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Title: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: DonaCatalina on March 04, 2009, 09:04:50 AM
Fot all the Hollywood hype, very few people actually wore swords every day. Sumptuary laws that varied from time to time and place to place generally limited blades over a certain length to nobility.
There is some disagreement between hsitorians about wether this gave rise to long daggers and stilettos in Italy, and even short cutlasses.
But at Renaissance Faires it seems that everyone including the bar wenches have to carry a blade.

How important do you think your blade is to your Faire Persona?

Would you feel undressed without it?
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: BLAKDUKE on March 04, 2009, 11:56:42 AM
Dona Catalina:

Your initial statement I think is the crux of the matter, "HOLLYWOOD HYPE"  I would be willing to bet that a lot of us have grown up with Errol Flynn.  My initial personna was a combination of Don Juan, Geoffry Thorpe(the sea hawk),  His character in Against All Flags  and Stewart Granger in Scaramouche and Swordsman of Sienna.  My alternate personna if I am doing a faire as King(not Henry VIII) I only carry a daggar.  However as the BLAKDUKE I carry a rapier, which is vital to the character I have created.  However being a 21st century individual and only having very dim memories of how to comport myself in the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries I have found that my boots get tangled with the tip of the scabbard.  So I have found a dress sword to carry that is somewhat shorter.  So to answer your question YES it is vital to my main personna to carry a sword.   I did violate my own edict of not attending a faire that had a no weapons policy once.  It was in order to take my grand-daughter to Sterling.  I have to admit I felt lighter and was able to move about easier but I did not like the whole scene without my sword.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Carl Heinz on March 04, 2009, 12:31:58 PM
Swords were more frequently worn by nobles.

However most folks carried a knife of some sort--usually just for eating.  These were generally worn on a belt.  Boot knives have a bit more of a sinister connotation.

When middle class, I generally carry a short dagger.  My favorite is a pattern welded piece with ivory handle and silver fittings.  When peasant, I like my welded cable knife with a bone handle.  It looks somewhat rustic.

However, I'll admit to having accumulated a number of pointies over the years and, as I've mentioned elsewhere, my favorite provider is Jim Hrisoulas at Salamander Armory.  And, no, I don't work for him.   :)
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Capt. Morgan on March 04, 2009, 01:52:17 PM
Weapons? We don't need no stinkin' weapons!  ;)

As an Immortal assassin?

Hmmm.....

I usually count on my rapier-like wit to disarm my opponents!  ;D

(Remember, I can be one of those "Bad Things" that happen to bad people!)
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: sealion on March 04, 2009, 04:08:53 PM
The lady relies on gentlemen to defend her.
The pirate carries a firearm. :D
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: SirRichardBear on March 04, 2009, 04:24:29 PM
Like others mention it depends, at Scarby and Four Winds my persona is "working" as a Royal highlander guarding the person of the Queen carrying a blade is pretty much a requirement.  However even there on days I'm planing to spending with the wife watching shows I'll not carry a sword.  Of course being Scottish that doesn't mean unarmed I'll have my highland dirk, my Sgian Dubh and most likely a good walking staff.  When visiting TRF, Middlefaire  or anyother faire were I'm not a "working" playtron I don't normally carry a sword just my highland dirk, my Sgian Dubh and most likely a good walking staff.   
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Queen Bonnie on March 04, 2009, 04:35:26 PM
 As A lady wizard- My wand ,athame and staff are very important and I never leave home without my bodice dagger! I feel undressed without my sharp pointies. My Pirate evil twin out does me on the weapons though! She is very well armed!  Although I think dragging around a cannon is a bit much! LOL!
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Martin Montgomery on March 04, 2009, 04:47:49 PM
 As my persona started out as a simple merchant,I carry only one wide bladed dagger,for my own protection. I do however,usually use a very large and heavy walking staff,which increases my reach considerably!! My persona may start to show the influence of years of writing with the DMT crew and start to change.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Sir Morgan on March 04, 2009, 06:17:14 PM
For me as a child of the highland I like to have at least a sword on even if it is the wrong style.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Dracconia on March 04, 2009, 08:19:58 PM
As long as I have my bodice dagger I am fine! I have other sharp and pointies..and when walking parade I might wear my sword...but other than that no...why do you think I keep all the men around...they do the killing for me...

