Still faire related:
Jul 24, 9:00 pm
What Not to Wear
Ariel
Ariel, a 26-year old Renaissance Fair kissing wench is more comfortable playing historical characters than being her 21st Century-self. Can Stacy and Clinton convince her to ditch the costumes and take a leading role in her own fashion story?
I love Stacy and Clinton... lol they just better not bag on Faire TOO bad!
Yeah, I love 'em too but I can already hear the smarta$$ comments.....I hope they don't trash her garb! *breaking into a cold sweat at the thought of a bodice being tossed in the trash can*
lol they ought to at least appreciate the amount of money and TIME we put into this stuff!
No kidding. They keep harping about the fit of the garment. Well, HELLO, what shapes a woman's figure better than a bodice? :)
I hope she doesn't wear the any garb outside of faire, because it'll get tossed for sure!
Oh, and the thought of spending $5000 on mundane clothes also leaves me in a cold sweat, even if the money isn't mine. $5000 on garb? That would be my own personal nirvana! ;D
I surfed past this show earlier today. Not this episode but another. What caught my eye was Stacy holding a mans doublet in one hand and a medieval gown in another while the "victim" was showing off her husbands cavalier hat. Seems they like to visit teir local faire. They gave her a bit of a ribbing, and teased her about the Puss and Boots look a bit, but they were nice about it. The garb went back in the closet. :)
Quote from: Athena on July 22, 2009, 09:38:58 PM
*breaking into a cold sweat at the thought of a bodice being tossed in the trash can*
Oooh...dumpster diving! ;D
Quote from: bellevivre on July 22, 2009, 09:33:38 PM
Still faire related:
Jul 24, 9:00 pm
What Not to Wear
Ariel
Ariel, a 26-year old Renaissance Fair kissing wench is more comfortable playing historical characters than being her 21st Century-self. Can Stacy and Clinton convince her to ditch the costumes and take a leading role in her own fashion story?
I love Stacy and Clinton... lol they just better not bag on Faire TOO bad!
I've always been afraid they'd do an episode like that. Yeah, right. When they can dress reasonable, HA, or acceptable for Faire (and not in rental costumes, but oh, Taylored silk and breathable fabrics in the right colors...) then maybe. For the most part, they occasionally give good advice. But there are times they should just SHUT UP (to quote a host of the show).
My mundane wardrobe is today's fashions from top stores. And it matters not to me if I have a lot of "ren-looking stuff...Tough....
Scary thoughts.
Capt Marga
Quote from: Anna Iram on July 22, 2009, 10:13:37 PM
I surfed past this show earlier today. Not this episode but another. What caught my eye was Stacy holding a mans doublet in one hand and a medieval gown in another while the "victim" was showing off her husbands cavalier hat. Seems they like to visit teir local faire. They gave her a bit of a ribbing, and teased her about the Puss and Boots look a bit, but they were nice about it. The garb went back in the closet. :)
Uh, if the victim was actually the husband and you're talking about the footage at the beginning of the show, that's where they're showing how the "victim" can't dress. The stuff doesn't end up in the garbage until later in the show when they haul the victim off to NYC and go through their warddrobe on set.
There was a thread about this on wench.org - I understand it was a kissing wench from georgia. I don't know that anyone knew anything as a fact, but the statements were that the garb wasn't trashed as it was her "work attire" but she was given the kabash for wearing garb outside of faire.
Personally I am addicted to the show (and say Yes to the Dress) - but I have no idea why. They squash every bit of personality of all their victims and give the exact same advice to every woman, tall short, young old, squat, svelte....... and cut everyone's hair in the same style. In earlier shows, they had some folks rebel - but now a days, they all conform.... yet every Friday night me and my wine plunk down for hours and watch it....... gosh I need to get a life outside of faire season....
Oh god.... don't trash the garb!! I'll have to tune in tomorrow night.
I can't tell you the last time I watched TV. Really, I can't. But I want to watch this. What channel is it on? If someone can give me the name of the Network, I'll find it on our satellite guide. I really want to see her garb, not what she will end up with. Thanks!
It's on TLC
I think garb should be worn only at the faire or on appropriate occasions, work-wise. Just as during the period we try to portray, there was a way you dressed and certain things that were inappropriate, the same thing is true today.
Some of the people on that show NEED an intervention - the ones who wear sweat pants everywhere, really baggy stuff, patterns so loud they could overpower a jet engine, polyester EVERYTHING, and really bad/inappropriate makeup. But they're really pushy about what's "in" to the point that everyone comes out of that show looking the same.
Another thing that bothers me is that they give everyone the same generic short haircut. Some people need it, like if they haven't trimmed their hair in years or they have a foot of brown roots from a fried blonde dye job, but if someone has longer hair and it's not in bad condition but they just don't know how to style it, then they should teach them how to style it...not cut it off and be like "Oh it's easy to take care of now!" That's not true for some people - for instance, I keep my hair long (trimmed regularly) so I can straighten it if I feel like it or straighten just my bangs and pull it back in a bun if I don't feel like dealing with it; if it were short I'd have to straighten it every day or leave it curly (which I hate the look of on me).
