With three weeks to go thought it might be time to start getting ideas togeather for the one of my high points of Scarborough. I don't know of another faire that has anything like the History, Customs and Manners lectures at Scarborough.
I really want to go to that this season! I need to check the schedule....!
Is at 1130 each day. At the Hightower square. Near the front gate.
For those of us not in the know, what is it?
Its a half hour interactive lecture where members of the caste in charater talk about different aspects of life in 1533
My wife wants to hear their take on laundry. It seem to be a SCAism that nobles only wore their clothes once or twice because they had no way to clean them.
Quote from: Don_Juan_deCordoba on March 19, 2011, 07:09:18 AM
My wife wants to hear their take on laundry. It seem to be a SCAism that nobles only wore their clothes once or twice because they had no way to clean them.
Sadly enough, I have actually heard this horse-pocky repeated in the SCA and treated like fact. It's one of the main reasons I rarely play anymore.
Noble clothing then (as now) was ruinously expensive. It is well documented that Elizabeth I employed a tribe of laundresses to wash her linens, while her court gowns were cared for and maintained by her ladies; dried mud and dirt was brushed off, and stains were sponged out while sweat smells were aired. Nothing was thrown out unless it was worn out. There are numerous well documented accounts of the queens' gowns being stripped of jewels and gifted to lesser court members, when they were considered out of fashion, slightly worn, or excess to Her Majesty's needs. I imagine your wife will hear something along those lines.
I beleive they did a topic on general cleaning last year talking about bathing, washing etc I'm pretty sure they at least touched on laundry
I'm not sure anyone from HCM is on the boards any more, to be honest. Brittney has retired from SAPA to pursue her interest in Highland Games. (And she's rockin' it, too! Last I knew she was tenth in the country or so in the Women's Division!).
when we progressed to Scarby last year, we thoroughly enjoyed these - well worth the time!!
History, Customs, and Manners
Matthew Duvall HCM Director
Novie Bowden HCM Instructor
Shay Hall HCM Instructor
Leah Haynie HCM Instructor
Paige Mitchell HCM Instructor
Matt Rhodes HCM Instructor
As far as I know, none of these people are on the boards. I am curious to see what they have planned.
Hey all. I just joined the forum so the HCM staff can be in touch you this year. I took the year off from directing HCM, and Matthew stepped up to take over those duties for the cast. However, the show will go on as it has these last few years and I will be heading it up, so please feel free to ask for topics to be covered. We will continue our format of requested topics on Sundays.
I'll put laundry at the top of the list. :)
Bill Teel
Thanks Bill looking forward to the lectures as always. One subject I'd like to cover is industary mining, farming, ranching.
Welcome to the forums, Bill! Looking forward to HCM this year!
Welcome to the forum Bill. Thanks for updating us.
Quote from: KG273 on March 23, 2011, 02:54:51 PM
Hey all. I just joined the forum so the HCM staff can be in touch you this year. I took the year off from directing HCM, and Matthew stepped up to take over those duties for the cast. However, the show will go on as it has these last few years and I will be heading it up, so please feel free to ask for topics to be covered. We will continue our format of requested topics on Sundays.
I'll put laundry at the top of the list. :)
Bill Teel
:D Thanks for voluteering, and not just to keep us informed.
Quote from: KG273 on March 23, 2011, 02:54:51 PM
Hey all. I just joined the forum so the HCM staff can be in touch you this year. I took the year off from directing HCM, and Matthew stepped up to take over those duties for the cast. However, the show will go on as it has these last few years and I will be heading it up, so please feel free to ask for topics to be covered. We will continue our format of requested topics on Sundays.
I just joined as well, so there are multiple HCM points of contact.
Leah H
HCM 2011 Instructor
Welcome, Leah!
Great to have you join us Leah. Look forward to the lectures this season.
Welcome Leah, great to have you with us.
Welcome on board Leah.
Leah, Bill, so great to have you!
Women & Weaponry has been a recent interest of mine. Did women carry knives, dirks, etc? Of what class (the woman or the weaponry)? Any women pirates? Mercenaries?
Curious wench(es) want to know. ;)
(*** note to self: stay the bloody `ell away from Lady Kett ***)
Quote from: Merlin the Elder on April 05, 2011, 03:12:26 PM
(*** note to self: stay the bloody `ell away from Lady Kett ***)
Especially after a bit o drink :)
Quote from: Gauwyn of Bracknell on April 05, 2011, 05:13:55 PM
Quote from: Merlin the Elder on April 05, 2011, 03:12:26 PM
(*** note to self: stay the bloody `ell away from Lady Kett ***)
Especially after a bit o drink :)
That's like...ALWAYS! (She knows I love her ... I've got a black eye from Sidekick to prove it ... of
course I'm joking!)