meat pie anyone? :D
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: MorganaLightskirt on March 04, 2009, 09:04:36 PM
They may not be that important to the persona...but the increase in confidence(attitude!) when I don Mithrodin is amazing...I do love my sword!  And the knives on both arms...well, hehehe ;D
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Al-Nimer on March 04, 2009, 10:44:20 PM
I usually carry a sword and dagger, whether I'm a knight, pirate or Scotsman.  I consider these weapons a necessity for the first two.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Lady L on March 05, 2009, 12:23:04 AM
We have no weapons and they are not necessary.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Malcolm on March 05, 2009, 01:22:59 AM
As a kilted Scot, I always carry my sgian dubh in my right stocking top. Tradition dictates that a Scot will leave his weapons at the door of his host, except for his sgian dubh, and that should be displayed for all to see. By displaying his sgian dubh, a Scot is declaring his friendship.
Beware of any Scot that does not display his sgian dubh in this manner, for he is hiding it elsewhere.




Since I have one made of plastic, I can wear it even at Faires where weapons are not allowed.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: jcbanner on March 05, 2009, 01:43:20 AM
It depends on which event that I'm working at.  RSL has two yearly events, the renfaire in late spring, and the piratefest in the fall.

At the renfaire, my character is a woodworker, so I have no need for a weapon, so I have none, I'll always have my belt knife with me, but its for carving with and eating with.  after that, most my woodworking tools could be used as weapons, axes, and other large blades and all that.

However, at the pirate fest is a different matter all together.  There, I'm a personal hired guard and "business handler" for the owner of a fleet of shipping vessels.  My master though is not above dealing with roughs, cut throats, smugglers, and finding buyers for merchandise that isn't exactly documented where it comes from.  So at that event, I'm little better then a thug and a henchman, (though you should never call me such to my face, I'll be quite insulted since I'm the top guard for a very wealthy business man.

Here, at this event, I'm well armed. I have to be, I need to look semi respectable, but also beable to put on a good show.  My profile pic is from the pirate fest, though most of the weapons are not visible in it,  but I like it that way.  they'll see my French military saber, hanging in one hip, and on the other hip a throwing axe modified for a better fighting grip and that sits next to one of my flintlock pistols, my other blackpowder pistol is hidden and easy to conceal under a sleeve cuff as a close range "argument stopper"  I also have a number of knives that will seem to show up out of no where.  It wears me down like nothing else, but my swordbelt and two shoulder baldrics combined weigh between 40 and 50 Lbs.
Bloody 'ell hard ta be a guard with out yer weapons it is!
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Var Greyshadow on March 05, 2009, 07:02:06 AM
"Bloody 'ell hard ta be a guard with out yer weapons it is!" - exactly right, jcbanner!  Since I'm a Royal Guard at Scarby, having at least one weapon is required. 

However, even in my more fantasy Ranger persona, I woud feel very strange without my sword at my hip and my quiver on my back.  It seems like strapping on the sword is that final bit that really says, "I'm at faire!"  As far as the weapons being essential to the persona, I think my leather tunic and woodland shirt and pants would carry the image well enough even unarmed, but if I were truly roaming the Wild, I'd be armed to the teeth.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: GirlChris on March 05, 2009, 03:59:57 PM
My peasant characters usually cary a belt knife, which I use for eating. However my pirate character, Mad Mary Teach, is very definetly NOT armed. Character wise, she's not allowed to have them by order of the Captain. She's not even supposed to be off-leash while in public, as she's not fully house trained. In reality, I don't carry them because I spend a lot of time rolling around on the ground, climbing things, dancing and falling over. I'd probably stab myself.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Eric the Ugly on March 09, 2009, 11:15:52 AM
Oh, geeze. I'd feel naked without a weapon on my side. It may sound silly/shallow, but honestly, I don't think I could truely enjoy going to a faire that didn't allow weapons.