Hah! I'll have to record it! I don't usually watch that show, but I'm curious to see what happens. I remember an episode I caught over a year ago had a girl who wore one of those clip on raccoon tails with her normal clothes.
^I saw that one. It was before I'd ever attended a faire, and was thoroughly weirded out by her tail. Of course, I do still think wearing it outside of faire is a little odd...
I'm so excited that tomorrow is my day off! I'm definitely going to have to try and catch this episode. I don't usually watch it at the normal prime-time slot, just when it's randomly on during the day.
However, I love Say Yes to the Dress! :)
Quote from: Athena on July 22, 2009, 09:38:58 PM
Yeah, I love 'em too but I can already hear the smarta$$ comments.....I hope they don't trash her garb! *breaking into a cold sweat at the thought of a bodice being tossed in the trash can*
*shudder*
Don't forget to tune in to TLC tonight at 9!
**crossing fingers that nothing bad happens to the garb :-\**
She should have never gone to these people. What a bunch of complete mule-butt (putting it nicely) MUNDANES! Yes, she has a little bit of a skin-tight size obsession, but her general style was okay. So far, she hasn't pulled out any garb for everyday wear, just Ren/gypsy/alternative wear styles. The hosts just take issue with that because she isn't cookie-cutter yuppie America.
I did not like the color they chose for her hair and when her eyebrows were dyed they looked too orange (in my opinion). As for the clothes she chose, I did like some of them and the accessories.
I never watch TV. I can't even tell you when the last TV show I watched was. But I watched this one, heart in throat, wondering if the garb would be put in the trash. Happily, it wasn't.
From what I've read here and on another forum, it sounded like the kind of show I would hate, with mean comments made by the moderators, but I didn't find it too bad. The comments weren't as awful as I thought they would be. She did look nice at the end.
Unless it's faire-related, though, I probably wouldn't watch it again.
I have to say, I enjoyed this particular episode very much and I don't think they gave her a cookie cutter look. The end result was sleek, yes, but they didn't rob her of her individuality. I love the hair! The new color is scrumptious, and they didn't cut it too short straighten it, thank God! Best of all - her lovely curves were celebrated, not camouflaged! A big thumbs up to that!
I was impressed how Ariel was treated respectfully, not like some freak who's obsessed with the past. A lot of these reality shows go for the extremes, but other than some good natured ribbing in the beginning, they didn't dwell on the fact she's into faire. I laughed when Clinton said he couldn't live in the sixteenth century because they didn't have Gucci. It was even funnier seeing him get wenched!
Best of all, they didn't touch the garb! HUZZAH!
I watched it and here's what I thought.
The beginning was interesting, then it went downhill.
The hosts did say they "loved renaissance faires" but that people should keep that life seperate from their regular life. I didn't agree entirely with the last statement.
I have watched quite a few episodes of this show before and I don't always like the hair makeovers. As an artist, sometimes I cringe at the colors and patterns they put together for an outfit. I like to match things as exactly as possible, whether in tone or in color. I usually like the makeup.
I thought there would be many gorgeous pieces of ren attire and there was only the one wench outfit shown. That was disappointing. That one rack of clothing was her entire wardrobe? *gasp*
She said 50% of her wardrobe was costume, but I didnt' see that represented on the show.
If someone lives/works in NYC, then the makeovers are appropriate. If they are a stay at home mom or work in a rural area, then I don't know where/when they would have the opportunity to dress that way. It wouldn't be very practical and no one else would be dressed that well, so they would most likely be picked on.
As for this episode, I really didn't like the hair color on her, but I did like the eye makeup. I also didn't like the hair guy saying that most people should have color in their hair. I know that's his job, but not everyone does that. I have never colored my hair and I doubt that I ever will. I like it the way it is naturally, as it looks in my pic here.
That's my opinionated artist coming out. ;)
QuoteAs for this episode, I really didn't like the hair color on her, but I did like the eye makeup. I also didn't like the hair guy saying that most people should have color in their hair. I know that's his job, but not everyone does that. I have never colored my hair and I doubt that I ever will.
I totally agree with this. If a stylist told me that I had to have my hair colored I would get out of his/her chair and never go back. I used to work in a salon and some of the stylists tried to convince me to color my hair (either shading, highlights, lowlights, perm. color). I never did. I like my hair color.
I watched, and overall, I didn't hate it. A couple of points that sort of got to me:
1. IMHO, Medieval Times Dinner & Tournament is a perfectly appropriate place to be wearing garb. When a group of us invaded last year, in garb, there were quite a few people, other than our group that I saw in garb, at least a piece or two
2. They played up some, her Faire persona, but she said specifically that by day she is an Admin Assistant, and by night she does theatre, and to me that indicates more than just faire so when she said half her wardrobe was "costume pieces" I took that to mean it might be faire or other theatre costuming. In fact, in the 'secret footage/market researcher interview' she specifically says that her belt she bought for a costume. As for only having 2 racks of clothes, I'm thinking that either she left the true garb at home, or they didn't require her to put it out, because I didn't notice it on the racks.
