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Started by LadyStitch, April 12, 2010, 10:03:17 AM

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Al-Nimer

Quote from: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 06:08:01 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 01:47:34 PM
The "Dr. Who" gang were quickly removed from the parade

I was waiting for this to come up, and knew it would.. and absolutely wanted to apologize to everyone and explain what went on since we absolutely didn't want to step on toes. (We were just there for the humor sake of the Doctor and his often shown love of Human history!)

While the group has a few regular faire goers (myself and perhaps 2 others) we weren't there or, in my case, too tired from staying up all night sewing to particularly notice where we were headed. The one other rennie (a rather vocal one at that) told the bulk of them that we had been given permission. A few noted this as off the norm but he persisted. Therefore, compounded with a huge group of 20 or so being directed by a much older, supposedly more established faire goer, went in.

The moment it was made clear otherwise however, we vacated. I'm terribly sorry for the occurrence and hope no one thinks less of the doctor who folk who came out just for a bit of fun. It absolutely wasn't the intent and I only wish I'd been a bit more aware of going ons at that point to stop things from happening- but what happened has happened and all I can do is profusely apologize. Because lord knows I'll be at faire in regular garb and would hate for the others to think that the rest of them were acting on anything more than bad information given to a load of newbies from someone who had presented himself as a respected playtron and mature enough to know that things like that shouldn't have happened and that by doing such was giving a whole bunch of people a reputation that is, as we know now, as off as his.

So once again- I'm sorry for any bad impression that was left with the occurrence. I assure you that the bulk (and by bulk I mean all of them except for said fellow who lead them all astray) had been given bad information and are extremely sorry for any stepping on toes.

Now it makes more sense.... thanks for that explanation ... I know who you are referring to in your post... now I know why you and the others were not responding to his call to come back.... he wanted to "follow the parade'.... ergo not actually being "in the parade'...but you guys kept walking away. Kudos to you!

Huzzah to you and the others..... you looked great and I respect you for respecting the wishes of the parade commissioner.

Not a problem! I love the faire, the cast, and all the relationships I've built there and would absolutely hate to loose that just through one regretful occurrence.  I honestly didn't even hear him yelling to come back- the moment I'd realized where we'd headed and what he wanted us to do, I steered who I could away from the line. I hope everyone will be as understanding as you are about the event, and I thank you for accepting the apology. It's a small but important relief and I'm sure when I let the others know that there's some clarification out there for us. We're in the process of emailing Dan an apology because, while maybe it's not so big a deal as be required, it's a formal nicety that too few people don't act on anymore.

And thank you for the compliment! I worked hard on a good many of those costumes and while certainly not period it's a novelty that general fans of the television show can enjoy the one or two times we'll take them out to faire. The beauty of Doctor who is, within a few exceptions, those who don't know what it is would probably just see most the outfits as strange but normal clothing.  Except in cases of the boorish sixth doctor.

I absolutely loved seeing all the various incarnations of the Doctor & his companions!  You did an awesome job on those costumes and I hope to see them again...maybe on the Day of Wrong?  My wife (cowgrrl) was very sorry she was not there to see them...
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!" - Adam, Mythbusters

Amaya

Quote from: Al-Nimer on April 12, 2010, 11:21:46 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 06:08:01 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 12, 2010, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 01:47:34 PM
The "Dr. Who" gang were quickly removed from the parade

I was waiting for this to come up, and knew it would.. and absolutely wanted to apologize to everyone and explain what went on since we absolutely didn't want to step on toes. (We were just there for the humor sake of the Doctor and his often shown love of Human history!)

While the group has a few regular faire goers (myself and perhaps 2 others) we weren't there or, in my case, too tired from staying up all night sewing to particularly notice where we were headed. The one other rennie (a rather vocal one at that) told the bulk of them that we had been given permission. A few noted this as off the norm but he persisted. Therefore, compounded with a huge group of 20 or so being directed by a much older, supposedly more established faire goer, went in.

The moment it was made clear otherwise however, we vacated. I'm terribly sorry for the occurrence and hope no one thinks less of the doctor who folk who came out just for a bit of fun. It absolutely wasn't the intent and I only wish I'd been a bit more aware of going ons at that point to stop things from happening- but what happened has happened and all I can do is profusely apologize. Because lord knows I'll be at faire in regular garb and would hate for the others to think that the rest of them were acting on anything more than bad information given to a load of newbies from someone who had presented himself as a respected playtron and mature enough to know that things like that shouldn't have happened and that by doing such was giving a whole bunch of people a reputation that is, as we know now, as off as his.

So once again- I'm sorry for any bad impression that was left with the occurrence. I assure you that the bulk (and by bulk I mean all of them except for said fellow who lead them all astray) had been given bad information and are extremely sorry for any stepping on toes.

Now it makes more sense.... thanks for that explanation ... I know who you are referring to in your post... now I know why you and the others were not responding to his call to come back.... he wanted to "follow the parade'.... ergo not actually being "in the parade'...but you guys kept walking away. Kudos to you!

Huzzah to you and the others..... you looked great and I respect you for respecting the wishes of the parade commissioner.

