Since all these other series?..serieses?...seri? keep coming up, anyone else a fan of The Dresden Files novels? I first read "Storm Front" in the mid-90's or so, forgot about it, and then re-discovered the series in '06 or so. Since then, I've devoured the series from "Storm Front" to "Small Favor" but never saw much of the TV series as we don't get the Sci-Fi channel way up here on my tiny Island.
"My name is Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden.
Conjure by it at your own risk."
;) ;D :P
YES.
A friend of mine got me sucked into it a few years ago and I've been reading the novels ever since. I even bought the tv series on dvd, though I still wish it'd been a bit closer to its "canon". (okay, mostly I wish Thomas had been in it. Hah!)
From what I saw, NOTHING about the TV show seemed to "jive" with what I had in my head. No duster for Harry, Bob the Skull becoming some.....FOP! Dark-haired-and-eyed Karrin, the fact that Harry never seemed to leave his...Magic Shop (!!??) or was that supposed to be his house?? Even the actor playing Harry didn't seem right. I check the Jim Butcher message board off and on and it seems the TV show was a hit with that crowd. Guess I'm just too picky. ::)
I dunno...I only caught an ep or 2 so maybe it was better than it seemed.
As for the books...I just finished "Small Favor" and now I'm stuck waiting EIGHT MONTHS until "Turn Coat" comes out. Demmit! Why can't they write faster!!?? :P
I didn't mind Bob as a not-skull, actually, though I would've liked to see Bob as Bob in the books, too. I also really did like the actor who played Harry. Murphy was weird, but okay with me because short, blonde Murphy always reminds me of short, blonde cop chick from Angel and that always bugs me.
But then, my first major fandom was Highlander where you just have to assume that each iteration of it is its own canon. That's how I look at the books vs. the tv show. Based off the same idea (Chicago's only wizard detective), but not quite the same implementation. If you look at it as something that stands on its own, it's not bad.
Hee. Have you seen the cover for Turn Coat yet?
Quote from: analise on August 10, 2008, 04:10:20 PM
Hee. Have you seen the cover for Turn Coat yet?
I did and I have to wonder if the sword he's carrying on the cover is just a sword or one of The Swords?
Could be a Warden sword! (finally)
LOL...I'm not sure if the Council is ready for a full-blown Warden Harry Dresden!!
I don't think the Council's ready for full blown anything Harry Dresden.
Stuff tends to explode around him. ;)
True...but it's not always his fault. ::)
So, d'ya think Karrin will pick up one of The Swords?
And I thought for SURE Harry would find a way to bend Laschiel to his will. I was kinda bummed when she got "killed off".
Dunno if you know, but JB is planning 20 Dresden Files novels and then a trilogy to wrap the whole thing up. Probably covering the showdown between the White Council and the mysterious "Black Council". My prediction is (If he doesn't die, that is) that the showdown will leave the White Council next to non-existent and Harry and Co. will have to recruit, train, etc. Basically, I see Harry being the most experienced wizard left alive and he'll have to take over the Council.
Anywho...them's my thoughts.
I think Murphy just might. I mean...she's so about to get fired from the cop gig anyway. And someone has to or there's only one able-bodied Knight to do the job (but I do adore Sanya something fierce).
Hah. I don't think she's gone. Nobody's ever gone in this series. Though a friend and I joke that after everything Harry's been through, if Justin were to pop back up, Harry'll be like, "you're not scary anymore and I can squash you like a bug, go awaaaay."
You know, unless Justin is Cowl. Which is one of my favorite theories.
And yeah, I know about the 20 books + Apocalyptic trilogy thing. :) Which is great, except for the part that at his rate of churning out books, that means at least another decade of waiting for this to be finished. Oy.
Justin as Cowl?? now THAT would be pretty cool...
Harry has a tendancy to really pull out the power moves when he's P.O'd and I think a face to face with Justin might just cause him to bring down the sun!!
Yea...the slow progression of the series does suck but JB's really moving towards something HUGE. I'm thinkin' Harry's gonna one SERIOUS force of nature by the time we get to the trilogy
People keep arguing that JB has said Justin is dead.
Well you know what? Elaine was "dead" too! So was Cowl! Technically, one could argue that for Maggie (his mother) but she even managed to pop up in the soul gaze with Thomas. And then there was his dad popping up as a dream!ghostguy. Hah, and we thought Susan died (or was as good as dead) until we found out she'd just been half-vamped.
