So, I had one of those "earth changing event" dreams, not end of world, just earth changing. I think part of the dream may have stemmed from a book I'm reading right now (I'll add the title here later) in which an event happens and it knocks out everyone around the world and when they all come to nothing works...no power, guns, cars don't run, even fire doesn't burn as hot. Good book, but I'm straying from the post that I was making...
If an earth changing event does happen what would you do? Where would you go? What would you save? Would you "borrow" anything?
Some of the TX crew and I were chatting about this the other day in the Chat rooms. For me...while TRF might have a better wall in some areas surrounding the actual faire grounds there are some rather big holes in it. Plus it's still to close to the coast if there's a tsunami in my mind. But Sherwood has a cedar plank high wal around it and it wouldn't be very hard to shore it up. So our game plan is to pack all the clothes and food that we can into the car along with my cast iron and the camping stuff. And in the hubby's truck load the cab with the bedding and go to the soil place by my house. Why the soil place, you may be asking, but hear me out. Fraser & Nasty, will be hitting the Academy warehouse load a semi down with guns, ammo, hunting bows and arrows, and camping gear and what ever else they can fit. Riot will be grabbing seeds...ahhhh....yes that's where the soil comes in. In addition to the soil I'll be grabbing as may survival guides and local herb guides and history books as I can. Then I'd head up to sherwood faire to start defending it.
Wait, isn't this a new series on National Geographic Channel? ;)
It would be the mother of all tsunamis to be able to take out TRF, and if TRF was to be destroyed by a tsunami, the cataclysm that precipitated it would basically render retreat to Sherwood ineffective. So, to make you feel better, you'd be okay to go to TRF.
If you were to ask which I would choose to defend, I would pick Sherwood. Sherwood would a little closer to a major population area from which to scavenge, and that area would stand little chance of being destroyed by a tsunami. Houston, on the other hand, might not have such good fortune, at least the southern and eastern sections.
Sherwood's surrounding areas would offer more cleared land for farming than would TRF. Scarborough may offer the best of all situations, including pretty good visibility in all directions.
Real world I dont see any as defenseable. Lets not forget this is all fantasy. ;D
Quote from: angusmacinnes on February 23, 2012, 03:35:45 PM
Real world I dont see any as defenseable. Lets not forget this is all fantasy. ;D
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Mega-tsunami... 600-1500' tall with a wave length of several miles. Most of Houston would end up under water and/or washed back out to sea... along with 25 millon from the east coast.
LNG ship touched off in the middle of the Ship Channel... equal it to a 5-10 kiloton Tactical nuke... every major refinery GONE, with all the nasty chemicals housed there in scattered across 2/3 of Harris county. There is one chem that is found in campho phenique, that a single drop can kill... they store it by the thousands of gallons in one refinery.
Dirty bomb... comet...zombies(which with Nanotech could be possible) living or dead... economic collapse... race war... any of these could lead to a TEOTWAWKI event.
TRF would be "fairely" safe... Sherwood much better.
Y'all need to smell what's on the wind...
Don't worry. 24 hours before the disaster, Katy would have evacuated.
Well, if it does go to Hell in a handbasket on 12/21... at least i would've had one last time at TRF... ;)
Aye Baron and a fine time we will make of it.
In case of a cataclysmic event, whether man-made, or natural, I'd prefer to be taken out early. While the Little Rock Air Force Base was a S.A.C. base, rumour had it that it was #2 on the list of targets by the Russians (if you buy into all that cold-war crap), with Omaha being #1. I told Nim that if ever we were notified of an enemy launch, that I would immediately drive toward the base. This planet is mad enough as it is. I can't imagine how bad things would be in a post-apocalyptic setting, and I wouldn't want to be there.
Sounds like someone has started reading "Dies the Fire" by S. M. Stirling a series I encourge anyone who likes end of the world fantasy/science fiction to read its the best in a long long time. One thing to remember is that its lack of water not food that would kill most people and I don't think TRF or Sherwood has a natural water source Scraborogh does most years with the little creek that runs behind it. But being close to the DFW area would be a problem, DFW area with its high population would make a large death zone.
I'm on the other side Merlin its always easy to say enough is enough but while you are still alive you still have choices and chances.
Although I understand perfectly how you feel Merlin I want to stick around and see what comes next. Just sayin' But living where I do I suppose a nuke will get popped a mile high and take us out in the beginning.
I know what you're both saying, Sir Richard and Angus, and I totally respect your wish to survive. It's just that from my perspective, I don't want to survive it. I guess I've just seen more than I wanted to see in my lifetime.
