjoyed how friendly everyone in the parade seemed to be.  Everyone marching did such a great job.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: raevyncait on April 12, 2010, 01:00:34 PM
Yep, I did notice that the French & Scots seemed to have come to an accord.

Also LadyStitch, if you think Opening Parade is impressive... come back on Memorial Day... when ALL veterans and military personnel are invited to march... I think they alone triple the size of the parade!
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Ronald the Bald on April 12, 2010, 01:00:53 PM
At Scarby it is sometimes hard to tell cast from playtrons. Makes it look like a huge cast and that makes the faire more impressive to mundanes (and to us too).

With the English Royal Guard the ones in scarlet tend to be cast and the ones in green tend to be playtrons. The Royal Guard's numbers are down this year for several reasons, including the loss of several of the hard core regulars. It is not unusual for guard members to become cast later.

Yes the Scots do actively recruit anyone they see in a kilt to come march with us. It is rare for anyone marching with the Scots to be cast. We even have loaner swords for those without. Several on any given day are first timers marching with 5 minutes instruction. That is why you see a few hicups from time to time. If you are interested make a reasonable attempt at Scottish grab (kilt, shirt, and something more period than tennis shoes, similar for the ladies) and show up about 12:15 at the cottage.

The same is true for Queen Margaret's guards and many members of the Scottish Court. None of her guards have been cast for many years. Formal Scottish Court is held at 3:30 near the maypole. The skits and presentations are about 50/50 cast and playtron. It is real improv and no one knows all of what is going to happen in advance. Part of the fun is taking the queen by surprise. Memorial Day of 2007 there were about 300 people acting in the program for the day at court. Most of those were not cast.

In addition to the parade and guard we also provide pike arches for weddings. Again, no cast are involved. Scarborough does charge for the pike arch as part of some wedding packages, and Scarborough contributes these wedding funds to our awards and party fund. Last year I did the arch for 18 of the weddings. The year before I did 22.

Last year the wedding coordinator forgot to tell us about a wedding in advance. In just a few minutes before the wedding enough Scots passing by the wedding garden were pressed into service to double our normal showing.

The festival lets us play and participate in a way I have not seen at other faire I have been to. (Both Four Winds and TRF do have some of this and do try, but patrons there don't seem to get the hang of it.) At another faire last summer I tried to play with the cast, but they didn't seem to understand the concept.

I work hard at faire. But I am not part of cast, not an employee of the faire, don't have to show up for rehearsals, get lots of pictures taken of me, and have a really good time.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Corinne Bagley on April 12, 2010, 01:44:17 PM
My boyfriend and I were asked to march in the parade by the Queen's Own highlanders on Sunday.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 01:47:34 PM
The "Dr. Who" gang were quickly removed from the parade
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Sir Moostifer on April 12, 2010, 02:06:31 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 12:01:44 PM

Sir Moostifer..... Reaper got a great shot of you.... you also showed up in my video ... still uploading it to my YouTube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/stunts4film?feature=mhw5#p/u (http://www.youtube.com/user/stunts4film?feature=mhw5#p/u)

if it is of the parade, hopefully it was before my belt tried to make an escape  :o it became loose about half way thru and I had to hold onto it to keep it from falling around my knees  :D
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: Sir Moostifer on April 12, 2010, 02:06:31 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 12:01:44 PM

Sir Moostifer..... Reaper got a great shot of you.... you also showed up in my video ... still uploading it to my YouTube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/stunts4film?feature=mhw5#p/u (http://www.youtube.com/user/stunts4film?feature=mhw5#p/u)

if it is of the parade, hopefully it was before my belt tried to make an escape  :o it became loose about half way thru and I had to hold onto it to keep it from falling around my knees  :D

I just watched the part with you in it.... it does appear that you are holding up your belt... LOL
http://www.youtube.com/user/stunts4film?feature=mhw5 (http://www.youtube.com/user/stunts4film?feature=mhw5)
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Nicolas-Antoine on April 12, 2010, 04:24:22 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 01:47:34 PM
The "Dr. Who" gang were quickly removed from the parade

Yes - since the parade is such a huge photo op and these photos are viewed by the masses, it is a stressed that only those in "period" garb should march in the parade. The Royal Guard rules do allow for a 100 year spread on both side of 1533 mainly to allow for the the Musketeers as they are from the 1600's but are a very recognized crowd pleaser. The Royal Guard does a good job of policing this within their ranks. Two years ago some "gothers" put on green sashes and tried to get into the parade. They were quickly dismissed.  And of course there are allowed exceptions just as the fantasy characters,  because they are recognized and appreciated by the crowd, especially the little ones, as well as barbarians and the more recognized pirates. I believe the pirates that we are most familiar with are more from the 1600's to the 1800's.  However outside of the Royal Guard, everyone (I believe) in the parade starts from behind the gates so if some "out of period" characters do make it in, then they most likely slipped in once the parade cleared the keep.

Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 04:32:30 PM
Quote from: Nicolas-Antoine on April 12, 2010, 04:24:22 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 01:47:34 PM
The "Dr. Who" gang were quickly removed from the parade

Yes - since the parade is such a huge photo op and these photos are viewed by the masses, it is a stressed that only those in "period" garb should march in the parade. The Royal Guard rules do allow for a 100 year spread on both side of 1533 mainly to allow for the the Musketeers as they are from the 1600's but are a very recognized crowd pleaser. The Royal Guard does a good job of policing this within their ranks. Two years ago some "gothers" put on green sashes and tried to get into the parade. They were quickly dismissed.  And of course there are allowed exceptions just as the fantasy characters,  because they are recognized and appreciated by the crowd, especially the little ones, as well as barbarians and the more recognized pirates. I believe the pirates that we are most familiar with are more from the 1600's to the 1800's.  However outside of the Royal Guard, everyone (I believe) in the parade starts from behind the gates so if some "out of period" characters do make it in, then they most likely slipped in once the parade cleared the keep.



They tried to jump in at the gate.... near the end. They were respectful when told they shouldn't participate in the parade... I actually talked with them a bit at Cat n Fiddle.. interesting group.
This brought up a discussion with me and the wife-unit.... she was a bit put out by them.... her views are these things take away from the ambiance of the intended aim towards renaissance and my views are that I don't really allow the actions of others to effect my day. We clinked glasses.... said Huzzah and moved on.

(Whew.... I dodged that one!)
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: SirRichardBear on April 12, 2010, 04:42:43 PM
I have no problem with  people attending at faire wearing different cusumes star trek, star wars, Doctor Who etc but not in the parade, the parade is a special type of show. 

If I wear my kilt to an anime convention and I have a number of times, I wouldn't expect to be allowed into the cosplay show.  I also wouldn't expect to be part of a civil war reenactment even if one Unit from NY did have kilts as their offical dress uniform. 
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 01:47:34 PM
The "Dr. Who" gang were quickly removed from the parade

Generally I'm more a reader of things than a poster, but I was waiting for this to come up, and knew it would.. and absolutely wanted to apologize to everyone and explain what went on since we absolutely didn't want to step on toes. (We were just there for the humor sake of the Doctor and his often shown love of Human history!)

While the group has a few regular faire goers (myself and perhaps 2 others) we weren't there or, in my case, too tired from staying up all night sewing to particularly notice where we were headed. The one other rennie (a rather vocal one at that) told the bulk of them that we had been given permission. A few noted this as off the norm but he persisted. Therefore, compounded with a huge group of 20 or so being directed by a much older, supposedly more established faire goer, went in.

The moment it was made clear otherwise however, we vacated. I'm terribly sorry for the occurrence and hope no one thinks less of the doctor who folk who came out just for a bit of fun. It absolutely wasn't the intent and I only wish I'd been a bit more aware of going ons at that point to stop things from happening- but what happened has happened and all I can do is profusely apologize. Because lord knows I'll be at faire in regular garb and would hate for the others to think that the rest of them were acting on anything more than bad information given to a load of newbies from someone who had presented himself as a respected playtron who should've known the way things work.
So once again- I'm sorry for any bad impression that was left with the occurrence. I assure you that the bulk (and by bulk I mean all of them except for said fellow who lead them all astray) had been given bad information and are extremely sorry for any stepping on toes.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 06:08:01 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 01:47:34 PM
The "Dr. Who" gang were quickly removed from the parade

I was waiting for this to come up, and knew it would.. and absolutely wanted to apologize to everyone and explain what went on since we absolutely didn't want to step on toes. (We were just there for the humor sake of the Doctor and his often shown love of Human history!)

