A friend told me that her company is compiling a cookbook of recipes domnted by their employees and proceeds from copies sold will be donated to charity.
I realize we may be too far-flung to organize something like that; but I did wonder what family recipe you would donate to such a project.
Too bad we couldn't do something like that for RESCU. Rennie Recipes helping fellow Rennies. Just a thought.
that's exactly my thought- I donts ee why we COULDNT get something like that together through the forum- I'd definitely buy!
chapters on camping food, period (or peri-oid) food, and maybe even mock ups of favourites from inside faire... I'm in!
I would be willing to donate my services to work on the typeset/layout, if someone wants to work on the graphic design. I have some resources available than most would not... I've a few recipes I've concocted. I do like to cook!
This is a great idea!
I have a few excellent medieval recipes researched and adapted by SCA for 12th night that I can vouch for, if there will be a section for 'period' food.
I love to cook, and since my hubby is allergic to Onions and Milk, I have a few interesting adaptations to traditional recipes that in many cases are better than the traditional versions...
I'd need 3 copies for my house! I have some recipes that work great and I know Seleyna has several recipes she made to bring to faire last year
Huzzah for the idea !!! I would send some recipes and buy a couple or three. I'm all for it.
I've got books on medival feast cooking, and on the progression of wine and spirits dark ages thru ren. I haven't actually had a real reason to try any of it, but I might have to go over it all again.
And there is always stone soup.
Quote from: LadyStitch on August 13, 2010, 02:35:17 PM
Too bad we couldn't do something like that for RESCU. Rennie Recipes helping fellow Rennies. Just a thought.
Somebody with printing and distribution capabilities would have to take up the idea.
Well, depending on how serious any of us really are to sallying forth with such an idea, I have a great working relationship with a printing company that does exceptional work. I don't mind taking point on such a project. If we have any graphic artists in the bunch, I would definitely need one!
To work, this has to be a fun book, good recipes, economically produced...what else? As far as distribution, we could contact some of the faire booksellers to see if any of them are interested in selling them. Perhaps R/F would allow us to work from here. (I don't want to step on anyone's toes with this) Books also qualify for special postage rates.
If all are agreed, it would be for RESCU, there would be no pay, it would take a while to pull off. So...realizing not everyone has the time, who actually wants to do some work to bring this about? What would be your area of expertise?
Thanks to Dona Catalina and Lady Stitch for the inspiration!
I think it sounds like a wonderful idea. I think I only have 1 real recipe that's "mine", which is a homemade dumpling recipe of the ancient family secret variety - everything else i use comes from online or cookbooks that I suspect are copywrited. Of course, I doubt it's period in any way, but if there's anything I can do to help, count me in.
If you need printer options, I have a great one here too Merlin. Good to have a back up just in case. If Rani sticks her nose in here, I believe she does graphics work (or at least dabbles in it, not sure which). I'm sure there are a few others lurking in our midst with this wonderful diverse group we have.
I'm a decent proofreader too if needed.
If you want to make it cheaply and help out graphic art students contact a vocational school that has a graphics program. When I took Graphic arts we did alot of these type of projects, it helped us learn the lay out/design, camera work and also press work. Our vocational college did it for the cost of the paper and maybe a few dollar more if it was a really big project, like over 2000 items. Otherwise it was just for the cost of paper. I wish I could help out with the Graphic Arts portion but for the life of me I can't remember what I was taught over "ahem" years ago, long time anyway, sorry.
I dont think any recipe you find online will neccesarily be subject to copyright, esp as the posted recipe is likely a derivation of something else ANYWAY! (I, for one, never follow a recipe exactly... i just cant...lol)
so, even if it's a recipe you first got off another website, that doesnt mean it cant be changed to something slightly different- might be fun to make the 'mundane' recipes more 'rennie' (my elementary school had a cookbook where the kids all made thier recipes into 'gross' things, dog food, dinosaur bones, etc)
I'll try to put together a list of to-dos—an outline or such—in the next month, meanwhile everyone need to be thinking about what they want to submit. I'll try to come up with a good way of collecting the material and ideas.