Having a CCW, I carry a handgun at all times, so on Fest days, I just switch to a more appropriate tool of self-defence. :)
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Elennare on March 09, 2009, 11:41:50 AM
I enjoy carrying my sword, dagger, whip, and bow and arrows (or some combination thereof) to faire, when allowed.  I think they help show who I am.  The bow can kind of get in the way sometimes, though (it's as tall as me!).  However, I go (or at least went) to some faires that did not allow weapons. 

Being an elven ranger who has had hundreds of years to train, the most important lesson I have learned is that *I* am the weapon and whatever I happen to hold in my hand is mearly an extension of myself, so I am never unarmed, even when I am visiting mortal lands that have laws against the wearing of weapons  :)
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Jezzy MacPeaks on March 13, 2009, 08:42:37 PM
I used to carry many blades, but now I carry a flintlock!  I can get by with a small blade, you never know when you're going to need to core an apple.  *lol*  But, I cannot stand to be at Faire without my flintlock.  I use it mostly as a handrest, which then allows for a really cool Piratical pose!  ;)
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: jcbanner on April 07, 2009, 12:11:12 PM
On the topic of flintlocks, I don't know how important they really are to my persona, but I can tell you they have a persona built into them that would likely rival that of a cast member or two.  no kidding, I have an introduction for three different pistols that describes each one perfectly, but you would never know its about a pistol!
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: BubbleWright on April 13, 2009, 03:20:24 PM
 ;D I carry no edged weapons nor firearms... however, I do wield a fully loaded Renaissance Bubble Machine and for heavy artillery, a marshmallow catapult on a stick.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Jade Sapphire Emerald on April 13, 2009, 03:31:13 PM
Both at Faire and in the mundane world, I feel naked without my weapons, be it a pocket knife, throwing dagger, sais, or even a *poking stick* wand. My character is one of a traveller, more travelling bard (still working on her stories) who has seen much of the world while in search of her father. Being on her own alot, she needs to defend herself, and so, in turn, feels rather naked without her weapons, and defenseless against predators, animal or human!

In the mundane world, I just like sharp, pointy things, and I'm way overly prepared...

P.S. I actually had a dream recently where I went to faire and did not have a single weapon on me. Needless to say, I woke up a wee bit scared as if it were a bad dream!
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: maelstrom0370 on April 13, 2009, 04:17:47 PM
Yes and no.
I'm still a work in prpgress, but part of the persona is "overpreparedness".  To that end, I am a boarding party unto myself with 6 pistols, 2 blunderbusses?....blunderbi?...blunder-s-bus? Whatever! a belaying pin (ok it's actually a big wooden pin used to secure theater ropes, but it serves) and a hand axe.  Could I go without them and still have fun? Sure, but that would be a dem big waste of money!!
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Pyroguy on April 14, 2009, 05:24:46 PM
Well... I don't carry any weapons per se. Most people who see me either recognize me or have heard of me and are afraid I have unstable chemicals on my person... ;D
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Molden on April 14, 2009, 09:45:19 PM
I've been known t' wear me "trophy wife" from tyme t' tyme (a lovely cutlass) ... but when thar be plunder t' be 'ad, she can get a bit in th' way - so she gets left behynd on those occasions.

... then again - wot persona?

