Other Royalty?

[Lord Virgil]

Lady Gwyndolyn , White flag duly noted and accepted.  GypsyQueenie threw out the first, and I agree.  With all you have done in the past with organizing the Masque and such, no one should dare try to hold a grudge against you or your fine husband.

As I stated before, I never took your groups actions as malicious in the first place.

Forgive and forget, and lets move on.  Your presence will be warmly accepted as always!  A lovely smile like yours is a rare treat, and I look forward to seeing in many more times in the coming weeks, including at MMRF this year.   

[gypsyqueenie]

History 101

In the dark ages, in the times before the sun of Glorianna shone on Hollygrove, there was a lowly shopkeep who embarked upon an exciting new line of clothes (this happened each year with a bit of a promo to follow). In order to celebrate said arrival of the new line of high end wear we orchestrated an invasion of the French court and chocolate upon the shire. It was kept around the shop until the parade went by us. It was then that we were invited to join said parade by Gibbon - at the end of the line throwing 3 Musketeer bars to the crowd and followed it straight unto the pub where we had a drink and proceeded back to the shop.

Months later in the off season what began as a promo for the shop was taken as an offense to the court at the time - which by the way had a king who wore cowboy boots and a court that interacted very little with the townsfolk or the patron of our beloved shire. The Ancients of the village may recall this but most will not. Either way lessons were learned all around and I believe the very next year our beloved Madge arrived and all the shire has been bathed in golden hues since.

Me thinks now endeth the lesson
Hatchet  et al buried - moving on...

[Briseis]

So everyone here has put in there two cents, the owners from MMRF and Managment as well as playtrons and patrons from Hollygrove, but you haven't heard what I want to say as a cast member from MMRF.

I am not on court, infact my better half and I run the jail, but as a gift to Lady Gwyn, and to show off my brand new Court Garb that Cyclone Jack and I had slaved over in secret for a week. I was in line that day "PARADING" around Holly.  For those who are saying that we came in and it through the cast and crew all off and what not, I say are these not payed ACTORS.  Has anyone ever heard the term IMPROV?  It is an acctual acting style and it happens all the time, even in broadway.  If you dont belive me I have been on stage quite a bit and my boyfriend has gone to college for acting, so your argument before you even pipe it up is void.


This Common Curtusy clause that no one knew about.  Is it common curtesy to humiliate people.  TO hurt them physiclly and then have pictures taken? No I dont think it is.  MY MOTHER WAS HURT people, I don't think you grasp the concept. The Jailers stood there until finally told off. As a Jailer at MMRF its is complete and utter **** **** that this happened.  Then to top it all off a security member came and told us, as the EMT's where there, that we needed to dispurse, that were were creating a show. I say that the Jailers of Holly MADE US THE SHOW,despite our efforts to respectfully bow out. No disrespect was meant, but at this point it is all anyone is going to see, so no reason to try and change your minds now.


MMRF is a new faire and is learning the ropes. Yes, perhaps a little more digging was needed, but it is a lesson learned. We did not take over Mayfaire, trust me I was there, working with Jim and playing Mary Tudor, we did not steal the show infact Julie who plays the Queen loved having us there, and since she is a good friend of me and my parents, whe would have said if we were a problem. So no MMRF did not do a hostile take over of Mayfaire nor did we take over Holly.


To the person who says she will assemble a court and show up to MMRF, I say I would welcome you, again it is called IMPROV! Perhaps when you do bring your court, as a blast from the past for  King Henry, I certainly would not arrest you and parade you around town like that and neither would the rest of my jailers. We at MMRF are classy and will take whatever you throw at us, because we stick together and we are a family. As a family no disrespect was ever meant, but again whether you belive that is up to you.  So Your Court would not be turned away, and would be most welcome, please bring Anne Bolyn back, I am sure her sweet cousin Cathrine Howard would be over joyed to see her cousin again, just saying that We are an Historic faire, with a splash of fantasy.  

So my rant done, MMRF waves a giant white flag, issue over.

Lets put all of this nonsence behind us and move on with the festival season, there are many weeks left and I intend to make the most of them. Have a nice week everyone.

[Katie Bookwench]

Me thinks now endeth the lesson
Hatchet  et al buried - moving on...[/i]

Methinks lesson may have ended, but doubtless the fallout has not. As much love as I bear you, GQ, I think it wrong to expect this to go away now, simply because you have spoken.