While the group has a few regular faire goers (myself and perhaps 2 others) we weren't there or, in my case, too tired from staying up all night sewing to particularly notice where we were headed. The one other rennie (a rather vocal one at that) told the bulk of them that we had been given permission. A few noted this as off the norm but he persisted. Therefore, compounded with a huge group of 20 or so being directed by a much older, supposedly more established faire goer, went in.

The moment it was made clear otherwise however, we vacated. I'm terribly sorry for the occurrence and hope no one thinks less of the doctor who folk who came out just for a bit of fun. It absolutely wasn't the intent and I only wish I'd been a bit more aware of going ons at that point to stop things from happening- but what happened has happened and all I can do is profusely apologize. Because lord knows I'll be at faire in regular garb and would hate for the others to think that the rest of them were acting on anything more than bad information given to a load of newbies from someone who had presented himself as a respected playtron and mature enough to know that things like that shouldn't have happened and that by doing such was giving a whole bunch of people a reputation that is, as we know now, as off as his.

So once again- I'm sorry for any bad impression that was left with the occurrence. I assure you that the bulk (and by bulk I mean all of them except for said fellow who lead them all astray) had been given bad information and are extremely sorry for any stepping on toes.

Now it makes more sense.... thanks for that explanation ... I know who you are referring to in your post... now I know why you and the others were not responding to his call to come back.... he wanted to "follow the parade'.... ergo not actually being "in the parade'...but you guys kept walking away. Kudos to you!

Huzzah to you and the others..... you looked great and I respect you for respecting the wishes of the parade commissioner.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 06:08:01 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 01:47:34 PM
The "Dr. Who" gang were quickly removed from the parade

I was waiting for this to come up, and knew it would.. and absolutely wanted to apologize to everyone and explain what went on since we absolutely didn't want to step on toes. (We were just there for the humor sake of the Doctor and his often shown love of Human history!)

While the group has a few regular faire goers (myself and perhaps 2 others) we weren't there or, in my case, too tired from staying up all night sewing to particularly notice where we were headed. The one other rennie (a rather vocal one at that) told the bulk of them that we had been given permission. A few noted this as off the norm but he persisted. Therefore, compounded with a huge group of 20 or so being directed by a much older, supposedly more established faire goer, went in.

The moment it was made clear otherwise however, we vacated. I'm terribly sorry for the occurrence and hope no one thinks less of the doctor who folk who came out just for a bit of fun. It absolutely wasn't the intent and I only wish I'd been a bit more aware of going ons at that point to stop things from happening- but what happened has happened and all I can do is profusely apologize. Because lord knows I'll be at faire in regular garb and would hate for the others to think that the rest of them were acting on anything more than bad information given to a load of newbies from someone who had presented himself as a respected playtron and mature enough to know that things like that shouldn't have happened and that by doing such was giving a whole bunch of people a reputation that is, as we know now, as off as his.

So once again- I'm sorry for any bad impression that was left with the occurrence. I assure you that the bulk (and by bulk I mean all of them except for said fellow who lead them all astray) had been given bad information and are extremely sorry for any stepping on toes.

Now it makes more sense.... thanks for that explanation ... I know who you are referring to in your post... now I know why you and the others were not responding to his call to come back.... he wanted to "follow the parade'.... ergo not actually being "in the parade'...but you guys kept walking away. Kudos to you!

Huzzah to you and the others..... you looked great and I respect you for respecting the wishes of the parade commissioner.

Not a problem! I love the faire, the cast, and all the relationships I've built there and would absolutely hate to loose that just through one regretful occurrence.  I honestly didn't even hear him yelling to come back- the moment I'd realized where we'd headed and what he wanted us to do, I steered who I could away from the line. I hope everyone will be as understanding as you are about the event, and I thank you for accepting the apology. It's a small but important relief and I'm sure when I let the others know that there's some clarification out there for us. We're in the process of emailing Dan an apology because, while maybe it's not so big a deal as be required, it's a formal nicety that too few people don't act on anymore.

And thank you for the compliment! I worked hard on a good many of those costumes and while certainly not period it's a novelty that general fans of the television show can enjoy the one or two times we'll take them out to faire. The beauty of Doctor who is, within a few exceptions, those who don't know what it is would probably just see most the outfits as strange but normal clothing.  Except in cases of the boorish sixth doctor.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 06:33:09 PM
It's a non-issue... I assure you this.

The fact the majority immediately respected the wishes of the parade commander goes far.

Give it nay another thought.