I AM my persona!  8)
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Macintyre on April 14, 2009, 11:19:25 PM
I'm a highlander, and being as how ever fair i go to takes place in england, I'm out numbered and aweapon is kinda required.  Now if we were in Scotland, then i probably wouldn't need a giant arse sword strapped to me back, cause then the numbers game would be in my favor.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: robert of armstrong on April 15, 2009, 12:52:08 AM
I have found that strapping on my weapons tend to make me feel like I have finished putting on my persona - I don't often carry a sword, but rather a large bearded axe, war hammer and/or two-ball flail.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Malcolm on April 15, 2009, 01:06:05 AM
Quote from: Macintyre on April 14, 2009, 11:19:25 PM
I'm a highlander, and being as how ever fair i go to takes place in england, I'm out numbered and aweapon is kinda required.  Now if we were in Scotland, then i probably wouldn't need a giant arse sword strapped to me back, cause then the numbers game would be in my favor.
That would depend on the number of MacDonald clansmen in the crowd, seeing how friendly the MacIntyres are with the Campbells. ;D
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Lady Christina de Pond on April 16, 2009, 12:50:47 PM
being me if i didn't have atleast one object with a point on it I would feel naked. we shall see how it goes since I"m a lady and i carry a sword and dagger.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Jean Pierre Dewell on April 20, 2009, 08:37:03 PM
OHHH for me my sword is so part of me being a Musketeer, every Musketeer movie I have seen have there swords with themit fits so perfect!
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Robert eben Hope on April 20, 2009, 08:55:15 PM
It is all I have....I am an archer, can't be an archer with out a bow!
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Don Quixote on April 30, 2009, 09:28:59 AM
It is sometimes fun to carry my unique DQX bent sword when faire policy permits or I am working cast, it does draw some attention and comments. But most times as a playtron it just gets in the way and is uncomfortable.

Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Whistler Fred on April 30, 2009, 10:57:25 AM
My faire persona is that of a 16th Century peasant, so I don't carry any standard weapons.  However, I'm also a musician with a fairly formidable collection of pipes of various sizes and volume.  Some might consider these to be weapons...
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: tiberiusflynn on May 05, 2009, 02:28:49 PM
As a Pirate its kinda vital for me to have a sword. Recently, I have acquired a shorter and lighter sword to avoid entangling my weapon in my companions feet.

And, as a precaution. I know that all weapons are supposed to be "peace tied" but if I'm going to be around a bunch of drunkards with swords....I'm going to have one on me as well. You never know when it will be needed.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: BLAKDUKE on May 05, 2009, 02:55:38 PM
Quote from: knightofistari on May 05, 2009, 02:28:49 PM
As a Pirate its kinda vital for me to have a sword. Recently, I have acquired a shorter and lighter sword to avoid entangling my weapon in my companions feet.

And, as a precaution. I know that all weapons are supposed to be "peace tied" but if I'm going to be around a bunch of drunkards with swords....I'm going to have one on me as well. You never know when it will be needed.

HALLALEUAH  YAYUSSSS.   PRAISE  ODIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Aaroncois on May 30, 2009, 09:14:27 AM
My persona is that of a French Lord/Musketeer-type and I do own a basket-hilt rapier (it's a piece of crap, sadly. Looks nice, but you can feel the tang rattle inside the hilt), but I've never worn it to faire and don't really plan to. I have enough trouble shepherding three kids around without constantly worrying that I'm tripping them or somebody else (or myself) with a 4'-long scabbard. Sterling only began to allow weapons last year anyway, so I'm long since used to being unarmed.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: DT_Masters on June 01, 2009, 02:23:25 AM
It's still all in development. While the character has firmed up pretty well, the issue of a weapon or so is still in question and the main part of that is the amount of weight I am already carrying with the camera gear. This last time, with those two tiger skin bags? One bag was for my loot such as figurines and that was relatively light. The other one that I wore through out Scarborough, however, had the backup 35 mm frame, lens, flash, film, cleaning cloths, batteries, and whatever. As time goes on, I suppose I will figure out how to better wear the gear in garb, how to better calculate just what is needed and what is sufficient backup. But until I make those adjustments, a weapon is a secondary consideration.

......and there are several weapons in that consideration. A few years ago, I considered carrying a lariat with a monkey fist at one end. At the time, my tying of a monkey fist was barely passable. Still, it is a possibility to return to especially since the llama wool parka suggests sailing to regions of southern Spanish America......bolos with monkey fists? The nice thing about this line of thought is that they are inexpensive to make.