You get the idea.
:)
Heck, I finished Small Favor and was just like, "OMG, that felt like a climax right there! Where the hell is JB going to take it NOW?"
LOL have you noticed we seem to have this thread all to ourselves? :P
I love the fact that JB isn't afraid to hurt/maim/kill ANY of his characters....it makes you feel more strongly towards them if you know they could die off...case in point? I honestly thought Michael bit it at the end of SF. Even with his "connections" I doubt he'll be wielding his Sword any time soon, if at all.
And OH! MY! GOD!! is the Archive (Ivy) a badass or WHAT!!??
I'm still not sure what I think of Kincaid, but my theory is he'll turn out to be Death (as in the Grim Reaper).
Oh and totally diggin' the Soulfire as a replacement for the Hellfire he lost when he lost Laschiel.
hahah, I was just thinking: "are we REALLY the ONLY Dresden fans here? UNTAPPED MARKET!" I'm going to have to pimp the books to everybody at MDRF this year. LOL
Yes. Very much so. It gets old when you go, "oh, that's a [main] [well-loved] character, they wouldn't dare do anything to that character" and then JIM DOES IT. Hell, I'm not even sure Harry will survive the series.
Or Thomas. (Who is, if you can't tell, my favorite character. I roleplay him too. *facepalm*)
And yes, Ivy is mucho badass. I can't wait to see what JB does with/to her. Kincaid as Death? I kinda like him just for the (mostly) amoral mercenary assassin who can kill you before you ever think about it coming. With the whole Hellhound thing going on, of course.
Soulfire actually doesn't really do it for me. All these people on the JB.com forums are talking about how awesome it is and I just keep thinking, "psh *yawn* it's the typical powerup/levelup thing. Bad guys getting stronger so Harry has to get stronger. Bleh." Don't know why, but I don't really like that particular development.
I've been curious about the Dresden RPG. How is it?
Yea, my Kincaid/Death thing got shot down on the Jim-Butcher.com as well! Oh well, it's just my opinion :P
See, I'm just the opposite....I LOVE my good guys being uber-badass. I was rootin' for Harry to take on Laschiel! And I'm guessing he'll have to be Super Wizard for the final showdown. There seems to be some pretty heavy hitters involved there. Cowl/Justin, the Denarians, possibly members of the Fae Court, any number of Black, Red, or White Court vamps, etc
I can't help but like Thomas, I'm a vampire geek (without dressing in black, wearing eye liner or owning a single set of fake teeth). Although, I do tend to avoid the "Euro-Trash, androgynous" types made popular by Anne Rice and Laurel K Hamilton. Occasionally, Thomas almost slips into that but manages to avoid the worst of it. ;D
Bob and Toot-Toot are 2 of my faves ("All Hail the Za Lord" just kills me!!)
I love the way he portrays the Fae and I durn near had tears in my eyes during the Elder Gruff/Donut thing near the end of SF!!!
Oh, I'm not playing the Dresden RPG. I'm playing http://raith-wraith.livejournal.com in a very very free-form set up with a few people.
I think Thomas slips into it intentionally. He seems to do a lot of things to stereotype in a very tongue-in-cheek sort of way. Buffy t-shirt? :D
Toot-Toot freaking rocks! :D
I also kind of like Maeve. In a way. Except not like...buddy way. Just...she's cool.
About the soul fire thing that was kinda a gift from an angel if u rememeber an not one that u want to owe if i rememeber correctly.
your not the only fans just ive been workn'
Hellfire was a gift from Laschiel when he still had her shadow in his head. Soulfire just sorta "popped up" during his fight with Thorned Namshiel in Small Favor.
Actually, they're right. Soulfire came from the archangel Uriel meddling in Harry's life.
Another reason I don't care for it. It's just something from the other end of the spectrum and not something Harry gets real control over. Urlel could take it away if/when he thinks he doesn't need to give Harry access to it anymore.
I stand corrected...I re-read the end of SF and had forgotten JB explained it. My bad! ::)
I like to think Harry's getting all this..."stuff" cuz he's been chosen to handle the oncoming war, not because he's meant to keep any of it, but because he's sort of picked as the Champion...or whatever.