Everyone here who was offended or has an opinion about this very recent event has the right to forgive or not the incident as it befits their own conscience.  Once that is done, then we can all get to the moving on.

[L Dale Walter]

And Dale? I think this is your cue to develop a new show for KOI based on Richard III, and bring your entire cast to MMRF as well – or maybe Henry VII?  No need to call ahead –according to this post, MMRF welcome you and your actors with open arms, even if your King would confuse the bejeebus out of their patrons when they see their Henry VIII.

C'mon Tracy, you know me.  I only put on costumes when I am getting paid to do so.  I am kind of mercenary that way.  You have to remember that no one at Knights of Iron actually thinks we are the characters that we portray.  I have played everyone from Kenickie in Grease, to Porthos, The Sheriff, and the Captain of the Guard at MRF, to Oberon in Midsummer.  When the curtain closes, or the cannon fires, the costume comes off, and the character is done.  The reason Robin Hood beats the Sheriff every day is because of THE SCRIPT, not his amazing ability to take a licking and keep on ticking.

I think if everyone kept this perspective, there would probably be fewer problems and entitlement issues.

After all, the Day of Wrong is a tradition begun by someone, somewhere – so who's to say I can't start a new tradition – a second Day Of Wrong, during MMRF, and that way, I'd have a handy excuse to come as a problematic character to the cast, just because I think that it would be fun for me, get me attention, and promote my new show.

Just remember I bought all kinds of stuff out of Star Trek: The Experience when it closed in Las Vegas.  I have 2 Klingon uniforms, 5 Ferengi costumes, a ton of Starfleet stuff, and 3 Borg masks.

It could happen...
LDW

[gypsyqueenie]

oooh for the Halloweenie Party -Wedge can do the Ferengi and Austin and I can do the Borg - we must remember with Wedge to rub the ears - teeehehehehehe

[Katie Bookwench]

C'mon Tracy, you know me.  I only put on costumes when I am getting paid to do so. 

Oh, I totally get that. I was just trying to make a point about bringing characters to a show that directly conflicted with the show's established characters.

Like I had said earlier, you're well aware that bringing King Richard in for the final act at MIRF would be impossible.

I think if everyone kept this perspective, there would probably be fewer problems and entitlement issues.

You'll get no argument from me there.  

Just remember I bought all kinds of stuff out of Star Trek: The Experience when it closed in Las Vegas.  I have 2 Klingon uniforms, 5 Ferengi costumes, a ton of Starfleet stuff, and 3 Borg masks.

It could happen...
LDW

Trolls, Ferengis, Klingons I can deal with - both in and out of character -- because they don't undermine the established show. Simple enough. But I know you understand what I'm saying, so I needen't preach to the choir.

I think you'd make an excellent Klingon, actually. ...

[Shadbolt8]

I'm confused by the Rantpologies.

The white flag was waved, let it drop. Both sides agreed multiple posts ago to just let it go, yet everytime I log in another Rantpology from someone who somehow feels wronged pops up.

Deep breath let it go.

A mistake was made, everyone seemed to have agreed to walk away and call it good, and then someone pops on to toss another gallon of upsetoline on the fire.

Call it lesson learned and do better next time.

[nliedel]

Lady Gwyndolin, I'm still your friend and still care about you. I have talked to Jim Sarge about what happened last year, but other management? No. He witnessed it and it was left to him what to do with it. It was one incident in an otherwise lovely, but COLD fall day.


I do think courtesy was broken and more forethought should have gone into the whole process. As for the jailers, they are supposed to respect health issues and I am positive the powers that be are reading this and making notes.

I don't want hurt on any level, but I ran into a bunch of you and you know me, not you LG, and you turned your heads like I was not there. That stung and did seem to me to be rather a tad sneaky. It put a negative face on it for me from the get-go.

White flags have been waved, but as someone wiser than I said, it's going to be up to the individuals that were bothered by this how to deal with it. It was out of time and confusing to patrons (forgive my spelling from earlier, btw, I usually make more sense). It's not me that matters at Festival. I'm a cog and, in the end, how I feel matters not one whit. It's what the patrons and playtrons thought that matters. Who is really in charge at HG? Why is her Majesty's father there? Dressed in white...still a faux pas, but not a bad one. Dressed respenantly in royal purple? Confuddling to say the very least.

