Renaissance Festival... grr!

[Sir Ironhead]

ok- again back to the SCA- the range of correctness falls on the person I have seen some amazing sword work by folks who are translating manuels of the time period and using them

we use rattan sticks because we hit full force and with steel you could really hurt someone. we don't hit below the knees because the risk of breaking someones leg is really high! again you don't want to send anyone to the clinic

That and the fact that all the fighting you see at faire is choreographed and the SCA is not.  If you are a fencer (AKA light fighter) you are using a steel sword and are actively stabbing your opponent with it.

And no, I don't get the rennie vs. SCA thing either.

[Demetrius]

So, the question is- are we HC? (historically correct)

I don't know. I am.

I just heard a commercial on the radio for the Renaissance Festival and they announced that along with Knights, Royalty, food, stage acts, etc., is the historically accurate Demetrius, who always tells the truth. 

[Hey- Arent You?]

Interesting SCA note: did you guys know that britan uses SCA as the combatants when training their police in riot control?

[Demetrius]

Interesting SCA note: did you guys know that britan uses SCA as the combatants when training their police in riot control?

Ah, but in France they choose to use hamsters...

[Adriana Rose]

Interesting SCA note: did you guys know that britan uses SCA as the combatants when training their police in riot control?

well they are a bunch of nuts!

[Tanda]

Interesting SCA note: did you guys know that britan uses SCA as the combatants when training their police in riot control?

OH. My. God. I totally want to move to Britain and join the SCA now....

[Bahlien]

To be historically correct, means that we're portraying the era accurately. As far as garb goes, yes we are historically correct, in appearance (Which is really what counts).  As far as architecture goes.... it's fairly close.  Food, some of it would be, the rest is all the wrong time period. 

The question really should be, does it matter if it's Historically Accurate?  To a certain level, yes, having appropriate garb is good. Who cares what kind of food thats served so long as its good and no one gets sick off it.

Should everyone be required to take a professional level history course, and then a professional acting course to properly portray whats being attempted? No.  Knowing what it's about helps, if thats what you care about.

[marchaunt]

As far as garb goes, yes we are historically correct, in appearance (Which is really what counts). 

Emmm- as a costumer who does way to much research that is only partly true- with only a few folks who are anal- I mean as well researched. I believe in the 10 foot rule but we still have some on cast that are way off (but fun and fantasy and cool for their thing- just not HA)

I won't nitpick but at the same time I can not say that the garb as a whole is HA

[Adriana Rose]

To be historically correct, means that we're portraying the era accurately. As far as garb goes, yes we are historically correct, in appearance (Which is really what counts).  As far as architecture goes.... it's fairly close.  Food, some of it would be, the rest is all the wrong time period. 

The question really should be, does it matter if it's Historically Accurate?  To a certain level, yes, having appropriate garb is good. Who cares what kind of food thats served so long as its good and no one gets sick off it.

Should everyone be required to take a professional level history course, and then a professional acting course to properly portray whats being attempted? No.  Knowing what it's about helps, if thats what you care about.

For goddess sake that is just too freaking nit picky!

[Zoë]

As far as garb goes, yes we are historically correct, in appearance (Which is really what counts). 

Emmm- as a costumer who does way to much research that is only partly true- with only a few folks who are anal- I mean as well researched. I believe in the 10 foot rule but we still have some on cast that are way off (but fun and fantasy and cool for their thing- just not HA)

I won't nitpick but at the same time I can not say that the garb as a whole is HA

I had hoped not to get in on this whole thing but I have to agree with this.  I know we only have a few pirates on cast, but those that we have are a few hundred years off of the Golden Age of Piracy, if that in fact is what they're going for.  I mean, look at Captain Jack (not a jab at you Capn, just the character), he's supposed to be in the what, mid-1800s?  Waaaay off for what we're supposed to be portraying.  Then again, I guess maybe that gets into more of the "fantasy" aspect, I'm not sure what it's boundaries are exactly.  I read some literary guidelines the other day for a strictly "fantasy" website that said if pirates were the only "fantasy" aspect of your work, it's not fantasy.  So I guess it can go either way. 

That's my little comment, anyway.

[Capt Gabriela Fullpepper]

  I mean, look at Captain Jack (not a jab at you Capn, just the character), he's supposed to be in the what, mid-1800s?  Waaaay off for what we're supposed to be portraying.  That's my little comment, anyway.
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Actually I believe CapnJack aka Jack Sparrow is from the pirate heyday of about the 1640's to the early 1700's most likely 1670 there abouts. So not so far off only a about 50 to 100 years.

Pirates have been around as long as man has sailed. Queen Elizabeth I had dealings with pirates with Grace O'Malley, Sir Francis Drake and Sir Walter Raligh (sp) Now they were more Privateer than pirates, the Spanish sure called them pirates as they attacked ships and cities in the New World to take it's gold in the name of England. This caused the Spanish to almost go to war with England, and may have been a factor in them seding their fleet to invade. That and Bess taking Mary's head.

By the 1800's Port Royal or part of it, was sitting under the water. A major earthquake sunk part of the city in I believe the 1690's. By the 1800's Steam power was very common amoung sailing vessels especially military. By the Mid 1800's tricorns were out of fashion unless you where in the south of the US as some southern men had tricorns during the American Civil War, but they were not a common thing. Flint locks we also becoming out of use. Cap-n-ball were the common weapons both for pistol and rifle.

So While Jack maybe a wee bit off course, pirates were a part of the Renaissance. But your point is a good one. My one and only issue with pirates at faire... There are to many and not enough wenches, poor, middle class and nobles. Lets have more of those even if they are playton.

[Adriana Rose]

As it stands for the playtrons there are a good few that look fabbo but then there are others that really need to cover it up! I have seen a trend of the playtrons wearing less...

There are more who are dressing as pirates and a few that are Wenches ect.

[Capt Gabriela Fullpepper]

Not to mention many of the barbarians wearing even less.

[Francisco Paula]

Hey less can be a good thing SOMETIMES. 

[Capt Gabriela Fullpepper]

Hey less can be a good thing SOMETIMES. 

Well yes, if it's hotter than heck out.

I for one, don't think I could EVER dress half naked as a barbarian wench or even a pirate one at that. I'm to self concious of my body. I'd look like a female Hanz and Franz

I'm here to PUMP... You up!