Now that I have your attention, this isn't a naughty post. LOL. I want to get the powers that be to allow dogs, just like they do at BARF, MRF, and KRF. I have been to all 3 and dogs have never been a problem and seem to have a great time. Our Cavalier, Lady Anne Bonelyn, would love to go out and meet people. Does anyone know why they don't let dogs come? Thanks, and have a great day.
How many people thought this was a bodice thread?
own up now... ;)
Honestly with Scarby, I'm pretty sure its an insurance issue.
Yep, it was a bodice thread. Soooo a bodice thread. ;D
It is an insurance issues and to top it off there was an instance Closing Weekend last season where I remember hearing everyone talking about how a dog had been left in the parking lot/in a car, I think? It had gotten horribly dehydrated, I think. That bad taste in their mouth is still really fresh.
I love dogs but I've never been around them when I'm at faire so I'm not sure how I feel about having them there. Just like in the mundane world, bringing dogs into public places, I'm a bit on the fence. While some owners are very responsible and conscious of their dogs behavior when in such a public place such as that, other people are not.
Dunno if you'll be able to sway them. :-\
They should put the dog owner in a hot car for hours. The fairs and festivals I have been to, and I forgot to mention the Norman, OK show, the dogs and owners have all seemed well behaved. I saw people picking up after their dog and tails wagging all over. The funny sights of people pushing a baby carraige with their pup sticking her head out to take it all in was so cute. I doubt I can sway them, insurance scares many a folk.
Quote from: DonaCatalina on February 06, 2009, 02:03:14 PM
How many people thought this was a bodice thread?
own up now... ;)
Honestly with Scarby, I'm pretty sure its an insurance issue.
I did too...a bodice undoing I supposed.
I have dogs. I like dogs. I don't want them at faire. Would have to spend too much time cleaning my boots.
Most owners would be OK, but it only takes one time stepping in dog poop to change how I feel that day.
There are dogs kept at Scarby back in "keep" areas and backstage. And sometimes performing dogs. They have to clean up after them. Drunk patrons are harder to keep in line.
If you ever notice the horses in parade there is always someone following behind them to take care of any issues. Couldn't do that for patron's dogs.
I'm sorry that Scarby is not more like the faires you've been to Castle Canine Creations. I hope that doesn't keep you from joining us at faire at least this season! :)
I was hoping it was a thread about letting dogs in to more faires and it is! YEAH!!! NCRF and GLMF both allow dogs at their sites. It's nice to see there are 3 more that do. It is sad that a minority of dog owners ruin it for those of us who are responsible to pick-up and mynd our dogs. My Giovanni absolutely loves being at Faire and all the attention he receives AND he is breed appropriate!
<------------ Gio & I at NCRF!
Unfortunately, not all owners are alike.
I'm sure most would make sure their critters had adequate water, cleaned up after them and would not bring a dog that might be aggressive.
The few who aren't responsible cause such headaches that most events will no longer allow pets other than service dogs. Some clowns have even brought aggressive pit bulls. Event insurance REALLY doesn't like that possibility.
Back when our faire still allowed pets, we were always having to make sure they were hydrated. I can remember one instance where the owners of a miniature had him in a pouch and just hung the pouch from a random booth upright and left. When we realized that the little guy was becoming dehydrated, we took him down and provided him with water. His owners eventually returned and were introduced to our Security folks.
As an aside, we've had a pack of dachshunds for over forty years. Right now the tally is three.
Had to checkout this topic. ;)
I'd love to bring our IG to faire. She'd love the attention. I believe she's HA, too. :)
Thanks for all the replies, I will definitely be attending Scarby again this year. Alas, I will have a booth at the Minnesota Ren Fest, but we need to go where the doggies go. We will be at the North Texas Irish Festival the first weekend in March, Just mention this web site for 20% off and a smile. :)
Quote from: newbiehere on February 07, 2009, 08:06:56 PM
Had to checkout this topic. ;)
I'd love to bring our IG to faire. She'd love the attention. I believe she's HA, too. :)
You have an IGGY too?!!! I have 3, show 1 and rescue. Do you have a pix? I'd love to see your fur baby!