Last TRF, I bought a katana, an acceptable sword for an adventurer and sailor. It, however, is still in the problem area of the camera taking priority and how to wear it, how to outfit wearing it such as Xena style behind the back......and that llama wool parka worn is a priority part of my costume as well. Of course, as an adventurer to the Orient, I am skilled in their method of weaponless fighting.........but just as it was true when I was not in garb but olive drab time traveler clothing, that's part of the private fantasy and others are not likely to know about it.

Likewise, while I hardly think of it as a weapon, it is nevertheless true that the Time Piece is essential to my outfit. That's the calculator watch, a time traverler's device, worn under the leopard bandana. In "previous stories", it's enabled me to be remembered by the locals as the were most likely to see me. I suppose in a manner of thinking, it's a defensive weapon of a sort. But again, that is part of the private fantasy that is not obvious.

An alternate to the lariat is a bull whip even if it does have a Hollywood suggestion to it. A whip could be on one hip and a bowie type knife, era equivalent, could be worn on the other. In concept, it shouldn't interfere too much with weight or the picture taking..........but then again, neither are in inventory, either. Knives as props, however, are not too difficult to construct. Once did it as a high school project for the Macbeth daggers with the cross beams of an old wooden stool, black twine, plant spikes, and silver paint.

Finally, since there is something of a Ranger mentality in me and my character, a bow might be in place as well.......but under current considerations, I'm seeing that out of place at the faire.....though in place at the Sultan's palace when I was hunting those tigers.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: DonaCatalina on August 28, 2009, 09:34:11 AM
I'm pretty sure that Don Juan is not getting a sword for his birthay this year.
I think he's up to 5 or 6. I've lost count.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Dragonlord on August 28, 2009, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: DonaCatalina on August 28, 2009, 09:34:11 AM
I'm pretty sure that Don Juan is not getting a sword for his birthay this year.
I think he's up to 5 or 6. I've lost count.

One can never have too many sharp pointy things.  A guy and his swords are like women and their shoes.  No matter how many you have, it's never enough.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Butch on August 28, 2009, 12:24:22 PM
I'm a mariner.  I need a small belt knife to do my shipboard duties.  I have no need of a sword.  I also use a small axe from time to time.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Laird Fraser of Lovatt on August 28, 2009, 12:42:08 PM
I carry a piper's dirk... a pair of sgain dubh's and a Blackthorn walking stick (Cold Steel).

I have a full size Claymore but because of it's age and size, it doesn't come out much.  Next year, i'll have a baskethilt swinging at my side...
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: tiberiusflynn on December 04, 2009, 12:23:20 PM
Quote from: Fraser of Lovatt on August 28, 2009, 12:42:08 PM
I carry a piper's dirk... a pair of sgain dubh's and a Blackthorn walking stick (Cold Steel).

I have a full size Claymore but because of it's age and size, it doesn't come out much.  Next year, i'll have a baskethilt swinging at my side...

What do you think of the blackthorn? I bought one and wasn't too impressed with it....

I currently carry the Cold Steel 1917 cutlass but seeing out the design is fairly basic...it doesn't look too anachronistic.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Lady Renee Buchanan on December 04, 2009, 04:51:53 PM
I have a small dagger that I wear on my belt.  But during the hot, hot summer, I really hate to have a heavy belt, as I'm constantly drinking water and gatorade to not dehydrate, and everything interferes with the very frequent privvy runs.  Then I usually wear just a belt and 1 pouch and my mug, don't even wear my sash with the favors on it.

Otherwise, if it's not stinkingly hot, I usually wear the dagger with all garb except my noble garb.  It's not that important that I HAVE to wear it, but it was a gift from our son's friend who studied in China and brought a dagger and a short sword back for Steve and me.  They aren't H/A, but we wear them proudly, as it was a very kind gesture for the young man to think of us.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Pirateleach on February 16, 2010, 10:28:47 AM
Weapons Weapons Weapons......ooooooo i love 'em!
Some folks need em to draw that focus to their garb and character.  Having the right weapon to compliment your garb is the bee's knees.