Come out in 2 weeks for the Rendezvous and find me in the FOF parking lot... I'll have a mimosa waiting for you.

I'm easy to spot.... weird bald wizard by the name of Merlin....look for the Toyota 4-runner with the Scottish flag up close in the FOF parking area.....

Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Bonny Pearl on April 12, 2010, 06:39:43 PM
merlin, won't you be wearing your kilt on rendezvous?  it is highland weekend and all.... just sayin..... ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: Bonny Pearl on April 12, 2010, 06:39:43 PM
merlin, won't you be wearing your kilt on rendezvous?  it is highland weekend and all.... just sayin..... ;D  ;)

See.... that's the thing... most people will recognize me as Merlin so for Saturday I'm thinking Merlin is in order... Sunday I will definitely be kilted though.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Bonny Pearl on April 12, 2010, 06:50:07 PM
well then we will miss seeing your kilt again, lol.  we will only be in attendance on saturday.  it's okay, there's always closing weekend.  ;D
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 06:57:06 PM
In that case... I'll be kilted on Saturday as well.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 07:03:49 PM
Everyone please take note of my new avatar.... Bonnie makes a very good point... the Rendezvous weekend is also the Scottish weekend.... and I am Scottish so I should be kilted that weekend.

I'm still weird and bald.... and I will still serve free mimosas at my Toyota 4-Runner with the Scottish flag....

Maybe I just wont scare as many children that weekend now.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Bonny Pearl on April 12, 2010, 07:05:48 PM
LOL that is awesome Merlin!   ;D

Love the kilt!

This is the tartan we will be wearing on Rendezvous Saturday.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4516495190_f1847a1136_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Nicolas-Antoine on April 12, 2010, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
Not a problem! I love the faire, the cast, and all the relationships I've built there and would absolutely hate to loose that just through one regretful occurrence.  I honestly didn't even hear him yelling to come back- the moment I'd realized where we'd headed and what he wanted us to do, I steered who I could away from the line. I hope everyone will be as understanding as you are about the event, and I thank you for accepting the apology. It's a small but important relief and I'm sure when I let the others know that there's some clarification out there for us. We're in the process of emailing Dan an apology because, while maybe it's not so big a deal as be required, it's a formal nicety that too few people don't act on anymore.

And thank you for the compliment! I worked hard on a good many of those costumes and while certainly not period it's a novelty that general fans of the television show can enjoy the one or two times we'll take them out to faire. The beauty of Doctor who is, within a few exceptions, those who don't know what it is would probably just see most the outfits as strange but normal clothing.  Except in cases of the boorish sixth doctor.

Well I'm just glad to see you posting again!!!  One more post and you'll have an even 10 ;)

Hopefully next weekend we'll actually run into each other! ;D



Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 09:49:40 PM
Quote from: Nicolas-Antoine on April 12, 2010, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
Not a problem! I love the faire, the cast, and all the relationships I've built there and would absolutely hate to loose that just through one regretful occurrence.  I honestly didn't even hear him yelling to come back- the moment I'd realized where we'd headed and what he wanted us to do, I steered who I could away from the line. I hope everyone will be as understanding as you are about the event, and I thank you for accepting the apology. It's a small but important relief and I'm sure when I let the others know that there's some clarification out there for us. We're in the process of emailing Dan an apology because, while maybe it's not so big a deal as be required, it's a formal nicety that too few people don't act on anymore.

And thank you for the compliment! I worked hard on a good many of those costumes and while certainly not period it's a novelty that general fans of the television show can enjoy the one or two times we'll take them out to faire. The beauty of Doctor who is, within a few exceptions, those who don't know what it is would probably just see most the outfits as strange but normal clothing.  Except in cases of the boorish sixth doctor.

Well I'm just glad to see you posting again!!!  One more post and you'll have an even 10 ;)

Hopefully next weekend we'll actually run into each other! ;D





Hopefully! It all depends on where I get on my school work- My final show is happening in the beginning of May so after that I'll be out and about every weekend. But I might come out this saturday and then the week after on Sunday to meet Merlin above! It'll be a nice break from all the sewing.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Al-Nimer on April 12, 2010, 11:21:46 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 06:08:01 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 01:47:34 PM
The "Dr. Who" gang were quickly removed from the parade

I was waiting for this to come up, and knew it would.. and absolutely wanted to apologize to everyone and explain what went on since we absolutely didn't want to step on toes. (We were just there for the humor sake of the Doctor and his often shown love of Human history!)