I also like that the books aren't overly "Good vs Evil" but more of a "Lesser of two evils" kinda thing.
you guys gonna get the graphic novel the coming out with. Its called welcome to the jungle
Quote from: Scribe_Wear on August 12, 2008, 12:35:51 PM
you guys gonna get the graphic novel the coming out with. Its called welcome to the jungle
**goes into FanBoy mode**
Oooooo!!! A Graphic Novel?? I didn't know there was one coming out!!! :o
Quote from: maelstrom0370 on August 12, 2008, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: Scribe_Wear on August 12, 2008, 12:35:51 PM
you guys gonna get the graphic novel the coming out with. Its called welcome to the jungle
**goes into FanBoy mode**
Oooooo!!! A Graphic Novel?? I didn't know there was one coming out!!! :o
Yep. It's already coming out in separate issues of comics but there'll be a full book of them when its done. There's also a novelette from Thomas' pov coming out this fall (http://www.subterraneanpress.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=butcher&Category_Code=B&Product_Count=26) called Backup. I've already got it pre-ordered. Hee.
yea i keep forgeting about Backup
and then there was 4....
I am a bit behind in my reading, last book I finished was Dead Beat.
The Series was ok I have only caught partial episodes due to my lack of Sci Fi channel.
Welcome to the thread, Tia! :D
Unfortunately, there's not much action here between books. :(
I just finished Feist's "Conclave of Shadows" series and am looking forward to a trip downstate to load up on any of the other series I read. (there's no real bookstore up here so I hit Barnes and Noble whenever I'm downstate)
No worries, I'll keep my self preocupied...I have been catching up on Harry's antics Via LuLu TV on Myyearbook.com
So.....
Just finished "Turn Coat" and I must say, I think it's my fave of the series so far!
Anyone?
well its my fav so far but i think its going to get more interesting for dresden and more troublesome
Greetings fellow Dresdenites!!! Turncoat...I enjoyed it but I do feel that Mr. Butcher sorta left out some characters that we have come to love. It several hundred pages into the book and starting to wonder if he had forgotten all about Bob. Even after he arrived we only saw a little of him. Did anyone else notice this about other characters as well or am I being a bit picky? I will admit that I tend to get that way with all of my favorite series.
Quote from: MaelStrom on August 10, 2008, 08:06:45 AM
I adore the book series! Right now I'm in the middle of "White Night." I haven't watched the TV series, though I know that some websites, like Hulu, have the shows. I guess I haven't seen the show because I have these images in my head of what I expect Harry to look like and how he should behave, and the same with other characters, and I know that the actors are most likely not going to be anywhere near what my imagination has conjured up.
Definite fan here. I've read everything except the most recent hardback (I usually wait for the paperbacks). I refuse to watch the TV show though after seeing the pilot. It was SO fubared from the book, I just couldn't bring myself to watch it again.
Quote from: Khaalis on July 15, 2009, 06:45:05 AM
I refuse to watch the TV show though after seeing the pilot. It was SO fubared from the book, I just couldn't bring myself to watch it again.
I'm wondering if that was a reason why the Sci-Fi Channel ended up canceling the show. The characters were so unlike the book (which is what i have heard from other fans), that the audience just ended up hating the show.
Now i was introduced to the Dresden Files through the show and loving the show i went and got the books. Now i enjoy that they are different and enjoy this difference. But than again thats me.
big fan (even read the hardcover, which I avoid). Show was iffy at best.
It was okay as long as you didn't want it to be like the books. WWII jeep instead of the blue beetle, really?
Quote from: escherblacksmith on July 15, 2009, 12:26:17 PM
WWII jeep instead of the blue beetle, really?
A JEEP?! That is so not Harry Dresden!
A travesty of epic proportions.
Quote from: escherblacksmith on July 15, 2009, 12:26:17 PM
big fan (even read the hardcover, which I avoid). Show was iffy at best. It was okay as long as you didn't want it to be like the books. WWII jeep instead of the blue beetle, really?
LOL, I was gonna go with Bob the Skull being a ghost, but this works! :P ;D
yeah, the constant manifestation is kinda weird. And Dresden doesn't seem tall enough, and, no duster.