Okie dokie hey how about those Rangers?
You really think they can defend it?
DA Bearz!
;D
Quote from: SirRichardBear on February 23, 2012, 04:04:43 PM
Sounds like someone has started reading "Dies the Fire" by S. M. Stirling a series I encourge anyone who likes end of the world fantasy/science fiction to read its the best in a long long time. One thing to remember is that its lack of water not food that would kill most people and I don't think TRF or Sherwood has a natural water source Scraborogh does most years with the little creek that runs behind it. But being close to the DFW area would be a problem, DFW area with its high population would make a large death zone.
I'm on the other side Merlin its always easy to say enough is enough but while you are still alive you still have choices and chances.
No, Sir... never have. I like SciFi/fantasy but I'm talking about real life. You're ex-military... you don't smell something coming? I've had that creepy crawly feeling, like just before an ambush, for the last two years. Our civilization is VERY fragile... kill the power for a month, stop food shipments, take away everyones tech and let's see how long it takes before people start looking at their neighbor like they are a T-bone with tennis shoes. I pray daily that I'm wrong... if i never have to fire my weapons in anger and be forced to take another man's life, again, I'll count myself as lucky. I'll be able to give my grandson my guns, 30-40 years from now, and have him treat them as family heirlooms.
Quote from: Laird Fraser of Lovatt on February 23, 2012, 04:47:34 PM
Quote from: SirRichardBear on February 23, 2012, 04:04:43 PM
Sounds like someone has started reading "Dies the Fire" by S. M. Stirling a series I encourge anyone who likes end of the world fantasy/science fiction to read its the best in a long long time. One thing to remember is that its lack of water not food that would kill most people and I don't think TRF or Sherwood has a natural water source Scraborogh does most years with the little creek that runs behind it. But being close to the DFW area would be a problem, DFW area with its high population would make a large death zone.
I'm on the other side Merlin its always easy to say enough is enough but while you are still alive you still have choices and chances.
No, Sir... never have. I like SciFi/fantasy but I'm talking about real life. You're ex-military... you don't smell something coming? I've had that creepy crawly feeling, like just before an ambush, for the last two years. Our civilization is VERY fragile... kill the power for a month, stop food shipments, take away everyones tech and let's see how long it takes before people start looking at their neighbor like they are a T-bone with tennis shoes. I pray daily that I'm wrong... if i never have to fire my weapons in anger and be forced to take another man's life, again, I'll count myself as lucky. I'll be able to give my grandson my guns, 30-40 years from now, and have him treat them as family heirlooms.
Truth. Three days no food, theft will be common. 10 days no food, things get ugly fast.
Quote from: Merlin the Elder on February 23, 2012, 04:17:15 PM
I know what you're both saying, Sir Richard and Angus, and I totally respect your wish to survive. It's just that from my perspective, I don't want to survive it. I guess I've just seen more than I wanted to see in my lifetime.
I understand you postion Merlin and respect it I'm just on the other end, I like choice. Even seen Me and the Colonel? I'm like S.L. Jacobowsky always looking for at least two choices.
Quote from: Laird Fraser of Lovatt on February 23, 2012, 04:47:34 PM
[No, Sir... never have. I like SciFi/fantasy but I'm talking about real life. You're ex-military... you don't smell something coming?
Sorry Laird Fraser I was posting that I thought LadyJessica had started the series since that is the plot of the series all energy above human/wind/water stops and one of the group of survivors with skills need to survive were renies another SCA members.
Ask me tomorrow sometimes I think we are on the cusp and getting ready for a new dark age others times I think we're just in a resting period and everything will be fine and better than fine. I'm not sure just how much faith I have in humans any more.
Sorry...I apologize for leading this into something darker than intended.
I'd much rather humankind would get their act together than have to worry about Armageddon. :-\
Not a problem lad. We go where things lead us. After all most are like cattle you just have to point their head in the right direction. LMAO
Quote from: SirRichardBear on February 23, 2012, 04:04:43 PM
Sounds like someone has started reading "Dies the Fire" by S. M. Stirling a series I encourge anyone who likes end of the world fantasy/science fiction to read its the best in a long long time. One thing to remember is that its lack of water not food that would kill most people and I don't think TRF or Sherwood has a natural water source Scraborogh does most years with the little creek that runs behind it. But being close to the DFW area would be a problem, DFW area with its high population would make a large death zone.