While the group has a few regular faire goers (myself and perhaps 2 others) we weren't there or, in my case, too tired from staying up all night sewing to particularly notice where we were headed. The one other rennie (a rather vocal one at that) told the bulk of them that we had been given permission. A few noted this as off the norm but he persisted. Therefore, compounded with a huge group of 20 or so being directed by a much older, supposedly more established faire goer, went in.

The moment it was made clear otherwise however, we vacated. I'm terribly sorry for the occurrence and hope no one thinks less of the doctor who folk who came out just for a bit of fun. It absolutely wasn't the intent and I only wish I'd been a bit more aware of going ons at that point to stop things from happening- but what happened has happened and all I can do is profusely apologize. Because lord knows I'll be at faire in regular garb and would hate for the others to think that the rest of them were acting on anything more than bad information given to a load of newbies from someone who had presented himself as a respected playtron and mature enough to know that things like that shouldn't have happened and that by doing such was giving a whole bunch of people a reputation that is, as we know now, as off as his.

So once again- I'm sorry for any bad impression that was left with the occurrence. I assure you that the bulk (and by bulk I mean all of them except for said fellow who lead them all astray) had been given bad information and are extremely sorry for any stepping on toes.

Now it makes more sense.... thanks for that explanation ... I know who you are referring to in your post... now I know why you and the others were not responding to his call to come back.... he wanted to "follow the parade'.... ergo not actually being "in the parade'...but you guys kept walking away. Kudos to you!

Huzzah to you and the others..... you looked great and I respect you for respecting the wishes of the parade commissioner.

Not a problem! I love the faire, the cast, and all the relationships I've built there and would absolutely hate to loose that just through one regretful occurrence.  I honestly didn't even hear him yelling to come back- the moment I'd realized where we'd headed and what he wanted us to do, I steered who I could away from the line. I hope everyone will be as understanding as you are about the event, and I thank you for accepting the apology. It's a small but important relief and I'm sure when I let the others know that there's some clarification out there for us. We're in the process of emailing Dan an apology because, while maybe it's not so big a deal as be required, it's a formal nicety that too few people don't act on anymore.

And thank you for the compliment! I worked hard on a good many of those costumes and while certainly not period it's a novelty that general fans of the television show can enjoy the one or two times we'll take them out to faire. The beauty of Doctor who is, within a few exceptions, those who don't know what it is would probably just see most the outfits as strange but normal clothing.  Except in cases of the boorish sixth doctor.

I absolutely loved seeing all the various incarnations of the Doctor & his companions!  You did an awesome job on those costumes and I hope to see them again...maybe on the Day of Wrong?  My wife (cowgrrl) was very sorry she was not there to see them...
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Amaya on April 13, 2010, 12:10:03 AM
Quote from: Al-Nimer on April 12, 2010, 11:21:46 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 06:08:01 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 01:47:34 PM
The "Dr. Who" gang were quickly removed from the parade

I was waiting for this to come up, and knew it would.. and absolutely wanted to apologize to everyone and explain what went on since we absolutely didn't want to step on toes. (We were just there for the humor sake of the Doctor and his often shown love of Human history!)

While the group has a few regular faire goers (myself and perhaps 2 others) we weren't there or, in my case, too tired from staying up all night sewing to particularly notice where we were headed. The one other rennie (a rather vocal one at that) told the bulk of them that we had been given permission. A few noted this as off the norm but he persisted. Therefore, compounded with a huge group of 20 or so being directed by a much older, supposedly more established faire goer, went in.

The moment it was made clear otherwise however, we vacated. I'm terribly sorry for the occurrence and hope no one thinks less of the doctor who folk who came out just for a bit of fun. It absolutely wasn't the intent and I only wish I'd been a bit more aware of going ons at that point to stop things from happening- but what happened has happened and all I can do is profusely apologize. Because lord knows I'll be at faire in regular garb and would hate for the others to think that the rest of them were acting on anything more than bad information given to a load of newbies from someone who had presented himself as a respected playtron and mature enough to know that things like that shouldn't have happened and that by doing such was giving a whole bunch of people a reputation that is, as we know now, as off as his.

So once again- I'm sorry for any bad impression that was left with the occurrence. I assure you that the bulk (and by bulk I mean all of them except for said fellow who lead them all astray) had been given bad information and are extremely sorry for any stepping on toes.