Quote from: Carl Heinz on February 07, 2009, 02:21:38 PM
Back when our faire still allowed pets, we were always having to make sure they were hydrated. I can remember one instance where the owners of a miniature had him in a pouch and just hung the pouch from a random booth upright and left. When we realized that the little guy was becoming dehydrated, we took him down and provided him with water. His owners eventually returned and were introduced to our Security folks.
Was it a miniature greyhound?
I don't think so. It was white with large black spots and long hair.
Quote from: Lady Mikayla of Phoenicia on February 08, 2009, 12:34:47 PM
...You have an IGGY too?!!! I have 3, show 1 and rescue. Do you have a pix? I'd love to see your fur baby!
Yes, but sadly the only pics I have are a bit outdated. (She doesn't sit still for any good shots.)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee2/thinnen/lindy_07.jpg)
She's a lot slimmer these days. I love these dogs. They have the best personalities and are easy to care for.
Oh hers is soooo pretty! Beautiful rose ears and I love her face! Nice hound structure to it! And one of my favoryte iggy colours, BLUE My blue boys 4th birthday is today!
I ABSOLUTELY love this breed. They ARE NOT for everyone however I find them to be absolutely delightful! Wish you were closer so we could have an iggy playdate! Thank-thee kindly for sharing.
*Due to Italian Greyhounds obtaining there name from being the breed made popular during the Italian Renaissance, favoured by then royalty and nobility and so thustly named, they should be granted royal waiver by all Faires and allowed entry!!!* ;D ;D ;D
BTW just saw your website and LOVE your doggie garb!!! Oh my gosh... ;)
I can not support allowing dogs at Scarborough. There is so much noise and excitement going on that only the most well trained dog could keep its wits about it. Most (no, not all) would bark and leave messes everywhere. And in the crowded areas people would be tripping over the leashes. The darn baby strollers are bad enough to get past. Finally if they did allow dogs, soon the cat people would demand equal rights, then the Scots with their sheep. Lord knows where it would end. It would really be a chaotic place. So please, no dogs.
I love my dog, but think it's best to leave them home. Poops can be picked up, but I'd hate to drag my skirts, cloak, etc., through a puddle - including my own baby's piddle.
Quote from: KeeperoftheBar on February 10, 2009, 07:41:59 AM
Finally if they did allow dogs, soon the cat people would demand equal rights, then the Scots with their sheep. Lord knows where it would end. It would really be a chaotic place. So please, no dogs.
Haha...sheep.
MNRF allowed all pets and has since cut it down to dogs and cats. No more bringing out my ferrets. :(
O.K. here is where I will annoy a lot of people. First I am as ardent a dog lover as anyone else out here. DOGS HAVE NO BUSINESS AT A RENN FAIRE. THERE IS NOTHING THERE FOR THEM. They cannot play any of the games. Yes it is nice to have people fawn over our pets, but the faire is NOT the place to have that happen. If it is hot it is even worse for the dog. He has to go where his people go. How many of you have gone to a faire and after even a little while you decide that it is too hot, too cold, to anything and you choose to go home, thats fine, but some of you choose to slug it out and stay just to prove you have the stamina to do it, or you want to stay for more ale at pub sing, yet in sooth the dog would rather go home, but it can tell you that. If your wife/husband told you that you would listen, but your dog cannot tell you In some instances they will interact badly with other canines/animals there. God forbid that one should get loose during the joust and go after one of the horses. How would you feel if that was your dog being trampled by a 2000lb percheron just because your attention was on the joust and not on the dog. Or worse yet nip at some child because the child invaded the dogs space. Dogs are, for the most part, territorial, and in their view, anything and anywhere that they can see, is THEIR space. Now the first thing some of you are going to say is "Oh my dog would never do that" To that I say "HOGWASH or %&**$(*" None of us, myself included knows for 100% certain what our dogs will do in all situations. Good God none of us knows what OUR CHILDREN will do let alone our pets. Case in point while at Nashville several years ago I was talking with a patron who witnessed a person with a dog. At the time Nasville allowed pets. The patron said hey I'll come back tomorrow and bring my rotweiller. I said please don't. He retorted that "His dog would not hurt anyone, he is so mild mannered". Yeah right. So the next day lo and behold he shows up with dogzilla. He was not there 1 hour when all hell broke loose. The dog nipped a young child on the cheek. It broke the skin so animal control had to show up. The child was fine just a little shook up. No one knew what set the dog off, he