Not a problem! I love the faire, the cast, and all the relationships I've built there and would absolutely hate to loose that just through one regretful occurrence.  I honestly didn't even hear him yelling to come back- the moment I'd realized where we'd headed and what he wanted us to do, I steered who I could away from the line. I hope everyone will be as understanding as you are about the event, and I thank you for accepting the apology. It's a small but important relief and I'm sure when I let the others know that there's some clarification out there for us. We're in the process of emailing Dan an apology because, while maybe it's not so big a deal as be required, it's a formal nicety that too few people don't act on anymore.

And thank you for the compliment! I worked hard on a good many of those costumes and while certainly not period it's a novelty that general fans of the television show can enjoy the one or two times we'll take them out to faire. The beauty of Doctor who is, within a few exceptions, those who don't know what it is would probably just see most the outfits as strange but normal clothing.  Except in cases of the boorish sixth doctor.

I absolutely loved seeing all the various incarnations of the Doctor & his companions!  You did an awesome job on those costumes and I hope to see them again...maybe on the Day of Wrong?  My wife (cowgrrl) was very sorry she was not there to see them...

Thanks! The plan is to go back as doctors sometime in May- mostly because I had been too tired to really enjoy the faire-which is why the fifth doctor (myself of course!) had been asleep practically anywhere we stopped. So sometime mid-may, we'll make a return trip. Likely smaller, but still a return! Before then I'll be out and about in my usual gypsy garb.

Laird Fraser of Lovatt

Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 07:03:49 PM
Everyone please take note of my new avatar.... Bonnie makes a very good point... the Rendezvous weekend is also the Scottish weekend.... and I am Scottish so I should be kilted that weekend.

I'm still weird and bald.... and I will still serve free mimosas at my Toyota 4-Runner with the Scottish flag....

Maybe I just wont scare as many children that weekend now.



Good luck not scaring little kids, brother... lol.  :D
Cha togar m' fhearg gun dìoladh
Alba gu brath
Laird of Dunans Castle
Warrior Poet/Loki God

dleighb

As my husband said when I told him about the Dr. Who group, "Of all the sci-fi characters to show up at a Renaissance Faire, Dr. Who is the one who best belongs there. At least he is a time traveler." That being said, thank you and the other members of your group for stepping out of the parade when you realized the reality of the situation. It would have been confusing to those spectators who were unfamiliar with Dr. Who and his companions. Also, thank you for the explanation as I had heard the story and was curious about it.

captmarga

Quote from: Sir Moostifer on April 12, 2010, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: Nicolas-Antoine on April 12, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
Yeah - if it was only cast it would be a very small parade!!! ;) ;) You'd be surprised how many folks that look and act and participate with the cast actually aren't cast. That's one thing that that I think makes Scarby very unique and puts the faire a notch above other faires.



looked as if the numbers were low for the Royal guard compared to years past...


'Tis true.  The Guard (Green sashes, which are playtrons) always fluctuate in numbers.  This year we have one who is Squiring on the lists.  We lost four to that great Faire in the Sky.  Their untimely deaths left a hole in the ranks that can never quite be filled.  One of them was my own husband.  I also left the Guard, once more to return to Cast.   That is six of the regulars who attended nearly every day of Faire, some of us for the past several years (and beyond).

There are Guards who are Scots and Scots who come back to Guard.  One day forces are opposing, the next joined in Legion. 

It's all in the spirit of fun, and being a part of the Magic.

Whether you choose to wear a green sash, a plaid across your shoulder, or avoid either group is up to you... but these groups are unique and special to Scarborough. 

Vive Faire!

Capt Marga (She who is now Jofranka Whispersteppe)
Corp Capt Marga, Dame Den Mother, Scarborough Royal Guard.  Keeper of the Costume Closet.  Artist, Rennie, Etc, etc, etc

cowgrrl

Quote from: Amaya on April 13, 2010, 12:10:03 AM

Thanks! The plan is to go back as doctors sometime in May- mostly because I had been too tired to really enjoy the faire-which is why the fifth doctor (myself of course!) had been asleep practically anywhere we stopped. So sometime mid-may, we'll make a return trip. Likely smaller, but still a return! Before then I'll be out and about in my usual gypsy garb.

PLEASE not the weekend of May 22nd!!  We will not be there & I'm dying to see the 'Whos' in person. 

Amaya

Quote from: cowgrrl on April 13, 2010, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: Amaya on April 13, 2010, 12:10:03 AM

Thanks! The plan is to go back as doctors sometime in May- mostly because I had been too tired to really enjoy the faire-which is why the fifth doctor (myself of course!) had been asleep practically anywhere we stopped. So sometime mid-may, we'll make a return trip. Likely smaller, but still a return! Before then I'll be out and about in my usual gypsy garb.

PLEASE not the weekend of May 22nd!!  We will not be there & I'm dying to see the 'Whos' in person. 