Now it makes more sense.... thanks for that explanation ... I know who you are referring to in your post... now I know why you and the others were not responding to his call to come back.... he wanted to "follow the parade'.... ergo not actually being "in the parade'...but you guys kept walking away. Kudos to you!

Huzzah to you and the others..... you looked great and I respect you for respecting the wishes of the parade commissioner.

Not a problem! I love the faire, the cast, and all the relationships I've built there and would absolutely hate to loose that just through one regretful occurrence.  I honestly didn't even hear him yelling to come back- the moment I'd realized where we'd headed and what he wanted us to do, I steered who I could away from the line. I hope everyone will be as understanding as you are about the event, and I thank you for accepting the apology. It's a small but important relief and I'm sure when I let the others know that there's some clarification out there for us. We're in the process of emailing Dan an apology because, while maybe it's not so big a deal as be required, it's a formal nicety that too few people don't act on anymore.

And thank you for the compliment! I worked hard on a good many of those costumes and while certainly not period it's a novelty that general fans of the television show can enjoy the one or two times we'll take them out to faire. The beauty of Doctor who is, within a few exceptions, those who don't know what it is would probably just see most the outfits as strange but normal clothing.  Except in cases of the boorish sixth doctor.

I absolutely loved seeing all the various incarnations of the Doctor & his companions!  You did an awesome job on those costumes and I hope to see them again...maybe on the Day of Wrong?  My wife (cowgrrl) was very sorry she was not there to see them...

Thanks! The plan is to go back as doctors sometime in May- mostly because I had been too tired to really enjoy the faire-which is why the fifth doctor (myself of course!) had been asleep practically anywhere we stopped. So sometime mid-may, we'll make a return trip. Likely smaller, but still a return! Before then I'll be out and about in my usual gypsy garb.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Laird Fraser of Lovatt on April 13, 2010, 07:02:32 AM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 07:03:49 PM
Everyone please take note of my new avatar.... Bonnie makes a very good point... the Rendezvous weekend is also the Scottish weekend.... and I am Scottish so I should be kilted that weekend.

I'm still weird and bald.... and I will still serve free mimosas at my Toyota 4-Runner with the Scottish flag....

Maybe I just wont scare as many children that weekend now.



Good luck not scaring little kids, brother... lol.  :D
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: dleighb on April 13, 2010, 12:51:37 PM
As my husband said when I told him about the Dr. Who group, "Of all the sci-fi characters to show up at a Renaissance Faire, Dr. Who is the one who best belongs there. At least he is a time traveler." That being said, thank you and the other members of your group for stepping out of the parade when you realized the reality of the situation. It would have been confusing to those spectators who were unfamiliar with Dr. Who and his companions. Also, thank you for the explanation as I had heard the story and was curious about it.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: captmarga on April 13, 2010, 01:23:21 PM
Quote from: Sir Moostifer on April 12, 2010, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: Nicolas-Antoine on April 12, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
Yeah - if it was only cast it would be a very small parade!!! ;) ;) You'd be surprised how many folks that look and act and participate with the cast actually aren't cast. That's one thing that that I think makes Scarby very unique and puts the faire a notch above other faires.



looked as if the numbers were low for the Royal guard compared to years past...


'Tis true.  The Guard (Green sashes, which are playtrons) always fluctuate in numbers.  This year we have one who is Squiring on the lists.  We lost four to that great Faire in the Sky.  Their untimely deaths left a hole in the ranks that can never quite be filled.  One of them was my own husband.  I also left the Guard, once more to return to Cast.   That is six of the regulars who attended nearly every day of Faire, some of us for the past several years (and beyond).

There are Guards who are Scots and Scots who come back to Guard.  One day forces are opposing, the next joined in Legion. 

It's all in the spirit of fun, and being a part of the Magic.

Whether you choose to wear a green sash, a plaid across your shoulder, or avoid either group is up to you... but these groups are unique and special to Scarborough. 

Vive Faire!

Capt Marga (She who is now Jofranka Whispersteppe)
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: cowgrrl on April 13, 2010, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 13, 2010, 12:10:03 AM

Thanks! The plan is to go back as doctors sometime in May- mostly because I had been too tired to really enjoy the faire-which is why the fifth doctor (myself of course!) had been asleep practically anywhere we stopped. So sometime mid-may, we'll make a return trip. Likely smaller, but still a return! Before then I'll be out and about in my usual gypsy garb.