3. The hair, well, those of us who have watched for any period of time know that the old hair stylist would absolutely have chopped off most of her hair, and I never saw him change eyebrow color. As for the color of her hair, it was beautiful, but I think something like highlights would have added some dimension, and trust me, the upkeep on eyebrow coloring is a HUGE pain! Especially if it's a significant difference.
Quote from: Lady Renee Buchanan on July 24, 2009, 09:37:43 PM
Unless it's faire-related, though, I probably wouldn't watch it again.
They've had a few faire related episodes before actually. One of the drew me specifically to watch . . . a girl who was a faire goer, sword fighter, and actually liked some of the same tv shows I did. And we had the same name. I watched it for the irony of it, lol.
I'm glad they didn't make her too cookie cutter, but I personally loved the hair color on her! I second the dislike for the "every woman should have color in her hair" comment. If that was true, why didn't God just make us with that color? (Of course, that said, I've never dyed my hair, and while I do like the color, I would love highlights).
I think I'm going to have to wait and see more of this new guy before I decide if I like him or not.
And I'm so glad the garb didn't get trashed!
I am glad too, that the garb didn't get trashed, but I would have liked to have seen more of it! I am sure there were more pieces of garb they didn't show.
Although *I* wouldn't color my hair, I didn't mean it to sound like I am against someone else doing that. Lighter/brighter or darker/richer can be an improvement for some people, it's just not something I want to do.
One of the things I do like about that show, in general, is how they explain shapes and proportion.. how to flatter the best features of each person.
Saw it & liked it although I feel the need to say that I'm a fan of the show.
An on-line friend of mine knows her so I asked him about the garb. She did not take it to NYC as they were in the midst of season there & without it she'd have nothing to wear. I never heard them say 'Don't wear garb' (although I wish someone would have explained the difference between the words 'costume' & 'garb'). They said 'Don't wear garb where its not appropriate'. I love faire & do have a few pieces I wear in the 'mundane' world (my Kiera coat from Boss Wench comes to mind). However, I'm not going to wear my pirate fairy attire to teach 1st graders (my current job). I'm also a bellydancer & one of our rules is that you don't walk around without a cover-up in public. It helps protect you & its considered rude to draw attention to yourself when others may be performing.
Yes, an argument can be made that they repeat a lot of the same rules. However, a lot of people they get fall into one of these catagories:
-Clothes too young (mutton dressed up like lamb)
-Clothes ill-fitting in some way (too tight, big, long, short)
-clothes inappropriate for ones environment or job
There are also a lot of the same rules for dressing specific bodies. If you have a large chest, get a good bra. Don't wear mico-minis if you're over a certain age. There's even a commercial for the show where Stacy says 'Get a good jean, a pointy-toed shoe & a fitted jacket & you can have my job'.
The show does have it faults (I think they underestimate at times the heat in the Southern part of the US during the summer) but in general I think it does a pretty good job making people look & feel better. I also have a really good feeling about the new hair guy. I think we'll see lots more women be able to keep their long hair instead of having it chopped off.
cowgrrl, I completely agree. I just didn't know how to say it. Thanks for putting that into words. :-)
OMG guys . . . my sister nominated me for What Not to Wear AND THEY CALLED HER BACK!!!!!
Pray for me . . .
EEK! well, but congrats too- I wish someone would nominate me- i NEED a new wardrobe!
run like the blue blazes can't you still refuse to do it anyway?
I can . . . but it IS $5000 dollars worth of new clothes. I'll just hide my garb and hope for the best.
yes but will they even be cloths you like?
Hmmm, I don't know. My current wardrobe is bargain basement . . . all my money really does go to garb/garb accessories :D
I do need to dress better (in the mundane sense) I suppose. I'm 23, it's time to grow up.
I'm crossing my fingers for you - to get the $5000!
Everclear, if you get on there I will tell my parents I am commandeering their TV for that episode, even though I don't live there anymore. ;D
Quote from: Lady Everclear on September 24, 2009, 07:09:18 PM
Hmmm, I don't know. My current wardrobe is bargain basement . . . all my money really does go to garb/garb accessories :D
I do need to dress better (in the mundane sense) I suppose. I'm 23, it's time to grow up.
Hey not only is it $5000, it's also a FREE trip to New York. ;)
Lol I hit the "Time to grow up" phase around 23. Although I still have a couple pairs of jeans with holes in them. I will NOT give up my housework/yardwork pants!!!
You mean your suppose to grow up at some point in your life? Well no one told me and I'm gonna be 34 in 3 weeks. I guess I'm really far behind. Plus it would be hard for me to do a makeover any way. I don't want anyone to tell me how to dress or wear my hair or what color it should be.
Well, personally I say to ignore the naysayers and have fun with it. You'll end up with a new wardrobe, and a new hairstyle, and the worst that happens is that you dislike it and have to grow out your hair and get more clothes. The best that will happen is that you find a side of yourself that you didn't know existed and get even more confident in your beauty. This is a good thing.
Good luck! :)
We dressed so much more elegantly back then
so much more pride went into the style, the cut...
and men didn't start their day by tying a NOOSE around their neck
tell those two... what NOT to wear... is modern clothes!
;D