Quote from: Merlin the Elder on April 05, 2011, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: Gauwyn of Bracknell on April 05, 2011, 05:13:55 PM
Quote from: Merlin the Elder on April 05, 2011, 03:12:26 PM
(*** note to self: stay the bloody `ell away from Lady Kett ***)
Especially after a bit o drink :)
That's like...ALWAYS! (She knows I love her ... I've got a black eye from Sidekick to prove it ... of course I'm joking!)
I got one from the Lady herself !! It is still a bit dis-colored and doesn't work quite right!!
LOL y'all are bad. I love you! :)
Are we there yet?!
Thank you Leah and Bill for taking time out of your day.
Quote from: Lady Kett on April 04, 2011, 09:24:09 PM
Women & Weaponry has been a recent interest of mine. Did women carry knives, dirks, etc? Of what class (the woman or the weaponry)? Any women pirates? Mercenaries?
Hey there Lady Kett!
Are you wanting this answered here, or do you want this included on a violence class?
Thanks!
Leah
SAPA HCM Instructor
Violence class would be most excellent, Leah! HCM is on our daily to-do list!
[Look out Merlin & Gauwyn!]
Quote from: Lady Kett on April 06, 2011, 08:53:47 PM
Violence class would be most excellent, Leah! HCM is on our daily to-do list!
[Look out Merlin & Gauwyn!]
Leah... a class on proper bleeding out of wizards? :-[
For a serious suggestion....LOL
How about something on daily diet peasant vs. noble?
Any info that would be entertaining about the New World circa 1533? Columbus arrived in 1492 so we know Spain was up to their eyebrows in the New World. I'm only a half-arsed history buff but it seems I don't have any info on England and the New World until Elizabeth I arrives and Sir Walter Raleigh creates Virigina.
DID England do any exploration under Henry VIII?
If not, please go to your next regularly scheduled HCM topic! :)
Quote from: Lady Kett on April 07, 2011, 08:13:14 PM
Any info that would be entertaining about the New World circa 1533?
DID England do any exploration under Henry VIII?
John Cabot, a Venetian, went to the New World for England in 1497 and discovered Newfoundland.
In 1527, his son, Sebastian Cabot (not THAT Sebastian Cabot) sailed for Molucca, but never found it.
Saturday, April 9: Welcome, Titles, Forms of Address, and Reverence
Sunday: Day in the Life
Looking forward to seeing everyone!
Saturdays class was great. Y'all do such a great job. I can't what till next weekend. Many thanks to the cast for all there hard work.
I enjoyed the class today! I wish I could take in all the classes in one weekend, since that is all I was here for. But I still feel I learned quite a lot!
DOH! Completely spaced out Saturday and missed it, but made it Sunday! I just love HCM!
/writes on the board/
I will not be late for class. I will not be late for class. I will not be late for class.
:D
Yes! The classes were superb! (Nim and I were on time for both days... we need our gold stars! :P)
Quote from: Lady Kett on April 10, 2011, 09:04:55 PM
DOH! Completely spaced out Saturday and missed it, but made it Sunday! I just love HCM!
/writes on the board/
I will not be late for class. I will not be late for class. I will not be late for class.
:D
At least you didn't miss BOTH days, like I did :(
Totally forgot about it today, but I doubt if my purple fairy would have liked it anyway ;)
I loved this weekend's classes! Anything about daily life and social classes will always catch and reel me in. Very excited to hear next week's lesson!!
Hey folks!
Thanks to those of you that came this past weekend and listened to the lectures!
The subjects for the upcoming weekend are:
Saturday: Running of a Gentry or Noble Household
Sunday: Food and Drink
Looking forward to seeing everyone!
Leah
I look forward to all these lectures.
I have another suggestion. Head coverings.
I have read in several sources that Eleanor of Castile scandalized the French Court when she became Queen because she refused to wear a hood or a veil and her ladies did likewise. She wore her hair braided or in a caul with a man's flat cap.
What head coverings would have been considered proper for men and women of Henry VIII's Court.
M'lady has wondered about forms of communication - peasants and nobility.