was just walking by the child and no one knows if the child swiped her hand at the dog with a fairy wand that she had or what. The child was at the dogs head level and she was in his space. The dog was impounded for 30 days, tested and then released back to its owner. Fortunately the dog had no illnesses of any kind so all was well. However as the owner exited the grounds to follow animal control I tapped him on the shoulder and said, " Now you know why I begged you not to bring the dog to the faire". He looked at me with anger as if it the whole event was my fault, and walked out. There is a vendor out there that I wish would win the lottery so he could franchise his company. It is called HOUNDS TOOTH INN. They set up a tent outside the gates of a faire and charge a most humble fee to keep your dog there while you attend the faire. The last time I saw them was at Hoggetown a few years ago. I sure wish they would set up at more faires. Our dog travels with us but we leave her in the camper with all of the comforts of home but she is there for the day alone. If the faire is close enough we will break for lunch and go back to let her out and then return to faire. We did utilize H.T.I. upon one occasion and they were great. They would walk the pets, provide water etc. Spread the word, if they are still around THEY ARE NEEDED.
Quote from: KeeperoftheBar on February 10, 2009, 07:41:59 AM
I can not support allowing dogs at Scarborough. There is so much noise and excitement going on that only the most well trained dog could keep its wits about it. Most (no, not all) would bark and leave messes everywhere. And in the crowded areas people would be tripping over the leashes. The darn baby strollers are bad enough to get past. Finally if they did allow dogs, soon the cat people would demand equal rights, then the Scots with their sheep. Lord knows where it would end. It would really be a chaotic place. So please, no dogs.
And then wizards would want to bring their dragons, can you imagine that pile of poop and having to clean it up.
BTW I did have, for the briefest of moments the thought that this was a bodice thread. O.K. so my mind wandered a bit, dirty old swordsmen need love to ya know. Plus I apoligize for the pevious war and peace length epistle.
You are right! But faire is no place for cats either. I do bring my dragon- but he is invisible most of the time!
Quote from: Lady Mikayla of Phoenicia on February 09, 2009, 05:54:19 PM
...I ABSOLUTELY love this breed. They ARE NOT for everyone however I find them to be absolutely delightful! Wish you were closer so we could have an iggy playdate! Thank-thee kindly for sharing.
*Due to Italian Greyhounds obtaining there name from being the breed made popular during the Italian Renaissance, favoured by then royalty and nobility and so thustly named, they should be granted royal waiver by all Faires and allowed entry!!!* ;D ;D ;D
Me, too. I'd love that! And, I agree, they should be made an exception and be welcomed to all faires. They aren't just dogs, they ARE royalty. Hehe :)
I would say no dogs at faire, but mine IS the exception. ;) She would fit right in at faire. Lindy actually loves kids, enjoys dressing up, stays with me without a leash and LOVES to be fawned over while on walks, too. :D I take her to swap meets and other gathering and have never had a problem. When a large dog approaches, she jumps in my arms. :) As for picking up messes, mine is SO modest and lady-like she doesn't like to "go" unless she is home in her own yard. I have to tell her it's okay. Seriously. She does NOT like an audience. :)
Enough completely biased comments from me. FREE THE (IG) PUPPIES!!!
Interesting comments and opinions, which is great because this part of the World is based on that kind of freedom. There are always the possibility of a bad dog or owner, but if we use this logic, we surely must ban kids, as they are such a Pain in the weed puller for the poor vendors and performers. ;D Actually, I like kids and dogs, and ferrets should be allowed as well. In all the fairs I have seen with dogs there was only one time when I noticed the dog was really tired, and then owners were pushing her in a baby carriage. LOL. I feel it is just like the responsibility of having children, you must be careful, but it can be a fun experience. I also don't think we should allow Buffalo Bill fans, those people are obnoxious. :P
There is one exception that I would make to my long winded tirade above which essentially says no dogs at faire. That would be the local SPCA, PAWS, or any other acredited adoption agency that would show up in garb and promote the adoption of pets at the faire. GARF/Atlanta does that and the only dogs allowed on site are the rescued Greyhounds. They have also brought in abused animals and it just gets the hackels on my neck in a tizzy when I see how some brain-cell less twit has mangled a dog. I have prayed to be present when something like that is going on so I can send the perPETrator to his just reward, in the next life.