I'm on the other side Merlin its always easy to say enough is enough but while you are still alive you still have choices and chances.
You are correct! I have the first book and I think the third, gonna have to fine the second book and start over again, but great series from what I can tell.
You got guns, bedding, seeds and soil...but the most important survival tool is missing. Who's bringing the loki fixin's?
Quote from: Anna Iram on February 23, 2012, 08:47:37 PM
You got guns, bedding, seeds and soil...but the most important survival tool is missing. Who's bringing the loki fixin's?
Somebody mentioned potatoes - who's got the recipe for vodka handy?
Not sure if we have any hops in Texas, but muscadine(sic?) grapes should come back and we could do a ferment in the clean tub of a washing machine. Grandpa did that once – result goes to vinegar before too long, but that would be fine, too, except what gets drunk up first.
I wouldn't see any as being defensible in any long run disaster. TRF has far to many holes to slip through. Sherwood has a better fence but the lack of a long term water supply would make it unfeasible for any but a short term. Scarborough is nothing BUT holes in it's defense.
My survival plan, hit as many stores for as many survival items (Jess had the list down pretty well there) as I can and head into the hills with my Lovely Lady. Two can hide very easily.
As for the Tsunami. There is patchy evidence in the panhandle of sand deposited when the big rock took out the Dinos. A wave that large would also be traveling at close to the speed of sound. You'd never know what hit you.
I am surrounded by 3 military bases. I would have to say that Military City would kinda be a target... so I have little chance in the event of a major power attack.
*I think my more likely plan would be to drink my entire rum supply so I wouldn't feel anything. .*
Yeah it is a straight shot down IH 35 from DFW to Austin To San Antonio. So we really stand no chance. LOL ;D
Ehh! the hell with it..... if the end's coming, I'm just going to party like there's no tomorrow... In fact.... 8)
Who's bringing the toilet paper? :D
I subscribe to a "prepper" group on facebook, and there are all sorts of skills and knowledge that will be important in this sort of scenario... and I've been gathering as many as I possibly can... and those I can't, or don't have time to learn, I'm gathering into a library, both hard copy and digital, since batteries will be around for a while.
Speaking of batteries... another important thing to stock. Perhaps not for immediate survival, but for small, short term power sources and trade, because the power of a light in the darkness is mighty, and people will eventually be willing to trade for that small comfort.
Quote from: SirRichardBear on February 23, 2012, 05:09:13 PM
Quote from: Laird Fraser of Lovatt on February 23, 2012, 04:47:34 PM
[No, Sir... never have. I like SciFi/fantasy but I'm talking about real life. You're ex-military... you don't smell something coming?
Sorry Laird Fraser I was posting that I thought LadyJessica had started the series since that is the plot of the series all energy above human/wind/water stops and one of the group of survivors with skills need to survive were renies another SCA members.
Ask me tomorrow sometimes I think we are on the cusp and getting ready for a new dark age others times I think we're just in a resting period and everything will be fine and better than fine. I'm not sure just how much faith I have in humans any more.
LOL... i understand, my friend! I get a bit wound up when talking about this subject... my wife thinks I'm a wee bit loose upstairs. ;) I get "The Look" whenever i come home with a new weapon or a bag of ammo. My faith, in my fellow man, requires i keep most at swords length and a sharp eye to their hands...
Sad times in this country. :(
Yea I get that from folks too of course most all ready think I'm a bit off what with wearing a kilt going to renfaires, studying swordfighting and other martial arts, and that natgeo show hasn't helped any. Of coures I'm still trying to figure out when doing what was common and normal for our parents and grandparents aka canning food, keeping a couple of months of food in the storage, having back up lighting, and heat etc starting meaning you are a bit of instead of normal. I guess about the same time saving and waiting till you could afford something before buying it went out of fashion. Better get off my soap box before I get in trouble.
I'm with you SirRichardBear, I really do want to start canning foods and and start making my own jelly. I still to wash my pastic baggies and foil and reuse them, if my hubby doesn't throw them out, picked up that from my grandmother.
Not bad ideas... just everyone should know at least three different ways to make fire...
*WITHOUT LIGHTERS OR MATCHES*
Quote from: Laird Fraser of Lovatt on February 24, 2012, 04:39:40 PM
Not bad ideas... just everyone should know at least three different ways to make fire...
*WITHOUT LIGHTERS OR MATCHES*
Here are a few more than three, if anyone is interested. Some of them even sound kinda fun!
Not that I go around, y'know... lighting fires for fun... or, uhhh, anything. :o ;D