I'll be sure to steer us all clear of that weekend, then!

dleighb-Glad to explain. I definitely agree- perhaps, if the setting was actually in the UK it'd be something that would belong but as it's not the same level of phenomenon here in the states.. it really doesn't have a place in the parade. I'm just relieved to be able to be able to explain the occurrence and clear the air.

cowgrrl

So today I noticed another 'infiltration' of the parade.  I was sitting in front of the stage where Arsene & the German Twins perform.  Everything was pretty standard (gypsies, bellydancers. Musketeers, etc) when all of a sudden I notice a random bellydancer & a Lolita in a plaid dress.  I can't remember where they were exactly but it was after the vendors but before the nobility. 

After Al-Nimer got home (he was performing today) I asked him if he saw a Lolita in the parade.  He told me the bellydancer chick tried to get in with the dancers he performs with but he managed to block her.  I guess they found another way to become part of the 'act'.  He's going to mention it to the dancers & drummers he performs with so that if they try to get in again he can block them.

What is it about the parade that makes people think they can just join in?  I'd never even think of doing that.

Lord Glycon

The old alliance with the French makes sense so the French should be marching with the Scots. Why they ever marched with the English remains a mystery.

SirRichardBear

Because in 1533 England held a small part of France and the idea was that the Frence who walked with the SRG were from that part of France held by the English.


    In real world terms they did so because they perfer to walk instead of marching with drawn weapons so it made more sense for them to walk with the English.  Logistic you know.  Even this seaons you notice the only real difference is that they are between the QOH and SRG instead of being behind the English they still walk not march.   Remember the parade must be run is such a way that it completes the route in half hour so you have to have groups that do simular things in the same general section of the parade.
Beware of him that is slow to anger: He is angry for something, and will not be pleased for nothing.
Benjamin Franklin

Wolfhawker

I am in Merlin's wonderful movie.  I walk off screen at 1:27l; 3:21; 7:17; 8:17.  I am wearing a TX Blue Bonnet Kilt with a Brown Rob Roy.

I did not mean to start this reply as a bragging but to indicate to my new 'family' that how special my playton treat me and make me feel at home. I have grownt to know several person on this location in persona and this forum allows me to be close to them during 'off time'.

I want to thank the R/F community for taking me into thier ranks and allowing me to attempt to be one with them.

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AKA
William "The Hawk" Kerr
Na Fir Dileas
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iain robb

#41
Quote from: Merlin on April 12, 2010, 12:01:44 PM
Quote from: Sir Moostifer on April 12, 2010, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: Nicolas-Antoine on April 12, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
Yeah - if it was only cast it would be a very small parade!!! ;) ;) You'd be surprised how many folks that look and act and participate with the cast actually aren't cast. That's one thing that that I think makes Scarby very unique and puts the faire a notch above other faires.


And on the subject of the parade, did anyone catch that the Musketeers are now marching with the Scots and guarding Queen Margaret and not marching with the Royal Guard?

looked as if the numbers were low for the Royal guard compared to years past...
also noticed heavy recruiting from both the Scots and the Royal Guard this year... hmmm, perhaps a change in the tide?
Sir Moostifer..... Reaper got a great shot of you.... you also showed up in my video ... still uploading it to my YouTube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/stunts4film?feature=mhw5#p/u

OK, here's something funny. At least, it was funny to me.

I'm watching the video, and I realize as the Scots come parading past, that this is Sunday's parade, so there are no shots of me marching with the Scots. I watched Sunday's parade. (Because of course, it's all about me.)

Then I realize, "That looks like the place I watched the parade from," and lo and behold, there are my wife and I in the background for almost the whole of one of the parade scenes, starting about 1:52. I'm on the right in the mostly red kilt with a black vest, boots and hat and tan shirt. My wife is to my left in mostly green. Sorry we didn't wave!

Nicolas-Antoine

Quote from: SirRichardBear on May 17, 2010, 09:34:46 PM
Because in 1533 England held a small part of France and the idea was that the Frence who walked with the SRG were from that part of France held by the English.


    In real world terms they did so because they perfer to walk instead of marching with drawn weapons so it made more sense for them to walk with the English.  Logistic you know.  Even this seaons you notice the only real difference is that they are between the QOH and SRG instead of being behind the English they still walk not march.   Remember the parade must be run is such a way that it completes the route in half hour so you have to have groups that do simular things in the same general section of the parade.

But the real reason is both the Scots and English are trying to get a hold of our time travel technology that allowed us to travel from 1661 to 1533... shhhhhh

Ronald the Bald

Nicolas-Antoine,

You might just notice that the Scots are dressed more for 1661 than 1533. It is difficult somethings living in a time warp.

How did this happen? I blame the tachyon particles expelled after eating haggis creating an instability in the time/space continuum. French time travel technology, although just as effective, requires a much higher level of technology. 

captmarga

Quote from: Lord Glycon on May 17, 2010, 05:38:26 PM
The old alliance with the French makes sense so the French should be marching with the Scots. Why they ever marched with the English remains a mystery.

Because that's where the parade co-ordinator wants them???

Capt Marga
Corp Capt Marga, Dame Den Mother, Scarborough Royal Guard.  Keeper of the Costume Closet.  Artist, Rennie, Etc, etc, etc