Someone wanted to bring a pair of Irish Wolfhounds to Scarborough Faire for a photo shoot with King Henry VIII. I thought it would be great and agreed, even offering to walk them during the parade. How's that for a "Ye Olde Newes" cover?!?
Then she dropped the bombshell, saying, "You'll have to keep them all day."
No thanks, I have a job to do, and it ain't dog-sitting!
While I love me dogs more than I like most people I wouldn't bring them to faire. It would be just to much for them the heat the noise the strange smells etc. I do miss the sheep dog show and wish they still had room for that at Scraby. Maybe they could do a sheep dog show in the jousting field? I would also like to see them allow rescued Greyhounds at least one weekend.
Quote from: Castle Canine Creations on February 10, 2009, 04:08:37 PM
but if we use this logic, we surely must ban kids, as they are such a Pain in the weed puller for the poor vendors and performers.
Good idea. Ban children, then Iris & Rose could really cut loose.
An adult faire is an interesting idea. Or even an adult only section of a faire. Hawkwood should have been adult only with some of the things going on there. This only works if it is a small percentage of faires. The kids can be annoying, but they are the future of our faires. Ban them and we will see our hobby die out eventually.
Can't see that for Scarby though. It is a family faire and I like it that way. I want as few changes as possible to plague "my" faire.
As for Iris and Rose... The first year of Hawkwood I worked in a booth just across a dirt path from the adult pub. There were no walls at the pub the first year. All day long I heard the songs over and over and over. Now I can't stand them. I don't remember if it was actually Iris and Rose or another group singing the same songs, but it doesn't matter. I stay far away. Hearing "Roll your leg over" is like hearing fingernails on a blackboard now. Wasn't too bad the first 20 times, but now......
BAN KIDS?????????????
OH NO. Send them to one of the bigger food vendors who has big oven, seasoned properly and with a good bottle of wine they taste like chicken
BURN THE BODICE!! :o
Oh, wait, no..different subject.
As for puppies, the only ones I have seen out at faire, are the working dogs.
(See-eye dogs, and this one guy with a jazzy, I see him at pub sing all the time)
There was a gent who had a drey-dog that pulled along his parrot show for awhile.
What ever happened to him?
As for casually strolling the Faire with pups; nope.
It only takes one occurence..
Quote from: lilaney on February 11, 2009, 03:11:07 PM
It only takes one occurrence..
Aye, only one occurrence and then someone would shut the place down.
Though I think it is really neat that other faires have managed to make it possible so that mans best friend can also attend. My parents dog Lacey is quite the people-dog and does great in public situations.
I think I have enough issue with just trying to make sure that I myself do not get dehydrated or fatigued, which happens really easily, I wouldn't want to risk Lacey getting too hot running around all day at faire.
I would love for you all to attend one of the faires that do allow dogs to see how great a time it can be. Many vendors have water for the dogs, and everyone has fun. The festivals that I know do allow dogs are Minnesota, Michigan, Kansas City, Bay Area, N.C., Great Lakes, and Norman, OK. Either way, I can't wait to visit Scarborough again this year. Have FUN.
As much as I love me dogs they have no place at the faire. Too much going on for them and even the best behaved sometimes develope issues. So I say no dogs tae faire other than the working dogs that are needed.
I am a huge dog lover, but not at faire. It only takes on time to step in "it", and it would change my day! lol ;)
Quote from: Castle Canine Creations on February 16, 2009, 09:20:11 AM
I would love for you all to attend one of the faires that do allow dogs to see how great a time it can be. Many vendors have water for the dogs, and everyone has fun. The festivals that I know do allow dogs are Minnesota, Michigan, Kansas City, Bay Area, N.C., Great Lakes, and Norman, OK. Either way, I can't wait to visit Scarborough again this year. Have FUN.
RPFS used to allow pets. Unfortunately, a few irresponsible owners spoiled it for the rest.