Quote from: Gauwyn of Bracknell on April 16, 2011, 10:36:42 AM
M'lady has wondered about forms of communication - peasants and nobility.
Terms of address was covered opening day, so I'm wondering what she is actually asking for?
I am easily confused sometimes. ;D
Quote from: DonaCatalina on April 19, 2011, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: Gauwyn of Bracknell on April 16, 2011, 10:36:42 AM
M'lady has wondered about forms of communication - peasants and nobility.
Terms of address was covered opening day, so I'm wondering what she is actually asking for?
I am easily confused sometimes. ;D
Mostly written or ways to communicate information (not how to address different people).
I apologize for the delay--life happened, like it does.
The head covering suggestion (which amused me because good gracious cover the head, but please feel free to expose your breasts or fornicate in the halls while at the French Court) and the information exchange suggestion have been passed on.
This weekend:
Saturday: Religion!
Sunday: Food and Drink! Yes, really. It was supposed to be last week, but we got sidetracked with laundry.
Leah
Quote from: VIII on April 08, 2011, 10:09:56 AM
Quote from: Lady Kett on April 07, 2011, 08:13:14 PM
Any info that would be entertaining about the New World circa 1533?
DID England do any exploration under Henry VIII?
John Cabot, a Venetian, went to the New World for England in 1497 and discovered Newfoundland.
In 1527, his son, Sebastian Cabot (not THAT Sebastian Cabot) sailed for Molucca, but never found it.
If you google either Cabot, you'll find a lot of info on their various trips to, from and north of the New World. Both of them brought back natives as oddities to show the Kings (Henry VII & VIII). Overall, England relied heavily upon paying the French and Spanish explorers to do the initial work.
Here are a few links to start you off...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Cabot_(explorer)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cabot
http://library.thinkquest.org/J002678F/john_cabot.htm (you'llnote that they call him an English explorer even though he was an Italian ;)
Hope this gives you a start ;)
Me
Quote from: LeahH on April 21, 2011, 08:59:35 PM
I apologize for the delay--life happened, like it does.
The head covering suggestion (which amused me because good gracious cover the head, but please feel free to expose your breasts or fornicate in the halls while at the French Court) and the information exchange suggestion have been passed on.
This weekend:
Saturday: Religion!
Sunday: Food and Drink! Yes, really. It was supposed to be last week, but we got sidetracked with laundry.
Leah
I missed laundry... :( oh well. Looking forward to religion. ;)
Quote from: DonaCatalina on April 22, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
I missed laundry... :( oh well. Looking forward to religion. ;)
That's okay, Doña. Next trip down, I'll bring my wash rock...
Hey Folks!
The upcoming lectures are:
Saturday April 30th Scotland, and Scottish/English relations
Sunday May 1st Sex, love, and the lusty traditions of May
Don't forget to wear flowers in your hair for May Day! It's perfectly appropriate for the menfolk to do it, too. ;)
Leah
I enjoyed Saturday's lecture. I can't wait to see what you come up with for this weekend.
Sunday was awesome too! Agree on the "can't wait" part! <3 HCM
I missed this, this past sunday. I was running around missing lots of things :( I hope to make it to the final weekend and attend this. Next year i'll have to make it to each one :) This year an upcoming vacation has gotten in the way. Any idea what the topics will be for the remaining three weekends?
Hey Folks!
Here are the topics for this upcoming weekend!
Saturday May 14th Dance, music, and revelry: pastimes
Sunday May 15th Women warriors: the martial tradition among renaissance women
See you there!
Leah
I agree with His Grace of Suffolk that hunting might need a lecture all to itself. I know certain birds or prey were restricted by class and by sex. And hunting for peasants was very different than hunting was for the nobility.
But pastimes and games his last weekend did cover a lot of ground.
A whole class on hunting? That's a fantastic idea! I believe we've got an open slot during Memorial Weekend, so I'll pass that on.
This coming weekend:
Saturday May 21st Life at sea
Sunday May 22nd Resources of industry - Farming, mining, and goods of export
Thanks for all of your participation thus far. Two weekends to go!
Leah
drat! i wish i didn't have a wedding saturday. :-\
I think that His Grace of Suffolk mentioned a hunting class for this Saturday. I am determined not to get distracted and make that one.
Saturday May 28th Mallory's Le Morte de Arthur, Chivalry, and the English mind
Sunday May 29th Hunting
Monday May 30th Q & A
See everyone this weekend!
Leah