Bellevivre suggested chapters on Camping food, and Period food. What other divisions?
I think something that would add some appeal—if you think it's a stupid idea, feel free to shoot it down—is to add some humour in the directions. An example... http://honors.uca.edu/commons/00401/Chili.pdf (http://honors.uca.edu/commons/00401/Chili.pdf) You may not like the humour (or the chili) but consider the concept.
cordial recipes would work, too...
and, even if the 'legend' of the 'original' loki recipe is closely guarded, doesnt mean other recipes might not be shared... (and hey! selling point! "oooooooohhh, it has LOKI recipes!"
also, I will share my monkey bread recipe.
because i love you all that much.
We are, indeed, humbled by your offer, dear Bellevivre
:P
YOUVE never tried it! mmmm... monkeybread!
No, luv, only monkey business ;D
Looking forward to trying it!
I have plenty of camp recipies that i can throw in... ;)
Count me in!
Let me know where to send recipes!
:D
I certainly have several recipes I would be willing to donate, even a couple of period type recreations.
Ok... Here's what I would suggest:
Begin gathering those recipes you wish to contribute to the project. I have some background work to do to prepare for taking the submissions, but the start of semester is next week, so I won't be jumping on it with both feet just yet.
Submissions will need to be in some kind of text form, that is, scans of a recipe (like a fax) won't be much help. I will be able to accept files as MS Word, any word processor file saved as an RTF, email text... even a cut-and-paste into a private message. I will need your email address with the submission (do not post it in the open forum!!), because once I type-set it, I will email a copy back to you to check.
Lady Kett has offered proofing services (¡muchas gracias!)... suggestions have been made to enlist the services of a vocational school, and under normal circumstances, that would be a great idea. But, if we want to maximize our support of RESCU, I think it would be a great idea, if possible, to use the donates services of the R/F community, rather than having to pay anyone. I'm putting a call out for graphic designers here, folks... If no help comes from within, the art department is based in the same building on campus that my department is. I'll hit them up for some freebies and something for their portfolio perhaps.
(Belle, I don't know what you mean by Loki recipes, but if it helps to sell cookbooks....)
Please! Inundate me with ideas! Let's do something good for the folks that have entertained us over the years! Maybe we can get Henry and Anne from Scarby (my home) to do a cover shot... maybe roasting a weenie over a campfire (in costume)... or in an ultra-modern kitchen, cooking together (again in costume)...I still like the idea of keeping it humourous and fun... But, it's not about me. Feedback? (no pun intended)
Actually, a few years back (five, six maybe), we DID try to do a cookbook for RESCU-- I remember, because my sister and I scribbled down three or four recipes to contribute which have been campground staples for years.
I think the plan fell through though, as I never did see a completed version. Perhaps the printing costs were overwhelming, or the persons who were trying to organize it had too much on their plate at the time, I honestly don't know.
I'm thinking, we could go ANTI-BOOK and do a rennie recipe/camp cooking/etc book in DIGITAL format.. it would be a LOT cheaper to produce, and much more likely to actually sell (since a lot of folks like me have no interesting in more books piling up, I love them, but they just take up so much space!). CDs are nice and small, and most folk these days have access to a computer of some type.
I like your thinking, Gwen. On a CD, if someone NEEDED it in print, they can just run a copy off on their printer. The ONLY caveat I see is that it makes it easy for someone to make a copy to give to friends, and RESCU loses.
Let's hear from others...print or electronic?
I'd rather have one in print myself ( easier for me to keep up with. )
That's my two cents.
I sort-of collect cook books so I prefer hard copy ones, but aren't there services where can purchase a small book online and have the online copy, and if you want it printed, pay a small add'l fee for it, and they will print it for you and mail it?
Argh, if I could remember where I thought I saw that, or what it was for....I'll keep wracking my brain on that. I'll ask my printer friend about that too.
Also I liked Merlin's idea of hitting up the various Faire's book sellers to stock a few copies which would mandate a hard copy.
