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Pirate Festival => Port of Call => Topic started by: tiberiusflynn on April 29, 2009, 01:41:26 PM

Title: Pirate vs. Knight
Post by: tiberiusflynn on April 29, 2009, 01:41:26 PM
So apparently, Deadliest Warrior had a 17th century Pirate face off with a old school Knight in armor.

Anyone catch this episode? I unfortunately didn't as I don't have cable. I know who won through some scuttlebutt around the office but don't want to ruin it for anyone....
Title: Re: Pirate vs. Knight
Post by: Kruzar on April 29, 2009, 03:48:48 PM
I didn't catch it.. but you can watch it online as well..

http://www.spike.com/full-episode/31860
Title: Re: Pirate vs. Knight
Post by: Lord Figaro on April 30, 2009, 01:28:17 AM
I just watched it and have to say. I'm not surprised by the end result.
Title: Re: Pirate vs. Knight
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on April 30, 2009, 01:58:21 AM
The big thing to understand is the time period. Make it a Old School vs Old School and it is completely different. There was a reason the knight was phased out later on. Especially when black powder started. It's kind of like compairing 8 track against digital recordings. I still like the show and find it entertaining. I do prefer Weapons masters more.
Title: Re: Pirate vs. Knight
Post by: tiberiusflynn on April 30, 2009, 09:19:57 AM
Quote from: sir clisto on April 30, 2009, 01:58:21 AM
The big thing to understand is the time period. Make it a Old School vs Old School and it is completely different. There was a reason the knight was phased out later on. Especially when black powder started. It's kind of like compairing 8 track against digital recordings. I still like the show and find it entertaining. I do prefer Weapons masters more.

I definitely agree with time period differences. Although, I have to say, I honestly thought the knight would've had more of a chance seeing how he's basically a walking tank and the pirate had no armor at all. Either way...being a pirate myself I was rooting for the scoundrel.

Sadly, I don't have cable...or internet at home...
Title: Re: Pirate vs. Knight
Post by: Blackjack Roberts on April 30, 2009, 09:50:02 AM
Considering the average weight of a suit of armor (45-55 pounds) you have to admire the sheer stamina of the knights of old. In a technologically level playing field the outcome would have probably been quite different.

The weight of "bullet proof" armor made it completely impractical.

Still, being a pirate meself......Ye just know we'd not be fightn' fair in the first place.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Pirate vs. Knight
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on May 01, 2009, 03:01:33 AM
The only other thing that they didnt even consider and had happen was the misfiring of the gun or guns. That should have been calculated in the mix but was given the second chance to fire again. You only get one chance with the big gun. That and the fact that most pirates also didnt even carry grenades or the large gun or even had one. So, with mainly just the pistol, that was ineffective as shown. Like I said, the period with advanced stuff is why many things would not really be an accurate account. Don't get me wrong, I like the pirate era. It is all in the fun of speculation.
Title: Re: Pirate vs. Knight
Post by: Blackjack Roberts on May 01, 2009, 10:35:21 AM
Quite true indeed, sir clisto. One of the reasons that most pirates carried more than one pistol into battle was exactly that chance of misfire.

It is all just fun speculation, but methinks hardly fair to the knight.

What would prove to be a more interesting contest, (in my own opinion), would be knight vs gladiator. The weapons are more or less equal, and it would be interesting to see if the additional mobility of wearing less armor would be a factor in the results.
Title: Re: Pirate vs. Knight
Post by: Lord Clisto of York on May 06, 2009, 04:37:40 AM
That is a little closer for sure. There is one factor that many do not truly understand as well, and that is the armor was not restrictive. Plate armor was very articulated and men could jump, roll, spin, dodge, squat or whatever in it. Running is more restrictive but most other movement was not in all honesty. Chain on the other hand was not like that. I have seen knights move just as fast as an unarmored opponent and it surprises a lot of people. So, even that part of the show was not correct. But hay, it is entertaining.
Title: Re: Pirate vs. Knight
Post by: Sir William Marcus on May 06, 2009, 06:38:13 AM
You can find a little more discussion on this topic http://www.renaissancefestival.com/forums/index.php?topic=6806.0
Title: Re: Pirate vs. Knight
Post by: Dustin on May 18, 2009, 11:19:38 PM
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Title: Re: Pirate vs. Knight
Post by: TKM on May 19, 2009, 08:00:15 PM
some men may think it foolish to come into a pirate forum saying this, but i was completely disappointed by that outcome. Still, that's the episode that introduced me to Deadliest Warrior, and now I'm hooked. In fact, tonight's episode starts in just one minute and i'm preparing for it now.