I have a cutlass and flintlock on my baldric and a blade in my boot.  Do i need them, naaaaaaaa. I have gone without them before. Makes it easier to sneak up on a wench and give here good fright(smooch) and scamper off. ;D





Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Ian Maxwell on February 16, 2010, 02:51:53 PM
No respectable Highlander would go out in public without weapons. I wear a basket hilt, dirk and sgian dubh.
both the smaller blades were made by a friend and are quite beautiful if not H/A.

Ian
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: RSLeask on April 20, 2010, 10:09:28 AM
It can depend on things like outfit, but generally speaking... yes, I feel incredibly out of place without a sword.  Despite having to keep it peace-tied, there's something about the weight that's reassuring to me.  Besides, my main persona is a wayfarer that lives by his sword, so it's only suiting that he carries one (or several, as I'm planning on).  Laws may have been in place restricting weapons, but I doubt they mattered much to those that travelled the wilds more than they stayed in towns or villages.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Monsignor de Beaumanoir on April 20, 2010, 10:19:37 AM
A medieval Warrior Monk without a weapon at a faire, is like a Ferrari without a bright paint job. He's still expensive, but not as flashy.  ;) ;D :P
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: DonaCatalina on October 07, 2010, 02:33:04 PM
I've noticed an increase in the number of replica pistols at faire lately. Are there more, or am I just now noticing?
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Drudonn on October 07, 2010, 05:45:21 PM
I haven't noticed--I'll be sure to be on the look out for them when I go to TRF.

My wizard persona is one who lives in the woodlands and wilds, so a sword isn't really the best tool to have. I'll have a couple of axes and knives (multi-purpose tools!) on me, but I've decided that I won't be wearing a sword. I do love my sword collection, but I felt like going in a different direction--no sword, no staff. Instead, I've got axes and a quite magical looking walking stick.
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy68/wtdees06/IMG00276.jpg) (comes up to about my waist)
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Captain Cornelius Howard Duckman on October 07, 2010, 11:06:56 PM
Dona: They've been showing up with the increase in pirates.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: analise on October 08, 2010, 11:02:01 AM
Quote from: Captain Cornelius Howard Duckman on October 07, 2010, 11:06:56 PM
Dona: They've been showing up with the increase in pirates.

That, I think, and folks doing the Steampunk thing. Or at least most of the Steampunk-y folks I know have pistol replicas of some sort.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Capt Robertsgrave Thighbiter on October 08, 2010, 11:21:56 AM
 Dona, you are correct. With the availability in the last 5-6 years of relatively inexpensive India made flintlock pistols of several sorts, a lot of those who do a pirate impersonation can now sport ( almost) period black powder weapons, capable of firing a live round.

10-15 years ago - the only flinters available were actual antiques ( way way expensive) or gunsmith made reproductions ( merely way expensive) and a few kits for those handy with tools ( not cheap either, and I'm sure more then a few either never got built or were built badly by those figuring to put it together with a screwdriver and hammer).

My only concern is that there are now many more fire-able flintlocks in the hands of folks who may not actually be aware of how to handle black powder or flinters when loaded with ball.  Even a blank load can be dangerous.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Ronald the Bald on October 08, 2010, 01:09:54 PM
As a member of the Highland regiment at Scarby I always carry a basket hilt until at least after parade. When I put away the sword and armour I still at least have a couple of daggers and an oak staff that I know well how to use.

It isn't just Hollywood hype that weapons are carried in our period. Look at renaissance paintings. Arms and armour are quite common for gentlemen to wear. Those without arms tend to be women, children, religious figures, or common labor going about their tasks. There are also many where it is not possible to tell if he is armed.

Outside of faire I am almost always well armed. I have a CHL and carry everywhere I can. I would feel naked at faire unarmed. I leave my gun in the car, but have something else always.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Craigmeister on October 09, 2010, 12:42:21 AM
Ha!  My longbow is very important to my persona.  I don't want people to think I'm flippin' Peter Pan or something.  Of course, I could almost pull off a trebuchet operator w/o my bow & arrows.  ;-)
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: crashbot on October 11, 2010, 09:03:15 AM
I am not sure how this is actually applied as far as ownership of the weapons, but here is an excerpt of Mens clothing laws during the Elizabethan period in regards to wearing them.

