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Title: Faire in the news
Post by: ladybootlegger on June 20, 2011, 07:03:19 AM
Over the weeked a number of people kept talking about this news article pertaining to our festival. Does anyone know where I can find this article. I have to admit my interest was peaked.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Edmund Howard on June 20, 2011, 08:47:36 AM
CBS Channel 4's Greg Moody did a piece on the Festival:

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/06/18/steals-deals-the-colorado-renaissance-festival/

Channel 4 is a sponsor for the festival.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: ladybootlegger on June 20, 2011, 09:59:37 AM
From my understanding, this article was not that kind...
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Capt Spleen on June 20, 2011, 10:03:01 AM
Seems very generous, from what I saw.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Blushing on June 20, 2011, 03:19:52 PM
I heard the same, but I haven't found anything.  It's possible it was published, just not placed online.  I'll keep looking, and I'd ask your sources where they saw it!
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Capt Spleen on June 20, 2011, 11:55:26 PM
Seems an article from the past  (2-3 years ago) about Dreads, rennies, and hygene has made the news again........

Old news, New antagonist.

You gotta love the internet....... news makes the rounds, like joke emails, from time to time.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: CapnJack on June 21, 2011, 12:14:14 AM
That's annoying.  Especially since they used my picture for that travesty of an article.  But positive news is always a good thing!
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: balletboot on June 21, 2011, 09:09:27 AM
I've never seen this article (the old one) and can't find it.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: ladybootlegger on June 21, 2011, 09:48:05 AM
CapnJack and BalletBoot, you both speak of this article as though you have read/found it. I have inquired with the numerous sources I heard it from on Saturday, but have yet to find the article. Would you be kind enough to enlighten the rest of us?
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: balletboot on June 21, 2011, 09:49:08 AM
I said I've never seen the old article (or apparently the new one), so I'm curious as well. I've never even heard of it.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: ladybootlegger on June 21, 2011, 09:57:28 AM
The old one was in the Rocky Mountain News 3 or so years ago. I (personally) thought it was more slanderous to the traveling rennies than anything else. But from what I've heard of this recent article it was far more hurtful to the festival in general... naming names and the whole bit.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: LadyAriella on June 21, 2011, 02:22:36 PM
Here's the article you were looking for, I found it last night when I was wandering about the 'net looking for photos of myself and friends: http://www.csindy.com/colorado/medieval-duel/Content?oid=1143515

I would avoid the comments. Most of the writers appear to be jerks.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Radu the Gypsy on June 21, 2011, 02:59:19 PM
So many things that could be said, but I suspect the same thoughts are echoing in everyone heads.  As an ex-journalist, this piece makes me shudder. 

Oh, but Hey, Michael, nice photo! 
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Adriana Rose on June 21, 2011, 05:08:40 PM
Look at the date folks it was written in 2008
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: LadyAriella on June 21, 2011, 05:44:30 PM
Yes, and it's making its rounds again. Most of the comments are from the last few days.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Adriana Rose on June 21, 2011, 07:06:41 PM
oh haha helps if I read past the article
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: ladybootlegger on June 21, 2011, 07:57:02 PM
Apparently there is another article... a newer article. One that explains specifically why certain acts are no longer part of our festival.

I will have to investigate this further. If I ever find it, I will let you all know.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Norfolk on June 21, 2011, 10:19:35 PM
Quote from: ladybootlegger on June 21, 2011, 07:57:02 PM
Apparently there is another article... a newer article. One that explains specifically why certain acts are no longer part of our festival.

I will have to investigate this further. If I ever find it, I will let you all know.


Atta girl!
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Celtic Rune Stones on June 22, 2011, 08:39:58 AM
Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves...

The authors intent was obvious - poison the well and force the peasantry to locate elsewhere. As is with most hateful articles in print, they have the reverse effect - people who did not know about the Larkspur hippies & gypsies now know when and where to find them...

The article was written in 2008, giving it three years to work its message into the masses; which, as I noticed the first two weeks of this years Faire has failed miserably in its attempt to dissuade travelers from journeying to our shire.

The rennies still gather in the village square, the shopkeepers still hawk their wares, and the mundane still pay admittance; all apparently obvious the article was ever penned.

I for one found the article quite useful - in these woeful economic times I am now able to use money I would have spent for toilet paper to purchase a ticket for next weeks faire...

;D
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Zoë on June 22, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: Celtic Rune Stones on June 22, 2011, 08:39:58 AM

I for one found the article quite useful - in these woeful economic times I am now able to use money I would have spent for toilet paper to purchase a ticket for next weeks faire...