I mean really, why even bother trying . . .
well they did try i mean when they did the tv show jim butcher was there helping with the show trying to keep it close to the book but one reason it was cancelled was beacuse of the fact when the aired it they mest up the air order because they had most of the season taped an they aired episode 3 first an then went to 2 then 1 then back to the original order which got people confused
Quote from: escherblacksmith on July 17, 2009, 08:30:40 AMAnd Dresden doesn't seem tall enough, and, no duster.
The duster was a
big deal, to me. I mean, c'mon! He mentions is
constantly!! The staff, the bracelet and the duster. Also, I always kinda pictured Harry looking like the author, actually. Tall, gangly, just a little "geeky". But, hey! That's just me. ::)
he did have the braclet and a staff for the most part if you dont mind it looking like a hockey stick
I think the other issue I had, the books are fairly dense, story-wise.
So, they really should be doing at least 6 episodes per book. Or a mini-series . . . realistically, the last time I saw a show get something like this even close was the Sci-fi doing of Dune. That one really worked for me.
Oh yes, I discovered this series based on recommendations from another board, and I have burned through them I didn't really get into them until Grave Peril but since then I would have to get them three at a time. I'm almost halfway through Small Favor and I am really enjoying the whole series. Never did watch the show, though.
This is a series that I see myself re-reading. There's a lot of information to asorb, but there not so dense you have to slog through them.
the show LOL. OH my...Blackthorn was good as Harry & I liked the more visual form of Bob ( yes they could have had a talking skull & it probably would have been as cheesy as Salem the cat from Sabrina).
Murphy as a Brunette,the lack of a duster, the Hocky stick & yes the jeep...what were they thinking?
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Just finished Changes last week . . . very good. I like where the series is going.
cant wait to read changes but i need to finish inkdeath
Heh...I had decided to re-read the series...one week before Changes came out! I'm just about to finish Proven Guilty, so I'll be up to Changes shortly.
That said, I do have my copy of the hardback. Which I wouldn't have bought, you know, if Jim Butcher hadn't signed it :)
As I was reading Changes, I was afraid it might be the last book in the series. But there are so many ways Butcher can take it from here. Glad to know there will be more. I'm a huge fan!
Quote from: Bronwyn Blackmantle on June 14, 2010, 11:49:22 PM
As I was reading Changes, I was afraid it might be the last book in the series. But there are so many ways Butcher can take it from here. Glad to know there will be more. I'm a huge fan!
I don't remember where I heard it, but he has said that he has enough "case files" to write a total of 20 Dresden Case files.
Now that I finished Changes, I've moved on to his Codex Alrea series. It's OK so far, I like his writing style, but I've heard books 3-6 are great.
I cant wait for the next set of books to come out, aftermath as told from Murphy's point of veiw and then ghost stories
The new book Side Jobs is out and I'm dying to read "Aftermath", but I'm so busy this weekend I won't be able to pick it up until next week! Ack!
Quote from: Aiacha on June 15, 2010, 07:13:01 AM
I don't remember where I heard it, but he has said that he has enough "case files" to write a total of 20 Dresden Case files.
Now that I finished Changes, I've moved on to his Codex Alrea series. It's OK so far, I like his writing style, but I've heard books 3-6 are great.
So, it has been a couple of months, what do you think about the Codex Alera? I am up through Princep's Fury, and although I can't put them down, they just are so dark . . .
I'm on Cursor's Fury...I don't have much time to read lately. I'm finding them enjoyable, yet a little predictable. Until Butcher proves that he has no trouble killing or severly wounding a main character (in this series), I just feel as if everything will always turn out OK. They are a little dark, and they don't seem to have as much as the occasional light-heartedness that Dresden Files has. I did find out something about the main character that sort of made me go "Huh, what a bummer", but I'm still planning on getting through them so I can see if the decision was called for.
That said, I like Tavi, yet sometimes I feel he's too good. Not in purity, but in skill. Situations come up that just work out right for him. Once or twice I feel myself thinking "Oh, come on. Really? He should have been caught/found/hurt." I feel as if Butcher is compensating for him having no furies by being smart and crafty at just about everything else! But I keep reading because the books are enjoyable.
The idea of the furies has sort of gotten me thinking. Since this series was a dare of Butcher combining the lost Roman 9th Legion and Pokemon (I believe), I've been thinking about timeframe and it occured to me that this civilization has no real reason to move into out "modern" age. Where we created technologies for electicity, war and medicine, they have furies that do this already, and someone sufficiently trained to harness these furies can use them with the same outcome.
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