Let The Countdown Begin!

[Breandan]

Sweet! And the only real difference between simunitions and paintball insofar as construction is concerned is to use slightly heavier materials (i.e., no thin drywall). Simunitions only hit about twice as hard as a higher-end paintball, so most of the preps they will have done will likely be enough. Main thing is the gear worn- body armour, full face mask, groin cup, etc.

[Rani Zemirah]

bah! just bat your eyelashes at Fraser and the lads, they may be tough guys, but they melt like butter when it comes to the ladies


*raises hand* also guilty of that >.<

Well... as long as those ladies are behaving like ladies, that is!  When they behave like... something else... then they are generally treated like... something else.  

[Rani Zemirah]

Sweet! And the only real difference between simunitions and paintball insofar as construction is concerned is to use slightly heavier materials (i.e., no thin drywall). Simunitions only hit about twice as hard as a higher-end paintball, so most of the preps they will have done will likely be enough. Main thing is the gear worn- body armour, full face mask, groin cup, etc.

Well, from what I understand, Reball is near the top in the industry, so they're starting out well... and they've got 15,500 sf of air-conditioned space, divided into 4 separate arenas, so it's not exactly a small operation.  I'm sure if there's a demand for the Sims, and their insurance will cover it, they'll probably incorporate it at some point.  The fact that 3/4's of their facility is devoted to a simulated urban environment would seem to indicate that they're serious about the tactical training aspect for LEO groups, but they're geared for private parties, as well. 

Oh, and the black light field with the neon glow balls just sounds like too much fun!!!   


So... what else would draw you to this type of facility?

[crashbot]

I swear on pain of death that I will find one of you guys the next time he passes out in the privy, you have my word.

Last time I played paintball, I point blanked some kid in the pumpkin and got tossed off the course.

[Rani Zemirah]

I swear on pain of death that I will find one of you guys the next time he passes out in the privy, you have my word.

Last time I played paintball, I point blanked some kid in the pumpkin and got tossed off the course.

Uhhh... you're not supposed to try to REALLY kill them, you know...    

*you're supposed to save that for the tactical courses*


Oh, and because I just quoted you here, your word is now saved for posterity!  We'll be reminding you of this promise... 

[crashbot]

Force of habit I guess. Probably lucky I didnt double tap him. I was going for the flag, he jumped out and hesitated, I didnt  


Oh, I am serious. If he passes out in the privy, I will trek for the crossroads at row 11, where the privys are, to the ends of the land of trf to find someone.

[Merlin the Elder]

I can tell you for sure that I won't be at the TRF campsite. Abuse of old farts is a felony, but I'm not about to tempt anyone.

[Rani Zemirah]

Merlin, no one would dream of abusing you, my friend!  It's only those who consistently ASK for abuse who are granted their wish...   

Besides, I'm sure you and your "youthful" friends managed to pull all the really good pranks on each other, already!    No, no, don't bother to deny it... I can just tell by that mischievous tone you so frequently employ!   

You'll at least have to come out for dinner and a bit of moderate Loki tasting!  Only moderate, though, because you will be driving, and you will have Nim with you.  And believe me, all the lads (and lasses) will be minding their P's & Q's... I promise. 


Crash, I'm sure by then you'll have at least one cell number that you can text to say "GAME ON"!!!  Then just include the row number, and someone will likely show up to see that's it's all recorded for posterity! 

And Merlin, rest assured that while I would never personally condone any sort of privie "road trip"... I certainly wouldn't be above slapping a bit of woad on some irresponsibly drunken youngster, putting a bit of urinal cake in their pocket (for olfactory effect, of course) and telling them when they woke up that they had been in a "privie accident"...      

[haleyileaha]

bah! just bat your eyelashes at Fraser and the lads, they may be tough guys, but they melt like butter when it comes to the ladies


*raises hand* also guilty of that >.<

Well... as long as those ladies are behaving like ladies, that is!  When they behave like... something else... then they are generally treated like... something else.  

Well I'm good at eyelashes batting and although I like to have fun I like to think I'm on the right side of the lady line lol. So I think maybe ill be safe.

[Rani Zemirah]

LOL  Well, with these guys it's not too difficult to stay on the right side... there's a pretty wide margin of what's considered "ladylike" at Faire!     

Faire flirting can be LOTS of fun... 

[Sir Martin]

LOL  Well, with these guys it's not too difficult to stay on the right side... there's a pretty wide margin of what's considered "ladylike" at Faire!     

Faire flirting can be LOTS of fun... 

Well spoken . . . m'lady!   