Oh, huzzah!
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Blushing on June 22, 2011, 02:16:44 PM
A MUCH happier, friendly article was also written in 2008, but I am biased, since it is mine:
http://www.gazette.com/articles/good-38157-festival-see.html (http://www.gazette.com/articles/good-38157-festival-see.html)
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Celtic Rune Stones on June 22, 2011, 06:44:11 PM
Quote from: Blushing on June 22, 2011, 02:16:44 PM
A MUCH happier, friendly article was also written in 2008, but I am biased, since it is mine:
http://www.gazette.com/articles/good-38157-festival-see.html (http://www.gazette.com/articles/good-38157-festival-see.html)

A much more pleasant read...

Nicely done!
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: ladybootlegger on June 23, 2011, 07:23:25 AM
Quote from: Blushing on June 22, 2011, 02:16:44 PM
A MUCH happier, friendly article was also written in 2008, but I am biased, since it is mine:
http://www.gazette.com/articles/good-38157-festival-see.html (http://www.gazette.com/articles/good-38157-festival-see.html)

I figured that had to be yours. Well done!
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Duchess Marguerite on June 24, 2011, 12:13:13 AM
Quote from: Blushing on June 22, 2011, 02:16:44 PM
A MUCH happier, friendly article was also written in 2008, but I am biased, since it is mine:
http://www.gazette.com/articles/good-38157-festival-see.html (http://www.gazette.com/articles/good-38157-festival-see.html)
Indeed M'Lady.....a much happier & friendly article.  Not to mention the fact that it's an excellent article that would make anyone who has not attended a Renaissance Festival jump at the chance to buy tickets for the next faire.  Since I am not biased, I can say with absolute certainty that your article was far superior to that other piece of "media hype".  Huzzah Blushing, Huzzah!!!
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: ladybootlegger on June 26, 2011, 05:08:10 PM
Article update:

The article I kept hearing so much about was in the Colorado Springs Independent, printed June 7th. However, it has been pulled from the internet.

Apparently this article was written based on interviews of "paytrons." It did not paint the festival experience in kind lighting. An employee of the festival had printed out the article and brought it to the attention of Paradise... after that the article was removed from the internet. So, if anyone can get their hands on the June 7th issue of the Colorado Springs Independent, I'm sure that many of us would be intruiged to read a copy of the article.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Francisco Paula on June 26, 2011, 06:06:22 PM
okay doing a google search i get the archives for the colorado independant with posts for an article for the renfaire but they are new posts commenting on the old article from 08. There is no archived comments on any other article on the renfaire but this old one, i think it was just people finding the old one once again
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: CapnJack on June 27, 2011, 07:50:06 PM
Quote from: ladybootlegger on June 26, 2011, 05:08:10 PM
Article update:

The article I kept hearing so much about was in the Colorado Springs Independent, printed June 7th. However, it has been pulled from the internet.

Apparently this article was written based on interviews of "paytrons." It did not paint the festival experience in kind lighting. An employee of the festival had printed out the article and brought it to the attention of Paradise... after that the article was removed from the internet. So, if anyone can get their hands on the June 7th issue of the Colorado Springs Independent, I'm sure that many of us would be intruiged to read a copy of the article.

This is very interesting, thanks for the info.  I'd be EXTREMELY interested in reading this article, if only to know what is being said by the trolls out there so I might best counter it.  Does anyone have any idea where one might find it?  Anyone got a hard copy of the paper from that day?

As for the '08 article, yeah, trash.  Part of the problem is that there are hints of truth here and there, which make the lies easier to swallow.  But ultimately this is the worst kind of subjective journalism, not written to relate the facts, but rather to push one person's opinion, leaving out all traces of opposing viewpoints.  Once again, I just really wish they'd take my blasted picture off it.  I'd very much not like to be associated with that kind of libel.

That being said, anyone want to frame a response to this recent comment for me?  I feel I can't really do it myself, for various reasons.


QuoteRumor has it that 90% of the street cast are newbies, and that the Captain Jack from the past 2 years is being replaced by the one they had prior, as seen by the above photo. This Jack seems he is only in it for the glory and not very kid friendly or family friendly for the patrons of the faire. Why do they even have Captain Jack Sparrow anyway?? Isn't that a copyright infringement? And why aren't Charming and Dashing coming back this year?



There is more to this comment that I haven't posted here, and which makes me roll my eyes, because if this person bothered to actually ASK anyone they might have gotten answers to a lot of the ill-informed questions they're posing.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Zoë on June 28, 2011, 12:12:56 AM
How about "stop being an idiot."