Robin Hood is a play within a show. Koi is not cast, rather a fanciful entertainment and it is handled wonderfully. I actually thought it was a dorky idea at first. I was darn wrong and proud to admit it. Besides, I like spitting after I pass the Prince. Makes my day shiny and bright.

Again, if you had contacted management, promotions...I don't know, but it might be different. I just can't do MMRF this year. Not after being hurt last year and not after this. Maybe next year would be better for me. I want to hope so. It was a bad idea and that no one stood up and said, let's think this through...it bothers me. Again LG, I care about you a great deal. You have always been very kind to me and I hope I to you. I suspect you participating shocked me deeply, because you seem to think things through so well.

I've spoken my piece and yes, I am loyal to MirF. They've tolerated a lot from me. They've made me a home and gifted me with friends I adore. It's like your first close friend. I appreciate my Festival more than I can say. Stupidly loyal? Maybe so, but with my hectic life, I'm allowed a little dog-like devotion to people who gave a middle age chick a chance.

[Katie Bookwench]

The white flag was waved, let it drop. Both sides agreed multiple posts ago to just let it go, yet everytime I log in another Rantpology from someone who somehow feels wronged pops up.

Deep breath let it go.

A mistake was made, everyone seemed to have agreed to walk away and call it good, and then someone pops on to toss another gallon of upsetoline on the fire.

Call it lesson learned and do better next time.

Dude....you is SO not Klingon material. 

[L Dale Walter]

Robin Hood is a play within a show. Koi is not cast, rather a fanciful entertainment and it is handled wonderfully. I actually thought it was a dorky idea at first. I was darn wrong and proud to admit it. Besides, I like spitting after I pass the Prince. Makes my day shiny and bright.

First, thank you. 

We have seen a huge change in the attitude of the cast over the past 3 weekends.  I don't know what kind of demons people had been told that we at Knights of Iron were, but I am glad to see that once people actually met my cast, and saw the show, that they realized that they may have been wrong.

Second: How come we keep getting mentioned in this thread? 

Knights of Iron had nothing at all to do with MMRF's cast coming to MiRF.  No KOI character EVER came to MiRF when we were not under contract.  No musketeers, no pirates, no Robin Hood appeared during 2006, 2007, nor 2008.  We did come as Trolls one year, but that is something different entirely.  I made it clear to all of my team, and the SLRF people that came as well, that they were to "Yes and" WHATEVER you are given, to NOT interfere with cast in any way, and to support the reality of MiRF.  We were all arrested as well, and made a huge bit out of it, claiming "racial profiling" and then ridiculous legal claims when QE showed up.  I tried to invoke the "Magna Carta", and when that didn't work, "Prima Note".  On that failing we tried "Linguini with Clam Sauce", and so it went...

I visited KCRF in 2005 with my Musketeers upon invitation of Jim Stamberger, the ED at KCRF.  The first thing we did was to meet with the cast and establish boundaries on how this was going to work.  We had a GREAT time and played with everyone from the Fops, to their Prostitutes Guild (yes they have one, and it works...).  We MC'ed smoker, were guests at the joust, and judged a costume contest.  Basically we said "We are here, what would YOU like us to do?"

Subsequently, we have a standing invitation to visit any time we would like.

Hopefully the MMRF crew learned something from this.  Like I tell my crew at KOI all the time "There are good ways to do things, and bad ways to do things.  Often the ACTION is the same, but the RESULT can differ greatly."

Again, your mileage may vary...

L. Dale Walter
Director
Knights of Iron

[L Dale Walter]

Dude....you is SO not Klingon material. 

Or maybe he is.  A Klingon proverb says:

pujwI' HIvlu'chugh quvbe'lu'

(There is no honour in attacking the weak)

The flag of surrender has been raised.  The battle over.

Qapla'
LDW

[Shadbolt8]

[/quote]

Dude....you is SO not Klingon material. 

[/quote]

Maybe ...maybe not...I declined to publish one of my world famous rants and instead edited down to what you saw....

I'm more of a Romulan anyway

[L Dale Walter]

I'm more of a Romulan anyway

Crap, and me without a Romulan Costume for ya...

HOWEVER, there is a Romulan headpiece on Ebay from ST:TE right now...

Just sayin,

LDW

[Margaret]

Dale and Mr. Shadbolt8,

Personally I don't care if you show up as Romulans or Klingons.

Just as long as you are wearing the skin tight spandex jumpsuit uniforms of the Piccard era.

Please.

Pretty please with sugar on it.