[Breandan]

Rani- one of the major things we have been trying to find- and have to drive all the freakin' way down near Corpus Christi to get, currently- is a training facility that will allow operators in and let us train OUR way. All of the lads (and one lass) on my team are military veterans, half of them are also LE (SWAT/ERT), and all of us have years of experience in executive protection, PSDs and force protection. The last thing we want is some gunstore cowboy lecturing us and trying to tell us how to do things. If we use CAR stance, its because it worked for us in Iraq and A-stan when doing room-clearing and convoy duty. If we have a tight double-stack, its because we got used to working in extremely tight quarters where CQB sometimes turned into hand-to-hand (freakin' active shooter on VBC last year was a nightmare, VERY tight spaces), and having a tight grouping gives us a much better defensive posture. We get really ticked off when some beergutted firearms "expert" (i.e., guy who works at a gun range/gun store who reads Shotgun News and Rifleman, but has never been in a real firefight his entire life, and his "expertise" is based on book-knowledge instead of real-world experience) or gunstore cowby (the former, but add a seriously arrogant and superior attitude and a propensity to lecture people in a condescending manner) steps into our training sessions and starts trying to give pointers, dictate how we should do things, or mock our techniques. If they will let us loose in the facility and stay out of our business, that would be a major boost.

Secondly, but related, is a blessed lack of chauvinism. Tiffaní is one of our operators, and as a former model who barely breaks the 5' mark, I cannot begin to tell you the crap she has dealt with at gun ranges and stores. Jim Pruett about got cold-cocked by her for an incident in his shop- Tiff asked to look at a Springfield XD40, and he popped off with a patronizing "Aww, lil lady, you don't need that, that's not the kind of gun for someone like you. Here, lemme show you something more your size" and breaks out this little .380 purse-warmer. She is a former MP and an operator (we met through Black Eagle where she was my partner) who has been under fire more times than half of HPD, outshoots SWAT members (she qualified Hawkeye twice with an M9 and M4), not some "lil lady" who needs a dinky pocket pistol. If they can respect the fact that our female operators are to be treated as operators, not dainty flowers, then we're good. Sorry for the rant, STILL irks me three years later.

Other than that, price

[Merlin the Elder]

...
And Merlin, rest assured that while I would never personally condone any sort of privie "road trip"... I certainly wouldn't be above slapping a bit of woad on some irresponsibly drunken youngster, putting a bit of urinal cake in their pocket (for olfactory effect, of course) and telling them when they woke up that they had been in a "privie accident"...      

I would have to laugh at that one ... but me ... mischievous? ... MOI? ...well, DUH!


Breandan, My dad and I used to have a gun store many years ago. Treating a woman like that wouldn't happen because we didn't treat people like that. Differentiation by sex made no sense. We had female customers that could shoot rings around our male customers. They could be funny sometimes. One regular came in before Christmas one year (mid-80s) looking for something for her husband's gift. She was torn between a pair of top-grade Browning Superposed O/U shotguns we had—about $12,000—and a hot-air balloon which we didn't sell.  Laugh at a woman customer?? HELL NO!

[crashbot]

I work with a few beergutted bloviators. Got one guy whos cube looks like a surplus store, but never served a day. I call it Call of Duty syndrome. Just because you are good at a video game, have the right to purchase firearms and the cash to attend a unvetted "tactical" class that is likely taught by some ex military "expert" (read: clerk) does not make you an expert on CQB, or any B for that matter.

him "i wouda done it this way"
me "you ever been shot at"
him "well, no, but I went to the weekend tactical rifle/shotgun glass at X gun range..."
me "then shut up"

[Laird Fraser of Lovatt]

Rani- one of the major things we have been trying to find- and have to drive all the freakin' way down near Corpus Christi to get,
Secondly, but related, is a blessed lack of chauvinism. Tiffaní is one of our operators, and as a former model who barely breaks the 5' mark, I cannot begin to tell you the crap she has dealt with at gun ranges and stores. Jim Pruett about got cold-cocked by her for an incident in his shop- Tiff asked to look at a Springfield XD40, and he popped off with a patronizing "Aww, lil lady, you don't need that, that's not the kind of gun for someone like you. Here, lemme show you something more your size" and breaks out this little .380 purse-warmer. She is a former MP and an operator (we met through Black Eagle where she was my partner) who has been under fire more times than half of HPD, outshoots SWAT members (she qualified Hawkeye twice with an M9 and M4), not some "lil lady" who needs a dinky pocket pistol. If they can respect the fact that our female operators are to be treated as operators, not dainty flowers, then we're good. Sorry for the rant, STILL irks me three years later.

Other than that, price

Jim Pruett is unmitigated pr*ck.  He won't special order ANYTHING for you and I've seen him cuss out customers when they want him to do title transfers and not buy the weapon from him.  I'll never spend a red cent in his shop, EVER.  Now, Tomball Pawn has a great selection and will order whatever you want.  I ordered my XD .45 Tactical from them at 1400, over the phone and got a call the next morning at 0800, saying my piece was in.  Now THAT is service.  I've bought 3 different pieces from them and always had a good experience... and the prices are the lowest I've found in the city. ($582 walk out for XD)