Is that an okay response? Or too cynical?  ::)
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: LadyAriella on June 28, 2011, 12:25:22 AM
Quote from: CapnJack on June 27, 2011, 07:50:06 PM

That being said, anyone want to frame a response to this recent comment for me?  I feel I can't really do it myself, for various reasons.


I would say your response should be: *silence*. Don't dignify it with a response. I actually started typing a response to defend you, and then I realized that would be feeding the trolls, and why bother? We know you're a fantastic Jack, you know it, the gazillions of people who stop you every six feet for a photograph know it, and that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: ladybootlegger on June 28, 2011, 07:03:45 AM
I too am rather curious to read the article. I'm sure that a library in Colorado Springs would have a hard copy of the paper. If any of you live near there, perhaps you could make a copy of the article.

What I want to know is... what did our friendly little festival ever do to attract such venom from this specific newspaper?! Why do they feel the need to slander our faire every couple of years?! I'd be especially curious to see if the article was written by the same journalist.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Celtic Rune Stones on June 28, 2011, 08:02:00 AM
Quote from: CapnJack on June 27, 2011, 07:50:06 PM

That being said, anyone want to frame a response to this recent comment for me?  I feel I can't really do it myself, for various reasons.

Captain, it is hard to frame a response without lowering oneself to their level. Unfortunately one can not choose to remain silent in the hopes their ill wind will blow over our shire never to return. Having said that...

Why do we need a Captain Jack... yada yada yada... copyright... yada yada yada... blah blah blah...

Because through the exploits of Captain Jack Sparrow our children now have a portal to the past, and a desire to learn about the real pirates of the Caribbean. Because of Captain Jack history class is now cool again.

And, more importantly - through Captain Jack our children have learned:

    a) That the code is more of a guideline than an actual set of rules.
    b) Parlay means, like it or not, you have to listen to the other side of the story.
    c) To be a good pirate you must keep to the code.

Here's to Captain Jack Sparrow, and all that act in his name - Huzzah!

 
My other choice was to quote from another actor who in my day became a figure every want-a-be trekkie tried their best to emulate: "If I were human, my response would be "Go To Hell..." If I were human" It is as appropriate in the 17th century as it will be in the 24th century.  

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Captain, this, among other positive aspects of the faire, is something I intend to speak to in my interview with CNN

:o
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Zoë on June 28, 2011, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: ladybootlegger on June 28, 2011, 07:03:45 AM


What I want to know is... what did our friendly little festival ever do to attract such venom from this specific newspaper?! Why do they feel the need to slander our faire every couple of years?! I'd be especially curious to see if the article was written by the same journalist.

Because "everyone" loves a good rag. People love seeing other people, organizations, whatever, being brought down because it's then nice to be able to watch from the "righteous pedestal." I guarantee that no matter what that article said, it's not going to deter people from coming to faire.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: CapnJack on July 29, 2011, 03:41:44 PM
Soooooo... not to practice thread necromancy... but I finally did write a scathing reply to that article asking them to take my picture down and addressing that one individual's comment that was so negative towards me.  Feel free to check it out and let me know if I went too far, heh.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Celtic Rune Stones on July 29, 2011, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: CapnJack on July 29, 2011, 03:41:44 PM
Soooooo... not to practice thread necromancy... but I finally did write a scathing reply to that article asking them to take my picture down and addressing that one individual's comment that was so negative towards me.  Feel free to check it out and let me know if I went too far, heh.

Link to the story, please...
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: CapnJack on July 29, 2011, 04:24:56 PM
Huh... thought it was in this thread somewhere, but I guess not.  Anyway, here it is:
http://www.csindy.com/colorado/medieval-duel/Content?oid=1143515
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: LadyAriella on August 01, 2011, 09:52:54 AM
I think you should have ignored them but that was a bloody fine response. I enjoyed it, well done
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: CapnJack on August 01, 2011, 03:50:59 PM
Yeah, you're probably right, but I have a big mouth, heh.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Bahlien on August 02, 2011, 11:30:35 PM
So I stumbled across this...

http://yourhub.denverpost.com/def-section/colorado-renaissance-festival-buoys-town-larkspur/rUu5VTAHl7qoNuvlTad04O-story


Let you all read for yourselves.
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: ladybootlegger on August 03, 2011, 10:19:33 AM
What a lovely article, it's about time! Thank you Bahlien for sharing!
Title: Re: Faire in the news
Post by: Zoë on August 04, 2011, 12:06:26 AM
What a great picture/story as well!