PLEASE not the weekend of May 22nd!!  We will not be there & I'm dying to see the 'Whos' in person. 
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Amaya on April 14, 2010, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: cowgrrl on April 13, 2010, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 13, 2010, 12:10:03 AM

Thanks! The plan is to go back as doctors sometime in May- mostly because I had been too tired to really enjoy the faire-which is why the fifth doctor (myself of course!) had been asleep practically anywhere we stopped. So sometime mid-may, we'll make a return trip. Likely smaller, but still a return! Before then I'll be out and about in my usual gypsy garb.

PLEASE not the weekend of May 22nd!!  We will not be there & I'm dying to see the 'Whos' in person. 

I'll be sure to steer us all clear of that weekend, then!

dleighb-Glad to explain. I definitely agree- perhaps, if the setting was actually in the UK it'd be something that would belong but as it's not the same level of phenomenon here in the states.. it really doesn't have a place in the parade. I'm just relieved to be able to be able to explain the occurrence and clear the air.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: cowgrrl on April 17, 2010, 09:36:43 PM
So today I noticed another 'infiltration' of the parade.  I was sitting in front of the stage where Arsene & the German Twins perform.  Everything was pretty standard (gypsies, bellydancers. Musketeers, etc) when all of a sudden I notice a random bellydancer & a Lolita in a plaid dress.  I can't remember where they were exactly but it was after the vendors but before the nobility. 

After Al-Nimer got home (he was performing today) I asked him if he saw a Lolita in the parade.  He told me the bellydancer chick tried to get in with the dancers he performs with but he managed to block her.  I guess they found another way to become part of the 'act'.  He's going to mention it to the dancers & drummers he performs with so that if they try to get in again he can block them.

What is it about the parade that makes people think they can just join in?  I'd never even think of doing that.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Lord Glycon on May 17, 2010, 05:38:26 PM
The old alliance with the French makes sense so the French should be marching with the Scots. Why they ever marched with the English remains a mystery.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: SirRichardBear on May 17, 2010, 09:34:46 PM
Because in 1533 England held a small part of France and the idea was that the Frence who walked with the SRG were from that part of France held by the English.


    In real world terms they did so because they perfer to walk instead of marching with drawn weapons so it made more sense for them to walk with the English.  Logistic you know.  Even this seaons you notice the only real difference is that they are between the QOH and SRG instead of being behind the English they still walk not march.   Remember the parade must be run is such a way that it completes the route in half hour so you have to have groups that do simular things in the same general section of the parade.
Title: Hey, there I am !!!
Post by: Wolfhawker on May 18, 2010, 02:50:46 AM
I am in Merlin's wonderful movie.  I walk off screen at 1:27l; 3:21; 7:17; 8:17.  I am wearing a TX Blue Bonnet Kilt with a Brown Rob Roy.

I did not mean to start this reply as a bragging but to indicate to my new 'family' that how special my playton treat me and make me feel at home. I have grownt to know several person on this location in persona and this forum allows me to be close to them during 'off time'.

I want to thank the R/F community for taking me into thier ranks and allowing me to attempt to be one with them.

William "Hawk" Bennett
AKA
William "The Hawk" Kerr
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: iain robb on May 18, 2010, 06:36:02 AM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 12:01:44 PM
Quote from: Sir Moostifer on April 12, 2010, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: Nicolas-Antoine on April 12, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
Yeah - if it was only cast it would be a very small parade!!! ;) ;) You'd be surprised how many folks that look and act and participate with the cast actually aren't cast. That's one thing that that I think makes Scarby very unique and puts the faire a notch above other faires.


And on the subject of the parade, did anyone catch that the Musketeers are now marching with the Scots and guarding Queen Margaret and not marching with the Royal Guard?

looked as if the numbers were low for the Royal guard compared to years past...
also noticed heavy recruiting from both the Scots and the Royal Guard this year... hmmm, perhaps a change in the tide?
Sir Moostifer..... Reaper got a great shot of you.... you also showed up in my video ... still uploading it to my YouTube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/stunts4film?feature=mhw5#p/u (http://www.youtube.com/user/stunts4film?feature=mhw5#p/u)

OK, here's something funny. At least, it was funny to me.