Print is better, 1 for the theft issue you suggested, Merlin, 2 because not everyone has a printer at home, or regularly uses it, 3 people will pay more for a book, and a CD seems maybe a little 'not worth it' (in my opinion, who loves actual, hard books) 4 because a book is more tangible and not liable to get scratched, etc.
Sounds like hardcopy is the prime choice. Making it available in CD format could easily be done parallel at a very small cost, just in case someone wanted one like that. We'll leave that as a maybe, how about.
I've seen what you're talking about, Kett. There are multiple service of that type available.
I'm glad to see that there is at least some interest in this. With any luck, it will blossom into something tangible.
Gwen, we'll get this out. Maybe the first edition will be smaller than we might really want, but if there are enough entries to make it worth while, I'll make the promise that it will get published. If everyone kicks in, everyone will get something back!
I had a thought.. and it hurt!...yuk yuk yuk.
It might make an interesting layout to break it down into faire chapters. Perhaps by tailgates or after faire campground gatherings. "Favorite recipes at MRF tailgate". That sort of thing. I know lots of faires have their own ideas of what makes for the perfect gathering.
I'm willing to put in my grandmother's 'Busy mom home made rolls', my 'Campfire breakfast hash', Great grandma's 'Cafe' style Cocca nut Cream Pie.'
What a wonderful idea.
I have some great recipes I've developed myself but their not really ren style recipes.
I actually created and published my own magazine for 4 years - sold in barnes and noble nationwide and everything.
So I could help with layout and the like.
I agree.......a CD could be copied, then why we are doing this as a group, would be in vain.
Print is much better!
I do not have period recipies, but am willing to send what I have..
ALL OF YOU ARE SO AWSOME! and i for one am so excited to get one of these books and help to raise money for RESCU, THANK YOU ALL!
I can contribute my recipes for Chicken Michiel and Lemon/Rosemary Cornish game hens.
Not ren-related, but I'd be willing to share my grandmother's lasanga recipe and my modified-from-another-recipe guacamole recipe.
Now,
where do we send the recipes?
I think we're holding them until Merlin comes back with more details?
I would love a copy! They would make great holiday gifts, too! I don't have any period recipes to share, but I'd be happy to share what I do have. Another suggestion for a section in the book too, it would be great to share some tailgate recipes/ recipes that travel well for meals &snacks on the road or in the lot :)
Well I would think that if everyone writes their recipes in word and saves them as .rtf files that would be a great way to start.
There should probably be a format for everyone to follow to make things easier.
Like making sure to include all the ingredients and spices, temperatures, etc.
Rather than post an email on here that would get me spammed to Morocco and back, I'd like to set up a process for submitting your files (web programming is what I do for a living), but again...it's semester startup time, and I'm a little pressed for time. For the moment, we'll keep it simple:
If you want to submit via cut-and-paste into a private message, that's fine. If you'd rather send a document, PM me, and I'll give you my email that way, then you can email your document to me. If you PM me, please provide your email eddress so that I can send proofs, when I get to that point. Your email eddresses WILL NOT be made available to anyone else. If you aren't comfy with that—realizing that you don't actually know me—I'll devise another method of getting things back and forth. But let it be known that I deal with sensitive private information daily as part of my work. Now accepting recipes...
I might suggest that you decide whether or not you want your real name to appear in the credits, but I would like to use the name of your persona at the very least. For those that may not want even that, you could be listed as Friend of RESCU.
Once I get enough recipes to start a sorting process, I'll begin grouping and provide a list out here. That may help jog a few braincells.
There are not restrictions on the submission other that probably keeping the ingredients legal. If need be, we can distribute an ABT Brownie recipe in private ;) Federal Marshals note: That was a joke. Dustin: Ren-related is not a prerequisite.
I will go through the posts again later in the week and try to summarize offers of recipes, and of expertise.... Auryn has offered layout help.... As things come up, I'll be asking for everyone's input. We'll see how things go the first couple of weeks, and if we're having problems, we'll adjust. Lady Kett and Auryn, since you've offered proofing and layout services respectively, if you're ok with PMing me your email eddresses, I'll be able to pass things to you as I get them in a workable form.