None shall wear spurs, swords, rapiers, daggers, skeans, woodknives, or hangers, buckles or girdles, gilt, silvered or damasked: except knights and barons' sons, and others of higher degree or place, and gentlemen in ordinary office attendant upon the Queen's majesty's person; which gentlemen so attendant may wear all the premises saving gilt, silvered, or damasked spurs.

That said, I wear a sword because it completes the outfit and I like it.  ;D

*edit

After reading that a few times and letting it stew, I am not sure if the law means "none of a particular station shall wear X, if X is ornate"  and plain or unadorned weapons are fine?

Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Ilia the Stupefying on October 11, 2010, 05:13:42 PM
I would love to have a character that would allow me to wear a sword. As it is, I do have a medieval style knife that I can wear with my garb (it kind of looks like a butcher knife) but by the time you have to peace tie it, it's not worth the bother to carry.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: DonaCatalina on October 12, 2010, 07:05:00 AM
Quote from: crashbot on October 11, 2010, 09:03:15 AM
I am not sure how this is actually applied as far as ownership of the weapons, but here is an excerpt of Mens clothing laws during the Elizabethan period in regards to wearing them.

None shall wear spurs, swords, rapiers, daggers, skeans, woodknives, or hangers, buckles or girdles, gilt, silvered or damasked: except knights and barons' sons, and others of higher degree or place, and gentlemen in ordinary office attendant upon the Queen's majesty's person; which gentlemen so attendant may wear all the premises saving gilt, silvered, or damasked spurs.

That said, I wear a sword because it completes the outfit and I like it.  ;D

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After reading that a few times and letting it stew, I am not sure if the law means "none of a particular station shall wear X, if X is ornate"  and plain or unadorned weapons are fine?
I suspect the wording was left vague to increase the possibility of fines. But maybe I'm just cynical that way.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Nighthawk on October 12, 2010, 02:35:14 PM
Quote from: Malcolm on March 05, 2009, 01:22:59 AM
As a kilted Scot, I always carry my sgian dubh in my right stocking top. Tradition dictates that a Scot will leave his weapons at the door of his host, except for his sgian dubh, and that should be displayed for all to see. By displaying his sgian dubh, a Scot is declaring his friendship.
Beware of any Scot that does not display his sgian dubh in this manner, for he is hiding it elsewhere.




Since I have one made of plastic, I can wear it even at Faires where weapons are not allowed.

That is my persona, as well. When at faire, it's assumed that I am in England, which is hostile territory in the late Renaissance, so I feel I should be carrying my dirk, basket hilt claymore and targe, as well, especially as I'm there with my family, and my wife and daughter may need their honor defended.

Quote from: DonaCatalina on October 07, 2010, 02:33:04 PM
I've noticed an increase in the number of replica pistols at faire lately. Are there more, or am I just now noticing?

I think it may have to do with more of us doing research into correct weapons of the time. I plan on getting a brace of steel Scots pistols over the off season, as they were very commonly carried in the late Renaissance, all the way up to the middle of the 1800's.


...oh yeah... and carrying a lochaber axe may be frowned upon, even at faires that allow weapons...
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: kulrath Bane (Dragon Slayer AZ) on December 08, 2011, 03:13:00 PM
For me having weapons is an essential part of my character as I am a Mercenary.  I am always ready for a fight as long as I get paid for it.... :)
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Jared Thorne on December 08, 2011, 06:05:52 PM
For a number of years, I have carried my sword and dagger to faire and I feel out of sorts if I don't have them with me. As a matter of fact, I have been asked quite a few times where I got the sword.