I'm watching the video, and I realize as the Scots come parading past, that this is Sunday's parade, so there are no shots of me marching with the Scots. I watched Sunday's parade. (Because of course, it's all about me.)

Then I realize, "That looks like the place I watched the parade from," and lo and behold, there are my wife and I in the background for almost the whole of one of the parade scenes, starting about 1:52. I'm on the right in the mostly red kilt with a black vest, boots and hat and tan shirt. My wife is to my left in mostly green. Sorry we didn't wave!
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Nicolas-Antoine on May 20, 2010, 11:37:05 AM
Quote from: SirRichardBear on May 17, 2010, 09:34:46 PM
Because in 1533 England held a small part of France and the idea was that the Frence who walked with the SRG were from that part of France held by the English.


    In real world terms they did so because they perfer to walk instead of marching with drawn weapons so it made more sense for them to walk with the English.  Logistic you know.  Even this seaons you notice the only real difference is that they are between the QOH and SRG instead of being behind the English they still walk not march.   Remember the parade must be run is such a way that it completes the route in half hour so you have to have groups that do simular things in the same general section of the parade.

But the real reason is both the Scots and English are trying to get a hold of our time travel technology that allowed us to travel from 1661 to 1533... shhhhhh
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Ronald the Bald on May 20, 2010, 11:49:46 AM
Nicolas-Antoine,

You might just notice that the Scots are dressed more for 1661 than 1533. It is difficult somethings living in a time warp.

How did this happen? I blame the tachyon particles expelled after eating haggis creating an instability in the time/space continuum. French time travel technology, although just as effective, requires a much higher level of technology. 
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: captmarga on May 20, 2010, 02:12:07 PM
Quote from: Lord Glycon on May 17, 2010, 05:38:26 PM
The old alliance with the French makes sense so the French should be marching with the Scots. Why they ever marched with the English remains a mystery.

Because that's where the parade co-ordinator wants them???

Capt Marga
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Queen Margaret on May 20, 2010, 02:46:06 PM
Quote from: Ronald the Bald on May 20, 2010, 11:49:46 AM
Nicolas-Antoine,

You might just notice that the Scots are dressed more for 1661 than 1533. It is difficult somethings living in a time warp.

How did this happen? I blame the tachyon particles expelled after eating haggis creating an instability in the time/space continuum. French time travel technology, although just as effective, requires a much higher level of technology. 

Actually, this is a case of "theatre wins" because our audience (the non-garbed set/first-timers) might not recognize the historically accurate version of the Scot as "Scot". They would, however, recognize someone who looked like they stepped off the sets of Braveheart or Rob Roy. I know this sets the teeth of purists on edge, but we never said we were 100% historically authentic.  ;D Much as this might chafe some, we are entertainment first.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Brittney on May 20, 2010, 03:25:55 PM
History or not - we all like a pretty leg in a kilt.
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: SirRichardBear on May 20, 2010, 03:54:19 PM
Please hamsome unless your talking about some of the ladies that wear kilts. 
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Merlin the Elder on May 20, 2010, 04:09:15 PM
Quote from: Queen Margaret on May 20, 2010, 02:46:06 PM

Actually, this is a case of "theatre wins" because our audience (the non-garbed set/first-timers) might not recognize the historically accurate version of the Scot as "Scot". They would, however, recognize someone who looked like they stepped off the sets of Braveheart or Rob Roy. I know this sets the teeth of purists on edge, but we never said we were 100% historically authentic.  ;D Much as this might chafe some, we are entertainment first.
That's a valid point. It [entertainment] is, after all, the reason why most of us became Rennies. If you're going to get too historically accurate, half the parade would be stumbling along without the benefit of glasses! All the lovely pins we use to indicate our "history" with the faires would need to be removed. If we had to be 100% historically accurate, I would have to turn many of you into piglets and rats. :D
Title: Re: Parade question
Post by: Ronald the Bald on May 20, 2010, 11:21:45 PM
"Actually, this is a case of "theatre wins" because our audience (the non-garbed set/first-timers) might not recognize the historically accurate version of the Scot as "Scot". They would, however, recognize someone who looked like they stepped off the sets of Braveheart or Rob Roy. I know this sets the teeth of purists on edge, but we never said we were 100% historically authentic.   Much as this might chafe some, we are entertainment first."

When I do dress as a historically correct for 1533 Scot border reiver the mundanes say "Oh, a conquistador". So, I don't do it often. Besides kilts are fun to wear.