...and..THEY'RE OFF!
Hey there,
My finacee and I were talking about this last nite-we would be glad to contribute our Camping and Ren recipies.
Our choice would be print.
Crazy
I have a wonderful mostaccoli recipe I would submit if we are not restricting to ren related recipes.
We have set no restrictions. Ren-related may be a section, but in addition to spreading our favourite recipes around, we're going to try to raise some money for a worthy cause.
Think anyone would be interested in a blurb on prolonging the life of your food items? Maybe a "Helpful Hints"-style list of Do's & Dont's? I'm pretty sure I have one around her somewhere that was made up for an energy/efficiency forum a couple years back.
I know I would. Bring it on, Gwen! Good idea.
The lines are open! You may begin sending!
If you have a submission, PM me with your email and I'll send you my email eddress to which to send.
Please do not put your email eddress (or mine) out here on the forum. It's not the R/F community that's a problem, it's outsiders that use these forums for spamming.
If I may make a suggestion? Every really enjoyable cookbook that I own is enjoyable because it is more than just a collection of recipes thrown together. They all have something in common: stories about the food and the people making the food. I would suggest that each person who submits a recipe also submit a story about themselves at faire. It could be something relating to a time that they made / brought that recipe to a faire function, talking about their first time at faire, or just something fun that happened to them at faire.
Obviously there's no guarantee that every story would be used, but I think that it would make the cookbook more interesting to the general public if they knew a little more about the people contributing and just what faire means to the contributors. Not to mention the humanizing factor, because if it is a book to raise money for a charity, you want to connect with the people involved in some way. Otherwise, it's just another recipe collection.
Just my thought.
I've submitted a couple, one was just a family recipe and the other was a multiperson SCA cooking research project for which I included some background. I suspect this will be similar to the Rescu calendars, most people who buy it will do so just because they want to support Rescu.
All suggestions will be considered. Will they all make it through the final cut? Don't know at this point, but when things are in a more "congealed" state, I will be passing this around to those who have volunteered to proof/edit/layout/etc and it will be done according to a broader view than just mine. I'm just acting as the "collector of stuff" (the technical term) for the moment.
Anyone with any actual real experience in putting together cookbooks is more than welcome to chime in and offer services.
Ok... I'm in. I also have a suggestion for anyone submitting recipes for this project. It would be really helpful if you were to make the recipe, and then take a picture of the finished product to send in with your submission. Otherwise someone else will have to set up a test kitchen, spend money to make the recipes that are included, and then photograph them for the book. Recipes and stories are wonderful, and necessary... however, a cookbook with pictures will appeal to people on an entirely different level, and since the major senses are all connected in many ways, a picture can trigger the salivary glands, which can set off a cascade reaction ending in the "buy now" response... ;)
Oh, I almost forgot... LULU.com is a POD (Print On Demand) publisher who will take orders and drop ship, and you can even get items they publish listed on Amazon.com and I believe in Barnes & Noble for order only books. We might ask Blackbead for some info about them, as he has experience with their service.
I'll send in a recipe or two. I agree pictures would be a nice addition. Would that add much to the cost of publishing?
I think it might depend on how many images were used, and how large they were, but if most everyone sends a pic with their submission then they could be narrowed down to the ones that would work best for the book.
I agree with the pictures being necessary.
I personally won't buy a cook book that has no pictures.
It would increase the cost of the printing depending on how its organized.
For example if the picture is right next to each recipe then all the pages would have to be full color.
However we could do an insert in the middle of the book with all the pictures-foot note referencing the location of that particular recipe- and that wouldn't be anywhere near as expensive.
I agree about the humanizing factor- good call on including stories.
Gwen I think that would be brilliant, I would vote for that definitely being in there.
Quote from: Anna Iram on August 22, 2010, 07:24:43 PM
I'll send in a recipe or two. I agree pictures would be a nice addition. Would that add much to the cost of publishing?
Color Photos almost double the cost of publishing. I know this from the catalog our company tried to publish. They cut the color back to just the cover.