On the other hand, I didn't carry either weapon with me when I attended the Michigan faire (this was back when they didn't allow weapons) and I didn't have any problem not carrying weapons as no one else attending the faire had them either.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Craigmeister on December 09, 2011, 07:22:19 AM
My weapons are essential to my character.  I  am an English longbowman at faire so if I didn't have them or my hat, people might think that I man a trebuchet.  I have yet to attend a faire that won't let me carry them around although I don't know how to tie my bow in a piece not.

Several people have asked me if I'm going to put on a shooting display but most of the faires in my part of the country don't have an archery range.  I have thought about creating an acting schtick with shooting but I'm sure the insurance costs for the faires and me would be out of this world. 
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: DonaCatalina on December 09, 2011, 09:01:15 AM
Quote from: Craigmeister on December 09, 2011, 07:22:19 AM
My weapons are essential to my character.  I  am an English longbowman at faire so if I didn't have them or my hat, people might think that I man a trebuchet.  I have yet to attend a faire that won't let me carry them around although I don't know how to tie my bow in a peace knot.

Several people have asked me if I'm going to put on a shooting display but most of the faires in my part of the country don't have an archery range.  I have thought about creating an acting schtick with shooting but I'm sure the insurance costs for the faires and me would be out of this world. 

You should visit Scarborough sometime to participate in their longbow competition.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: SirRichardBear on December 09, 2011, 11:14:07 AM
Quote from: Craigmeister on December 09, 2011, 07:22:19 AM
My weapons are essential to my character.  I  am an English longbowman at faire so if I didn't have them or my hat, people might think that I man a trebuchet.  I have yet to attend a faire that won't let me carry them around although I don't know how to tie my bow in a piece not.


I carry my longbow in a bow bag its period and when asked what's in the bag I use that as an excuse to open it show it off, show how to string it, etc and explain I carry it this way to protect it from the weather.  The arrows are in an arrow bag or if I'm using an open quiver I peace tie the arrows. 

If you can make Scarby we have an open tournament Sunday at 5pm,  period single or stright bows 50# or under and period arrows with bullet points we have tournament bows and arrows but you are welcome to shoot your own at your own risk and after clearing them with the tournament masters to make sure they meet the tournament regualtions.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Craigmeister on December 12, 2011, 12:52:28 PM
I would like to compete at Scarby.  I keep trying to get down there but family plans keep taking precedence.  I did compete in the Four Winds archery tourney two years ago as soon as I bought my bow but some 10 year old kid beat me that day.  :-)
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Molden on December 12, 2011, 01:50:26 PM
I only wear weapons on occasion anymore. But when I do, I wear my "Trophy Wife" a beauteous functional cutlass in a custom made baldric from Leather Dreams. 
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: amy on December 12, 2011, 01:57:10 PM
Oh Molden,  you know your best weapon is that smile.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Captain Teague on December 12, 2011, 02:02:45 PM
Where else am I going to take my toys?


They get real upset when I wear em to work or the Mall...... *Wicked Smile*
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Craigmeister on December 13, 2011, 03:14:41 PM
Quote from: Lord Dragon on December 12, 2011, 02:02:45 PM
Where else am I going to take my toys?


They get real upset when I wear em to work or the Mall...... *Wicked Smile*

Huzzah!
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: Jack Daw at Work on December 19, 2011, 07:38:25 PM
I used to wear my claymore in a back scabbard, along with my dirk and a sgian dhu.  I haven't worn my claymore to the TRF in a long time, but I still carry my dirk peace-tied.
Title: Re: How important are weapons to your persona?
Post by: daggrim on December 23, 2011, 01:09:18 PM
As a Viking persona, I carry my seax always, hanging horizontally across my rear end.  In Saxon England it was considered the mark of a free man to wear the seax/sax.  It was a ubiquitous weapon in Scandanavia, England, and Normandy in the Middle Ages...like carrying a six gun in the Wild West.
Then I carry some kind of utility knife.
Each knife is on a separate belt, so I can remove the sax without loosing my pouch and my toothpick.
My spear stays in the tent, except during a parade, because shopping with that thing sucks.
Daggrim